ummsulaym:

pastor, u shudnt ask me futher questions, u should just go straight into explaining. No need asking me anything cuz i am suppose to understand everything from the explanation u will give... And pls pastor, help me clarify the last 3 words of verse 45 and 51... Tnx... Waiting for ur explanation

ummsulaym:

pastor, u shudnt ask me futher questions, u should just go straight into explaining. No need asking me anything cuz i am suppose to understand everything from the explanation u will give... And pls pastor, help me clarify the last 3 words of verse 45 and 51... Tnx... Waiting for ur explanation

golpen:




You are making me to feel that your situation is very pitiable. You went through the link and can't debunk the facts. You claim you have more questions and you can't post them. You threaten to unfollow the thread as if anybody ever forced you to follow it. You better know what you're doing!!

golpen:




You are making me to feel that your situation is very pitiable. You went through the link and can't debunk the facts. You claim you have more questions and you can't post them. You threaten to unfollow the thread as if anybody ever forced you to follow it. You better know what you're doing!!

Mintayo:
don't take it too hard pls.
Nothing in that link that has not being refuted or debunked in several threads,so i dnt its worth it.
And again,ask a muslim where their prophet can be found in d Bible,and before he or she answer,one can easily tell the part of the Bible where this ppl will quote from even when is not there...so what is the point?
How can i ask more questions when the ones i put up there have not been answered.huh?

golpen:


Highlighting to you what I think is your flaw is not hard on you at all. The point still remains you come into this section to breed chaos and when you get spanked on the head you lay the victim card. Your opinion has always been left to you only when you stick to your christian and eithist section provided for you by the website.

I accept and even love it that Isah A S(jesus) is in my own Qur'an and I don't need that Muhammad is in the bible to confirm the authencity of my deen. Peace.

golpen:

When you know that is your stance, why try to force your stance down people's throat. That is selfishly unjust. Is this thread meant for you?

Mintayo:
are you advocating for my ban or what?
I didnt say anything that breeds chaos, so i dnt know what u r talking abt,if u can not contribute meaningfully why not avoid the thread.
I know u v Jesus in ur book,but one need to see which one u have in there,because history,let alone the Bible does not agree with the jesus u v in there.
Peace.

jpiliya:
on whom did I try to force my stance? mind you I never discussed jesus/christianity with you or anyone on this tread .... I know fully well that I cant convict any heart on my own God does that mine is just to tell you the TRUE that s all and since this tread was not initially for that I rejected your invitation to view a certain link and comments then how am I forcing my stance on you?

golpen:


I'm not refering to this particular thread alone, but but every intruding posts here. Meanwhile, the offence of the criminal is minor to that who indulges him (just an idiom). You came on the thread to support your fellow so your case isn't different from his.

Mintayo:
there is nothing like the 'gospel of barnabas',i believe the book was written by a muslim to authenticate that Jesus is a messenger and mohammed is the messiah...the book also say,Jesus is not the son of God and so on...
It is one of those book written to discredit the Bible but thank God for knowlege...the book is not acceptable by christains.
There is nothing like the 'gospel f barnabas'...we only have the Gospel of our Lord and saviour Jesus christ!

jpiliya:
I came to dis tread because I was intrested in your response to it ( does islam condone ? ) and you failed me... yes a saluted mintayo because he is responding to your oversight questions .... and if am guilty by that then you are equally as guilty for inviting me.. it shows you were as well intrested in my supporting him by inviting me to responsed side by side mintayo.

Mintayo:
may the Lord Jesus bless you too.


let me ask you:
wen was this gospel written?
Where did they find it?
When was the quran written that we have mostly everything in the quran in it?
Who was barnabas? Was he alive during the time of Mohammed?
Until you answer the above questions,i may not attend to your post again...shalom.

DevotedOne: Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allaah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum, The Peace of Allaah Be Upon You.

