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CatfishBilly:
He doesn't even realize it.
Does he even know that there are 5 proven mass extinction events on Earth?
Or they're are 190 impact craters of asteroids on earth.
If God kept us on Earth, why is he repeatedly trying to kill us.
Intelligent design my ass.
I'm starting to group KingEbukasBlog in the same category with Felix.

. No. KingEbukasBlog is very bright and knowledgeable, he trolls a lot sometimes but he can't be grouped together with felixomor.

CatfishBilly:
God of the gaps argument
Argumentum ad ignorantiam.
Now, where have I seen these before?

He said God is the best argument for why there is intelligent life in the universe. . The same universe that is completely out to destroy life. Life can not even survive outside space talk more of the universe as a whole.

KingEbukasBlog:
God : The extremely powerful uncaused necessarily existing non-contingent non physical immaterial eternal being who created the universe and everything in it . Created in the sense the universe relies on God's existence for its existence .

Are we clear now ?

Yeah. I want to understand why your God must be non physical and immaterial?

How does the universe rely on God's existence for its own existence. How can we know this for sure?

johnydon22:
what makes a God?

Is a thing God because it created the universe or is God still God whether or not it created the universe?

Very interesting questions. This is what I've always wanted to ask KingEbukasBlog.

AgentOfAllah:
I doubt I have ever claimed that the "universe came from nothing". I don't even know what "nothing" means. Nor do I know what Laurence Krauss' views are on the subject matter, so it is curious how you've come to infer that I "tacitly" endorse his supposed view of the origins of the universe.

KingEbukasBlog have you been caught lying?

KingEbukasBlog:
You are throwing the same questions back at me sir . Your questions were well answered . Allegory ? The bible is filled with allegories which apparently the creation story is one of them . Why God isn't revealing all things ? Because anything unknown or mysterious draws our interest and excites our minds . If God or His works were an open book I strongly doubt we would show interest towards unraveling the mystery behind the existence of God (Asiety) or His works ( Science ) . We are totally riveted with discoveries in nature and studying the nature of God's being because these are enigmas . What is wrong with this response sir ?

The creation story isn't an allegory because many christians don't see it that way. What criteria is used know if something is an allegory or not?

God is said to want people to KNOW that he created the universe. It is not said that he wants people to unravel anything. It is said that he wants people to KNOW and it is important to him that people know. Humans have made a lot of discoveries about nature on their own and they haven't found anything pointing to any God anywhere. If God doesn't want people to know about how he created the universe he wouldn't have attempted to even talk about it in the bible for example.

KingEbukasBlog:
Therefore , the universe is eternal ?

I mean what other possibility is left ? See how you spoilt show for yourself . Finally the truth has been discovered .

Mister mister

Mr eternal universe .

Oya Oya Now produce the scientific evidence backing this belief or else you are seriously deluded . Let's have fun sir . Let's go !

False dichotomy from your side. It is not God or nothing. The universe could be eternal. No scientist knows that. It could be created, no scientist knows that as well. The nature of what created the universe even if it were created is UNKNOWN. When I talk about God am talking about Yahweh, Allah, Brahama, Odin etc. Non of these Gods created the universe. Unless if you want to run and hide behind the unknown and undefined desitic concept of God to run away .

KingEbukasBlog:
Even before modern scientific evidence backed theism , theologians believed the sixth-day creation shouldn't be taken literary . First it was Jewish scholar Philo of Alexandria in the first century and then Christian theologian Augustine of Hippo also made the same observation in the 4th century .

These guys whose names you dropped didn't write the bible. They didn't know the intention of the people that wrote those creation myth. That is if it was meant to be taken literally or not. There is no where inside the bible that sas or suggest that the creation myth isn't to be taken literally. Many young earth creationist even here on nairaland give it a literal 6 day interpretation why are they wrong? What is the true position of Yahweh on creation? Does he want prole to believe in what he told people to write in the bible or not? You can ask him.that as well since you claim to communicate with him.

[What makes something an enigma ? The mystery or wonder behind its existence , behavior or acts . Let's look at the magicians . What makes magic interesting is that the magicians' prestidigitation or subterfuge is difficult to decipher . His acts of magic leaves you transfixed . If a magician reveals the mystery behind his acts then it ceases to be an enigma . You immediately lose interest .

