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Why are poor nations the most religious? Why do poor people cling to religion? The answer is obvious, when you are in pain you take painkillers! Poverty is pain, religion soothes poverty! The poor rely on religion for comfort. Across the planet and especially in Africa, the most impoverished people are often told their reward is in heaven and that they should be thankful for being alive. Thus, the poor embrace religion as a way to handle the plight they have no power to escape.

Apart from Buddhists, I’m not aware of anyone who is happy to be poor. That is why people want to pray away poverty. People only pray over the uncertainties in life. No one, except Nigerians, pray for things they have control over. No one prays to strike a match or to open one’s mouth. The more uncertainties one experiences in life, the more religious one becomes. It is also a fact that people with low Intelligence Quotient (IQ) have less understanding of reality, they face more uncertainties and have less control of their lives. This means the underclass are more religious than wealthy and intelligent people. As a consequence, the more the population of the underclass in a nation, the poorer the nation is, the more religious the nation is and the more it gets exploited by the clergy. When people are poor they lean on religion for comfort.

In a 2010 Gallup poll of 100 countries, the data showed a strong, positive correlation between strict adherence to religion and privation. In like manner, an independent study by Dr. Tom Rees, published in the Journal of Religion and Society, showed that in places without strong social safety nets to provide people with opportunities for upward mobility, they are more likely to be religious. When suffering becomes a constant in the lives of people, they are easily consoled by visions of the apocalypse, judgement, punishment and hell. Poverty, deprivation and suffering often leads to consolatory beliefs that the world will soon end, with God rewarding the faithful with everlasting joy where there is no want, no toil, no tribulation. The doom and gloom predictions of the rapture and the trials and tribulations that humanity will face, as found in Christian fundamentalism, is thus made popular. The scenario helps perpetuate suffering by attributing a higher purpose to human pain and suffering as part of God’s grand plan for absolution among His chosen.

The religionists may argue that religion does provide real assistance and a sense of security to the poor. That is true to a lesser extent, it does not solve the problems associated with poverty. What the religious houses give in assistance, they take back a thousand fold in tithes and offerings. Religion as a positive social influence in Nigeria is a decoy for much larger social problems that promotes poverty. One of the biggest problem in Nigeria is religion. Just how does the lowly working class focus on developing logical, realistic plans to escape the oppression of the powerful who promote religion to keep the poor content with their parlous state on earth? The truth is that the Nigerian ruling elite in collaboration with the clergy want everyone in perpetual bondage. They know, if the poor gets wise and stops waiting for the reward of the afterlife, they will start fighting for some of that reward right here, right now. They will stop worshiping their oppressors and start demanding their fair share. That is why a Senator will rather build Churches, and Mosques while governors will prefer to distribute rice, kerosene, vegetable oil and chicken than to build good and equipped schools or give scholarships to reputable institutions of learning.

In a country where good roads, electricity and healthcare facilities are taken to God in prayer, the link between religion and poverty is worth analysing more closely. Do Nigerians turn to religion due to despair, or do people fall into poverty as a result of their religious beliefs? This question is pertinent because seemingly intelligent, educated people in Nigeria believe they have no control over their lives because their living and dying has been preordained and it is all in God’s hands. For these people, life choices do not count. The only method of making major life decisions – where to school, where to live, who to marry is “to tell my pastor and pray over it.”

Religion in Nigeria has become a powerful open trap that exerts tremendous social pressure that is often impossible for the uneducated mind to avoid. In my interactions, I have seen educated people, who were normal in their homes, normal at work and everywhere outside of the Church, become complete fools once inside the Church. One cannot but wonder if the central problem comes from people turning their minds off once they walk through the door of a Church or Mosque. Their minds seem conditioned to do so since they were young. They swallow anything that is said as the truth. It is no longer what the Bible says but what my Pastor says and for the Muslims, every reference is according to this Sheikh and that Imam. To a first time visitor to Nigeria, it is easy to conclude that religion makes both educated and uneducated Nigerians mindless.

The result of our religiosity is not difficult to fathom. It has been a disaster for Nigeria in the rapidly changing world of the 21st century. All ramifications considered, the malfeasance of the Abrahamic faiths is staggering in its extent and its viciousness on our national psyche. The link between religion and poverty is easy; it is control. If you feel less in control of your life, you seek beliefs that help you feel greater control. Being poor and poorly educated, lacking power in the larger world and solid knowledge of the way things work, the natural fallback becomes a belief in miracles and magic. In Nigeria, magic and miracles comes in the neat package of religion. With the nation-space littered with Pastorpreneurs, who preach prosperity and nothing else, religion may be the only source of hope for a better life for a larger portion of our people.