Barnabas' gospel was written in the first century, at the time of Prophet Isa [Jesus, PBUH] being sent to the children of Israel.

Strangely enough it was found in the grave with/of Barnabas.

The Noble Qur'an was assembled some time in the mid to late six hundreds AD, if memory serves me correctly.

Barnabas was a scribe and disciple of Prophet Isa [Jesus, PBUH]. Barnabas states that he wrote the words that flowed from the mouth of Jesus PBUH.

i wanted to laugh but i discover that this is a serious issue,so u guys cld lie to defend ur religion like this?
Pls where was barnabas buried?

i think am done with u,i can't continue with u when u r lying.
1. Barnabas was not a disciple of Jesus.YOU LIE!
2. All that we v in dt book was contradictory to all Jesus said.
3. Barnabas came years after Jesus died,so how can those lies be from His mouth.
4. What we v in d 4 gospel contradicts what is written in dt barnabas book.
(the fact that he was not Jesus disciple shows that u lie).

The book of barnabas was written by a muslim to authenticate ur prophet n ur book...how?

The Bible is clear abt who Jesus is,no barnabas wrote any gospel,stop LYING.

Embrace the truth,embrace Jesus.

peteregwu: THEIR IS NO COMPARISON BETWEEN ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY. THEY ARE FAR APART AND CANT MEET, THEY ARE THE SAME AND CAN NEVER BE THE SAME.

CHRISTIANITY HAS GREAT PROVE OF THE POWER OF GOD THROUGH CHRIST JESUS WITH MANY WITNESSES. BUT ISLAM HAS NO PROVE OF THE POWER OF GOD. IT IS MORE LIKE A DEAD RELIGION WITH NOTHING TO SHOW. IN ISLAM THEIR ARE NO WITNESSES, ONLY MOHAMMED IS THE WITNESS AND ONLY HIM BROUGHT ABOUT ISLAM. IT GOES TO SHOW THAT ISLAM IS FALSE.

DevotedOne: Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allaah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum, The Peace of Allaah Be Upon You.



Salaam Mintayo



Barnabas' gospel was written in the first century, at the time of Prophet Isa [Jesus, PBUH] being sent to the children of Israel.
Strangely enough it was found in the grave with/of Barnabas.

The Noble Qur'an was assembled some time in the mid to late six hundreds AD, if memory serves me correctly.

Barnabas was a scribe and disciple of Prophet Isa [Jesus, PBUH]. Barnabas states that he wrote the words that flowed from the mouth of Jesus PBUH.
I doubt that he would have lived at the time of Prophet Muhammad [S.A.A.W.]


Wassalaam. DevotedOne

peteregwu: IF YOU ARE EXPECTING THE QURAN OR ANY OTHER BOOK TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS THEN YOU WILL BE MAKING A VERY BIG MISTAKE. THEY WILL ALL LIE ABOUT JESUS. ONLY THE BIBLE WILL SPEAK THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS AND WHO JESUS IS. THE REASON IS BECAUSE JESUS SPOKE ABOUT HIMSELF IN THE BIBLE AND OTHER PROPHETS IN THE BIBLE SPOKE ABOUT HIM TOO, RECOGNISING AS THE ONLY MESSIAH AND GOD. THE BIBLE SPOKE OF JESUS AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD AND NO ONE ELSE. NO PROPHET IN THE BIBLE CALLED HIMSELF AS THE MESSIAH, AND PROPHETS IN THE BIBLE ARE NEVER SEEN AS A MESSIAH, AND THEY NEVER REFER TO THEMSELVES AS MESSIAH, ONLY JESUS DID.

