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forgiveness:
Oga! I hope u do agree u were wrong before I continue to counter this ownow!?

However, we are talking about 2004/2005 season and not 2003/2004 season. Thank you.

Did Cameroun win the 2004 Nations cup?
I don't know oooo.



Abi na 2002 carry over come 2004.

lol, carry over from 2002.
They just wouldn't admit that these awards tilt towards the threshold of sentiments than anything else.

Jarus:
Sorry, Salah was the highest scorer in Africa for the World Cup qualifiers.

He also scored goals that stopped Nigeria from qualifying for AFCON 2017.

Football doesnt revolve around Nigeria or Nigerian players. Monitor other players too.

And Abumeyang why is he ahead of Moses too?

goldfish80:
Yaya Toure had a great season for Man city. His 10 goals from Midfield pushed Man city from a mid table team to the top 3. He crowned it all with an Fa cup whichhe basically handed over to city after 35yrs trophyless. . .

I dont know what youre trying to prove.

Its academic, if you want to be recognised in Africa, dont play for the likes of Wigan, Portsmouth or Westbrom. . . . Nobody will take you serious.

It is that simple

And why should all of these be enough to give you the APOTHY? lt's called APOTHY for fvck sake, l have same issues with Adebayo winning it in 2010 just for being a top scorer for Arsenal.

atilexy:
It's called "2017 Africa's best player" not "2016/2017 Africa's best player". Judging from individual performances last season, Moses could easily have been included (or would have won it even). Unfortunately, from August until now, these 3 players have been better than Moses & they also qualified their nations 2 the world cup too!

Abumeyang too??

atilexy:
Both Senegal & Egypt are ahead of Nigeria in FIFA ranking! I'd have loved Moses to be there but individually, they've all done better than him!

What of Abumeyang?

Whobedatte:
Sentiments everywhere. Look at his comparison ? He won the league with Chelsea was he better than these three?

What did Abumeyang do for both club and country last season(especially for country)? CAF must set the criteria straight, else the award is nothing less of a popularity contest.

Kog45:
Thanks but i will not accept that am being biased.

Nigerian players cannot set the standard or criteria on how CAF should does her things regard APOTY,they should try to measure up to the criteria and only way is to continue working hard to merit the award.

I remember of recent Mikel and Enyeama almost nick it so i don't see CAF being sentimental,this is a body that considered Ekong for the same award

l do not believe there's a bias towards Nigeria but that CAF is yet to set the criteria straight, it is more or less a popularity contest than anything else, just like l believe Adebayo shouldn't have won it in 2010 nor Toure in 2013.

safarigirl:
another unnecessarily emotional Nigerian whipping up sentiments

Please, can some of the lead defense counsels compile their points as to the reason for Moses' exclusion and send them to Pinnick before he sends in a proposal?

Lol, l have said it before that Moses deserves to be third ahead of Abumeyang this time, because he had more positive games for club and country(just like Sallah and Mane) but someone here argued Abumeyang should be there because he was top scorer in the German league.
l don't think that is good enough, but l know the sentiments involved in these selections. Abumeyang is already believed to be top thirty in the World, and so CAF award must have him there, neglecting the fact that this is an African award.
l also remember there was a time an Egyptian should have won it in 2010, due to his outstanding performance for both Egypt and Al Ahly(the best African club) then but it was given to Adebayo, solely because he was top scorer for Arsenal(not that Arsenal could even win the epl) then but still we call it an African award and anyone who disagrees is simply sentimental (what an irony).

tbaba1234:
Iwobi is among the big boys.. He doesn't play these kinds of games.. Wenger rates him highly.

And this is very good for his development. Arsenal is one of the best top teams for young chaps to grow and build confidence Probabably because they play positive football and depend more on team work(possession of the ball) than defensive tactics.

tbaba1234:
Kante is a rarity.. Defensive minded players have to be ultra good to be noticed.

Exactly, defensive minded players would have to work twice as hard to be noticed.

Kog45:
OK i rest my case no need to go further.

But this is true, sentiments aside. We know the 3-5-3 formation is not new, but it's now much more popular than ever before all thanks to Conte's Chelsea, and Moses was key as that overlapping wingback in such a system.
l have also heard English analysts call him the best RWB in the world. This may be true ONLY/ ESPECIALLY when referring to that 3-5-3 formation.

Questence:
Thank you Jarus.

