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Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 2:41pm On Jan 11, 2021
No procedure is done without an informed consent from the patient. Did you read the part where I mentioned patients get excited when you tell them about root canal treatment?
professore:
Number one which is cost is to me invalid. You goahead to first tell the patient that their tooth can be repaired and let them decide if they can afford it or not rather than just telling them the tooth shoud be removed.
Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 8:31pm On Jan 10, 2021
ROot canal treatment will remove the pains and you will still have your tooth in your mouth .


callmehydee:


Please how much does it cost to remove a tooth in Lagos. Am in so much pains
Travel / Re: U.S Visit: Port Of Entry Interview/stories. by Damian457: 7:48pm On Jan 10, 2021
Lies. Where did you hear that from
Nikirurussia:
I heard that if you going to USA just for tourist, they are sending people back.
Unless if you throughly have gunie reason to visit family members that needs you. Maybe for child birth or something like that.

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Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 7:17pm On Jan 10, 2021
No Dentist will do extraction without your consent. Secondly the tooth may have been beyond redemption hence extraction was the only treatment option.
Be careful with the law suit before it goes the other way.




Royruky:


My concern:

They should inform the patient that there is an alternative to the tooth extraction.

I have extracted about 2 teeth but the dentist just went about the procedure as if there is no alternative.

Too bad. I may consider legal action against the dentist
Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 1:53pm On Jan 10, 2021
You don’t know what you are saying
biggy26:

Not completely true, as it depends on the doctor you see. The doctor I met in a govt hospital, advised against extraction for cosmetic reasons, and I agree, even though it's more expensive.

In terms of cost, private hospitals aren't necessarily more expensive than govt. Hospitals; I speak from experience when it comes to dental care. Infact, if I had known, I would have gone to a private hospital, cos it was way cheaper and more professional.

For crowning, it isn't compulsory if they do a good job on you.
It's actually expensive too.
Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 1:38pm On Jan 10, 2021
Yes you can.
Sixfeetbelle:


Okay. Thanks.

I do have to get this done at a General hospital, right?
Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 1:37pm On Jan 10, 2021
Veneers are more conservative but The decision is also affected by other clinical findings and history


Starberg:



Please which one is more preferable between Veneer and Crown. Thanks, cos I am considering doing it for my disfigured tooth.
Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 1:36pm On Jan 10, 2021
It depends. Government hospital or Private.
Private will give you the best quality of care.

wiseone28:
How much to extract one shaky front tooth and replace it with a fixed one.

How advisable too.
Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 1:34pm On Jan 10, 2021
The only way to know the extent of the disease process is to take a detailed medical history, do clinical examination and take a radiograph.

History+ Clinical examination and Radiographs will decide.

Sixfeetbelle:


How do I know if my teeth needs removal or RCT? Currently, I feel no pain, at least one that I can identify at the moment, but I suppose feeling pain in my teeth means it's already that bad. So, how do I notice it before it gets bad?
Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 12:48pm On Jan 10, 2021
The clinical prowess of Nigerian Dentists is never in doubt as they contribute a significant number of Dentists in NHS and UAE
AreaFada2:
While Op is partly right, many 9ja dentists go for extraction only too readily. Dentists recommended extraction for a teenager, a relative. Despite my insistence that money was no object.

In contrast to what some posters are saying on this thread that the dentists are poorly trained, the dentist who eventually did the extraction had his post grad education in Western Europe.

I was appalled by the poor equipment they had. Extracting teeth of a 20 years old person is really not great.
Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 12:45pm On Jan 10, 2021
Did you read the number two reason?
A tooth that is grossly compromised with abscess and puss and systemic manifestations of fever and lymph node enlargement is not a candidate for RCT even if you can afford X20 of the cost
AreaFada2:
While Op is partly right, many 9ja dentists go for extraction only too readily. Dentists recommended extraction for a teenager, a relative. Despite my insistence that money was no object.

In contrast to what some posters are saying on this thread that the dentists are poorly trained, the dentist who eventually did the extraction had his post grad education in Western Europe.

