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felixomor:
Just listen to yourself
LMAO
Does "natural" sound like "invented"?
As a matter of fact are they not opposite of each other?

Chai Jesus....

Keep acting as if you do not understand what am saying. According to the studies humans are naturally inclined to believe in a causative agent outside themselves. But the Gods were invented by humans. How did the God Allah and the God Brahma came about? Your refusal to answer the questions say it all.

Rooneyboy:
What about when the reverse is the case?

When she knows that you can never hit her and she takes that as an advantage.

I'm talking from experience and it's not a funny experience.

Slapping and apologizing

Happens a lot much more than you know. When people know that you can't and won't do anything to them even when they err they take you for granted. Just a normal human behavior. It's not an easy balance.

Abuse is part of the human make up. We will always want to dominate others. It's part of the human make up. Institutions that will make sure that domestic abuse is discourage a is what needs to be establish in Nigeria. People are doing it because they can get away with it. If they get punished the abuse will be reduced.

felixomor:
LOL Keeps repeating the same sentence over and over to make it true. The same thing you do with everyone here

I can see clearly you refused to mention the part of your own evidence that mentions "evolution" as the reason for God part of the brain?

And you kept gloating over "invented ny men"?

So you now believe in evolution? or you think evolution was invented?

This is why nobody takes you serious anymore.

According to the studies the guys claim that evolution(a natural process)has configured the brain in such a way that it accomodates the God hypothesis as a part of it. My point was to show you that the same scientist also claim that the God and religious experience is a natural thing and has nothing t do with the divine. It is all a natural thing. All religions have natural and human origins . You can show me any religion that has supernatural origins alone and only then will I start taking you seriously as someone that has an idea of what he is saying.

Who are the people that don't take me seriously? You?

felixomor:
Na wa o. You misfire on this one
I have more people to testify of my accountability here, compared to you who will be on Hinduism threads tomorrow defending Buddha

Testify about which accountability? Allow others to praise you. Never do it yourself. You are empty. Present evidence of me defending Buddha na. Are you telling less as usual?

Just forget this experiment
Richard Dawkins failure to experience God already faults it. Its a fraud

Secondly the experiment states that the GOD part of the brain is a product of evolution
Which even suggests that we are born with it.

Why should I forget the experiment? The experiment actually had a high suc5ratw since 8 in 10 had some religious feeling after wearing the helmet, that Richard Dawkins failed it means nothing. Sure we are born with a tendency to attribute things to causative agents and things outside us, but that doesn't make them true at all. We came from people that believed drought can be ended by appeasing the weather Gods through human and animal sacrifice.

But you claim that theism and was "invented"
Another Massive Cop-out Hian

Sure theism was invented by men. All the theistic religions and the the Gods they worship are man made inventions. Your own religion was invented by men.

Sorry they don't decide,
Maybe you don't know what "decide" means.
And even your fellow atheists here know that this fallacy of yours is a massive one.
That is why none of them will support you.

Because wrong description or varying accounts is never evidence of absence. Argue that one with logic.

In the case of God no body has ever provided any evidence for God. Now I want you to describe A your God in details so that who ever encounters it will know that it is your God and not another thing or phenomena, once you do that we can then go ahead and talk about various claims. Until you describe your God in details you shouldn't expect me to waste ginger back and forth over something that is purely imaginary.

[All these are all descriptions of the same person.
Besides, even If their description is not perfect, it doesn't rule out the existence of the Supreme Being and Creator

So Allah and Brahma are the same God? Odin and Yahweh are also the same God? Seems you have lost it completely. Show that the creator of the universe is a single entity or shut up. Your evidence that the polytheist are completely wrong for example is what? What about the pantheist? Do you have any evidence to show that they are wrong ? Where is it?

Even Mohammed claimed to be worshipping the God of Abraham and Moses.
Sorry this your point is void of reason
Honestly

Mohammed created his own God using the already established religion of the Jews and christians. The God of Abraham and Moses is a human creation. How did you get to know about the God of Abraham and Moses? You knew it through the stories that humans invented and wrote about such a God. Humans invented those stories, wrote them down, created the cutie and theology and continued to pass them down. According to the stories that men invented we are told that Jesus also claimed to be the son of the God of Abraham and Moses. Go to Israel today very few people believe in him. Christianity was also create out of the Jewish religion. But this time they created a God that has a son together with other mythological nonsense.

Sorry, you are the one always insulting God on nairaland, that day wasn't the first.
So I don't think its my challenge that made you do what you did.
It came from your spirit.

Lie, You said I should test your God and tell him to take my life, I did and nothing happened, your imaginary God could do nothing as always, no wonder you are trying to deny your ridiculous test after it failed.

Exactly,
the fact that of all "man made " ideas, this one keeps you 7 days of the week, exposes the Dishonesty inside your spirit.

