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Cosplay:
Noted.

You don't seem to know a lot about the vehicle you're advertising, so I might as well help.

You're welcome, for the traffic.

Ubenedictus:
I believe the Christian thing to do is to pray for both

Mickey02:
sorry to say this but it's pointless exchanging and bargaining words with you. There's no doubt here that this ills don't exist but instead of trading blames and abusing the church's integrity and sanctity. let's pray earnestly for the growth of the church and against evil men and women rather than sitting down, making a devil out of ourselves. Pray for priests. For their growth in holiness, obedient to the magisterium and proclamation of the gospel. these are times where the priests of God need our prayers and devotions. Pls for God's sake let's uphold the teachings of the church

Aizenosa:
Oga oya we have watched the video what next?

Aizenosa:
Oga oya we have watched the video what next?

Ubenedictus:
I did avoid them because that isn't the aim of this thread.


as it is this banter has gone too long here.

Ubenedictus:
if I remember correctly I personally engaged you on your thread about abuse, I am not scared of discussing about pedophiles but this isn't the thread for it

Ubenedictus:
how can the thread be aimed at shielding pedophiles when that isn't even related to the threads objectives

Mickey02:
pls lets try as much as possible not to derail from the aim of this thread

EvilBrain1:
There was an early Christian bishop called Marcion of Sinope who was born around 85 A.D. about 50 years after the crucifixion supposedly took place. Back then, the basic Christian dogma and most of the beliefs we take for granted nowadays hadn't been defined yet. Most Christians back then didn't believe in the divinity of Christ, the new testament hadn't been compiled yet, and many of the books had probably not even been written.

Anyway, Marcion studied the old testament and noticed that the behavior of Yahweh, the god of Israel didn't really match the heavenly father that Jesus spoke of. Jesus's heavenly father seemed to be a kind, merciful god who wanted to save mankind and wasn't too concerned with enforcing strict laws. On the other hand, the god of the old testament was a despotic, cruel, mass-murdering dictator who didn't hesitate to punish or kill people for breaking the tiniest rules even if they did it with good intentions. The old testament god was also partial to the Jews and extremely mean to everyone else. Marcion also wondered how evil came into the world? If god was all good, why did he create the devil and allow him to mess up the world? How could a good tree produce bad fruit?

He eventually decided that the old testament god wasn't the same one as the heavenly father that Jesus prayed to. His theory was that even though Yahweh created the world he was at least partly evil and cruel. The heavenly father who is a more powerful god eventually took pity on mankind and decided to rescue us (including those being tortured in hell). He decided to send Jesus to save mankind, but Yahweh's supporters tried to stop this by killing him. Unfortunately, their plan backfired because Jesus's death was the price needed to ransom man from Yahweh's clutches. Note that Marcion didn't reject the old testament, he just said we should read it with the understanding that the god in it wasn't the same one Christians were now worshippping

Marcion's theory is interesting in that it solves the "problem of evil" quite neatly. Unfortunately, the early church leaders didn't take kindly to it and they soon kicked the guy out of the church and declared him a heretic. His later on formed his own parallel church which eventually grew large enough to become orthodox Christianity's major rival for more than 2 centuries. Marcionism only died out then the orthodox Christianity became Rome's state religion and they started harassing and killing those they called "heretics".

If emperor Constantine had chosen another religion, Christianity could have been completely different today.

[url]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcion_of_Sinope[/url]

olapitan3496:
^^ Sir, Thank you for your insight,however what I discern from it is that mockery of any man of God equals a violent death of any kind. This to me can not be right. Our God is a kind,compassionate and loving God. This passage in the Bible is completely contrary to these attributes of my God.