One of the laws of power is never to be an open book . You lose control over people or their interests if they could easily understand you or predict your moves . Mystery excites the mind . God could have seen things this way . Please mind you . I'm not saying this is what it is , I'm saying this could be what it is

I think God wants man to relish the wonder behind His existence and his works ; to work tirelessly employing different ways and means to make these discoveries and that is what makes science(the study of God's works or nature ) and the philosophy of theism intriguing and exciting . Unlike atheism which is vapid and somniferous

Magicians by definition are tricksters that use tricks to beguile those they entertain. God on the other hand is said to want people to KNOW that he alone created the earth and everything. He is interested in people knowing. Your God even gave a failed attempt of how the universe came about in the book of genesis, because he wants people to know.

You can't compare magicians that want to conceal the tricks they employ witha God that is said to want people to know that he alone created everything.

Communicte with your God already and tell us how he create the earth so that we will know that he alone created it or just accept that you are delusional.

KingEbukasBlog:
What the ... . Oh come on sir . By this logic , since atheism is a man made invention then my view of a created universe is automatically validated . Where was this reasoning all this time my kind sir

Not at all. Just trying to point out the dichotomy between the universe and God. One is a man made created entity while the other isn't factually speaking that is.

Of course . But don't forget , one of the expected corollaries of rejecting the existence of God is that the universe came from nothing . Yeah ?

Not necessarily so. I don't believe the universe came from nothing but I disbelief in all Gods.

KingEbukasBlog:
God expresses freedom of will as a personal creator . What if God does not want to tell me ?

Why won't he want to tell you? God according to you guys wants people to KNOW that he created the earth and everything. It is IMPORTANT to God that people know that he alone created the earth. Before people got to know many things. The creation myth written inside the bible was used as evidence of how God allegedly created the earth. When people got to know a lot about things it was thrown away and said to be an allegory. Telling you will gain him converts from both atheist and other theist. It will make people know that he alone is God the creator that created everything.

Just ask him to tell you how he created the Earth after all the Jesus (God) in the bible says what ever you ask him for you shall recieve . Ask him.to tell you how he created the earth else just accept you are delusional.

KingEbukasBlog:
Sir , I dont understand how you of all people don't get this . If you don't know how the universe came about , it means you can't say if it was created or not created ; contingent or non contingent; necessarily existing or not . Then you have no logical reason to be an atheist which rejects the existence of a creator . Simple !

Atheism is simply the rejection or disbelief in Gods. Gods are man made ideas and creations. The universe isn't a man made idea or creation. Note the difference.

AgentofAllah , Kay17 tacitly agrees with Lawrence Krauss .

OK. I haven't seen any arguments from them in support of what you are saying. But even if they agree they are individuals and they do not represent atheism in any way.

KingEbukasBlog:
. Because I don't know how God created the universe does not mean God did not create the universe . I don't need to know how something was created to accept it was created . We just had this same argument 3 days ago sir . Don't forget how you incessantly used the anthropocentric fallacy to support your argument

This is a different case. You claim to communicate with the creator of the earth which is a living being that speaks and understands the human language. Communicate with it and tell us how it created the earth. . Or is your claim of communication delusion at its finest?

hahn:
Lol

Guy are you still a Christian?

He is not a a christian. At least he doesn't even believe in the bible and how it says it's God created the universe. KingEbukasBlog, how did Yahweh create planet earth? You claim you communicate with him. Communicate with him.and tell us. Or are you telling duluded lies as usual when you claim to communicate with the creator of the planet earth?

KingEbukasBlog:
Sir D , we have discussed this issue over and over again . Right now in North Korea , atheists kill any one who has religious beliefs and yes because they believe there is no God .

Just as your God commanded that people be killed including their animals and sacrificed as burnt offering to him because they worshipped other Gods.

KingEbukasBlog:
Ugh ! Another shallow thought from the usual . I said "atheists" not "atheism" . Atheists believe the universe came from nothing does not mean all atheists believe that . The logic behind my statement is : since atheists reject the existence of a creator then a universe from nothing fits properly into atheistic beliefs .

No it doesn't. Many atheist don't know how the universe came about and always say it. Tell me one atheist on nairaland that has claimed that the universe came from nothing . Mention one. Lawrence Krauss is an individual he is not atheism.

KingEbukasBlog:
I'm talking about the causally potent conscious entity that caused the existence of the universe . You can give IT whatever religious name or appellation you want , that's your business sir

Just prove once and for all that a SINGLE ENTITY that is consious caused the universe or shut up. We are tired of your meaningless and empty drivel already. Your evidence that the universe was caused by a single entity is WHAT?

KingEbukasBlog:
SMH in over 200 million people killed by atheists over the past 100 years .

They were killed in the name of atheism?