The trick the Pastors and the rulers who patronise and encourage them know is that the greater your education (good education), the more you understand the world, and the more options you have for moving and succeeding in it. Education is the power you can see, it is the power you create that allows you to need less of miracles and magic. That is why they have ruined education collaboratively. That is why almost all the Churches and some Islamic sects and organisations have invested in education. They make it expensive, such that majority of their congregants can’t afford it and where they can, they shape the kind of education they give. They do this to ensure successful manipulation and enslavement of our people. That is why “touch not my anointed” is one of the most quoted verse in the Bible, in today’s Nigeria. It is the reason why the poor congregant will donate his entire January salary in his bid to sow by giving his first fruits (insane). That is why a person earning minimum wage is happy his Pastor has bought a second Gulf-stream jet while he barely could afford his transportation to Church.

Religion offers a sense of hope, and it helps keep the poor from total despair. It thwarts their drive to improve their lot and creates a social disincentive for progress. That is why people under stress are easier targets for evangelism. That is why the soul winning ministries have more success among the poor, and it is the reason they target people going through life-changing events such as illness, marriage, divorce, pregnancy, death in the family, etc. We ought to be wary of those who take advantage of us at our most vulnerable moments.

Without a shred of doubt, Nigerian churches have failed the poor. On the other hand, Islam is busy promoting intergenerational poverty through fatalism and fundamentalism. Religious centres have become profit oriented mega-companies. All hope is not lost. If the right investments in education are embarked upon, the situation will change. Nigeria will be a better place and the social benefits of religion will naturally take centre stage and be targeted further down the socioeconomic ladder, and delivered through education, community and charitable giving. For Nigeria’s renaissance, we must think less of hell and the annihilation of the human race. We must commit to making this life the best that it can possibly be, since it is the only life that any of us has. As urgent as we can, we must ensure that the basic needs of the majority of our people are met and that they have opportunities for security and advancement.

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KingEbukasBlog:
You have now switched from Hinduism to what the Mayans believe . winner01 come see ooo . He now wants me to prove how Mayans are wrong . You keep running circles aimlessly .

I am just trying to show you that there are many different God ideas and yours is just one of them. There are many different Gods and religions because they are all a creation of men. That is my point.If the white people had not invaded your lands and fed your ancestors with their religion, the God idea of your ancestors would have been what you will believe in. All Gods are the same, they are a creation of men and remain man made ideas that is why you are here defending and speaking for a God that can do all things and wants people to know him, because that God exist only in your head and imaginations.

KingEbukasBlog:
Its called mystical not mythical . And its 2.4 million actually and its 4-5 billion that believe God is a supreme being (Christian and Islam) . 5/7 that 71 percent . The atheists are less than 15 percent ... lmao . The number will keep reducing recent studies have shown . If you should ask me why then ...

I keep repeating the truth has nothing to do with numbers, Muslims believe you will end up in hell because you subscribe to the idea that God has a son a deed that angers Allah more than any other thing on earth, it is called Shirk and in Islam it is the worst of all sin. There are 2,2 billion Christians in the world, all statistics point to that not 2.4 billion, stop lying for Jesus. 2.2 billion christians and 1.8 billion muslims make up 4 billion not 5 billion, again stop inflating figures, I really do not care about the numbers since you all are confused. Even within christianity the majority sect is the catholic sect which numbers about 1.1 or 1.2 billion. According to them most other sects are lost and misguided.

winner01:
By chance i hope you were raised with love and care, so you can catch a glimpse of what infinite mercy, love and grace means.
Or maybe you never experienced such. I hope the same way you rant here you do so in real life, i want to be 100% sure that no one will give you the audience to spit out your dung, not even your christian relatives.

What has this got to do with the fact that your God is imaginary and you are living the fantasies of those that created the God idea?

