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otunba88:
I can imagine how the lady that her husband was snatched by tiwa will be feeling at the moment. Pasan ti a fi beat iyale....abeg finish am. Lol.
Karma is a bi*ch, everyone seems to forget that.

Exactly. it's her decision, so Who cares if he destroys her completely...

Ngoziada592:
I hate to do this, and I know you will kill me. But damnit, the truth must be spoken.
only reason why Tunji is doing this is because Tiwa cut him off. For once, he couldn’t get her to give him everything on a silver platter. He tried to intimidate her and for once it didn’t work so he resorted to emotional blackmail. He wanted to destroy her reputation, because he knows things about her that people don’t. Trust me, that is the truth. And it worked; everyone has fallen for it hook, line and sinker. However, Abe Lincoln said “You can fool most of the people most of the time and you can fool some people sometimes but you can’t fool all the people all the time.”
Tunji, those of us close to Tiwa
Those of us who see what you do to Tiwa
Those of us who, unlike you, truly care about Tiwa
WE ARE NOT FOOLED!! WE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT!!
I hesitated to say this because I didn’t want to be perceived as “insensitive”, “callous”, “evil”, even. But then I read all the bullshit people are writing and I knew I owed it to Tiwa to speak up.
Tiwa, we warned you, but you thought we were judging him. You see? You slave day and night to take care of him, his family and his children. And this is how he repays you; by wasting your money on other women, beating you into submission when you don’t and then when you stand up for yourself, he drags your name through the mud, Again, you commenters will kill me, but what yeye depression? Do you REALLY think if Banky W had accidentally pushed Tunji, Tunji wouldn’t have fought for his life? If no one had come, do you REALLY think Tunji would’ve jumped? Haba, Nigerians! WHY ARE YOU SO GULLIBLE?!
Those of us with eyes, we see very clearly. We see through his shenanigans. Unfortunately, Tiwa doesn’t. And she will back down. And it will go back to business as usual; him bullying her and her allowing it. The beatings will continue. The cheating will continue. The lies will continue.
Yesterday, Tiwa released a new song and a new video and got rave reviews. Why would a truly loving husband, a husband who supposedly puts her first, so selfishly chose a period when her career is doing so well to tarnish her image like this? If he was depressed (bullshit), why didn’t he quietly reach out to other people? Does a good husband beat his wife black and blue? Does a good husband defraud his wife? Does a good husband fool the world into believing despicable lies about his wife? Does a good husband go about looking for rich men to sleep with his wife?
MAY ALLAH REWARD US ALL ACCORDING TO OUR ACTIONS ON THIS EARTH

That is what a family friend of theirs wrote on Bella naija and I believe it . This guy just wanted to hurt Tiwa and didn't even care about hurting his own child

Got no sympathy for her at all, she's warned before marrying a divorced man. She should bear the consequences of her decision.. Love forebears after all.. Yeyeyeye

If eventually turns out that her husband's account was hacked, what would these people after her say afterwards.. Naija gat no chill at all. Nah dem life though..

Yet our government claims to be fighting corruption...

kayfra:
So you had uninterrupted power supply when GEJ engaged thugs.

Do you have a functioning brain?

Of course, I have a well functioning brain... No one is talking abt uninterrupted power supply, but we had limited damages to our pipe lines.. If you know what these oil coys here is SS are experiencing as of now, you will understand what am saying bro...

Trexnemesis:
It seems you don't know what you are talking about. Dumbo Jo did not face the problems this administration is facing now. His brothers did not vandalize gas lines. He did not bother to tackle the scam called oil subsidy because all of them were eating from it. Even to fight BH did not concern him, instead he supervised the stealing of the defense budget funds. And you expect a magician to fix the rot and effects of the chronic corruption Dumbo Jo left behind, all in few months!

No, GEJ took a step further by engaging these same set of guys to secure the pipe lines but Prof sagay advised the present administration to disengage these guys, that they can't engage thugs to secure the pipe lines and the result is what we're experiencing now.. It's not that bad for people to take him accountable for what he spewed when they were begging for votes, he knew the situation in the power sector before beaten his chest to convinced us that all would be fixed in just 6 months... I think we should less blame GEJ now, all he owes Nigerian now is to return out money, if he stole any...

tosinjay:
You're very much on point bro, these were what i was trying to make HE/SHE know but all HE/SHE would rather do is call it heresy or you who preach it an Antichrist. From HIS/HER very posts it seems the only sin is not letting the finished work of Christ prevail like we've ignored it in our message. He/She would try to nullify the Biblical passages you've given by his/her same passages like those are the only Scriptures in the bible.

