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I've seen a place.Jazakumullah khairan.

U see opinions have problems.I might qoute something now and you don't agree but nevertheless.Jesus came to fulfil the laws of the prophet.but according to you,you said what u said I guess u have a proof for it.When jesus came,A few of the pple were still practising what moses preached,and look it up with the jews of nowadays.When Muhammad(saw) came,some pple were still practising what jesus preached even till now.Some!!!.But Muhammad(saw) was sent to the whole of humanity,Allah asked him to have a speech with people who read the scripture.Not read the scripture.The first Arabic bible was written years after Muhammad(saw) had passed away.Allah never mentioned that the scripture was as it was revealed.The Qur'anic revelation came in parts,When these verses were revealed,matters needing it would have arisen.
75. Do you (faithful believers) covet that they will believe in your religion inspite of the fact that a party of them (Jewish rabbis) used to hear the Word of Allah (the Taurat (Torah)), then they used to change it knowingly after they understood it?

cleanvessel: There would not have been need for Jesus to come if the Torah was not practiced incorrectly. Jesus came to correct the errors of the past.

There was no need for Muhammad to raise the quran because, according to allah, there was the Scripture on ground that some people were practicing correctly. All that was needed at that time was for Muhammad to get the original copy and practice it as required instead of bringing the quran, which denies many things in the Scripture allah referred him to. Manipulation is quite visible somewhere.

6. Verily, those who disbelieve, it is the same to them whether you (O Muhammad Peace be upon him) warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe.

7. Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearings, (i.e. they are closed from accepting Allahs Guidance), and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be a great torment.

8. And of mankind, there are some (hypocrites) who say: "We believe in Allah and the Last Day" while in fact they believe not.

9. They (think to) deceive Allah and those who believe, while they only deceive themselves, and perceive (it) not!

10. In their hearts is a disease (of doubt and hypocrisy) and Allah has increased their disease. A painful torment is theirs because they used to tell lies.
Suratul Baqara.
When you qoute these things.Its because its ur opinion,so I don't blame or look at your opinion wrongly but when u want to judge other peoples opinion by yours.There's a problem.You've Qouted,we disagreed,We eplained,you disagree because of that verse I have qouted and it is Allah who guides and leaves to stray whomever He pleases.All this is to establish what is right and what isn't and in the end the big question arises Who is the 1 True God And that's Allah,Jesus and moses in aramaic/hebrew called him Allaha/Eloha..And the only way to get to him is to do His will and what is His will,believe in his prophets,and call in worship none other but Him,do good what He enjoinS as good,and stay away from what he forbids.But obviously.Almost all the world religion if not all,don't even do what they find in their scriptures.They are afraid it'll look Like Islam.So they take it in parts.

Just answer this please.Was it the word of God that jesus said the should sell their cloak to buy,and when a decsiple said we've seen two swords.does that also mean two word of God.Was it with the word of God that the Disciple of jesus cut the ear of the high priest?.John 18:10

cleanvessel: I stronly believe islam was an introduction of the Devil to bring trouble back to the world. True, the whole of the OT is full of war. There was no peace.

Jesus came to introduce peace by teaching that fighting and vengeance are sins. He went further to say that '' he who kills by the sword will die by the sword''.

By SWORD, Jesus meant get the word of God. The word of God is a spiritual sword. You need training in the Bible before you can get the meaning correctly.

Ephesian 6:17
And take the helmet of salvation, and the SWORD of the Spirit, which is the WORD of God.

Hebrews 4:12
For the WORD of God is quick and powerful and sharper than any two-edged SWORD, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

From the above it is clear SWORD Jesus talked about is not the islamic type. Besides, neither Jesus nor His Disciples made use of SWORD to fight any war. Peter who used it to cut somebody's ear in defending Jesus was stopped immediately.

Just answer this please.Was it the word of God that jesus said the should sell their cloak to buy,and when a decsiple said we've seen two swords.does that also mean two word of God.Was it with the word of God that the Disciple of jesus cut the ear of the high priest?.John 18:10

cleanvessel: I stronly believe islam was an introduction of the Devil to bring trouble back to the world. True, the whole of the OT is full of war. There was no peace.

Jesus came to introduce peace by teaching that fighting and vengeance are sins. He went further to say that '' he who kills by the sword will die by the sword''.

By SWORD, Jesus meant get the word of God. The word of God is a spiritual sword. You need training in the Bible before you can get the meaning correctly.