More emotional thrash talk. I talk about a lot of things daily, this just happens to be one of them. Your God remains a man made idea that is why you are the one defending it. When will you allow yur God to defend it self? That you are doing it always shows that you are your God and the idea only lives inside your head and imaginations. You think if your God exist as advertised it will allow a failure like you that hasn't been able to put forth good arguments to defend it? You are a joke.

Nah bro, You have.
Check your posts. I have even Called you out on it before.
In the presence of other members of this forum[

I've stoped believing anything you say because you tell lies a lot. Just provide the evidence. Until you do, I won't waste my time on that with you.

I wish the evidence didn't fail. But Sorry
Its now even double failure, because your evidence suggests that the God part of the brain is part of evolution
But you claim it is "invented"

All because you are so proud to admit your ignorance you want t equate "evolve" to "invent"
Please go ahead. But know that you will only be fooling your self.

Cop out all the way

All religions are invention of men. Who created Islam and Hinduism for example? Where they created by divine entities or men?

KingEbukasBlog:
Bro , did you miss this ? I said that God orchestrated evolution and since he ingrained in us the propensity to seek His existence then He also ingrained morality in us through the same biological process . Its all God

How did your God orchestrate evolution? Give us specific details. Empty and ridiculousridiculous claims won't bot be tolerated. How did your God do it?

Will try and watch it. Thanks for sharing.

lepasharon:
Lol even on google, his name has been rubbished

Nice one.

availableisme:
You said i and the accused are one where is your evidence for this? Brickface!

So after all the mouth of being an oil tycoon and an employer that has 34 employees some few milions that you stole is what has made you run away like a senseless rat. .

I am happy that the name Samuel Ekweme has lost total credibility on nairaland and the religious section and there is nothing you can do about it again.

felixomor:
Firstly, no part of the experiment conducted there in the article you just provided disproves the occurrence of supernatural events as you lied about.

Secondly, here is a part of your own article,

"This work was followed by a study where scientists tried to stimulate the temporal lobes with a rotating magnetic field produced by a "God helmet". Michael Persinger, from Laurentian University in Ontario, found that he could artificially create the experience of religious feelings – the helmet's wearer reports being in the presence of a spirit or having a profound feeling of cosmic bliss.

Dr Persinger said that about eight in every 10 volunteers report quasi-religious feelings when wearing his helmet. However, when Professor Richard Dawkins, an evolutionist and renowned atheist, wore it during the making of a BBC documentary, he famously failed to find God, saying that the helmet only affected his breathing and his limbs."


You can see that Even Richard Dawkins a well Known staunch atheist failed to experience God when the experiment was performed on him.
You see that even your Evidence has FAILED in your face?

You will always tell lies. The experiment actually had a high success rate because 8 in every 10 volunteer claimed to have some sort of religious experience when they wore the helmet. 8 outbox 10 is a very high number for an experiment. Richard Dawkins just happened to be among the 2 that failed to get the religious feelin out of the 10. My evidence did NOT fail me. You only tried to spin the report to go in line with your position.

Sorry go and read the story of Frankie Lymon, a real life event where 3 women claimed to be the real wife of him when he died. They all gave different accounts of their lives with him.

At the end of the day, it was discovered that he actually married the 3 of them.

So your fallacious thinking of saying people giving different versions means the topic does not exist is foolishness.
Sorry to say

What different accounts did they give? Did any of thrm say he had 3 heads and another said he had 2? Look at the claims of religions about God. It is always prospesterous. Some claim the Gods are many, while. Others claim that the God is a single entity. Some claim he is 3 in one while others claim God is of the female gender. Each culture decides what God is to them based on culture.

Let me ask you is Allah the God that created the universe? What about Brahma? Why or why not? Billions of people believe they did, and how did those Gods come about? Why is Brahma so close and agrees with the culture of the Indians?

You provided evidence for invention of deism, not religion.
Invention means the pioneer of an idea (in other words the first person to start an idea)

And when u discovered that u couldn't humble yourself to admit you didn't know who started it, you started repeating the same sentence hundred times.
Childish!

I gave you an example.of Mohammed as a person that invented a type of religion. I also gave you examples of the people that wrote down the Jesus stories together qithbthe early chirch fathers that created the theology and doctrines as the people that invented the christian religion.

Please how did u know my belief?
Anyways, u r the father of assumptions
I am not surprised.

After challenging me and it failed how will you not run away from it.

Imaginary, yet u spend 7 days of the week discussing him?
Abeg are you from Shutter Island?

Spend days discussing with you about your man made beliefs and why you think they are special and divine is what I do because it facinates me.

Sorry, its on record, you defended the koran and islam.
You can't change it.
So sorry

Show me. Are you making records up as usual?

Sorry even your evidence you provided failed to back you up on this.
Please do better reading before providing evidence, next time.