I understand you want to be relevant, but dont be stup1d in going about it. Apostle paul took his war against christianity to another level, he tried to reduce the number of "people who believe in mythical nonsense" by killing them, and God still chose to use him. Thats the extent of infinite love, mercy and grace.
Even if you have never experienced human mercy and love, you can learn it and then show it to your kids. Pain, hate and revenge will only kill you untimely and eternally. You dont have to respond to your calamities negatively, be still and know that He is God. He will reshapen your life for the better

Still appealing to emotions and using the stories of those that imagined and figured out the God idea you were indoctrinated with so spew more inanities. When you get tired you should just tell your God to ban me from nairaland so that you can rest.

KingEbukasBlog:
LOL ... the bible told creation as a story ... literal or figurative ? I dont actually care . But how does the bible's portrayal of creation preclude the existence of a creator ?

As usual you are running from the obvious. The whole bible tells most things as a story. You just keep using this elusive creator as your ignorance for what you do not know. The Mayans believe in many creator Gods, how are they wrong? Care to show me?

winner01:
"Billions of people were indoctrinated, God is a man-made idea" and you are so sure of this . Later you tell us you havent made any claim. I doubt your mental capability.

Im propagating its message to others on the religion section and not just to any part of the public. You are in the religion section either to constantly rid your conscience of the obvious, or to remain relevant, or you find it difficult to let go of your past, or it is the only way to fight your trauma. For whatever reason you are here, your hatred, pain, insecurity and negativities are clearly vivid in your obsession with the christian God.
Maybe i shoud be brain-dead like you and go into another mans compound to attack his opinions and beliefs (which i dont believe in) and then claim he is pained for replying me.

You'd better wake up, The public is not responsible for your woes and God isnt either. I suggest you pick up the pieces of your life and put them together.

That is what all of you say. The muslims have said same to me, they also say same to the christians that challenge their beliefs, it a defense mechanism all religious people use. Why you challenge their belief system they use emotional attacks against you because they are emotionally attached to their religion, so emotional appeal is the only thing they understand and use. Why don't you just tell your God to ban me from nairaland since I am wagging a war against him as you are insinuating. Is your God alive? Can he do all things as you are claiming? Ok, please pray to him and tell him to ban me for going against him so that you will rest. I wonder why you are pained so much. Just tell your God to ban me so that you will rest.

KingEbukasBlog:
close to 3 billion are adherents of this "confusing message" . You are really frustrated by your futile efforts to ridicule Christianity . You have no proof that the bible is mythical . No proof at all

So now it has come to inflating numbers? There are about 2.2 billion christians in the world, that is very far from 3 billion so please stop lying for Jesus, but that aside, it is not by number but by truth. There are over 7 billion people in the world which means that over about 70 percent of the world's population do not believe in your God idea. The bible is a book of myth and fiction that is why we have stories about people living inside a fish for 3 days, donkeys talking, people dying and coming back to life after being buried, unicorns and a whole lot of mythical and fictional thrash. It is so confusing that there are over thirty thousand sects all at logger heads with each other. The biggest sect in your religion which is the catholic sect considers you to be a lost Pentecostal unbeliever, I guess you also feel the same about them. There you have it. You guys are just confused about what this mythical and fictitious ideas of the ancient people that you keep dividing yourselves into different sects and keep interpreting what the originally wrote to suit your own ideas and opinions.

Anas09:
@dullardman.

What is this Analnas saying?

When you quoted Matt 10v22, I was hoping you will tell us why the world hate Christians and Jews today,

Which world hates christians and Jews? Do you know that christians have killed more Jews than any group of people? Even the muslims that hate the Jews as a religious duty have not killed as many Jews as the christians. Study your history please.

especially the Jews for no reason. Christians turn the other chick wen hit. One soldier can lead 20thousand Jews to a concentration Camp without any revolt. Look around you and see how many Christians are being killed all over the world just because they believe in Christ.

It was your fellow christians that put them in concentration camps and killed them, the christians burnt their books and persecuted them for many years because they refuse to accept Jesus and called him a liar and a false prophet. Because they kept calling Jesus a lair and a false who failed the test of Messiah-ship your christian bretheren felt the need to persecute them and silence them. Christians have no right to talk about Jews being prosecuted because Christians have killed and prosected Jews more than any religion can ever do.

Take Nairaland here for e.g
The Atheists are basically against Christianity.
The satanists have serious ish against Christians and Jews. (Go to Melins post and see).
The Muslims have a calling to rid the world of Christians and Jews.

Where you not the one that was threatening to beat up someone for asking questions about the christians doctrine on the other thread?

You, have Ulcers and anxiety crisis because you can't rid urself of the God of the Bible. Why you are so banged up against Christians/Jews and their God?