Ephesian 6:17
And take the helmet of salvation, and the SWORD of the Spirit, which is the WORD of God.

Hebrews 4:12
For the WORD of God is quick and powerful and sharper than any two-edged SWORD, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

From the above it is clear SWORD Jesus talked about is not the islamic type. Besides, neither Jesus nor His Disciples made use of SWORD to fight any war. Peter who used it to cut somebody's ear in defending Jesus was stopped immediately.

1.Everything is fair in love and war.When people define something to you,you be conscious of their definition.The Holy Prohet Muhammad(saw) fought many battles.And In battle,When a carravan is been attacked.It is to minimize casualties that 1 caravan can cause.Why do we have spies all over the world,to get information that could be of advantage to our country if there was a war.In this case,they got materials.Outside the times of war,Some group of Muslims attacked the caravan of 1 man,he came to the prophet and was answered by fatimah,By the order of the prophet,they were asked to return the man's caravan.Everybody had shared it,but it was whole again.This man was amazed and By Allah,He accepted Islam.
2.You do not Undestand Arabic,Obviously I don't so much either,but I'll explain from the little knowledge I have.Its THE-GOD(Al-illah)..Don't let some stupid websites put stuffs in ur head.Wallahi,they are on a manifest error,they have nothing agaisnt Islam,So they cook up stories.Have you even heard the one of odu-ifa,recently posted on here,and it had so much views from people who are maybe happy that lemme grab anoda thing to use against this muslims.Al-illah(The-God),if called together,the 'I' becomes silent 'Allah' wc cannot be subjected to plurality.
3.Before prophet Muhammad(saw),100s of Idols were put in the kaaba.They all knew it was a house of God built by abraham(check for bacca in ur bibles).The kaabah was emptied when the prophet returned to makah.It is a house of God,but since u don't read the bible and Its explanation.you wouldn't understand
4.No one has anything to do with the moon,the first mosque built by the prophet had no moon or star whatsoever,these are just designs incorparated by people and taken as weapon by those who have no evidence of their God.If this was imperative in our worship u'd find it in every mosque but it isn't and since our brothers across the faith are trying hard to make something out of it.Most mosques have removed it.We don't have time for this kinda stuff.Every religion but christianty,believe there is 1 true God,the uncreated creator.The difference is wether you truly know him or are you worshipping him in respect/how he wants.

All these things doesn't even make any sense,but we have to answer you.U can relate anything to anything.Shoul I start thinkinking of stupid things I can say Jesus was coined from,but what does it matter when I'm in my right frame of mind.Apart from the fact that jesus(as) was a prophet,he's oder than my lineage(alive).I implore you,If u want to know about a religion,seek its book.Read the Qur'an for Allah's torment is not 1 to escape from.
Then do you believe in a part of the Scripture and reject the rest? Then what is the recompense of those who do so among you, except disgrace in the life of this world, and on the Day of Resurrection they shall be consigned to the most grievous torment. And Allah is not unaware of what you do.

Why did God give Moses the scripture when he was still gonna give Jesus.All prophet before the were sent to the world but with 1 main objective and to mainly a particular set of people until Muhammad was sent for the whole of mankind.I didn't want to reply anymore because all you want to do is just keep arguing,even when u find truth,u'd still keep arguing still the truth brushes out of your mind.I hope u spend this much time on ur bible.Research the bible.Download a bible in hebrew,download word translator,and check the origin of each word.It is as hectic. As that because it is HELL we're talkin about here.And download different explanation or encylopaedia of the bible.Study really!!!...And fyi,God never set double standard,U did.All prophets came with the message:
Don't take into worship anyother God but the 1 true God,Follow Me and U shall see the light,Do this and u shall gain heaven.Obey me and God will be pleased with you.

Abu Dharr reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon
him) said: There is no believing servant who supplicates for
his brother behind his back (in his absence) that the Angels
do not say: The same be for you too.
 
Sahih Muslim
May Allah Reward you abundantly..and make you and I and all of the muslim Ummah continue to thread the path of iman and not of nifaq.Jazakumullah.

harmeenart: Hope u dont mind if I post it.
From anywhere in Akure,take a cab to oldgarage.If you are dropped on the lane of Akure City hall,cross to the other side of the road.Ask anyone where to get a bus/bike to high school.Drop at Joyland.Ask for direcrions to Alfurqan,or you could ask for daru-l sunnah.U can easily locate Al furqan from there cos they are on the same street.
May Allah ease ur task and grant u beneficial knowledge.
Amin

I agree...but u were talking about it.I hope you can answer me someday sha

cleanvessel: @ dareabiola98

Your questions have nothing to do with the subject of this thread. Thank you.