Shalom, Cheers brah

The evidence I provided did not fail me. You are just trying to spin it. Cheers.

:-X9

availableisme:
Mr accuser let me advice you before you pop a blood vessel out of senseless rage and delusion. You laid the accusation so i believe for you to do that you can prove your allegation by yourself am i correct? Would you arrive at a conclusive allegation without having tangible self convincing facts that drove you that that position? Of course not.

So prove to us that i am your alleged accused. Since you already have the Brickset mind that i am so it should be a breeze for you. Let me step aside and allow you show your proof.

The accused is in Nigeria. Your evidence for this is what? Shameless criminal.

availableisme:
My point was Location and not identity. Can you post your pic to also prove to us that you are not the accused as well? Please go ahead.

The picture did not prove any location. Just shut us up by showing your face.

availableisme:
My moniker is availableisme and my name is Anosike get it straight. Why ask me for further proof since you are hell bent on the fact that i am the accused. Are you no longer sure?

What am I to do with a name you just threw at me. Show your face if you are not the accused. You posted a picture to prove point before. Why scared of posting another picture to prove another point? How do you know that the accused is in Nigeria? Where is the evidence that he is in Nigeria.

availableisme:
stop salivating over a strangers face. Salivate over yours.

You always give yourself away with your antics.

availableisme:
And who wishes to play games with a Brick? Since you claim i am the accused why not provide tangible evidence backing it up so we can then proceed to where the accused might be. I for one know i am in Binz right now in Jagerhaus having a light dinner so i cannot speak for the accused since you say i am the accused. Will i be my own Judge and Jury?

You posted a picture with your name to prove a point that you aren't the accused. Now we want you to go further and show your face and shut us all up. Why post a picture in the first place?

availableisme:
Prove myself? Stop deluding yourself. I have nothing to prove.

But you just took a picture and posted to prove a point. Why not take a full picture of your face so that we will know that you aren't the accused.

availableisme:
Where is your evidence that makes me one and the same with the accused. Convince me with your evidence besides hearsay or that I spoke up for him. Where is the personal evidence you have?

You claim that the accused is still in Nigeria. Your evidence that he is still in Nigeria is what? I won't play your games. If you are not the accused and you know that he is in Nigeria then provide evidence to show that he is still in Nigeria and that you are not the accused.

availableisme:
At this juncture I give up. Believe what you will since you are set on auto drive.

How do you know that someone who is on the run is still in Nigeria. Where is your evidence to show that Mr Samuel is still in Nigeria. Where is it?

availableisme:
Impress you? Can Mr Samuel be in Nigeria and Germany at the same time? I am only trying to get past your brickface by showIng you that you are so wrong.

And how do you know that Mr Samuel is in Nigeria? After stealing people's money and running away to an undisclosed location you are busy saying that you are still in Nigeria. You are shameless.

KingEbukasBlog is just angry that the atheist are forcing him to think about his version of God. There is this fear in him that they might be right hence the need to fight backwith what ever he has.

availableisme:
Mr Brickface get your mind off your wrong assumption. Care to join me in Ostseebad?

You think that stealing people's money and running to an unknown location will impress me? When will this criminal ever learn?

availableisme:
So when a moniker quotes another it means it is quoting itself? Can I also assume that by quoting hopefullandlord you also quoted yourself because you are either the one behind his moniker or he is the one behind yours?

Anyway I won't even let you lot mess up my vacation.

Everybody knows that you are 4everGod. It's very obvious, you can fool your self alone. Am so happy your shenanigans aren't working for most people here , at least many people have noticed and stated that you are 4everGod, so.your shenanigans have failed. I repeat pay back the money you stole and go beg for forgiveness instead of acting like a deranged goat all over the place.

Otemdomino pls stay on topic and do not allow these criminal availableisme aka 4everGod to distract people's attention from this topic. Enough of this Kristen matter. Let's focus on how the criminal should be caught and made to pay back the.money he absconded with. That's what every body's focus should be.

Rapture ko dissappearance ni. Be there fooling yourself with the mythology of ancient people.

felixomor:
If they say you bring evidence now for this you will start messing around again.
Unfortunately, you lie.
Many supernatural events have been recorded.
And a wintnessed fact can be a belief.
I dont know who taught u grammar.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/science/belief-and-the-brains-god-spot-1641022.html%3Famp

Give me a very clear example of a supernatural event that was recorded that can never be disputed and who ever sees it will conclude that it was a supernatural event.

Version argument here is completely irrelevant.
Two sons can have different opinions about their father.
It doesn't mean their father is non existent.
U garrit?

It is not. Not when one son tells you that their father has two heads and the other tells you that thier father has 3 heads. All Gods are a cultural invention. The Jews invented theirs, so did the Arabs, yiur ancestors had their own versions of Gods they invented as well. Of not that the slave traders invaded our lands you would have been worshipping the Gods your ancestors invented not that of the colonialist.

