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LordReed:
The only word that comes to mind is, sickening.

Ubenedictus:
the Vatican archives are not custodian of atrocities, they are the place the church documents for over centuries are kept, the archives are sometimes opened for academic research, be informed.

the same pope puis who was lauded by the Jews in Rome for saving them and coordinated the church efforts to save millions of Jews including hiding them in the Vatican, or do you mean the pope who released the encyclical mite brenda sorge against Nazism.


you have your history backwards.

Ubenedictus:
this is a thread for Catholics to chat with each other, it is like a rest room for Catholics on nairaland, we don't banter here, as you may have noticed the issue of abuse was talked about even before u arrived.


filling the thread with abuse videos just won't do it especially as you already have a thread on abuse cases.



this is the aim of this thread


This Thread is for Catholics Nairaland and all interested to enjoy a
chat with one another. It is simply a place where
Catholics can meet with each other daily,
leave Bible verses of encouragement,
motivational talks, leave prayer
requests,offer prayers, provide a listening
ear to each other, provide comfort, care
for one another, talk about issues of
concern and interest, share knowledge,
provide love, spiritual and moral support and Also Post some Interesting Things About The Catholic church.
U can also Ask Any Question you have.


we are hardly ignorant of this cases, put them in the right thread.

Ubenedictus:
the Vatican does not twist or hide scriptures, that is untrue, neither the Vatican nor the pope supported the Nazi in their crimes in fact the Vatican was among the earliest authority to condemn Nazi crimes and issued an encyclical to that effect, the Vatican also saved countless Jews from the Holocaust, Joseph ratzinger was forceful conscripted into the army and he deserted when the war came. so your idea of support is untrue.


I stand by my comments, you can't purport to know someone's motives and reasons better than the person.

Ubenedictus:
dantedasz, this is a thread for Catholics, not your abuse thread.


if you have an issue you think Catholics can help you with say it, if your aim is to simply paste abuse videos then do that on your thread about abuse....

there are rules on nairaland against posting off topic, put the abuse videos in the abuse thread, this thread isn't for that.

Ubenedictus:
this your guy suddenly knows the reason for pope Benedict resignation better than Benedict himself abi?

Ubenedictus:
you are just throwing tantrums like a kid.

I asked you a question, would you like a similar treatment if you were accused of a crime, is it right that an accused person is presumed guilty even before trial, would you love such treatment.


there are no such thing as Catholics trying to tie up this case in endless litigation, in fact the church has done no such thing in this case, the accused was immediately reported to law enforcement and prevented from ministry, there was no foot dragging or time wasting or aimless litigation.

or are you one of those people who believe an accused person should not have his day in court, or you only throw away the presumption of innocence because you are biased against Catholics?

the Church handled the issue well and it shows your bias when you seem to accuse Catholics for doing the right thing in this case.

Ubenedictus:
the alleged victim has had her say, the court will determine the truthfulness of her allegation and punish accordingly.

the accused on the other hand has already been judged even before he is found guilty, he has already lost everything even before the trial began. justice demands that the accused is presumed innocent until proven otherwise by a court of competent jurisdiction.

the guy has lost his job, he has been evicted from his residence by the church, all priestly faculties has been withdrawn and he is banned from parish property. that is unjust, he has been profiled guilty until proven innocent.


if you were accused of a crime and hasn't been found guilty do you think it is just that you should be sacked(instead of suspension), driven from your home etc?


that is objectively unjust.

and if you can't see that maybe it is you who is sick.

Ubenedictus:
as far as I can see the diocese has handled this well even to the point of been unjust to the priest,

The priest
What about the freaking victim??
You Catholics make me sick!!

chiommy123:
Your atheism can NEVER stop God from existing and being worshipped by legion and multitude of angels and even human beings and the 24 elders in heaven who are always bowing before God and saying Worthy worthy is our lord God

Ubenedictus:
I go day care run by Catholic clergy, my brothers too and my sister, also my mum, my sister worked in a nursery school ran by Catholic clergy, and I in particular spent much of my childhood with Catholic priests, none abused me, none abused us, or anyone I know. I have no problem sending my kids to a day care run by Catholic priests. In fact that is the place they are least likely to be abused.


In fact statistics show that if 1000 people are abused in a year, 300 of them was by family members, father, mother or relations, 600 of them were abused by close associate liked teachers, nanny, family friends and acquittance, 100 by stranger. Among those abused by associate, teachers abused at least 100.

Clergy of whatever religion will statistically abuse 2% which is about 20 with the current strict policy In the Catholic church the likelihood goes very small.

So the least likely place for a child to be abused is a Catholic clergy, My kid is much safer with a priest than with a teacher or even a relative.


Even at that I am committed to helping my church be even more safer and abuse totally eradicated, abusers prosecuted.

westcole:
Yes they came in waiting for the King for almost an hour plus because the King was attending to some important issues. Eventually the King and his people came out to receive them you need to see how they were received at the palace but he spoil it with ego. as mighty as Obj his postrate to greet the Ooni but Sola refuse to do that instead question the King why they will have to delay them for 1hr before the King can see them. he was corrected to first bow and greet the King sturbon head no go gree and that was not too okay with the palace aid's so he was teargas when they were making noise even when the King was addressing them.
they come dey make noise that if they born the King he should enter OAU. can you imagine that? can they try such noises with Sultan of Sokoto?

luvmijeje:
There are billions of ways to access God. And my next thread will unveiled those ways.

iammo:
bible isn't a scam, laziness on the part of the readers and lack of research causes smart guys to use it as a tool to scam people. each chapter was written by different people with almost different knowledge of life and philosophy. like books written by mosses reflects his background as someone who grewup in an Egyptian household, and understand magic very well, books written by Mathew reflects his personality has a government tax collector and a runs guy. the first few chapters/books written in the bible was written 1000 years plus to when authors like peter wrote theirs