I was appalled by the poor equipment they had. Extracting teeth of a 20 years old person is really not great.
Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 12:41pm On Jan 10, 2021
Lol...What are you saying? You are comparing Nigeria to UK? Do you know the meaning of NHS? Google the price of RCT in a private dental clinic in Uk and come back for more schooling. Where in Nigeria will you do RCT for 20K? Oh yes i know, Mama Agness Dental Clinic. All best seeking treatment there

toprealman:
Oga you have blown things out of proportion here.
It will cost you £25-£25 to get a root canal done in the UK.
In Nigeria, with less than 20K you get it fixed in a private setting. It will cost less than 15K to do the procedure in a government hospital.
Maintaining a good oral hygiene is not as expensive as you have made it sound.
Poverty is a thing of the mind, let's create the awareness that an average Nigerian can still enjoy good dental hygiene. It is not a luxury.

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Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 11:55am On Jan 10, 2021
You’re the person that needs to be schooled on the title of the thread. The thread is a Counter thread and I annotated (REsmiley


Sterope:
I won't buy dental treatment on the roadside. If I have a dental issue, I would go to a teaching hospital or a proper Dental clinic.

A dentist created a thread of why Dentists offer Extraction based on some assumptions except for that last reason, though. Did you read this thread, including the title? If I visited a Dentist, I would expect to know options including the pros and cons, whether he can offer that service?

I don't want him to 'Always Suggest Extraction' because that is what most of his clients would go for.


Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 11:43am On Jan 10, 2021
Lol...I deliberately didn’t want to reply the post before. What was removed from the tooth was the pulp tissues not worm.The Pulp tissue is the life of the tooth connected to the blood stream. There is no worm in the tooth.
Can you see how my number 2 reason makes sense now? When such patients come with complications tomorrow and the number two reason apply to him/her, they will start saying Nigerian Dentist like extractions.

nedekid:

How is that possible? Did the worms come from his throat? Abi where will worm hide in cavity in a humans tooth? Since you say it happened in Abuja, is your friend aboki that leave their mouths open for flies to lay eggs?
Please dentist here kindly make sense of this guys gist for me.
Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 11:38am On Jan 10, 2021
Did you read my write up? Extraction cost 4-7k while RCT cost 50-110k. Which will the Dentist make more from if we decide to look at it from your angle?
BoboNogoDie:
Because most don't know anything.

Because that's what they were taught in school

Because it's the easiest thing to do

Because they are lazy

Because they can make quick cash by the procedure.

THAT'S ALL.
Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 11:32am On Jan 10, 2021
Are you sure you visited a Dentist or you visited an auxiliary dental professional?
Sterope:
Do you actually believe all Dentists are ethical?



Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 11:28am On Jan 10, 2021
What are you saying? Did you read my post? No Dentist will do a procedure without the INFORMED CONSENT of the patient.
Your Dentist must have suggested RCT as part of the treatment options but because you don’t have the money, you will always go for the cheaper option

Sterope:
That is not my experience and my family's experience of the Nigerian health care system.

From your article, there was no mention of offering that choice. What I see is how you assumed that because they can't afford one option, you offer the other one automatically.

You are part of the system. You can attack me all you like and delude yourself otherwise. It won't change my experience or others'. That was exactly what yesterday's thread showed.

Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 7:16am On Jan 10, 2021
You’re welcome boss
dawnomike:
Wow! This is a professional in the field... Nice explanation. I agree with you.

Your second point is a major factor...

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Health / Re: Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 2:48am On Jan 10, 2021
You’re welcome boss
1Alex:
Thanks for explaining
Health / Re: Why Do Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction? by Damian457: 2:16am On Jan 10, 2021
Health / Why Nigerian Dentists Always Suggest Extraction by Damian457: 2:00am On Jan 10, 2021
Good morning, This is a counter thread to this topic:

https://www.nairaland.com/6354106/why-nigerian-dentists-always-suggest

There are basically 3 reasons why Nigerian Dentists will rather do extraction than a root canal treatment and they include;

1. Cost: The average cost of an anterior teeth root canal is 22k + 35k for crowning and 28k + 35k for posterior teeth in a GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL, Private clinics should be x2 or x3 of the quoted price. For those that don’t know the meaning of crowning it’s a procedure to reenforce the tooth structure after a root canal procedure.
So the question is how many persons can afford to part with over 57k to treat only one tooth when the minimum wage is 33k?? No Government Health Insurance for citizens, The so called NHIS is in shambles, the last time I checked some HMOs in NHIS don’t cover RCT. Payment for Dental care is out of pocket.
Sometimes when you tell patients about the whole root canal procedure they are excited till it gets to money part, some will even be like 57k for just one tooth? Please just remove it.