You quote from our book, which to you is fiction. And you are a byproduct of that fulfilled fiction. With all the efforts you put is trashing the Bible, if what it says is not getting fulfilled as we speak, I'd ve thrown it away since.

What is been fulfilled? The Koran also has the same buffer, I have seen many muslims also tell you that you guys are fulfilling what the Koran says you will do, they also throw the many verse from the Koran at you, all religions have these buffers to keep the mind of the believer in the bubble.

What I see in Matt 10:22 is a fulfilment of that scripture, but u see something else.

Stop havings fits and seizures over myths Nah.

You wish there's indeed no God, but sorry, even you, can't convince urself.

WOE (anguish, pain, troubles, sufferings) unto him who strives (fights, withstands oppossess) his maker..., shall the clay say to him that fashioned it, what makesth thou...? Isa 45:9
Let the cup of affliction and the cup of trembling not depart from ur hand, as a reward, for ur attack on ur maker.

So I attack my alleged maker and it is you that is so pained about it? Can't you see that you are your God that is why when I say something against this God of yours you feel pained so much that you were even threatening violence against another man for asking questions. You are deluded my friend.

winner01:
At least billions of people recognize the fact that "Something" supernatural created the earth. We can then start a discussion on which is real from there.
You on the other hand keep on exhibiting gross unintelligence, you choose ignorance as an excuse for not acknowledging the creator accompanied with extreme arrogance and obsession. You are on your own, keep your hate, sadness and pain to yourself and stop trying to infect the public.

Billions of people were indoctrinated to believe that something whom some other people before them imagined created the universe. Before the white men invaded your land and brought their version of God your ancestors also imagined their own God concepts, some were supernatural some weren't. Non of these imaginations, and fictitious God characters are real because all are man made ideas. That remains the fact, your Yahweh God is no more real than Zeus, Ra or Brahma. All are man made ideas.

I know that you are pained and sadden because you have to believe and accept the ideas and and imaginations of those that conquered and colonized your ancestors without proof. I know how painful it is to be claiming to be the mouth piece of an alleged all powerful God that can do all things and wants people to get to know him but totally relies on a failure like you to propagate its confusing message to others. I really know how painful it is because I was once there so please stop projecting you sadness and pains on me. Just deal with your delusions.

Richirich713:
U atheists are imaging if u think billions of people are going to accept ur so call proofs that God doesn't exist.

Billions of people will continue to laugh at your people attempts to prove that sumthing thats not eternal or intelligent can created a world like this.

But billions of people believe in different Gods and Goddess. Even in your own religion people have different ideas of what this God is. There are many different Gods and different religions because they are all man made.

KingEbukasBlog:
LOL . Dalaman mocks Christianity by showing the audacity to give his translation to some verses in the bible and is defiant and obdurate about how true his translations or explanations are and in this same thread does not agree with the explanation I gave about the creation story .

Why should you be the one explaining the supposed word of God that wants people to know him and how he created the universe through his alleged words? Doesn't the fact that you are explaining his word tell you that his word is what you chose to make of it? You saw things that clearly do not agree with the reality you see around you and sort to explain it away through dishonest means. Well done. Keep lying for Jesus.

Richirich713:
Why should I prove that God exists to someone else. I believe there's more than enough arguments that God exists. I use my brain, logic, maths, science, experience etc to determine if certain things are true. But that doesn't mean stuff which cannot be proven by maths and science is false.

You imaging things and you want your imaginations to be accepted by others as facts?

KingEbukasBlog:
LMAO .. please read the post again and relate reasonably . You sound desperate

The text is already there, it is in simple English. The sun , moon and stars were created on the fourth day of creation and put in a vault to give light to the earth, that is what the text says, you are spinning it and lying because of the new knowledge we have acquired which show that the bible is wrong. many christians have been forced to abandon the genesis creation story and label it as an allegory because it does not match with observable evidence. Dishonest apologist like you try to spin it and tell people that what was written actually means something else, that is why christians interpret it differently, I have seen others that interpret it differently from you, all in a desperate attempt to make the ideas of ancient men who did not even know what the stars are match with reality. The creation account as written in the bible by the ancient hebrews says that the sun moon and stars were all created on the same day of creation, I will take their words over your dishonest and lying spin, when you write your own bible and creation account then i will look at it, until then they have written what they thought and believed and it is false.