The funny things we read online

Some even said they were bias to Moses because he is not a striker and he does not score goals







cc safarigirl icons79

Moses was fantastic in 2016/2017 season and was key to chelsea's new daring formation that saw them win the league.
Moses was also key to Nigeria's qualification for the world cup, so l would say he deserves to be in the top three ahead of Abumeyang at least, but then looking at Asissat Oshoala in the women's category for instance and then comparing her to the South African Kgatlana, l now understand the sentiments involved in these awards, Abumeyang was already rated amongst the thirty best players in the World, thus there was no way Moses could be ahead of him in the CAF award,
Similarly Oshoala has been rated no 61 in the world amongst the top 100 women footballers, and so it would hardly be surprising if she goes on to win the CAF award even though she hasn't played a game for Nigeria this year and Kgatlana have been outstanding for South Africa.
ln summary, l would place Moses ahead of Abumeyang for the 2016/2017 award, especially for his contributions to Nigeria, but just as it is with Oshoala/Kgatlana, Abumeyang is a more established star with higher ratings worldwide already.

poseidonsaiz:
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And what if Enyeama return haunts us much later during the world cup? We just gotta be hopeful and optimistic about who ever mans the goal post in Russia.

She's just being sarcastic, She has argued your points not long ago.

safarigirl:
haba. You haven't heard of their France friendly coming up in March or so next year?

l think playing Frances is a bad idea, there are so many European teams above us in the fifa ranking we know we can easily beat to improve our ranking ahead of the World cup draws. Right now we should avoid the top ten teams in the world in order to build the confidence of the falcons seeing that they have been inactive for a year.

solonnachi:
Flamingos v Ethiopia 0-0 (30 mins)
How did our female team degrade to this level?

The problem is that they left that coach even after his failure at the last U17 world cup.

arinzeejikonye:
That is exactly my point bro,

I wonder the veracity of parameters used in measuring these stats,
Reality seems parallel to it

You need to spend a week and crisscross kano state bro

How is life in Kano? l would love to learn about the projects, developments and social life in Kano. You know some of us on this side of the Naija can only go on what the media feeds us with.

mrvitalis:
How old are you ?
Your mates are making millions farming and producing things to export and you are here complaining

What gave you or the mans children money under Jonathan that stopped giving money now

Honestly I know a lot of new millionaires last year and this year (myself included)

Stay Dre and be waiting for government to pay you

l wonder why he only sees the illegal or yahoo boys as the outstanding in society?

PortHarcourt

arinzeejikonye:
The argument of most industrialized state will be another topic for another day,

Nigerians need for research and traveling before rushing to hasty conclusions,
Gezawa local government alone in kano, is clustered with industrial estates from jogana to yankaba, To gudunwawa, To minjibir, To gezawa hadeja road,

Not to talk of other local government like kombotso, kura, challawa

Below Lee group

l tell you, even Nigerians themselves don't know so much about Nigeria, many only speak about Nigeria as a whole based on what they see in their villages. l have come across a weird comment by a Nigerian on Nairaland arguing we have no single standard public school in Naija, and he made his argument passionately.
l agree Naija is not developed, but some comments by Nigerians here are not factual but rather made on the basis of emotion than facts.

Make sure you lick everything.

Icon4s:
I hammered on those 4 goals he conceded and his attorneys claimed they were not his fault. Because then the focus was on kicking Akpeyi out. Nothing else mattered.

What was said was that Enyeama in 2007 also conceeded 4goals against Ghana.
I also pointed out then, that 2 of the 4goals Ezenwa conceeded were penalties. My point in all of these, is that the 4goals he conceeded then doesn't hinder his growth nor does it prove the point that he is totally worse than Enyeama ever was.
But talking about the World Cup now, l think Uzoho has the height advantage, but we must see him in two or more games, l also think Ajiboye should be invited and Ezenwa seems more confident than Akpeyi.
Confidence is also key in goalkeeping.

musicwriter:
You need go meet them and research their claim before disprove it with your verifiable fact. Their claim no matter how impossible it appears remains true until any competent person run a competent test to disprove it.

What is their claim? The report doesn't tell us how the fuelless generator works.

darediamond:
To All YOU Free Energy Doubters and Law Of Conservatoin Of Energy Believers In N I G E R I A and Diaspora: Once Upon A Time A Fellow Nigerian Built A Self-Powered Fuelless Good looking Car From Locally Available Materials.
But he was shut down in South Africa as Clueless Nigeria Government refused to Protect his Invention.
The Olympians People or Illuminati Guys or One World Government Men Of Darkness Paralysed his efforts.
What is the gain in First Law Of Thermodynamics if Not Evil Upon Evil all around the Earth!!
https://lm.?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vanguardngr.com%2F2012%2F09%2Fnigerian-invents-power-generating-machine-makes-africas-first-local-car%2F&h=ATMaPMCC4DhV6ecJHOhbugPgQ3qzbpJU4OpkEfIVnEt6_zi-HffeQEKXHsTik_4-mqOAZwiN7RfcXDLGDyQJQ6crwaabBnzob7tk0lQzzZBQyGZm8Bjp1hcW6s1AENMH4uwPw8Ssbj0&enc=AZPYo64F_UtuKRUe1zPi0L-1i-bGcUjZ8-iCGK3g-EygCRXa56cupnoRi_KljrapZmB3E2F8NhN-2PGWhLkjRFoQcCjnvn6awAUP9TTvxhiNB28bgAUmpB02ILwC6PQdWR8O3H3S8B20yidxeqkFnKej01n0cqMNsFZ6nWYyZJevhRDEiuc37KDZyEl1FPb9LaBWsTn8jUhrOGA8GLiAhhWsQbCEwpUFuEoTffttjXlAUFZ6hiETGK_qKh9zUmzqTtqhvYbUqtFTMhLUTBZNOk3YowhPAcUUv4kNceLlpVrM5ZDKH3Q7xKdAoA0gFxvLDqWWHQX-PBkKb0XS5t1C9KfhVzi71tt4-g01v99mVbAKIg&s=1

