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KingEbukasBlog:
When you have endless spate of attacks against atheism by winner01 , you have to start acknowledging the existence of God . That's the rational thing to do : www.nairaland.com/winner01/topics

Winner01's post actually prove that there is no God that exist.

hopefulLandlord:
good thing someone else actually quoted your post here https://www.nairaland.com/229531/atheist-house#3431534

that removes any possibility that you just edited your post today

I was a christian when I joined nairaland in 2008. All my post are there. I didn't comment much. I mostly read.

felixomor:
Wow
Abeg show us links to the posts where you were defending the faith.
No vex..

Here is one.


https://www.nairaland.com/229531/atheist-house#3431470

My earliest post were all christian post in defence of the faith. I became an atheist on nairaland simply by rea ding the debates between the christians vs muslims and theist vs atheist.

felixomor:
Hehehehe
Nice question.

Akintom, dalaman, CatfishBilly, maybe u guys can come and answer.

I became an atheist just by reading arguments on nairaland. Go and read my earliest post.They are all there. I defended the faith here on nairaland. I was a staunch christian just like you. Nairaland made me an atheist.

felixomor:
I once asked that comedian you are addressing, to tell us where man first invented theism
He got stuck and started playing around
Then at end of playing around,
He shouts "all i know is it was created by man"
...

I have never seen such stubborn ignorance.

Men invented christianity. It's theology and doctrines. Now go ahead and cry all you want.

Islam is generally a religion of stupidity and madness. The way they do most of their things leaves me stunned.

Ishilove:
You make a lot of baseless assumptions.

Let your beliefs in Jesus show in what you do and say. You can't give what you don't have.

Ishilove:
Opinions are like the anus; everyone's got them. You've espoused your opinions which I've noted and duly discarded. Thank you.

You can't give what you don't have. You can keep talking about wanting to be like Jesus but your actions will always give you away because you do not believe in anything he says.

Ishilove:
I try to be like Jesus, I really do, but until I can attain that level of grace I will keep putting mannerless people like you in their place.

Rubbish.

Try to be like which Jesus. The teachings of Jesus means nothing to you because you know they are foolish. If they aren't you'll abide by them. Stop using stupid excuses like inability to attain some imaginary and elusive grace that doesn't exist anywhere. Bottom.line is the teachings of Jesus are stupid and foolish to you and you will never want to abide by them b cause the pacifism he espoused are idiotic, you know it very well and will never abide by them.

HardMirror:
Exactly. Christians don't give a Bleep about truth or the actual teachings of jesus where they are supposed to be more after heaven's gains than their eartly loses.
They are money hungry, they have majority of cases in court (not ready to accept any loses or hand over their battles to god). How bad can self deception be.

You've said it all.

daylyt:
Wow. .
but this is unchristianlike behaviour..

It's well sha. ..

Christlike behavior? They all know that all the nonsense pacifism Jesus thought is thrash and will not want to have anything to do with it. They are all deluded.

felixomor:
From the impact of raw truth.....
Hence the pain.

Where is the truth na? That he raised a dead person back to life ? Or that he healed a nameless nairalander of HIV over the phone? Which one na?

felixomor:
Abeg keep quiet.
We know you are yet to recover.

From what? The fact that he was caught red handed using his two monikers as two different people or the fact that he has allegations of fraud to his name by many people here on nairaland?

felixomor:
You are the only shameless person I have seen that doesnt even know he is shameless.

See the fraud and liar you were shamelessly championing as an agent of truth caught red handed using his two monikers to converse with himself like two different people. As usual anything you claim is true is always a lie.

HardMirror:
I always say it. As an ex-christian, I can boldly say I have not met a SINGLE christ-like (christian) here so far. Not Joagbaje, not ishilove, not 4evergod. These are people that think insults and e-wars is same as evangelism. (Smiles). What a pity. Bunch of shameless clowns. Sometimes I wish hell was real cos its so sure that's their lot. Christians my ass

Felixomor shamelessly claims that 4everGod has been telling us the truth here. A liar with multiple IDs that has been clearly been caught using his diffrent monikers to answer while engaging himself in a conversation . .

KingEbukasBlog:
The discussion is based on what we know about life on earth . The information obtained from this research is the basis of Craig's argument . Your response does not refute it in any way .

Some other researchers said have stated that the research is misleading and false.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.newscientist.com/article/dn13694-evolution-myths-evolution-is-just-so-unlikely/amp/

KingEbukasBlog:
Another anthropocentric fallacy . The universe is not human-centered . The Creator fine-tuned the universe to be life-permitting . And in other planets there could be other intelligent beings that could have conflicting thoughts and beliefs about the creator's existence .

Show that there is only one creator then we can begin from there.

KingEbukasBlog:
We also know that the followers of Charvaka atheist school of "philosophy" in India alongside Diagoras of Melos 2500 years ago were without doubt the very first people who developed the idea that there is no God . 3,000 and 4000 years before the aforementioned time there was no recorded person in history that espoused such atheistic beliefs .

Sure, doesn't matter. The reality is that both atheism and theism are man made inventions. Without men there won't be theism or atheism.

KingEbukasBlog:
It is actually a factual statement . Atheism is man made invention . The belief there is no God is a mere human belief and its totally incongruous with reality

Sure the belief that there are no Gods is the same one as the belief that there are Gods. All man made creation. We know how humans started in their history of belief. Himans started worshipping things on nature like mountains, thunder, stars, sun, rivers etc as they advanced they invented invisible beings to help them better understand the world around then and to instill what ever concept of morality the want their societies to live by.

