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KingEbukasBlog:
It will be discussed fully on that thread . Calm down .

Sha not hype all this hype and then disappoint oo

. Am not hyping anything.

KingEbukasBlog:
So sleeping is now running away

I should stay all night arguing aimlessly without rest because ... ?

You said we'll continue today na. You haven't touched it. Anyway what is morality and why do atheist lack a moral compass?

KingEbukasBlog:
In that dispensation yes , in this current dispensation no .

I find no reason to take seriously any atheist that argues on morality .

Atheists have no moral compass , so I don't understand by whose standards they are judging other people

What is morality? And how do athiest lack moral compass?

You ran away from yesterday's thread on morality.

felixomor:
U see, u r out again...
U dont change.

You see, you are in again.
You never change.

felixomor:
Is it not u again?
U forgot the day i demonstrated your double mouth nature?

Check that day, u will find it.

And you also forgot the day I demonstrated that you are a liar?

MrMontella:
please go and sleep...

Red herring master

The same hypocrite will quote wikipedia for you shortly. He is just shameless.

felixomor:
Please i dont have time to do this again for u.
I have done it for u before.

All u do is to move to another route, when i post it.

You did no such thing. Show us specifically where the Koran says that people should follow the teachings of Jesus you liar.

KingEbukasBlog:
You are the same person that said English Translation is rubbish and now that a Christian philosopher has put outside this English translation and properly explained the text with archaeological evidence , he is now trying semantics ?

You are just like you mentor Richard Dawkins . If anything supports Christianity being discredited then he embraces then when the same thing now supports the verity of Christian beliefs , he now goes against it .

Please download his book and read it .

I am just watching this drama in 3D

That's why I said the guy is speaking from both sides of his mouth. If we are to go by archeological evidence the biblical narrative of the conquest is all a myth because non of it is historical. I was just pointing to his double speak. These apologist are used to these kind of tactics. They will change the meaning of words and give them their own personal meaning as if that is what those words truly mean just because they want to explain absurdity away.

felixomor:
The quran tells the prophet to follow the teaching of Jesus.
Jesus said "love ur enemies"

Ignorance will not let u know that.

Where did the Koran say that people should follow the teachings of Jesus you liar? State clearly where the Koran say that people should follow the teachings of Jesus.

KingEbukasBlog:
Exactly ! You nailed it . Christ came and its all over .

In other words those actions were wrong abi?

MrMontella:
what do you mean by it was in their time ?
See cheap talk!

To the servants of allah...it is still thier time...so what nonsense is this


Or Is yahweh(bible) to dictate for allah(quran) when it is ''time''?

Like dalaman said...if you go by divine command theory...please do not complain about islamic killings...


Rubbish!

Abeg forget the clown.

felixomor:
Are u guilty?

Yes or No, baba

No long stories...
U see how ur own story is going, it may even be longer than the first half of this thread....

Guilty of what? You are here defending the actions of a God that acknowledged he did evil and apologised for it. You are telling us that God didn't do any evil or he can not do evil but the bile says you are a liar because God does evil and even apologize for the evil he did.

KingEbukasBlog:
I downloaded Paul Copan's book "Is God a Moral Monster " . Paul Copan is a popular philosopher who has written numerous books

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Copan

The guy is tring to have it both ways. He's trying to use semantics to say ohh, kill all the amalekites doesn't mean you should all kill them, it's just an expression that means you are to win the battle and all the other NONSENSE thrash people like William Craig use. In William Craigs attempt to play such games he said in his debate with Eddy Tabash that maybe God did not tell the Israelites to write down all the things they wrote down meaning they lied. See the extent these apologist can go. Recently he just say he doesn't like talking about OT morality. He just makes his case for the moral argument and goes, if you try to drag him to defend the actions of God in the OT he'll just tell you he doesn't want to do that, which is more honest that most of the jargon he used to spew before.

felixomor:
U r also guilty of genocide on lower and other animals.

What say you?
Yez/No

Its a competing world and I'll have to depend on them for survival. Just the way many microbes also depend on me for survival. Heck if a hungry lion or tiger sees me in the jungle I'll be it's food.

You are still yet to explain to me how a God that claims to love humans is always quick to kill them.

The worse part is you are here defending this said God even when the same God knows that some of his actions are wrong and evil that he even apologized for it. You are deluded.