If u had posted the best way of performing ablution with refrence to sahih adith....You woukd have done a lot of people Good...But w/o even reading the whole of your speech,I knew u were criticizing other muslims and I stopped.Shia is not ur Identity,And Allah Command that "U shouldn't die lest u be a muslim" not a sunni/shia. U might be in a group,its good!!!...to gain knowledge and walk with the pious.But when u share informations to the whole of muslim and ur against some...wallahi..if u came here,posted the ablution,with evidence,even other people of other sect would look at it and say oh! This is manifest evidence but now..u've made people believe ur doind this as a shia and not a muslim.

Let us really start to learn how to address our fellow Muslims.Inshaalah,Ur post was useful and May Allah(swt) increase u in Iiman(amin).When u call some people they,or some people "we"..And u talk on and on and continue to segregate,it will do Islam no Good.What is our problem really,Did Allah mention Sunni,or Shia or whatever in the Qur'an...Soon we'll start forbiding a shia muslimah to marry a sunni muslim and we'd hate each other so much that we'd even because of hatred find other than Allah to call in Worship.We'd be no different from the people of the scripture.What are these names,Is there a register somewhere that u'll submit ur names to God....WE ARE ALL MUSLIMS..And a muslim should follow the qur'An and Sunnah..What's with the "they and we"...I fear that the end time is near.these are the sighns of the end time.Let us all enjoin what is Good and forbid what/whatever will lead to evil.May Allah(swt) guide us in the Right path(Amin)

Let's love one another

That's What Happen When even Christians don't Follow the Bible.They made God out of A man.They didn't stop there,they disobeyed the commands of that Man,they hanged their sins on his neck looking for an easier way out.I swear by Allah,Each man shall Work for his heaven and No man shall bear the inequity of another.If those people Follow the right way of sleeping in Islam,and read books on interpretation of dreams...they'd have more knowledge.The end time is near,God is 1,and he loves us to have sent to us,tons of prophets that we maybe warned.The decievers have made Images of their God when their book says:
Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, nor any manner of likeness, of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;
I don't know why people don't think really...There's nothing like God,yet u paint him as a man..I fear the punishment to befall disbelievers.Why do u mmake a mockery of even the ones you call you God and claim to love.Do u ponder at All.

@cleanvessel
I know you people are not to blame but generations before you.I have something to say but I wish u could answer me on this.

1.Who do u see Jesus as?
2.From what I have read of ur post.I figure He's GOD to you.
3.If he's God.Why
4.I wish to know if u believe he's in the father and in the holyghost
5.Is the father Jehovah
6. Is the father,the holyghost(angels),and Jesus always together
7. Are they always in each other
8. We often praise God as the Uncreated Creator!..So Was Jesus Created.If No!..I need an evidence to know he wasn't created by God.
9. Are these three bodies equal or 1 is greater

I think I should stop there...I hope you answer me.For years I've been trying to get the concept of God in christianity...but I haven't been able to.

See!!!...let no Man decieve you that he's gone to heaven and come back.You go for yourself.If God Had said in his scriptures that He has created Man and we do not Lie!!! I'd believe all those fairytales..You go there for yourself..ur bible condemn following conjectures/what u have no vivid evidence of..And Islam disproves of it...all those pple going and coming,telling you they saw terry g in hell..they are misguided fellows.Do they know what God plans for Terry G.do they know His action that is beta than a thousand of theirs..Don't be decieved!!..If pple r going der,pray that u go also

cleanvessel: @ golpen

True Chritians don't speak in tongues unconscious. The white garment churches who do have the same source as islam. Both are different departments of the same 'Strongman'. No record of such occurrence in the Bible.

God is not stagnant or stationary; He keeps moving, doing new things.

Can you tell me the quran would not have been bigger than it is if Muhammad did not die at the time he died.

Did allah tell you he had finished his revelations before Muhammad died?

How are you so sure the revelations you have in the quran is sufficient to take you to heaven?

Who among the muslims has got to heaven practicing the quran? Show your evidence.