Your own idea of God, the one that has a son and came into the world and sacrificed himself unto himself so that he can save humans from some elusive doom if only they accepted the invented stories was just invented about 2000 years ago. 3000 years ago there was no Jesus as the son of God or no God that exist as a trinity that came down to earth and had himself killed anywhere in human history.

KingEbukasBlog:
Theism is true because atheism is a man made creation and idea .


Sir , You really need to understand how silly this statement . I laugh hysterically every time you say it .

It is actually a factual statement. All religions and Gods are man made creations. Gods do not exist on their own outside human belief.

Blogthug:
don't play dumb now, (G)od by classical theism is defined as creator of universe, so prove God doesn't exist, or u agree God exists since everything exists?

So God exist only by definition? Show me that only one God exist and that he created the universe alone already instead of speaking endless English.

Blogthug:
fallacy of composition, classical theism God =/=gods , now prove God is man made, note u didn't claim they don't exist tho just that they are man made

They are man made ideas and conception. Now tell.me when any God personally told you that he created the universe alone. When and where dI'd such a God tell you that?

Blogthug:
the fact that all gods are man made proves they exist, can something be "made " and not exist? how about ( G)od creator of universe? can u prove God is man made? as well, would love to watch

God creator of the universe? When did such a God tell you he created the universe and alone? When and where did he tell you that?

Blogthug:
god's are man made ideas correct, if ideas exist then those god's Exists this doesn't imply to God tho, note the capital G

All Gods are man made ideas including yours, what ever God it is.

Blogthug:
when last did u question your atheistic belief? do u think atheism is true? why?

I question my atheistic belief. Atheism is true because all Gods are man made creations and ideas.

KingEbukasBlog:
You missed it sir . The probability that the human genome evolved is so infinitesimal that without it being the intention of God that life would exist, the sun would have ceased to be a star and destroyed the earth making it impossible for life to exist in the first place . So yes , God intended life to be .

This is completely not true considering the fact that there are gazillions of stars (suns) that have many earth like planets all over the universe. That we have a sun and the earth is nothing considering the fact that there are gazillions of such occurance all over the universe.

KingEbukasBlog:
According to Willian Craig in his debate against Hitchens :

The Anthropic Cosmological principle list ten steps in the course of human evolution each of which is so improbable that before it would occur the sun would have ceased to be a main sequence star and incinerated the earth. And they calculate the probability of the evolution of the human genome to be somewhere between four to the negative 180th power to the 110,000th power and four to the negative 360th power to the 110,000th power. So if evolution did occur on this planet, it was literally a miracle and therefore evidence for the existence of God. So, I don't think this is an argument for atheism. Quite the contrary, it really provides good grounds for thinking that God superintended the process of biological development.

I've mentioned this exact statement in a thread where we both had an argument but you failed to respond to this .

Dr Craig is a word salad master. So highly improbable events are evidence for God? This assertion is empty because it offers no detail. Even if evolution occurs and is highly improbable it still doesn't point to any God.

KingEbukasBlog:
Now answer :

Is there evidence that science would answer all questions ?

Nope, but science so far has demonstrated to be the ONLY medium for we to gain objective and factual answers to things. Religion has no objective answer to offer humanity as a whole. Only science does that.

Is your atheism based on a supposed absence of evidence for the existence of God

My atheism is based on the fact that all Gods are a human creation.

All are truths that exist supported by science ?

Truth is relative. Objective truths are supported and back mostly by science. Scientific truths are the same the wored over. Science is the only things that helps us to determine what is factual and what isn't.

How would science prove the existence of God ?

It will show this entity God to be objectively true tp humans regardless their religious beliefs, orientation and many other factors. God will be just like as objective as the multiplication table for example. It will be true the world over and to all humans.

What is the most compelling evidence of God that would make you recant your atheistic views and opinions ?
Define evidence .

Please let your response be perspicuous . Thanks

A God that is objectively clear to all human beings. That will be enough evidence.

hopefulLandlord:
but you have another chance, you claim you're a Christian, right? what's the proof of Yahweh, tell us the proof of Yahweh being the true Supreme god;

KingEbukasBlog is very wise. He doesn't argue for Yahweh. He just hides behind the label God to spew his nonsense. He'll begin with the deist God and end with the pantheist God, you'll never see him arguing for Yahweh God because he knows it's dead on arrival.

Once he begins he knows he won't be able to move further and will be caught in his delusions. He doesn't wa t that so he just jumps to what ever concept to just show that there is this God concept that must be accepted. He is really learning from his masters William Lane Craig and the rest that sometimes openly throw the bible under the bus because they want to prove some delusional nonsense.

William Craig once said that God did not tell the ancient Jews to carry out all the old testament atrocities when confronted with OT morality in a debate. But the same William Craig will go and tell his fellow christians that the bible is the inerrant word of God.

KingEbukasBlog:
Let me deign to your level and think like you just this once . Our cars generators produce carbon mono oxide which is deleterious to our health . Because this harmful gas released as waste can even kill us therefore cars , generators have no creators ?

Sarin is a dangerous chemical weapon and was recently used by President Assad on the Syrians . Because it has devastating effects on the health therefore Sarin is not a product of intelligent design ?



Its an honor to be in the same category with felixomor . Thank you

You love comparing apples to stones.

You claim that only God can explain the existence of life in the universe. The existence of life looks more like a highly improbable occurance in the universe compared to it being an intentional occurrence. Life only exist in the part of the universe that is completely insignificant. Take our whole galaxy sway and the universe will not even feel it talk less of our solar system.

Life so far has been detected only on earth and everywhere where we have looked into will eliminate life immediately. So how does the universe look like a place that was created to support life?

felixomor:
My brother, u are right.
E dey pain me for u

Say I dey always tell you the truth na.

felixomor:
See who is measuring knowledge, DALAMAN

LMAO

E pain am.