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forgiveness:
The best has not always been preferred in Nigeria national team.

Can you explain why Martins who was capped in 2004 has only 40 caps while Mikel and Ahmed who were capped in 2006 and 2010 has 82 and 63 caps.

Martins who was capped in 2004 has 40 capps and he is the 5th highest goal scorer with 18 goals for the national team. He is just behind Yakubu and Ike Uche who are the third and fourth with 21and 19 goals and had been capped more than him with 58 and 46 caps.

As you can see Martins statistics is better than the aforementioned players.

injury has been a major problem too for Martins.

Obi1kenobi:
This is exactly why I called you delusional.
South Africa ranks pretty highly in slavery and human trafficking. South Africa is ranked 27th on the Global Slavery Index, just few positions behind Nigeria in 23rd.
https://www.globalslaveryindex.org/country/south-africa/
The incidence rates of forced labour and slavery in both countries is almost identical with 0.45% in South Africa (over 248,000 people in slavery) and 0.48% in Nigeria (over 875,000). Child trafficking and sex slavery is particularly rife and the content in the booming industry in SA is overwhelmingly local.
Also, an estimated 1 in 4 South African kids live with no parents. Most of these are not orphans. Their parents are just lowlife dregs and scum and child labour, though dropping from a recent high of almost 800,000 in 2010 is still rife (thank your productive white minority saviors for their taxes which give many of these children of scum some measure of a social safety net that means many don't have to live a hard life on the streets).
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.za/2017/03/16/there-are-577-000-child-labourers-in-south-africa-and-202-000-w_a_21898444/

Despite the repeated delusional twaddle about organ trafficking, what a couple of people in a country of nearly 200 million do is hardly representative. Nigeria doesn't even have anything close to a hundred organ transplants a year and very few are gotten from a black market. I would also imagine transporting organs across borders must be a logistical nightmare. So, no, there are no "badoo" cults coming to harvest our organs. According to this report, one in five people in South Africa's rural areas has had first-hand experience of a human body part being trafficked after a "muti killing".
https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/muti-killings-is-a-way-of-life-in-rural-areas-470603
It's estimated as high as 150 to 300 muti murders take place in SA yearly and I'd be here all day digging out news clips of such. I guess it's the Nigerians doing that.

Except one comes from Monte Carlo or Liechtenstein, anybody can dig up a mountain of dirt on any country in few minutes of research. You've spent an astonishing 24 days and 13 hours on this forum despite only joining less than 8 months ago (I've spent a lot of time here in 8 years of membership and I've still spent only about double your time online). So you basically visit the crime section here obsessively, absorb everything you've seen from hours of trawling it and come here making pretty moronic generalizations. For South Africa, a country with a prison incarceration rate of 292 per 100,000 (compared to Nigeria's 35 per 100,000 - and yes, I know the lesser efficiency of our justice system is contributory, but that's not the point), if I trawled the local news for long enough, it would be pretty easy to troll about all the vile crime committed by citizens. But I haven't signed up on any similar SA forum to do that and it frankly has no appeal.

The irony is I have an older sister, in Canada now, who previously moved with her husband to Pretoria in 2011 and but they left earlier this year after he got a job in Vancouver. She's 30-years-old and in her pretty longish life on earth, most of which were spent in Lagos, the first time she was robbed by thugs and the first time her car was burgled was on moving to SA.

And yes, we do have a lot of problems with terrorism in our North East, which puts us high on the global terror list. I guess it's one of the unfortunate results of a dysfunctional political system looking to rule almost 200 million people from over 200 ethnic groups with a Muslim North and a Christian South. Be thankful you don't have to grapple with such complexities, but it's certainly not some special achievement. Whiteys work and pay taxes, blackies feed on welfare. That's a pretty decent deal.

You don't just get it do you? Nigeria is the cause of all the SAn problems you narrated above, Nigeria is the major cause of everything wrong with Kenya and South Africa, and incase you've not heard, Slavery is also a culture in this Evil Nigeria, lol.
Nothing person nor go read for Nairaland.

Lionessza:
Talking about slave trade in Nigeria is treason , slavery is culture ;Dhence the government and the citezens did and said absolutely nothing until the international community exposed them and they had to save face.