2. Deteriorated Condition: The first source of help for Nigerian Dental Patients anytime they feel pain is the “Chemist” , some even go to extent of getting dental formulas, powders and concoctions (Mama Agness Dental Formula) to alleviate their pain. Pain is a symptom not a pathology, when you apply those formulas and concoction, the pain may subside but the disease process will continue. Sometimes patient delay in seeking treatment and when they eventually come the tooth is already grossly compromised and are even Retained Roots.


3. Availability of Equipments: We all know healthcare is not a priority in Nigeria. Our hospitals are in shambles and in bad conditions. I will say this without any apology, the only way to get quality medical treatment in Nigeria is via private hospitals if you can afford their fees. Government hospitals are Jokes.
How many governments hospitals have OPG machines? Digital Xray machines or Even functioning dental chairs? How many Nigerians can afford to pay 90-114k per tooth in a Private Clinic to get quality dental care?

The question should be directed to the Government who have kept the citizens in perpetual poverty, with no health care insurance and has made it impossible for them to afford basic life needs.

Let me know If you think otherwise.

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Travel / Re: Which European Country Can I Travel To With 3m? by Damian457: 5:34pm On Jan 08, 2021
Mumu man
Viknat:
So u fit huzzle 3m and u want use am run to abroad instead u go enter wholesale business . Take am
Health / Re: We Will Impose Fresh Nationwide Lockdown If COVID-19 Cases Continue To Rise- PTF by Damian457: 5:13pm On Jan 08, 2021
Big Animals.......Thats the only way to describe them
Joseph08:
Animals!

So why bringing up the issue of NIN during second phase of Covid-19

Fvcking shithole Corntree!

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Health / Re: We Will Impose Fresh Nationwide Lockdown If COVID-19 Cases Continue To Rise- PTF by Damian457: 5:12pm On Jan 08, 2021
The samw Government that refused to share palliative they didn’t buy with their money you mean?
freemanq:
Imposing new lockdown is not the problem,The Government should be ready to feed Nigerians because that's there duty.our government should learn to take responsibility.
Travel / Re: U.S Visit: Port Of Entry Interview/stories. by Damian457: 7:46am On Jan 06, 2021
Thanks boss
flourishing247:


Yes!
Travel / Re: U.S Visit: Port Of Entry Interview/stories. by Damian457: 6:38pm On Jan 05, 2021
Asking for a friend.....Is a US B1/B2 visa still
valid 3 months before expiration??
Business / Re: Which Business Can I Start With $40k In The Current Day Nigeria? by Damian457: 12:41pm On Jan 03, 2021
Hi
Business / Re: Which Business Can I Start With $40k In The Current Day Nigeria? by Damian457: 7:14pm On Jan 02, 2021
The money is in usd.
bnanzip:
Just asking out of pride. You mean you have 19 million and you don't know how to invest it and you are asking those who don't have?
Is Nigeria even using dollars that you are asking what to invest dollars in?
Business / Which Business Can I Start With $40k In The Current Day Nigeria? by Damian457: 5:53pm On Jan 02, 2021
Any idea on a lucrative business to start with $40k(19million) naira?
Thanks
Family / Re: Adam Nuru Paternity Scandal: FCMB To Probe MD As Many Demand His Sack by Damian457: 4:28pm On Jan 02, 2021
Lool ..... Her likes plenty for social media under the umbrella of “ Actress”, “Entrepreneurs”
generationz:
The things people do in secret because of money, position and power. That woman now would have gone to seminars talking about "I started with one shoe" strong black hardworking woman, breaking the glass ceiling. grin grin

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Travel / Re: I Just Got A 3-Month Visa To Dubai, I Need Your Suggestions Please!!! by Damian457: 5:14pm On Dec 28, 2020
I’m telling you..
This nairaland is so full of bad belles. They are the unfortunate Nigerians without any means of leaving Nigeria.
I was initially thinking of starting my own travel thread on my adventure in my dream country in 2021 but I’m seriously beginning to have a rethink.
I am starting no fuckkkking thread
@OP focus on your dubai hustle and PROSPER! You are going to succeed and God will make your helpers locate you in Jesus mighty name.


MiracleMe7:

You are a wicked man! Do u know the meaning of opportunist? So u want to use your monitoring mirror to destroy him and that is why u want him to be updating u in every step he makes in Dubai?
@Ebuka10box, pls stop dis your update on your stay in Dubai. Pls focused on what u are there for and u owes nobody any apology for not updating. Be careful witches and wizards full dis nairaland.
Stay in Dubai and PROSPER!

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