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Truthseeker10:
Oga show us the diagram of trinity of light and heat before being sent to earth. I am not asking you to teach me science.

You've made many dumb statements durring this discussion but this one takes the cake.
Are you saying sun did not have light and heat before there was earth?

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣🤣 at the bolded.

So let us see a diagram of light and heat being part of the sun before coming to earth.

Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!
There are constant nuclear reactions at core of the sun resulting in light and heat!

Truthseeker10:
So does your diagram account for John 1:1 before Jesus came to earth?

My diagram is flawed but it actually accounts for that because light and heat are always part of the sun

Truthseeker10:
Ah....ok oo🤣🤣🤣 does the Trinity diagram that I gave you have flaw and implications? If yes explain.

Stop asking dumb questions just to ask questions.
I already told you it doesn't account for the Father sending the son and HG while remaining in his place

MaxInDHouse:
And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a place where every unclean spirit and every unclean and hated bird lurks!" Revelations 18:2

Since the third century when TRINITY was established she has grown so big and forced many to contribute to her shamelessness but today she has fallen, just see how different members of Trinity are arguing since without coming to an accurate knowledge of their once cherished concept TRINITY! 2Timothy 3:7


Jehovah's Witnesses, thank you people o!

OK, WHAT do JW say Christ is?

Truthseeker10:
So what is the implication of that flaw in explaining the Trinity?

There's no implications. The Trinity exists otside our reality, outside time and space. It is not fully explainable in this our reality

Truthseeker10:
Ah.....you don't subscribe to Trinity?🤣🤣🤣

Oga tell us the flaw In your diagram. List it out before you start explaining how Christ is God.

More DUMB questions, eh?😆
Well, for one thing heat and light don't have the nuclear reactions at core of the sun!

Truthseeker10:
Ah🤣🤣🤣.... so you cannot draw out a flawless analysis of your Trinity concept but you want us to accept it. The same you is telling us not to accept the another drawing of another Trinity concept because the drawing is flawed. Are you not an hypocrite?🤣🤣🤣

MY Trinity concept?? Why are you so obsessed with that word and did I ever tell you I subscribe to it? I only told you I believe Christ is God because he really can't be anything else and because the father has allowed his being worshipped with him all these centuries and actually raised him from literally dead to allow it!

Truthseeker10:
Does the above statement in bold mean that your diagram below is also flawed? If yes, get me a diagram that is without flaw to explain your flawless trinity doctrine.

OF COURSE my diagram is flawed! Any diagram you can IMAGINE coming up with necessarily has to be flawed. That's the point! How can you draw something that is outside this dimension?? It is like asking someone in a two-dimensional world (with no concept of up or down) to draw a 3-dimensional object!

Truthseeker10:
Ah🤣🤣🤣....a whole TRINITY diagram is flawed? Na wa oo🤣🤣🤣 steep and Nachmonides come and see something oo from your fellow trinity member.

So water Analogy is flawed.
Sun analogy is flawed.
Trinity diagram is flawed.

Kindly provide a diagram of GOD, The FATHER, THE SON AND HOLY SPIRIT that is not flawed for the sake of sustaining your sanity of the Trinity doctrine.

I have to assume you are NOT really dumb but only acting dumb.
I already told you there is nothing in our reality that can analogize God and his manifestations.

I'm sure you instinctively know that God is unknowable to us. He is a capital MYSTERY that we only vaguely sense through his effects. God is pure spirit, totally immaterial, and if we only knew how laughable are our feeble attempts to represent Him in illustration!

This diagram below is as good as any we can come up with

Truthseeker10:
You are confused with the whole God, Father, Son and holy spirit concept.

Below in the screenshot is the diagram of the Trinity doctrine.

What is the meaning of the word 'GOD' in the diagram below, and how many persons make up that one word 'GOD'?

The diagram is flawed because the father sends the son and spirit while remaining in its place. This conveys non of that. The sun analogy does

Truthseeker10:
You are confused. Go back to the diagram of the Trinity that I sent you earlier. The diagram clearly shows the meaning of the word 'GOD'. the word GOD cannot exist without the three personhood. Anytime you call the word GOD, you are actually calling three persons(The Father, the son, the holy spirit) in the Trinity. You cannot call the father 'GOD' in Isolation of the son and the holy spirit because they are partakers of that word 'GOD'.

Your SUN(GOD) analogy is flawed because you are trying to play smart. If the identity of THE Father is (sun) then the identity of the The Son must be (SUN and not ray) and the identity of The Holy Spirit must be (SUN and not heat) they are all SUN itself except you have a different identity name for THE FATHER.

I don't want to call you ignoramus. How many times have you been told the Father/God terms are used INTERCHANGEABLY??! You've already been told to memorize that word!