Your site can't be reached. The most important thing here is; How did he do it?

musicwriter:
Sometimes I hear whats coming out of the mouths of educated Africans and I get tired. You all quoting all the scientific laws to justify how this cannot be true; do you really believe we black people don't have the ingenuity to do better than white people? The scientific laws you're quoting is just to the extent white people know. It doesn't mean it cannot ever be disproved!!. This is science and anything could be disproved/discovered. Before you even discard their claim as rubbish, you ought to have investigated their claim whether its true or false.

WHITE PEOPLE ARE HUMAN BEING LIKE YOU, THEY DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING!.

White people are not more intelligent than us. The only thing holding black people back in Africa is for the fact we even operate on the walls of western education given to us. Once we create our own system of learning "white people no go see our break light". We will be so far ahead of them.

Have faith in yourselves people!!.

Even if we are to discover something new, or a new law yet undiscovered, it still must be explained with verifyable facts.

tbaba1234:
Correct. Poland has confirmed that they have a game with Nigeria on March 23rd.

Nice, this is the kind of team we should be playing, not necessarily Germany, Brazil or Spain.

tonididdy:
wetin u dey se?

There is nothing in Dubai, nothing much happening economically, it's beautiful but just majorly good enough for tourism not for settling down except you have a ready made job. Even in many of these European countries, the citizens are suffering and live below average lives, many migrate enmass to places like Germany to get jobs with better pay per hour.
Not everything is as it seems, still Europe generally is much more comfortable and secure than Naija.

RighteousI:
you believe mingling with the rich alone will protect him? what of Evans, the billionaire kidnapper? many of the rich he will meet in Abuja could be kidnappers, armed robbers, cult members and fetish people, they are also as dangerous as the hungry ones. also, how will he protect himself from the hungry ones when those hungry ones invade his house with pump actions and ak47s? or when those hungry ones spray the car he is driving with bullets?
Zoogeria is a zoo, only a monkey will want to return to it.

Your comment is already an indication of your false mentality, so are you saying people do not make it legally in Abuja? and the rich in Nigeria are only politicians or the likes of Evans? l would not relocate to Nigeria for just one reason....."Insecurity" as compared with European countries generally. Aside that, Europe (though comfortable and more secure) doesn't give you the chance to totally become what you wanna be, but l agree it gives you better opportunities initially. Still you have to use your head and hustle hard, you also need information and connection sometimes same as you need in Naija.

Icon4s:
I wonder when people say these things about Onazi.

The only time I will not play Onazi is if Mikel goes into the CM position, which is not so likely.

The truth is Onazi doesn't always provide cover for that defence, he is full of running though but as a central midfielder, against quality teams it could be dangerous. l also noticed this in the Algerian game in Uyo(especially with the goal we conceeded). lt's just a slight weakness he can work on as a central midfielder. No player does everything perfectly, l like the fact that he reads the game well and he is an intelligent marker too though average in making quick passes in a free flowing game like the one we played against Argentina(2nd half). Both Onazi and Ogu should be in the world cup, can't say much on Etebo for now, but I'll definitely drop Agu.

goldfish80:
He obviously hit a purple patch but couldn't sustain the form. If a forward player scored just 3 goals and zero assists in 25 games, he obviously flopped and deserves to loose his place in the team.
Alluding that he lost his place in the team because he's Nigerian is beyond absurd.
Some defensive midfielders contribute more than 3 goals and zero assists in a season.

But l am confused, you said just 3goals in 25games, while Cityjoe is saying he scored five goals in 3 games at a certain period.

tbaba1234:
I believe, Pellegrini would have taken Kelechi to the next level. Pep destroyed his confidence, he is yet to fully recover.

True that!

mazimee:
Nwakaeme is another below average that should be thrown out through the window. His expliots in Israeli League earned him an invite only to mess up when he was supposed to deliver. The Dude scored goals in his League like Martins

Nwakweme only failed to live up to expectation, you can't really say he messed up completely. l agree though, there may be better options than Nwakweme. I'm not just comfortable judging the ability of players with just a single game even without considering the state of the pitch in Algiers.

Goke7:
oh sorry I don't know that this was a bone of contention, I simply mean a player who came into the Eagles fold earlier, looks like both martins and mikel came in same time if I remember right? so based on that can we say who is actually more senior?

Martins came in 2004, scored twice on his debut against lreland, and followed up with another brace against Rwanda in the WCQ opener.
Mickel came in 2005/2006.