Stewie101:
They rave because their cherished beliefs are being threatened. They rave because they have been so emotionally invested into their belief system which informs their behaviors and actions, and plays a huge consolatory, inspiratory and motivational role in their lives, and any attempt by anyone to examine these beliefs, as if trying to prove it's untenability is perceived as a violation of their happiness and sensibilities.

They also rave because they are humans and as such express the all too human tendency to become offended when their sense of reasoning is being called into question. Because if you subscribe tenaciously to ideas that are wrong, especially if you have subscribed to these ideas for years, it says a lot about how much of an intelligent and reasonable person you are.

They also rave because you are questioning and challenging the supremacy of their god. Everyone wants people to respect and accord reverence to things they they respect and venerate, and if someone says something that does the opposite of this, they are bound to get angry.

They get violent and wish you death for questioning their beliefs. That's why they label unbelief as a very bad and dangerous thing, while hailing belief and promoting it as a very excellent virtue.

chijioke675:
People who doubt dont win game OK
Why not call with a strong heart and give it a try OK
Call or WhatsApp the number below if interested thanks

Send money to this man at your own peril. He is a scammer.

So all this ritual just because two people want to have sex??

felixomor:
Bro, just say

"I dont know who started it first"
Is a humble statement that can change your life for good.
Stop deceiving yourself playing defense.

Admit the ignorance and move on with life.

All religions are man made.

felixomor:
Of course you are one of the people he has impacted with raw uncomfortable truth.

Should I be surprised these claims of yours?
Absolutely not.

Raw uncomfortable truth that he is mixed race when he isn't or that he brought back a nameless person back to life? Which uncomfortable truth did he impact me with? Care to tell us?

felixomor:
Your problem is your innate inability to admit your ignorance.
You make a statement you cant back up and you start beating around the bush just because you want to defend that ignorant statement by all means.

You escaped with deism and theism got stuck in your throat.
And you started coughing up and down.
Mscheww.

Which statement did I make without backing? Did men create theism? Yes they did. Theism isn't a single set of belief but a very wife set of beliefs, asking me who invented theism is just like asking me who invented food. Jellof rice is food. You can only ask me about its history and I'll tell you. Asking me who invented food is blockheadedness. Theism is a form of belief, and it is only humans that hold such beliefs. Christianity was formed by humans, humans wrote don the stories, invented the theology and doctrines. Most of them are known and without them there will be no christianity. Same applies to Hinduism, Islam and all other religions.

If you know any religion that wasn't invented by human beings go ahead and bring it.

felixomor:
Says the one who does all his verification on Nairaland.

I hear u

If you know his where about just state it so that he can be arrested.

felixomor:
Exactly brother. LMAO

This is the testimony of the impact he made in their lives.

Which impact? He LIED that he resurrected a person back to life. When asked for details he chickened out like a rat. He also lied that he's half Ukrainian only to be exposed by Lepasharon as a normal Nigerian. He lied that he healed a nairalander of HIV through phone call, when asked for details he ran away as usual. He has bee accused by many others of fraud on the auto section. He is a known scammer and a compulsive liar so how has made any impact in anybody's life. Unless if you mean lying and fraudulent activities make impact in people's lives.

felixomor:
Go and sit down abeg.

If you know where the criminal is just say it so that he'll fave justice. Most of the people accusing him.of fraud on the auto section ate christians so you cant claim it's atheist that are trying to tarnish his image.

felixomor:
You accuse someone of crime,
Is this where they accuse and criminals?
Is nairaland a police station?
Why dont you therefore go to a station with your evidence and press your accusations?


You always talk like a drunk.

What is this one saying? The man has been accused of being a criminal by many others. Nairaland is also a business platform were many come to conduct business. I personally have conducted business worth millions of Naira with people here . The person that accused him has already reported him to the police. Your man has ran away from his house to an unknown location him and his wife. His phone numbers which he loves throwing at people faces are off and you are here crying as usual. If you know his location say it and see if he won't be arrested.

KingEbukasBlog:
Hmmm . I see your point sir . I want to finally tell you the truth : I am an atheist .

Yes , I am . And fellow atheist Hahn absquatulated with my money . Where is that criminal . Sir Dalaman , produce your criminal friend . Mind you both of us are atheists .

Hahn .. na joke o

Keep denying your friend.

lilbest4:
This Ebuka is very funny. Check the account of those accusing Damogul and tell us if

1 they are newly created accounts
2 they were active in religion section

KingEbukasBlog is not serious as usual. The guys accusing him of fraud are christians and most of them don't even post on the religious section. The post mostly on the auto section where he is known for trying to swindle people. KingEbukasBlog, you better he produce your criminal friend oo. He didn't swidle an atheist but a fellow christian, so do the right thing.