Please be logical . If you can show how irrefutably a single cell could bring about 8.7 million species on earth - billions of life forms - then I'm the delusional one

I have never made any claim about a single cell being responsible for 8.7 million species, but if you can explain to me the mechanism used and how some elusive and imaginary God spoke the animals and plant into existence using the Hebrew language then I will agree that I am the delusional one.

Why does man have a bigger better brain than all animals ?

I don't know.

Lemme pick one : Creation . If you can show me that God didn't do it , then I'm the delusional one

Which God? Your God is a man made idea of the ancient hebrews, he only acts and does things in the pages of story books written about him by them not in reality.

KingEbukasBlog:
You can mathematically prove that 23456 x 261514 is not 25 . Because 25 is a square - this implies that only 5 and 5 will give 25 as their product . But can you prove that life has no creator ?

There are only two sides - there is no creator and there is a creator . The probability is 0.5 either way - a creator or no creator . But if you insist that there is no creator then the probability is 1 and the certainty there is a creator is 0

Therefore its illogical to say you don't know but you are sure the probability is 0 when you've not proven that the probability that there is a creator is actually 0 .

Good. The question is you do not know if the universe was created by a single entity or many entities, you just happen to be indoctrinated with the version of a creator which the ancient Hebrews imagine, a creator whom they said crated the sun before the earth, you refuse to accept their creation account as they have stated, you instead decided to modify it. The universe as we know it did not come about as God said he created it inside the bible. If the bible gets the creation of the universe wrong then it;s God did not create the universe simple.

winner01:
But your conversations on this section continually shows how sure you are on the origin of life. You sound so sure that life came from non life on its own for no reason.
You continue to zero the probability of a Creator, that seems like you know how life didnt happen, i think its only logical to ask you for proof of this sure knowledge of yours.

Cam you show where I have ever stated that am sure that life came from no life for no reason? I have never made any position with regards to the origin of life because I do not know. You claim that life must have come from one single source alone and I have asked you to provide the evidence for that. How do you know that only a single entity created the universe as opposed to many entities? Where is your evidence that everything was created by a single entity that speaks the Hebrew language and likes the small of burn cattle?

What if I say that the Hindu Gods and Goddesses created the universe, can you prove to me with evidence that they it;s ownly your version of God idea that did it and not theirs? Where is the evidence for your claims?

KingEbukasBlog:
@dalaman ... large local communities even in Nigeria trace their origin to a single man and these communities are named after him . 6, 000 years is enough to populate the earth

I want scientific evidence not mere baseless assertions. Large local communities in India trace their origins from a man that descended from planet Neberu. Just bring the scientific evidence that shows that it is possible for all humans on earth to have descended from one man and one woman.

KingEbukasBlog:
You don't know then shut the fukk up

Thanks

I might not know what 23456 x 261514 is, but I know it can never be 25. I don't know how life came about but the mythical and creation account which is nothing but trash that was written in the bible is not how the world or the universe we live in came about.

KingEbukasBlog:
Please discard these sort of ludicrous misconceptions . Breathe fresh air >>> https://www.nairaland.com/2305535/dealing-misconceptions-10-things-bible

You are a joke, the genesis creation myth does not even make sense to you as written in the bible so you decided to give it your own spin just so that you can keep embracing the mythology.

This is what you said

"4.The sun , moon and stars were created on day 4

No no no they weren't .They were created in the beginning before the existence of earth . God just regulated them in connection with the restored earth "

But here is what the bible says.

16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

It is very clear from the bible that God created the sun, moon and stars on the 4th day of creation. The writer of the bible who doesn't really know anything about how the universe operates went ahead to say that God created the sun, moon and stars and put them in a vault to give light on the earth. The writer of genesis knows nothing about the sun, moon, stars and how they were formed. The bible is clear on the matter, your dishonest spin remains a futile attempt at correcting the obvious even if it means you telling lies.

LMAOOOOOO .... and 8.7 million species on earth supposedly came from a single cell

Can you explain to me how all the people on earth came from only one man and one woman? Explain to me how it is scientifically possible please.

Simple . God's ability to create was passed to man . So since man's intelligence isn't God-given , why the disparity between man's intellect and animals' ?

Man has a a bigger better brain that all animals. Can you describe this God's ability in full? Can you show us this God's ability in action or will you keep making baseless and blind assertions? I want evidence not baseless comments.