You cannot afford to be in a plane that has lost control with the Control Tower. Islam is a kind of plane that has lost signals with the Control Tower in Heaven. It is a religion that is cut off from messages from heaven.

Jesus keeps speaking in words and dreams. We have seen people who have experienced near death (NDE), Christians, atheists, muslims, they all come back to become better Christians.

@Cleanvessel
I liked the way you explained that zephaniah,most of the times I qoute it to christians,they don't reply,rather they rain abuses.You see,I wouldn't be stupid to ask a question from a bias mind,What u said is something I never considered but it actually gives a clearer image of the verse.That what people should do.You can't qoute a verse in the qur'an,people will explain it as u've just Done goog and fine.May God Increase you in knowledge.

Why do u argue about barnabas.....You see,before jesus was moses,before moses were thousands of prophet,mmoses taught with revelations from God,yet when people saw jesus they said Oh!...we'll hold to what moses taught wc they have corrupted,but Had God willed,He would have forsoke us and let us thread in path of destruction,A portion of them knew people have strayed from the teachings of moses,and a portion of them knew of the promise of Jesus to Come,So they Waited and Came!!!..the christ they'd been waiting for,Yet they forsoke him but a few..Jesus(as) did his part,taught and left...In time,his teachings faded and people strayed from his path and God Sent Muhammad(saw) to return to mankind that which it had lost,Any man with common sense should notice the series of things...God sends messangers,And God doesn't preserve evil for long..This man Left a message,Wether u'll believe in it or not.Did u bother to hear it from those he left it with.Had Jesus(as) claimed no one was to come after Him,there wouldn't be a problem..but he didn't.Here the message rightly..Don't go to the decievers who tell u lies about Islam..If u grew up with ur mother and she wants you to hate ur father,She can..All she has to do Is tell u either right/wrong about ur father in a wrong manner...I have wattched the testimony of many who accepted Islam thru anti-Islamic sites.Learn at least From the Final Messanger...As some section of the people of moses wasted their time and didn't accept jesus,So are u wasting ur time by not accepting Muhammad(saw)

I asked you for ur verses...All of em...I didn't ask that u say the bible is somewhere or not..Just mention all the verses again.Please don't leave anyone out.

cleanvessel: I didn't in anyway abuse you. Being spoon-fed does not amount to an abuse. I'm saying you don't expected everything said to be literal. You are asking for where bible is literally mentioned when Scripture means Bible in English language.

He saw the truth...Muhammad mentioned in ur bible..he confirmed Islam in ur bible,something u don't practise...U can't even confirm christianity in the bible!!!! May you be guided..Call 2 christians here now and they'll soon start fighting on who's God in the bible...And God is not an author of Confusion

cleanvessel: If the story is true, the man needed to study the quran and hadiths thoroughly before jumping into the unknown.

Anyway, he might be attracted by 72 houris in al-jannah, which is unreal according to Jesus. Muhammad saw that only in a night dream and Jesus said it is untrue as a dweller of heaven.

I'd very much appreciate if you culd send me the address...Jazakumullah.

harmeenart: Most of d madrasahsi know run long term courses,minimum of two years.But there is one in Akure,Al-furqan memorization centre (both hifdh and arabic language) that provides accomodation.But am not really sure about the duration.

You have better knowledge of the bible obviously...Why don't you tell us who that Prophet is?...

You might not know but it's only Islam that glorifies jesus(as).But I'm not saying the Person promised was muhammad(saw)...All I asked was...Who was the promised Prophet?

Mintayo: lols.
Most times,when i discuss this with many muslims,non of them have been sincere,not one!
You quote from John 16:13,what about 14 and 15.
I have discuss this with so many muslim in this section,and i can ssee that most of u guys dnt think for urselves in ur quest to input ur prophet in d Bible?
The question is:
Is mohammed a spirit?
Now lets look at John 16:14-15.
14. He shall glorify me, for he shall receieve of mine, and shall show it unto you.
From the above,let us ask:
1. Did mohammed glorified Jesus?
2. Did mohammed recieve anything from Jesus? What did he recieve from Jesus?
Now verse 15.
15. All things that the father hath are mine: therefore said I,He shall take of mine and show it unto you.
The question is:
1. What did Mohammed take from Jesus?
2. Did Mohammed claim that he recieved his revelation from Jesus?
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Interestingly,it is not only in the book of John that Jesus refer to the Holy Spirit as the promised comforter,but you people decided just not to see that!
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Now let me add to the question above...
1. Did the quran call mohammed the promised comforter promised by Jesus?
2. Or did the quran call Him the comforter at all?
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Jesus loves you!

cleanvessel: @ dareabiola98

Thank God both the quran and hadiths are interpreted in English. One does not need to hate before you can read them and understand.