Why not go to the romance section where you would easily find a Nigerian boyfriend? You trolling Nigerians here would only attract Kenyan guys( much to your disappointment ) and you would always find yourself on heat yapping nonsense about so called slavery as culture in Nigeria(which you know is false) whilst justifying any sour report on South Africa.
This is just an advice because as you can see, there are no more fvcks to give here. Only the Kenyans give a fvck.

Kog45:
I don't think beating Argentina should be a yardstick to belittle some players super relevant in the team and i know Rohr has a coach will not joke with Mikel,Vic Moses,Ndidi,Onazi,Balogun,Ekong,of recent Iwobi in his line up.

I remember Nigeria beat Brazil at Atlanta in the absence of Sunday Olishe but in the final against Argentina he walked straight into the first eleven meaning is indispensable.Hope you remember how Stephen Keshi was shuttling Belgium and Morocco during Maroc 88,despite winning the semi final in the absence of Keshi,Stephen Keshi came in straight from Belgium to play the final as a starter.

Nigeria beating Argentina does not make Vic Moses and Ogenyi Onazi dispensable,only injury will ruled these guys out.

Victor Moses yes, but l feel Ogu can play the Onazi role appropriately as well.

Danycrusoe:
4 the 1st time we seem to v an NFF president who knows what he z doing, who has a vision and all that, he has rebranded The super eagles alongside the LMC chairman Sheu dikko the npfl x improving as well albeit slowly.

I just saw a thread on fp about the Super falcons playing France in a friendly next year. this x a step in the right direction we need more of it, the change n growth in the Eagles affairs should stream down to other teams both male n female.

I can't wait for our female teams to replicate what we are seeing in the senior male team now. I hope the new super falcons coach is even way better than Rohr in handling the girls

Amaju did well for sports in Delta states then, it was actually surprising to me that he started slowly in the glass house( not getting many things right at first).

TayserMahiri:
Its good you joined the international community in not caring about naija. No one cares ! But we may be forced to care momentarily to stop you folks from tarnishing the name of humans in the eyes of the universe with your open slave auctions. Dammit, Just do it chini ya maji where our galactic neighbors wont see !

l said l don't give a fvck about international media. Also learn to remove the speck in your own eye first before talking about others.
Obaderemi just showed news and articles that makes it clear the Kenyans also practice these slave auctions, l don't give a fvck about Kenya and their many problems, so why are you more worried about Naija, are you a Nigerian immigrant in Kenya?

forgiveness:
If we are dreaming of winning the WC next year or this year, the opponents we face should not matter. We play our game one at a time regardless of who we face.

Therefore, we need the right players to fulfill our task and to pick the best and right players fit for the task, sentiments must be eliminated to the bearest minimum.

This is how I will pick my 23 players.

Gk

Vincent Enyeama
Dele Aiyenugba
Dele Ajiboye



DF

Troost Ekong
Leon Balogun
Chidozie Awaziem
Brian Idowu
Tyrone Ebuehi
Elderson Echiejile
Shehu Abdullahi/ Ola Aina


MF

Mikel Obi
Ogenyi Onazi
Joel Obi
Wilfred Ndidi
Sone Aluko
Victor Moses
Alex Iwobi
Simon Moses
Ahmed Musa
Raheem Lawal/ Abdul Ajagun/ Onomah


ST

Kelechi Iheanacho
Odion Ighalo
Obafemi Martins


With calibers of players I can switch from 4-2-3-1 to 3-5-1 or 4-4-2 to 4-3-3

My first choice players for 3-5-1

.................................Enyeama (hopefully)

.............. Balogun.......Ekong......... Brian

.......Vicmo......... Ndid......... Onazi..........Joel Obi

...................Iwobi.................Mikel

...........................Martins


In 4-2-3-1 formation


.......................................Enyeama

...Ebuehi......... Troost.......... Leon.........Echiejile

......................Onazi.........Joel.......


Vicmo...................Mikel................. Simon Moses

...........................Ighalo

You mean you are not impressed with Onyekuru? l think the lad can be an effective substitute for Moses Simon in a 4-3-3 formation.