There's a Scripture for HE/SHE from the apostles that better brings this to proper justice. In light of what i said earlier.

Works without faith is baseless but we must have faith and works, which by the most part the works are through the help of God while we work out our salvation with His fear and trembling.

James 2
10. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
14. What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
17. Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
22. Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
24. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
26. For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Can you see that this chapter and many others of the bible nullifies the wrong belief, faith and works go hand in hand. I gave extracts but they can read the full chapter.

S(he) is just confused, read but not able to understand. Have noticed some on here, they just pick on just a verse without reading the whole chapter for proper understanding, come on here to turn it upside down.. You even know from their utterances that they never understood what they read....

promise101:
YOU SOUND SOOOO FOLLISH BY THAT!

He shouldn't be concerned about whether he sins or not?

What a pretends!

You are afraid of being accused of you sinful nature, because, before God and man, you know you were not, you are not and never on this earth can you be sinless perfect. Yet, you use it to condemn people and accuse people, injecting fear in them, behaving like a pharisee and acting like moses.

And now you are saying that he shouldn't be concerned with that, but on my one as if my GOOD works of righteousness can take me to anywhere. If I rely on my right living to make heaven, I will only end up being accursed, and still not make heaven.

Friend, if you rely on your works of righteousness, you better bear in mind that you WILL NEVER make heaven but HELL, because your already accursed by that.


GALATIAN 3vs 10 in many versions.

"Anyone who tries to please God by obeying the Law(right living) is under a curse. The Scriptures say, “Everyone who doesn’t obey everything in the Law is under a curse.”(CEV)

"But people who depend on following the law(right living) to make them right are under a curse. As the Scriptures say, “They must do everything that is written in the law. If they do not always obey, they are under a curse.”(ERV)

"·But [L For] those who depend on following [L the works of] the law to make them right(right living) are under a curse, because the Scriptures say, “·Anyone [All; Everyone] will be cursed who does not ·always obey what [keep doing everything that] is written in
the Book of the Law [Deut:27:26].” (EXB)

"Everyone, however, who is involved in trying to keep the Law’s demands(right living) falls under a curse, for it is written: ‘Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the Law, to do them."(PHILLIPS)

"All those who expect the Law to save them(right living) from the punishment of sin will be punished. Because it is written, “Everyone who does not keep on doing all the things written in the Book of the Law will be punished.”(NLV)

"A curse is on all people who are trying to become good by obeying the law(right living). The holy writings say, `Everyone is cursed who does not always obey everything that is written in the book of the law and do it.'(WE)

So preaching /telling your congregation the simple truth, raw and pure word as JESUS, Paul, Peter, John, John the Baptist preached the word without mincing words is teamed as injection fear. That's pure gospel, when you hear the word of God, it either condemns you or examines and exalts you if you're still on the path... Don't be deceived by nobody can live a life without sin bro, the grace of God is there for those ready to strive to live a sinless life... It's up to you to believe it or not that is just the gospel....

promise101:
The foolishness exposed in this comment beats my imagination.

It would have been better, if Jesus had no concern over the sins of the pharisees that were about to stone the woman of adulterer to death?

Jesus would have allowed them to stone her while the pharisees are not even sinless perfect.

NO MAN IS SINLESS PERFECT EVEN KUMUYI, yet these people will keep on throwing stones and judgement on other people. While they are still guilty of the same sinless perfection. And without knowing that they are already ACCURSED for relying on their works of righteousness.


GALATIAN 3vs 10 in many versions.

"Anyone who tries to please God by obeying the Law (right living) is under a curse. The Scriptures say, “Everyone who doesn’t obey everything in the Law is under a curse.”(CEV)

"But people who depend on following the law(right
living) to make them right are under a curse. As the
Scriptures say, “They must do everything that is
written in the law. If they do not always obey, they
are under a curse.”(ERV)

"·But [L For] those who depend on following [L the
works of] the law to make them right(right living)
are under a curse, because the Scriptures say,
“·Anyone [All; Everyone] will be cursed who does
not ·always obey what [keep doing everything that]
is written in the Book of the Law [Deut:27:26].” (EXB)

"Everyone, however, who is involved in trying to
keep the Law’s demands(right living) falls under a
curse, for it is written: ‘Cursed is everyone who does
not continue in all things which are written in the
book of the Law, to do them."(PHILLIPS)

"All those who expect the Law to save them(right
living) from the punishment of sin will be punished.
Because it is written, “Everyone who does not keep
on doing all the things written in the Book of the
Law will be punished.”(NLV)