Nothing if interpreted can be in the same form as the original language.it might not carry the same gravity.When yoruba abuses,u see the gravity in the abuse and when english men interprets it,it looks like its ok to tell ur dad 'Are u alright'...that's why bible in hebrew/aramaic should be printed.Every single muslim speaks an iota of arabic even if its just a salam,a confirmation of God's promise in Zephaniah 5:3. And we shall change the language of the people to one,that they may call upon the name of the lord...OR what's your own interpretation of that verse.

I don't know why you people get angry when you have nothing to say...I said qoute a verse that says the qur'an should be confirmed from the bible.ur raining abuses.Qoute ur verse and illustrate abi

cleanvessel: You are no more a baby that has to be spoon-fed. When Quran 10:94 says Muhammad should confirm from the Scripture that existed before the Quran, what did that mean?

If Torah and Injeel now combined as the Bible, even at Muhammad's time was referred to by allah for confirmation, not allah, Muhammad or muslims have any justification to condemn it again, otherwise there is manipulation being played.

No one will answer you,Why would they ask John,
1.Are you the christ to come
2.Are u the elijah God had promised
3.Are you that prophet
Why didn't they mention His name...peole removed it,and if u read the ancient scriptures,u'll find it there.

As any Sunday School brethren about the vision that Isiah saw.
He saw a vision of the Chariot of asses and Chariot of camel...don't even ask,they'll tell you that the chariot of asses was jesus...and who was the chariot of camels?...they don't want to know
And who was that comforter that Jesus said would come
(John 16:12-14: I HAVE YET MANY THINGS TO SAY UNTO YOU BUT YE CANNOT BEAR THEM NOW. 16-13- HOWBEIT WHEN HE THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH IS COME HE WILL GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH- FOR HE SHALL NOT SPEAK OF HIMSELF BUT WHATSOEVER HE SHALL HEAR THAT SHALL HE SPEAK- AND HE WILL SHEW YOU THINGS TO COME.
Many christian say it is the Holyghost.Jesus Says
(John 16:7: NEVERTHELESS I TELL YOU THE TRUTH IT IS EXPEDIENT FOR YOU THAT I GO AWAY- FOR IF I GO NOT AWAY
THE COMFORTER WILL NOT COME UNTO YOU BUT IF I DEPART I WILL SEND HIM UNTO YOU.).The holyghost was there before the birth of Jesus and during the life of jesus.What Jesus was reffering to was something new to come.
Christian will say u can't understand the bible.well,we agree!!!...Since u have better knowledge of it...why don't u explain...
1.Who was that prophet those that came to john reffered to
2. Who is the chariot of camels
3. Who was the comforter Jesus(as) reffered to?

Obviously u haven't studied any of both scriptures toroughly...If it is for opinion,everybody can have differnt opinion of a thing but facts are fact...If u want to learn about islam/christianity u don't need to go to sites that post hate articles about both religion,Rather,u go to the scripture,and to have the full understanding of a scripture,u don't ask of the qur'an from a christian.he'll tell you a lie.And u don't ask the bible from a muslim,he'll lie about it.Rather learn from those that have total knowledge of it..u read the qur'an and u read its tafsir...the deeper u go into christianity,the deeper u'll know and the deeper u go into Islam the deeper the truth is revealed to you...have u read a bible in Aramaic.you'll be suprised as to the number of times allaha was mentioned and muhammad mention...but the westerners has portrayed jesus as an european and u fall into that trap.

cleanvessel: If the story is true, the man needed to study the quran and hadiths thoroughly before jumping into the unknown.

Anyway, he might be attracted by 72 houris in al-jannah, which is unreal according to Jesus. Muhammad saw that only in a night dream and Jesus said it is untrue as a dweller of heaven.

If that is untrue, what is the assurance that other revelations are true?