KingEbukasBlog:
Williams Craig mentioned in the video that the Canaanites were, according to ancient history outside biblical text , morally despicable wicked people . And that their culture was grossly immoral, decadent even to its roots.

The Canaanites practiced divination, witchcraft, female and male temple sex, adultery, homosexuality, transvestitism, pederasty (men sexually abused boys), bestiality and incest.

And if you look at Genesis 19:30 -36 we can see that after Sodom - a Canaanite city - was destroyed by God , daughters of Lot made their own father drunk - this according to history was one of the sexual practices known to the city (incest) which was just annihilated .

The Canaanites also practiced child sacrifice. And according to Lev 18 : 21 God had commanded that the Israelites should never give their children to be sacrificed to Molech .

Here is what Molech looks like :

Molech was a Canaanite underworld deity represented as an upright, bull-headed idol with human body in whose belly a fire was stoked and in whose outstretched arms a child was placed that would be burned to death

And I discovered that it wasn't just infants who were victims of this nauseatingly wicked practice , even toddlers were scarified to Molech . Also note that archaeological evidence proves that the children were burned to death in their thousands . So much wickedness that God now commanded the Israelites to exterminate them after 400 years of reprieve .

And according to Philosophers like Paul Copan all the archaeological evidence available indicates that there were no civilian populations that existed at Jericho, Ai, and other cities mentioned in the book of Joshua .

Philosopher Paul Copan also explained that :

“Joshua’s conventional warfare rhetoric was common in many other ancient Near Eastern military accounts in the second and first millennia B.C.” Therefore, phrases like “utterly destroy” (haram), or “put to death men and women, children, and infants”—as well as other “obliteration language”—were stock “stereotypical” idioms used even when women or children were not present. It decreed total victory (much like your favorite sports team “wiping out” the opposition), not complete annihilation.

So William Craig was right .

You can't point to anything the Caannaties did according to the bible.

William Craig is known for dishonestly appealing to authority. He will lie and drop names knowing very well that people will assume the names are those of distinguished scholars. He knows that people will not check the names and the truth of the claims. He has been caught red handed misquoting or lying about what people wrote down or said.

As for the conquest of Canaan, non such thing happened in reality. The ancient Israelites had thier origin from canaan. The conquest of Canaan like the exodus is non historical. When we debate such things we do them with the assumption that the biblical stories are true.

KingEbukasBlog:
Exactly !

The Canaanites were wicked people who committed despicable acts against humanity . And God gave 400 years to change , 400 years .

And like I said earlier , the same God also made Israel vulnerable to their enemies who also massacred them as way of imposing his Judgement on them anytime they were errant - they behaved like their pagan neighbors .

What was the crime or offence of the Caannaties according to the bible? Can you please show us the crime of the Caannaties.

noillebnoj:
don't mind NL apologists
Just saying nonsense
When god found out the Israelites were worshipping a golden calf he wanted to
destroy them completely but noses pleaded and he changed his mind
He also asked Adam if he ate the fruit and why he was hiding from him
This is a supposed all knowing being huh
These dudes ain't serious

The bible has God repenting and apologizing for the evil which he committed against the people.

naijadeyhia:
ScepticalPyrrho When you are truly ready for knowledge you can answer my question and fill in the blanks.

Dalaman This thread has a strict NO GOALPOST SHIFTING rule.

To the first guy mention me when you are ready to learn

Bank dey call me

The empty vessels make the loudest noise as always.

naijadeyhia:
Please focus on this thread. Goal shifting is something you a known for. You can open a thread to discuss her comment. Do not derail ebukas lovely thread.

You started the goal shifting.

Sinkills:
If indeed he is a liar, then he is not yet a Christian.

naijadeyhia:
I was waiting for when you would bring that up!

When you have nothing else to say you resort to ad hominems

FYI even your co atheist lepasaron has recanted her words....You are the only one known to rant LIAR LIAR everywhere on NL for no justifiable reason besides one you create in your head.

You have started again with your lies. It seems lies flow very easily from you. She did NOT recant her words. She only said she remember you post the pictures of your son on another thread and you also said you mum was from.Ukraine. Even at that she expressed skepticism because she said it's difficult to believe anything you said. Show.me where she recanted her words and said you are not a liar or that you have no allegations against you. Show me.

naijadeyhia:
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Nonsense! I already answered these earlier. You simply wish to argue blindly. All these your rehashed arguments day in day out even after they have been thoroughly trashed, binned, shredded and burnt.