TayserMahiri:
I'm saying international media. Of cos your media reports the terrible stories to you but the international media is not interested in your sheety news.

l just don't get it, why should l give a fvck about that?

TayserMahiri:
You do realize its very hard to exaggerate stories from Nigeria. Do you have some evidence that those might be Nigeriens and not your people? Like deportees mistakenly taken to Nigeria instead of Niger? One thing you'll come to learn is how under reported bad news from Nigeria is. You guys average something like a terror attack every week or so but it never makes it to mainstream international media. And surprisingly a very 'respectable' number die each time, like its always a dozen or several dozens in each attack. My point is, those slaves are majority from Naija, driven by the very bad things going on in your country from terror, cults, area boys etc.

And how many terrible stories from Kenya do you think your media reports? l think Nigeria reports her stories more to the world than any other African country, l see little from the Kenyan media or blogs but here you are feeding on Nairaland and perhaps other Nigerian websites to childishly fish out stories about Nigeria so you could rub it on the faces of Nairalanders here.
One of the Kenyan kids here spoke about corruption in Nigeria ignoring the fact that kenya has it worse.

zuchyblink:
In a 3-5-2 formation which wing do think victor moses should play for us?

Victor Moses is perhaps one of the best wing backs in the world( usually due to his speed). l believe he can do his thing from any of those flanks.
Moses must work on his crosses though, they seem way too obvious all the time.

obaaderemi:
One thing that HaS amused me about you Kenyans since last year is how you like to fight dirty against Nigeria. It reeks of inferiority complex to say the least. You've been fighting this battle since last year and you don't seem to be making any headway. It's amazing how you've made this your life project on nairaland and in real life. It's pathetic. Nigeria has problems and Nigerians recognise this but your Kenya is just as bad too. If you are objective you will see that black Africa is totally fucjked. Organ trade is a major thing in Kenya too. But you are burying your head in the sand about this.What do you have to say to the quote below?....... And investigations by the media
estimate that around 20,000 Kenyans
are illegally exported to slavery in
North America and the Middle East
every year. This amounts to one in
every 40 people trafficked worldwide.
Some are killed to get their hearts or
liver, but it is also suspected that
some of these organs are obtained
within Kenya, where they are
preserved before being flown to
destinations in the West. http://www.nation.co.ke/lifestyle/dn2/957860-1014456-vqwnol/index.html

More like ignoring the speck in your eye but thinking of the one in your neighbour's eye.

enomakos:
etebo will make the final 23 whoelse will replace him?

Replace him in what role exactly? lwobi is even more creative in that AM role and the wings are full already.

gallivant:
Important to Libyans maybe, the rest of us want a thousand miles away from Nigeria-ns.

Who cares? why not stay a thousand miles away from Nairaland, you can start from there.

Humility017:
who said that...?
if that saying was true...the likes of pirlo,maldini,figo etc...

would have still been playing...
those are just words many use to justify their points...or give reason to their views...

it often does not hold water.

Well l can agree with you on that, the theory certainly doesn't hold water in the world of football. But if Martins could do all these just few years ago then he could possibly rediscover such form, who knows?

Humility017:
my brother...to be honest that's one of the many questions I believe keshi need to answer....

I don't know though if he was injured...
@MLS Martins was blazing hot...
I was among his fan...many a time I will search YouTube just to watch his play...

keshi world cup list made me sick....

Martins may still have that quality tho. There's no big deal, he would be invited(l believe) and then given the chance to prove himself. There's a saying that form is temporary but class is permanent, so we may never know when it comes to Martins.

Humility017:
to be honest...I am more concerned of us taking Henry than him...because etebo only role to fit in will be the flanks...being that he is not creative enough to be our AM....

True that! He is not creative enough.

safarigirl:
I asked some weeks ago of how realistic Etebo's chances were to get to Russia and some were of the opinion that he still had a great chance.

I ask that question again, because Etebo is looking very much dispensable right now

l think Ogu may even have a better chance as a substitute for Onazi, Etebo would then have to compete with Joel obi(as a substitute for Mickel) if he gets invited. Not looking good for Etebo at all.

Joebie:
Here is a mention, not necessarily a recommendation.
A left back, Eke Uzoma (I don't want to hear he is too old)
He is a natural left footer.
He is on the pitch now at the moment for Hungarian side, Balmazujvaros Sport, as they lead Obinna Nwobodo's Upjest,
2-0 away.