Am I not the one who showed you that all the analogies are flawed?? But not in the dumb way you say. The sun analogy is actually better than the water analogy that you said was perfect!
The sun remains in its place and we can't really see the sun whereas the light travels to us and transfers the heat of the sun to us. We could say that the unseeable Father sends His Holy Spirit to us through the Son to give us the gifts of His Holy Spirit. No such analogy with water/ice/steam

Truthseeker10:
So Jesus as a seperate person from the Father in heaven was not a spirit before he came to earth?
Are you saying that there was nothing like ,The Father, The son, The Holy Spirit before Jesus earthly mission?
So who exactly came as the human Jesus? Was it The Father that was not seen directly or it was The Son that was seen directly according to your explanation?


You are a fraud fron the statement you wrote above about the Sun analogy. The water analogy was a perfect analogy of how three persons have seperate identities(liquid, steam, block) with one essence (water).

"The Father(Sun) is only the sun(GOD) itself".....( in other words, The Son(Ray) and The Holy Spirit(heat) are not the sun(GOD) itself). Can you see how dumb your sun analogy is?

You are really begining to make me question having this discussion with you.
Jesus was man AND God! The eternal Spirit of God occupied a human body!!

The water analogy is not perfect at all because the three (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) exist simultaneously and distinctly, unlike water which cannot be ice, liquid, and steam all at once!

The Father is that thing you point to when asked to point to the sun (doesn't include sunrays, etc). God ("the sun"} includes all of them and all of them are the sun

MaxInDHouse:
Politics cause WAR so when a politician found out that with all he has the people refused to accept him as ruler they create confusion among the people which leads to fear and such fears leads to RUMORS OF WAR.

For instance when Jonathan discovered that his opponents are ready to bring war to Nigeria if he didn't leave the office he said:

"I am not desperate to rule and my stay in the office of Mr President doesn't worth the lives of Nigerians"

Why did he make this statement?

Because he heard RUMORS OF IMPENDING WAR if he insisted to remain in the office of Mr President.

The statement is "wars and rumors of wars" meaning "wars going on and rumors of wars going on"
Clearly not what you described. Thanks for your effort anyway, I'm just tired of that anachronistic phrase

MaxInDHouse:
A composite sign is what Jesus gave and surely you can't say earthquakes or food shortages or wars and rumors of war or any of the signs should not have happened before to convince a right thinking person rather what we need is a time all these things will occur simultaneously to prove that the time Jesus talked about is here!

Can you please explain "rumors of wars" in today's context. It seems to me anachronistic - those days it was hard and took time to verify information. Not so today. Either there is a war or there is not.
So out with the annoying "rumors of wars" stuff

JesusDeliveres:
Hello ma

Pls pls.... my gas just finished

Pls I need to fill the gas even tho it's 2kg or 1kg
Pps I need good spirited naira landers and Nigerians to come to my rescue

Plus today is also my birthday
Pps I need to fill my gas Pls someone should make me happy.... At least to eat the beans that's half way done... So I can cook it completely and eat it with my garri.... At least I thank God I'm. Alive

My bank details are below in my signature
God bless the giver in Jesus name

Sorry o. I hope it went well

swagguElite:
Let everybody share their degree of wrongful termination. Whatever is said here does not only happen in banks, it is general corporate concept. You cannot be prepared for anythin' until it happens. It might be when you decide to settle down, complete your house finally, your steady income comes with a sack letter. Or when you just finish payin' your house rent the termination comes.

Most people here talkin' about side business haven't really sat with reality. You can only run two businesses successfully if you're have the time to oversee the second one. Sales girl never steal your goods finish before, everyone is lookin' for quick money and whom to devour.

To get an honest person to run your business while you do other work is an herculean task on its own.

@bolded, they forget you must also live your life too.
You leave for work early, come back late, where's the time for side hustle??

BondRiv:
I hope you are not indirectly trying to promote this rubbish? Never heard of such nonsense.

Exactly. And he posted it in many sections, clearly indicative of effort to promote it.
95% sure our man is a closeted homosexual, or may be not even closeted

Truthseeker10:
Does John 1:18 say that no one has seen God(sun) directly or that no one has seen God(sun)?

Are the young man and the dove not God(sun) directly?

Below in the screenshot is a diagram of the Trinity.
In the water analogy, we agreed that the GOD in the middle of the diagram represents (water)
The Father represents (liquid)
The Son represents (steam)
The Holy Spirit represents (block).
The three combine together to have one essence which is GOD(water) in the middle of the diagram. The Father(liquid), The Son(steam) and The Holy Spirit(block) do not bear the essence name which is GOD(water)

There is a flaw in you Sun analogy.
You said the GOD in the middle of the diagram represents (Sun).
The Father represents (Sun).
The Son represents (ray).
The Holy Spirit represents (heat).
The three combine together to have one essence which is GOD(Sun) in the middle of the diagram.