"A curse is on all people who are trying to become
good by obeying the law(right living). The holy
writings say, `Everyone is cursed who does not
always obey everything that is written in the book of the law and do it.'(WE)

I think you only know these words offhand, and seem not to understand what you are actually reading, if not you won't made that you first statement, forgetting Matthew 5 v 22... SIN!! What's your own definition of sin? This is my own definition 1 Corinthians 6:9, 10 ;Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:19 - 21; Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. So sir, what's so hard in all these to be abstain from? If your definition of sin is different from all these, do tell me pls... And what's so difficult in observing Paul's teaching of love and our duty towards our fellow brethren, submission to higher authority and so on.... The death of Christ on the cross gives urs GRACE to be able to observe all these, but with our "WORK".
Luke 13:24 STRIVE to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. Dictionary meaning of strive is to make effort.... Christ has done his own work on the cross, we too need to work(by obeying God's commandment) to compliment his work....
That's why I said you should pray for understanding before reading the scriptures, you can't work urself unto salvation, work without first believing that Christ is the son of God and that he died for our sins is useless... You believe first, repent, forsake, continue in the work of faith, when temptation comes the grace of God is there for us to overcome, watch and pray, abstain from appearance of evil, these are the works we should do after being justified...

tosinjay:
Abi oo, it's just better i let the issue be, and let him alone with His God. His own God which allows sin. Imagine the way the world is, calling the true Gospel heresy and calling one who preach it an Antichrist. No wonder the bible says when the Antichrist comes he'll deceive so many, not even a thing they know about godly precepts.

That's the sign of the last days.. Let her continue in her ways and keeps claiming finished work of CHRIST...

paxonel:
Don't get it twisted i do not justify sin.
I only use that Scripture to prove that by adamic nature or default, we all commit sin including pastor kumuyi.
Either by mistakes or deliberately, sin is sin

Romans 6 v 1-8...
Besides I don't think you should be concerned about whether he sins or not, you should be concerned about your own eternal destiny and not his bro. It is individual race..

tosinjay:
You're just the one contradicting the bible, picking one verse and only settling on it while there are other Scripture that further talks about ourselves with God. For what you're saying we're on same page, by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, this is my conviction. But you are the one then getting sermon about works pressed upon me when all i say is Biblical, not by works but in your term. Your fornication or lust would be overlooked by God when you're right in the act or haven't repented from it because of the finished work of Christ. You're making His work seem useless, His death was to make you perfect meaning you no more sin, but in your term, no matter how perversed you live God's fine with it because you believe His Son died for you.

I think she's been deceived by the preaching of eternal security, once saved, forever saved,

bokohaman:
All these Catholic priests aren't even sure of their salvation. One of the true test of one's salvation is to get locked up in a room with a stark naked woman and u still stood your ground without falling....

What! No one does that and retain the salvation.. When Bible says we must abstain from all appearances of evil..

collabo4me:
hmm. CBN is just finding ways of extortionate Nigerians. e. g mtn, now banks, sambo dasuki, stamp duty #50 for #1000 deposits



by june next year the government will come with this package that when u eat twice a day. U Wil pay for eating twice.

This mega budget must be funded either by extortion or which ever way bro...

Chaiiii! Man u still get hope oh.. But I no want this LVG for old garage next season oh..

udondeymadt:
It doesn't make sense that the "true" Creator God, who is loving, merciful, and forgiving, would want people who believe and worship Him to fear Him. The general definition of fear is "an unpleasant emotion caused by the belief that someone or something is dangerous, likely to cause pain, or a threat." How can the "true" Creator God want us to worship Him but fear Him at the same time? Why would the "true" Creator God want people to be threatened by hell fire to worship Him? Isn't that emotional blackmail? Why would the"true" Creator God want us to fear Him when He is not a monster? Only an inferior, evil, wicked, despotic, dictatorial, and power hungry god would want humans to be threatened to fear it. I don't think the idea of being a God fearing Christian is inspired by the "true" Creator God. That's the idea of man. Instead, the "true" Creator God would want us to be God loving, not God fearing.

Most Afrikan Christians who claim to be God fearing aren't really God fearing at all. They are actually hell fearing. They claim to be Christians but their actions tell another story about them. They are Christians not because they love God. They are Christians because they fear hell. They fear hell more than God.

Are you saying that if you give ur child set of instructions to go by and never does it, and you will be happy with him? No... You will rebuke him either by beating or talk to him in a harsh way for disobeying you, does that makes u a wicked father or a monster? Why would your child adhere to ur rules? The fear of the consequences of disobedience. Doesn't that mean you're bad? Do you expect this child to hate you despite the fact that he fears you? Why would you fear death when you don't fear what causes death... Why would anyone fears hell, without the fear of God... No sense in that...