Everyone knows you are the most emotional person here.
You are the one who normally provides no evidence yet continues to repeat the same sentence.

I've provided more than enough evidence to show you that your religion is an invention of humans.

Sorry u r mistaking identity here



Me ?
I hope you are not dreaming.
You are the one who prayed to be killed.
Reset your brain, u will remember.

Ou challenged me to try your God and insult him aND see what will happen to me, I did and it blew up in you face. You actuallybelieved if I said the prayers something bad will happen to me. As usual your imaginary God disappointed you.

Sorry God has better things to do.

And he told you that when? He has better things to do or he remains imaginary and can't do anything in reality?

Says the person who has jumped from defending koran to Christianity to atheism.
Why should You be taken serious?

Defending which Islam? I only use Islam as an example to show you how ridiculous and inane your assertions are. Example when a christian threatens me with Hell, I quickly tell him that he'll burn in Allah's hell for his unbelief just son that he'll see how idiotic his threats are.

No need to ask for proof here.
You dont even know what proof means.




Repeating the same sentence without proof
Hehehehe, is that all?

Your religion and God remains invention of men. I know it hurts but that's the fact.

Origin:
There is only one God one message. It's man's interpretation that changes.


For those who wish to see God- some create idols, crosses and images. Man decides how many times he wants to worship his defined god.
Man serves his god his presumed favorite dishes- eggs, palmoil, solid pap etc in a nice Calabash.

Some choose Men with unique powers, attributes, body parts, gallant warriors as their god.

Some feel that since He can't be seen then He does not exist.

Some feel men are too small and prefer the sun, the moon, the biggest tree, mountains rivers as their god.

You choose how you define God. - God's way or your way.
But remember he has kept .5 of his promise - sent reminders (evidence exists)........ The other 0.5 is We All go back to Him for Judgement.

All Gods are man made ideas. Fact!

felixomor:
Sorry i will rather stick to the opinions of these scientists who found that people are almost born to believe in a higher power.
It is in our make up.
Rather man invented atheism becos of anger towards God.
And that's why u r always here.

Sure the same scientist in another studies have also said religious experience aren't supernatural but natural part of our brain function once conditioned to certain things. Beliefs aren't facts. That people believe something doesn't make it true, after all about 70% percent of the world's population doesn't believe in your own version of God that other men created because they also have their own God versions. Beliefs aren't facts. That you believe something doesn't make it true.

You are only emotionally attached to your beliefs that is why you believe that who ever disagrees with your God idea is angry. Some muslims and christians have even gone ahead of you, they kill those that disagree with them because they feel they are evil not just angry because of their disbelief .

You are actually are not different from them because you once told me to mock your God so that he'll kill me, I did and it failed to your face and you ran away in shame.
I am always here, go tell your God to delete my account so that I can stop disturbing you guys. After all you believe he is all powerful and you wanted him to even harm me the other time. You are completely deluded. I know it hurts that I keep.pointing out to you that your specially held beliefs are nothing but inventions of oter men that have no power in reality as you are made to believe. Cry all yu want but your religion and everything about it remains a man made invention just like all the other religions.

felixomor:
Truth is hurting you.
Someone who has "defended" everything on Nairaland from christianity to koran to pornography should not be taken seriously.
He is an unstable soul.

Doesn't take away the fat that you are a porn adict. It hurts you but it's true. Sorry, but it must be said.

felixomor:
I still remember ur parade on how man started theism
........
Anyways If I say I should start discussing with u now,
Before u know u will start rolling around again.
So let me just hold it.

Men starterted all forms of theism, from polytheism to monotheism. Even the type of thiesm your were indoctrinated with was invented by men.

felixomor:
I can see that your sunday sunday foolishness is out again

Truth hurts.

felixomor:
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Thank you my brother KingEbukasblog
For this informative post

Here is a science article that backs up this article

http://www.science20.com/writer_on_the_edge/blog/scientists_discover_that_atheists_might_not_exist_and_thats_not_a_joke-139982

The funny part is that the scientist who carried out the research being referenced in the article is a staunch atheist.
But he was sincere enough (unlike the ones here) to admit that atheism appears to be alien to the human make up.

As a matter of fact, some even concluded that atheists dont exist.

Being alien to the human make up doesn't make it untrue.

KingEbukasBlog:
.Typical shallow response from the atheist . Not every religion or religious beliefs involve an after-life . There are people who acknowledge the existence of God while rejecting the belief in the after-life . Atheists in Buddhism accept the belief in reincarnation . Atheists in Jainism belief that man attain godhood when he dies . Atheists in Unitarian Universalism seek spiritual growth .

God is beyond the purview of religion

What you've just shown is that all religions are man made ideas, that is why there are different types of God's and religions.