KingEbukasBlog:
This delusion is strong oo . Popular atheist C S Lewis after studying the evidential truth of the existence of Christ on earth renounced atheism and became a Christian . Prior to the abjuration of his atheistic beliefs he denigrated Christ because he thought Christ was a fictional Character . Same with numerous atheists over the centuries .

Historians no matter the religious affiliation agree that Christ is a historical figure , the only contentious issue is his divinity.

Of course I also believe that there was a human being behind the legend, jut as there was a human being behind the Mohammed legend and many other religious legendary and mythological tales.

Currently scientists have teamed up with religious scholars to discover the DNA of Christ and then his descendants who are currently alive today (Jesus had brothers remember? ) . They also said to have discovered the bones of John the Baptist which would help them in their search since John was Christ's cousin . Experts have analyzed artifacts including Shroud of Turin - which is believed to have been used to wrap Jesus before his resurrection - and the Sudarium of Oviedo

(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4419810/Scientists-religious-scholars-hunt-DNA-JESUS.html)

What is this nonsense? This is an excercise in futility. Discover the DNA of Jesus? Who are the members of his blood line that are alive today? Where are they located? They are just building castles in the air.This is a joke.

Peter lived 30 years after Christ had died and wrote his own letters yet you believe some of Christ's stories were made up . Christ does not need to write stories about Himself . People rarely wrote autobiographies , its mostly others were are inspired by their works that pen down biographies.

All of the Jesus stories were made up by Christians that came long after Jesus died. The first gospel was written about 40 years after he died by an unknown person until the early church father like Papias and Ireaneus ascribed a name to ot to give it legitimacy. Which perter wrote down his own letters? The authorship remains contested by scholars.

In China , Chinese scholars compiled a series of writings called the 21 Histories , an official biography of the Han Dynasty and of each Dynasty which included stories , stats , census figures and chronicles of the wars fought . The Emperors , the warlords , the generals never wrote this biographies , the scholars did years after these events happened . But you don't have the audacity to impugn the veracity of these stories , do you ?

I don't care about them. If there is any claim to these stories that need my attention I will examine them and criticize or debunk where necessary.

What about stories of Confucius who lived 500 years before Christ ? Chi Shi Huang Ti in his attempt to unify China around 210 BC destroyed so many works and written documents about Confucius yet his legacy survived . But no militant atheist against religion bats an eye or even questions the truth about the surviving stories on the life and teachings of Confucius . And Millions of Chinese people are Confucians .

What is this? Are you now crying? What are the claims made by Confuciusthat needs to be debunked by atheist?

But humble Christ who taught love and deplored hatred and enmity remains the most controversial figure in history.

Thrash, Christ thought love and hate at the same time. His love was extended only to those that believe in his message, hate, condemnation and destruction was what he taught against people that refused to accept his message and claims. Read the bible, it's filled with cruelty, death, destruction, racism, misogyny, death, love, kindness, hope, uprightness, etc. It is a mix bag and this reflects in the life of christians throughout history till date.

Anyway , keep on feeding your mind with lies , reassuring yourself with false nonsense and keeping up with the hypocrisy - that's the only way you can remain mentally enslaved

Lies? Is there any truth to be found in the religion you were indoctrinated with? You believe in stories written by mostly unknown men about some elusive character, you believe in a theology created by other men about some religion that they created to enslave people's minds and you still have the audacity to talk about mental enslavement. You are ridiculous.

KingEbukasBlog:
4everGod was certainly a torn in the flesh of the atheist , they'll do just anything to traduce him .

The guy he duped is a christian mind you. All the people that have been accusing him on the auto section of criminal activities are mostly christians to the best of my knowledge. He just came to the Christian section to redeem his image and start a new scam but we atheist never allowed him to succeed. His plan was to start a miracle enterprise and use it to enrich himself but we never allowed him to rest. How can a liar and a criminal be a torn in anybody's flesh?

Where is the criminal naijadeyhia aka 4everGod? KingEbukasBlog and felixomor you guys should help in locating that criminal. Don't pretend not to know what I'd going on. You guys always try to defend him when he was spewing his lies and promoting his fraudulent activities. You shouldn't all try to keep quiet mow that he has absconded with someone's money. KingEbukasBlog don't keep quiet oo. Come and assist.