Xbox222:
You are absolutely right. Most of their youths fear their parents and pastors more than God that is why majority of them deviate into worldliness once they are out of reach

At least their pastors keep telling and rebuking the act... All these life styles are also found in the Bible eg Samuel children, Aaron first two sons etc... Did that stop them from rebuking wrong doing among israelite? No... You heard their pastor talking to them directly to desist from sin, hence, hell fire and you folks come here hating on the church for telling them from turning away from what yourself observed or should I say the message scares you. You can only take horse to the river you can't force him to drink oh and that's the case of some of us that deviate from what we're preached to...

promise101:
Please, can you explain better?

I want to know your belief.

1st John 3 v 1 to 10 make ur point irrelevant sis, "believing on the FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST"! The main goal of God for allowing the Christ to died on the cross is for human race to be freed from sin.. So shocking to see a bible reader to have written that" not sinlessness will deem us fit for heaven". Sinlessness / holiness makes Christ to abide in us and I believe such fellow should be happy when reminded abt hell fire cus such messages stir believers up and more conscious of sin in their daily engagement and momentarily self examination...

paxonel:
But he is wrong by saying they will go to hell fire! Or else, why did Jesus came to die?
Do you know that there is nobody who do not commit sin, including kumuyi himself?
1John 1:8

Pray for wisdom and understanding before searching the scriptures and don't just read one verse to interpret a whole chapter in the Bible, you just jumped into that verse to justify the reason for you to keep sinning. Read this particular chapter from from the beginning to understand the verse you just jumped to.. As regards to hell, it's the Bible teaching and everything he says is from the Bible and if anyone doesn't believe in that, the fellow isn't a believer... As he always says, anyone who wouldn't like to hear and accept the truth can leave the church to a place (s) he will be comfortable with that would be preached there... Christ death doesn't automatically deems us fit for heaven, only those that are converted, sanctified, free from all forms of sins and continue serving God.....are deem fit for heaven. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: (but he that believeth not is condemned already,) because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God... Are you tell me that the Bible is wrong with that bracketed phrase too? So what's wrong with your pastor reminding you of that...

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EbukaLive:
With the OBSERVATIONS you have made about me without meeting me. I end this convo with you. If you can say such this about me. how can you objectively speak about the bill?

Sorry for framing it as if it's directed to you. That wasn't my intentions, it ought to had been a generalized sentence... Am so sorry.. As for the bill, I am only concerned about evangelism and nothing more... Sleep well bro...

Chaiiii,! Aunty kemi on the loose again...

EbukaLive:
Member since 1992 till date, don't argue what you don't know. You can't do away with the whole bill... you need to iron things out... There is a problem of terrorism and it is the place of the governor to address the issue... We cannot do away with the whole bill... impossible... sit with the governor and find alternatives... Not to ask for the whole bill to be struck out... And as a Christian sef... let us say El is the way you people claim he is and he is persecuting the church... is the way the bible says we should react to persecution... to wish death on our persecutors... to go against them, fight them, oppose them? Christians indeed...

You're forgetting something bro, being in the church for a long time doesn't really make you a member if you don't have same goal with them spiritually and that is what I know about deeperlife.... 1980s till date.... Back to topic, I never said the whole bill should be thrown out completely, I only pointed to restriction of evangelism and speaking up against what's not so proper doesn't mean a fight or opposition... He's not governing on animals, at least he should have contacted the necessary quarters before going about the whole thing bro.. Religion is a very delicate issue bro....

EbukaLive:
I am a Christian from Imo State attending Deeper Life Bible Church and RCCG and I support this bill... Even Jesus Christ and the apostles told us to beware of false prophets... Government regulates religion in most developed countries of the world... and lastly this bill will affect Muslims more than Christian. Just read the bill... PFN and CAN are fighting for their own pockets

You're a Deeper life indeed, so you're happy with the bill that restricts the most effective means of soul winning, not referring to mounting of loud speakers to disturb the peace of the community but the evangelism restrictions.. not all people coming to deeperlife to worship are members though... List of developed countries that restricted evangelism sir...

And FG is quick to combat the Niger / Delta guys with armed personnel.. Oil pipe lines are much of importance to FG than our well being.. Toor..

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hoping to meet one

rotimage:
The developed area with like 500k budget....

Thanks

You can't get that amount for developed areas bro, igesu/OLORUNSOLA area of ayobo is over a million per plot as of now..