Your answers as to an all knowing God repenting of his evil deeds as written inside the bible is WHAT? Where did you answer it?

felixomor:
U just posted somebody's opinion.

Need i say more.

Please post official facts.

The writeup contains official facts.

felixomor:
Brother,
We know them

The main purpose of the "genocide" brouhaha is to fuel the war against their Conscience.
Nothing more.

You think they really care about human life?

You are justifying the killing of human life including that of babies and you are still asking if others care about human life. . You are a joke.

naijadeyhia:
We know they dont care. Its a way of pacifying and justifying their sinful nature. They want to claim God is evil WHEN THEY DO NOT EVEN BELIEVE GOD EXISTS. This shows that deep down they know He exists but simply want to look for anything to use as a justfication for their wicked ways.

If they can prove to their conscience that God is wicked then they are fine.

Which wicked ways? Are you are better person than any atheist here? You that have been caught lying many many times on this board. Does your action here portray you as a better person than anybody here? Wicked ways indeed.

naijadeyhia:
Why do you find it hard to understand that emotions are part of God and it does not affect his being PERFECT.

An all knowing God would not be surprised at actions but would be sad at repercussions.

In the bible we have God being suprised at people's actions and also said by their acting as well. We have him changing his mind and even receiving advise from people like Moses to charge course and reconsider some actions. How s that supposed to be an all knowing God?

An all knowing God would know what the outcome of a thing would be but wouldnt interfere due to free will already given but would feel sorry nevertheless

Where is the free will of those who God hardened their hearts according to the bible? What about those who God claimed he created for destruction and needs no questioning? Where is their own free will? How can I program my team in a computer game to win a match with the right score and celebrate when they do? Something that I already know will happen.

An all knowing God and a perfect God is one who STANDS BY HIS WORD and in order to interfere had to AMEND THE OLD TESTAMENT IN CHRIST. I already explained this to you and you are still repeating the same arguments. Is this too hard to understand?

You are just regurgitating meaningless theology. How can a God that repents of his evil deeds be all knowing?

felixomor:
Kjv senior those 2 bible by centuries....

Please try again

KJV was translated from a Greek manuscripts that are younger than the ones those ones were translated from.

https://bible.org/article/why-i-do-not-think-king-james-bible-best-translation-available-today

felixomor:
I just laugh.
"God cannot have emotions"

Ride on, na u create God na.

Because as an all knowing being nothing is new to him. We as humans display emotuons because we lack future knowledge most times. Imagine God feeling and acting suprised, feeling sorry and repenting of his evil deeds in the bible. How is that a God that is supposed to know all things?

felixomor:
Which bible versions acknowledged it?

The NLT and the NIV for example.

felixomor:
All what u said is emotions.
God has emotions.
Emotions are not dependent on fore knowledge

A mother knows her child would get married and even prays for the day to come.
But on that day, it doesn't stop her from showing emotions.

You see why i frown at your logic?

You have no logic and I mean it.


"A God who knows everything cannot have emotions. The Bible says that God experiences all of the emotions of humans, including anger, sadness, and happiness. We humans experience emotions as a result of new knowledge. A man who had formerly been ignorant of his wife’s infidelity will experience the emotions of anger and sadness only after he has learned what had previously been hidden. In contrast, the omniscient God is ignorant of nothing. Nothing is hidden from him, nothing new may be revealed to him, so there is no gained knowledge to which he may emotively react.

We humans experience anger and frustration when something is wrong which we cannot fix. The perfect, omnipotent God, however, can fix anything. Humans experience longing for things we lack. The perfect God lacks nothing. An omniscient, omnipotent, and perfect God who experiences emotion is impossible"


Culled from the evilbible.com

felixomor:
Jesus after resurrection said

"Go ye into the world"


Nezt!

Its a lie Jesus said no such thing. The Mark ending does not appear in the earliest and oldest manuscripts. It was a scribe that added it to the bible many many years later. Even some bible versions acknowledged that fact.

felixomor:
There is no where that states He did not know.
Unless u want to write ur own bible.

You have one type of local child logic.
You are the type that would say, because a father refused to buy a toy for his son, it automatically means he cannot afford it.

Its kind of daft.

He clearly isn't all knowing if we are to go by the bible. Read the bible you will see God displaying anger tantrums. Regretting, feeling sorry, repenting of his evil deeds, changing his mind etc. All these do not portray a God that is all knowing or has an idea of the future.