2 Tim 3:6 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Translation - Bible proves bible. You can't argue with that.

KingEbukasBlog:
Lmao ... lwkmd

Nwanne ... lets play a game ... show me how life came from the non living on its own will without the aid of the supernatural . If you can evidently show that life came from the non living without the supernatural then I'm the delusional one

Its simple as ABC

I don't know how life came about and neither do you that is why you can not provide any evidence for it apart from baseless claims and appeal to the unknown. I have never made any claims about knowing how life came about it one way or the other. You just happen to believe in what some people thought about and stated without any evidence, ideas that have been shown to be false , you are just living their own fantasies.

Anas09:
I feel like cutting a cane and flogging ur small pikin Yansh. Now now now.
What do u want to be convinced abt, when u started ur rambblings with insults on the Only Potentate? On he who rules in the army of heaven and among the inhabitants of the Earth, and no man can say to Him what doest thou. On he who sits in the circle of the Earth and the inhabitants thereof are like grasshoppers before Him. Him who takes the whole world in the palm of his hands like a drop of water. He who dwells in the Wings of the wind. He who sets up Kingdoms and overthrows empires. He who rules in the affairs of the Kingdom of men.
Who are thou O little Child to opens ur mouth to Blaspheme my God? The ancient of Days, the Rock in ages passed.
Woe(Curse, anguish and sufferin) unto him who strive (fights, argue,withstands) his maker!... Shall the clay say to him that fashioned it, what makest thou...? Isa45:9. how dare u?

If u have a question, you ask it nicely, and will have people answer u. U may choose to believe or not to believe.
I really feel like beating u up right now.

Why will you want to beat him? You guys are all the same, violent and deluded just like the God idea you worship.

KingEbukasBlog:
I've always insisted that life could only come from forth from the non-living only through the aid of the supernatural . Another day you'll still repeat this same comment

You have always been insisting that some mythical idea and fantasy of some ancient Jewish men must be true. Show me any supernatural force bringing forth life from non life. Just provide that evidence already. Even the myth you were indoctrinated with says the God idea they imagined created man from sand which is non living.

KingEbukasBlog:
Isn't it fascinating that "primitive minds" could come up with such preemptive ingenuity perpetuating its relevance even in our present (modern ) time .

Evolutionists aint happy with this fact

Which fact are you talking about? That some mythical idea they imagine created the earth before creating the sun and the stars, the one that says some mythical God idea that used words of Hebrew to create things or the one that says all humans came from one man and one woman? Evolution despite its many limitation is the corner stone of science, drugs that help mankind are manufactured using it's principles, what drug or scientific principle has the God idea created by the primitive Jewish men has been able to help manufacture?

KingEbukasBlog:
Facts ? Which one? that life came from the non living or that it evolved from a single cell .

Can you share what you are smoking ?

You believe human life was created by an elusive God from sand which is also a non living thing but you somehow feel you are in a better position to mock people who also believe the same trash as you do.

Richirich713:
I just love hw atheist think science is truth and if sumthing cannot be proven by science it must be false.

Nd I love it wen they play their "I don't no" card when sum1 asks them wer the world came from.

They always play that card after they made a fool of themselves trying to explain how nothing created everything.

Do you know where the earth came from? Can you objectively prove your assertion. How do you objectively determine things to be true?

KingEbukasBlog:
^^^ dear children , this is a good example of trying to be wise in one's foolishness

Proverbs 3:7

7 Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord and shun evil.

Romans 1:22

22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools


Nigga just gave his own puerile translation

Mtcheww ... grow up joor

The bible will always protect itself against sound logic and reasoning, this exactly is what you are doing here my friend. Your belief system is seen as a unified whole, such that to questioning any part of it is seen as a threat to the whole system as such it offers you some platitudes as buffer so that you can keep wallowing in its bubble.

I just like how Christians think their opinion (belief) is evidence that everything in the bible is true.

krusdamax:
[NIV] Psalms 146:6 He is the Maker of heaven and earth, the sea, and everything in them— he remains faithful forever.

This remains the claim and assertion of the psalmist.

krusdamax:
@OP Your words against God's. Hmm. My hand no dey ooo. Revelation 22:18-19

Which God?

Saw this in another place and am sharing.

Here are some examples and tactics that the Bible uses to protect itself against logic and constructive criticism.

Matthew 10:22 - And all nations will hate you because you are my followers. But everyone who endures to the end will be saved.