Dude is short though.

Nice one, but if we can search in Hungary, l believe we would also do well to search for players in the Npfl.

tbaba1234:
KC is back in the team..

l believe he was sick then. There was no cause for alarm at all.

Moses looking sharp

Moses with an assist now, l think he's fully back.

COOLDK:
Argentina
Iceland
Croatia
Nigeria


And the thing go SKRrrrrrrrrahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Man's not hot

Argentina again

Shaytun:
Chai

lt's possible some of these Kenyans are Nigerians who migrated to Kenya many years ago and then learnt Swahili.

Mzansian:
It's you talking about things you know nothing about. Your government is shytty , citizens are slow and only reaction when the rest of the world has already reacted that's the point. You are your own worst enemies, selling each other in Nigeria and in foreign lands . Slavery = Nigeria . I bet there are thousands of your willing slaves trekking to lybia as we speak .

Bye.

Why the rant? Refute his post and stop yapping like a woman on fire or a parrot on heat. You have made it clear you hate Nigeria and Nigerians, so why spend all your time here discussing Nigeria?

Mujtahida:
Why can't we produce players like Ronaldo or Messi or Neymar?

We have always produced them, but their development to become truly established over time leaves much to be desired. Mickel was in the class of Messi in 2005, but Messi's development in Barca was different from the turn of events with Mickel in Chelsea. Mickel was converted to a Makelele cos Mourinho believed there were more established midfielders in Chelsea at the time.

nelszx:
We've never been defeated by Asians
Against South Korea it ended 2-2
Against Iran (The Persians) it ended goalless
Only place we've defeated them was at the Olympics male soccer games 4-3 it ended against Japan
If memory serves me right those are the two we've faced from the Asian continent.

We beat them in friendlies even, we beat Japan in preparation for the 2002 world cup.

SupremeBeast:
lol you don't say! a country that has played quarter finals at a world cup stage is feeling inferior to one that has never gotten there after 5
attempts? only a Nigerian can say this.

Ok, you got to the quarter finals just from your first two attempts, we topped our group of deaths twice in our first two attempts but never got to the quarter finals.
You were unlucky not to get past Uruguay in 2010, while Nigeria was also unlucky not to get past a highly rated Italian team(and eventual finalists) in 1994 after white washing another highly rated Bulgarian team(then).
ln the end, neither side have won the world cup yet, but both have shown promise with some spectacular performances, so what is the fuss about?
On this thread, lvorycoast, Mali, Cameroon, South Africa etc, have been mentioned, so tell me what is so special about mentioning Ghana?

SupremeBeast:
I remember telling you guys to keep Ghana outta your business but it seems you can't do it.

anyways feel free to answer my questions. has Nigeria ever beaten Argentina or England or France at the World Cup stage before?

Why the inferiority complex? ls Ghana the only country in the world and why can't they be mentioned like other countries? l can also ask... Has Ghana ever beaten Spain at the world cup before or have they ever topped their group twice? Have you also beaten the aforementioned countries in your post at the world cup finals?
Abeg carry your busybody comot here.

Eligreat247:
Yes that's true. in a friendly match in 2011 (if my memory serves me right). They rather fielded their B team and got humiliated 4-1. They later arranged another friendly and field their major team that walloped us silly (can't remember the score line)

Am sure he actually meant to say the first coach to beat Argies main Team...

3-1

Mickael2:
he had a fainting spell, like he passed out two or three times continously and he was left in the dressing room. On the pitch your mind will still go to that player who was left in the dressing room not knowing if the stuff got real

You assume that was the case, but if you watch that game carefully, the Argentine team started the second half the way they started the first, they also continued with the pressing and had the better chances. The major difference on the night was Rohr's switch of our wing back personnels. This made all the difference and not the so called psychological trauma from the Aguero comatose.

Icon4s:
I still feel we needed that Seychelles game so we cap all the capable foreign borns.

Ebuehi is still available for Holland.

Toyin lbitoye has debunked the rumour that he's still eligible for Holland, saying as long as the player have been listed for an official tie, then it's all over.