Does anyone know a Madrasat that teaches short term arabic...and has a facility for me to stay...in either lagos,Ibadan,or Ogun state.I really need to learn arabic.most of us should and it might be important for many other people...jumah mubaraq

Where did Allah say u should consult the bible...qoute ur verse now abi...wc english are u reffering to,did jesus speak english...Qoute the verse in the qur'an that Allah said confirm the qur'an from the bible

cleanvessel: @dareabiola

1. If you know who you are talking with, you will not refer me to a pastor.

2. You keep dodging the five questions. Answer them as numbered and see where you will land.

3. With all the errors you alleged are in the Scripture (Bible), allah said you should consult it. Your intelligence is not capable of telling allah he didn't know the Scripture (Bible) is having errors. Who is wiser, you or allah?

4. You insult your allah when he gives you a command and you are saying you cannot obey because what he commanded you to do is wrong.

5. I repeat, you cannot cancel allah's instruction to consult the Scripture (Bible) for what you don't know. If allah would again condemn what (Scripture/Bible) that he once approved, spiritual manipulation is going on somewhere.

6. There is noway you can prove the Scripture you quran talks about is not the Bible. Both ''Scripture and Bible are English words. English dictionary says Scripture means the Bible.

[quote author=]1. At what point did the people throw away the Torah and Injeel, was it before islam, during Muhammad's time[/qoute] The bible as you see it contains the word of God and that of Men..The bible may not be whole as it dhould be!but verily it does contains some word of God and your pastors knows which and which is not the word of God.So the revelation of God can't be lost..Rather it was tampered with(added to and removed from)..how will u know that wc is an innovation...its only by the qur'an.

cleanvessel: 5. Why would God be so weak as to allow man throw away His words before He would vow to protect the subsequent revelations? Did He learn from experience?

These are claims of a person who has lost sight of God,Don't get caught in an argument and the u raise curse upon God.God does as he wills and no one can question him,if hehad willed,he wouldn't have sent any messanger at all,yet he sent many to remind us.Would you ask God why he gave the knowledge of technology to this generation and not those before us,would you ask why he made those before us live longer?,would you ask why he created some ugly and some beautiful...these are tests for Mankind and Allah does as he wills,If he didn't want it,it wouldn't be,Yet Allah had sent a book to confirm what had already been lost in those scriptures but you choose not to believe

Don't put what's not in the Qur'an in it....Where,In which verse did Allah say the bible is authentic?..One thing you don't know about books or revelation is that its a knowledge that cannot be forgotten,even christians don't know the first miracle of jesus,he spoke @ birth and said 'I have been given a revelation'..wether he wrote it or didn't..Allah knows best but if he wrote it,it'd be in aramaic/hebrew..The prophet had said,when the people of the scripture say something...if it is false,do not confirm it,and if it is true,do not falsify it...Allah categorically mentioned 'Men who have knowledge of it' obviously the New bible has made this clear that nothing is true about it and such should not be a book of reference as the bible claims[b] How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it (i.e., the bible) into a LIE.   (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:"[/b] and even the authors of the bible have it in their prefaces that the original manuscript contain grave defects and error and these errors are so many and serious as to call for revision'..obviously God wasn't talking about these books but Men who have knowledge of the book he sent...and if u are truthful,u'll find his teaching even in that bible u have @ home but a verse ur pastor reads to u is enough.

Don't put what's not in the Qur'an in it....Where,In which verse did Allah say the bible is authentic?..One thing you don't know about books or revelation is that its a knowledge that cannot be forgotten,even christians don't know the first miracle of jesus,he spoke @ birth and said 'I have been given a revelation'..wether he wrote it or didn't..Allah knows best but if he wrote it,it'd be in aramaic/hebrew..The prophet had said,when the people of the scripture say something...if it is false,do not confirm it,and if it is true,do not falsify it...Allah categorically mentioned 'Men who have knowledge of it' obviously the New bible has made this clear that nothing is true about it and such should not be a book of reference as the bible claims[b] How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it (i.e., the bible) into a LIE.   (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:"[/b] and even the authors of the bible have it in their prefaces that the original manuscript grave defects and error and these errors are so many and serious as to call for revision'..obviously God wasn't talking about these books but Men who have knowledge of the book.

"The people of the Book used to read the Torah in Hebrew and then explain it in Arabic to the Muslims. Allah's Apostle said (to the Muslims). 'Do not believe the people of the Book, nor disbelieve them but say, 'We believe in Allah and whatever is revealed to us, and whatever is revealed to you.' '  (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Holding Fast to the Qur'an and Sunnah, Volume 9, Book 92, Number 460)"
Allah had already told us what is true of the bible,So we only believe any verse of the bible if it agrees 100% with Islam