The flaw in your Sun analogy is that the person of the Father(SUN) has the same identity name with the essence GOD(Sun) in the middle of the diagram but the person of The Son and person of Holy Spirit do not have the same identity name as the essence GOD(Sun) in the middle of the diagram.

Are you implying that it is only the father that shares the identity name with the essence which is GOD(SUN)? If no, why do you not place 'Sun' as both the identity name of the person of The Son and Holy Spirit?

Are you a small child that everything has to be spelt out for you or are you just being ridiculous?? Same John states in Chapter 14, "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father." Unless you're saying John was drunk and knowingly contradicting himself.

Look, you can’t ordinarily see spirit because it's a different dimension. It has to manifest into something you can see. You already instinctively know this. Cut the dumb questions.

Sun: the analogy is of course approximate as nothing in our existence can exactly analogize it.
But even then you'er wrong. The Father doesn't have the same identity as "the Sun" because "the sun" encompasses EVERYTHING about the sun (including rays, heat, etc), while the Father is only the sun itself. In other words ray that hits the earth is the sun but not the father, just as Christ is God but not the Father

WriterNig:
[b]What a show of shame. Clown nation.

They should swallow their pride and ask Russia for help.

This below is worth re-posting as conclusion to this STUPID thread.
Please stop comparing the two countries as there's no basis for comparison!

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WrriterNg:
Everything you just mentioned exists in every country. They can all be replaced.

In Eastern Europe, Russian movies and music are more popular.

In Francophone countries, French music and movies are more popular.

You only think Hollywood is most popular because you speak English and there are over 2 billion English speakers.

In Latin America, Spanish music and movies reign supreme.

Rap is worldwide and in all Languages, so is Jazz, and Apple, Microsoft, Google, etc.
Please STOP comparing the two countries!

But love of a woman and wanting to impress her is what inspires men to lofty achievements... and here you are, advising them to go with who they don't have to impress!

WrriterNg:
And in just a blink of an eye, all that valuation can vanish into thin air.

It ain't real.

You think Facebook or Twitter can vanish in a blink? Even NL won't vanish.
Question is, where are Russian counterparts of these.. or Hollywood.. or music etc.
Please don't compare the two countries!

WrriterNg:
Of course they'll be from the country that owns the US dollars.

You wan get dollars pass people wey create dollars?

Wait till countries start using their own currency first.

Their assets have nothing to do with creation of dollars, genius! Has to do with valuation of their companies!

WrriterNg:
Una life no pass VISA.

Dem swear for una?

To answer your question.. I already chose Russia.

OK, forget visa. Below are the richest people in the world. Notice what country they are ALL from

Nachmonides:
You're trying to explain the body of a truth to someone who has refused the very foundation of that truth.

It's dumb questions that one should expect as a result.

The person simply doesn't agree with the foundation of your explanation. That's why I asked for their understanding of John 1:1-14

Oh that one won't work. They have changed it. They first changed it to "..and the Word was a god"
Now it is "... and the Word was from God."

John 1:1-14 NIV - 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning.

DMerciful:
Sex is mostly physical for men. Convince yourself all you want. Ugly person is ugly because of their physical appearance. If the face is ugly but the boobs and ass is solid, the pleasure is guaranteed

Thus it can be easily replaced with simulation or a robot with ABSOLUTELY no loss in pleasure. That's why sex in itseif is NOT worth anything near the hype!

Truthseeker10:
Madam show me where I said that Jesus is the father(sun) in my statement in bold below.

I can't see God(sun) but you said that Jesus(sunlight) is one and the same as God(Sun) and people saw him. Why are you so confused like this na?

Ah🤣🤣🤣 how can sunlight(Son), heat(holy spirit), sun itself(father) be Sun(God) and combine to be the same one Sun(God) and still be seperate Sun(God) oo? Explain.

This has gone beyond stupidity.
Let's summarize:
You can't see God directly.. BUT
at some time in the past we saw a manifestation of God in a young man and a dove - which was indirectly seeing the Father.

Sun: same way there is only ONE God made up of separate persons

Truthseeker10:
I can't see God(sun) but you said that Jesus(sunlight) is one and the same as God(Sun) and people saw him. Why are you so confused like this na?


Ah🤣🤣🤣 how can sunlight(Son), heat(holy spirit), sun itself(father) combine to be the same one Sun(God) and still be seperate Sun(God) oo? Explain.

Now you're being stupid. How many times have you been told that Jesus is God but NOT the Father? Seeing the Father in him is NOT same as seeing the Father directly after death.

They do combine to make up what we call the sun, don't they? Yet they're all separate