Translation - When people think you're offending them, or if people question your beliefs or general morality and sense of moral superiority, or your right to stick you nose in their business, or why you feel your opinion or point of view should be better than theirs: Good job, you're doing it right. If you find that nobody outside your small circle of believers likes you, keep up the good work and hold fast to your delusions. If anyone tries to convince you with logic and sound arguments that you're wrong, DON'T LISTEN! Endure until the end.

John 20:29 - Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

Translation - Poor doubting Thomas. You used a healthy skeptical mind and deductive reasoning to try to avoid being scammed. Shame on you. Blessed are those who believe stuff without any proof, even if it doesn't make any sense to you, just keep believing. If you believe really hard, that's a good quality. The less proof there is, the more you should do mental gymnastics to believe.

Deuteronomy 6:16 says
"You shall not put the LORD your God to the test, as you tested Him at Massah"

Also referred to by Jesus when he's rappin' with Satan in both Matthew 4:7 and Luke 4:12

Translation - So, when you are being ask for any type of objective proof/evidence of the claims and assertions you make, the pat answer is "nope, don't test God cos he said not to. So, sorry, no proof."

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished” (Matthew 5:17-18).

Translation - Fulfill the law, but not abolish it, seems to mean."Take the stuff that you like from the Old Testament, and keep it. Take the stuff that you don't like from the Old Testament, and say it's been fulfilled and throw it out as no longer applicable."

Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Translation- If you don't believe what I believe then you are a fool. It's literally a recipe to call anyone arguing with you a fool, without winning the argument, and just walk away.

Matthew 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Translation- Don't worry if you don't get it, whatever 'it' is, you'll get into heaven anyway. The bible is always right and true, even when it says things that are clearly not right and obviously not true. If anything in the bible does not match up to reality, you simply grab the "spiritual" get out of jail free card.

I got this from another place but will share it here.

Here are a list and examples of tactics that the Bible employs to protect itself against logic and constructive criticism.

Matthew 10:22 - And all nations will hate you because you are my followers. But everyone who endures to the end will be saved.

Translation - When people think you're offending them with your spurious claims, or if people question your beliefs or general morality, or your right to stick you nose in their business when it is non of yours, or when people question your sense of feeling of moral superiority, good job, you're doing it right. If you find that nobody outside your small circle of believers likes you because of your obnoxious ways, keep up the good work and hold fast to your delusions. If anyone tries to convince you with logic and sound arguments that you're wrong or saying things that don't agree with reality, DON'T LISTEN! Endure until the end.

John 20:29 - Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

Translation - Poor doubting Thomas. You used a healthy skeptical mind and deductive reasoning to try to avoid being scammed. Shame on you. Blessed are those who believe stuff without any proof. If you believe really hard, that's a good quality. You don't need any evidence or proof , just believe and keep repeating what you believe without any evidence. The less proof there is, the more you should do mental gymnastics to believe and stick to it.

Deuteronomy 6:16 says
"You shall not put the LORD your God to the test, as you tested Him at Massah"

Also referred to by Jesus when he's rappin' with Satan in both Matthew 4:7 and Luke 4:12

Translation - When you are being asked for any type of objective proof/evidence for the endless claims you make all the time, the pat answer is "nope, don't test God, cause he said not to. So, sorry, no proof."

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished” (Matthew 5:17-18).

Translation - Fulfill the law, but not abolish it, seems to mean."Take the stuff that you like from the Old Testament, and keep it. Take the stuff that you don't like from the Old Testament, and say it's been fulfilled and throw it out as no longer applicable."

Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Translation - If you don't believe what I believe then you are a fool. It's literally a recipe to call anyone arguing with you a fool, without winning the argument, and just walk away.

2 Tim 3:6 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Translation - Bible proves bible. You can't argue with that.

Matthew 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Translation- Don't worry if you don't get it, whatever 'it' is, you'll get into heaven anyway. The bible is always right and true, even when it says things that are clearly not right and obviously not true. If anything in the bible does not match up to reality, you simply grab the "spiritual" get out of jail free card.

malvisguy212:
actually the children God refers to in this verse are the ones who hate God and love evil.

Where does it say so? You are just making things up and.lying. It only says that God punishes the children to the fourth and fifth generation for the sins of their parents. Doesn't mention anything about the kids that hate God and do evil. That part os your own addition because the entire thing doesn't make any sense to you.