GOD HAS A NAME. THE NAME 'GOD' IS JUST A POSITION. JUST LIKE WE HAVE FATHER, MOTHER, PRESIDENT, GOVERNOR, SENATOR, DADDY, MUMMY, PASTOR, ETC THEY ALL ARE POSITIONS. BUT EVERY BEING HAS A NAME, EVEN THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN HAS A NME TO INDENTIFY THEM. JUST LIKE WE HAVE ANGEL GABRIEL, MICHAEL, RAFAEL ETC. THE SAME WAY MY OWN BIOLOGICAL FATHER AND MOTHER HAS A NAME. GOD ALSO HAS A NAME AND THAT NAME STANDS OUT IN HEAVEN, EARTH, BENEATH THE EARTH, THE SEAS AND OCEANS ETC AND THAT NAME IS JESUS!!!

WHEN THAT NAME IS MENTIONED, EVERY KNEE BOWS AND THEY TREMBLE IN HEAVEN, EARTH AND EVEN IN THE KINGDOM OF DARKNESS ETC. SATAN TREMBLES, DEMONS TREMBLE EVEN THE NATIVE DOCTORS (BABALAWO) HATE THAT NAME.

Philippians 2:10 KJV
"That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;"

Revelation 1:17-18 KJV
"And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: [18] I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

JESUS CREATED THE WORLD AND EVERYTHING IN IT SEEN AND UNSEEN.

John 1:3-4, 10 KJV
"All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. [4] In him was life; and the life was the light of men. [10] He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not."

LET ME JUST STOP HERE. BUT I HAVE SO MANY PROVE IN THE BIBLE THAT JESUS IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD AND SAVIOUR!

Please only in the Bible Jesus spoke for himself and not in quran or other books. Remember, a man can only speak of himself better than any other person.

peteregwu: IF YOU ARE EXPECTING THE QURAN OR ANY OTHER BOOK TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS THEN YOU WILL BE MAKING A VERY BIG MISTAKE. THEY WILL ALL LIE ABOUT JESUS. ONLY THE BIBLE WILL SPEAK THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS AND WHO JESUS IS. THE REASON IS BECAUSE JESUS SPOKE ABOUT HIMSELF IN THE BIBLE AND OTHER PROPHETS IN THE BIBLE SPOKE ABOUT HIM TOO, RECOGNISING AS THE ONLY MESSIAH AND GOD. THE BIBLE SPOKE OF JESUS AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD AND NO ONE ELSE. NO PROPHET IN THE BIBLE CALLED HIMSELF AS THE MESSIAH, AND PROPHETS IN THE BIBLE ARE NEVER SEEN AS A MESSIAH, AND THEY NEVER REFER TO THEMSELVES AS MESSIAH, ONLY JESUS DID.

GOD HAS A NAME. THE NAME 'GOD' IS JUST A POSITION. JUST LIKE WE HAVE FATHER, MOTHER, PRESIDENT, GOVERNOR, SENATOR, DADDY, MUMMY, PASTOR, ETC THEY ALL ARE POSITIONS. BUT EVERY BEING HAS A NAME, EVEN THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN HAS A NME TO INDENTIFY THEM. JUST LIKE WE HAVE ANGEL GABRIEL, MICHAEL, RAFAEL ETC. THE SAME WAY MY OWN BIOLOGICAL FATHER AND MOTHER HAS A NAME. GOD ALSO HAS A NAME AND THAT NAME STANDS OUT IN HEAVEN, EARTH, BENEATH THE EARTH, THE SEAS AND OCEANS ETC AND THAT NAME IS JESUS!!!

WHEN THAT NAME IS MENTIONED, EVERY KNEE BOWS AND THEY TREMBLE IN HEAVEN, EARTH AND EVEN IN THE KINGDOM OF DARKNESS ETC. SATAN TREMBLES, DEMONS TREMBLE EVEN THE NATIVE DOCTORS (BABALAWO) HATE THAT NAME.

Philippians 2:10 KJV
"That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;"

Revelation 1:17-18 KJV
"And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: [18] I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

JESUS CREATED THE WORLD AND EVERYTHING IN IT SEEN AND UNSEEN.

John 1:3-4, 10 KJV
"All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. [4] In him was life; and the life was the light of men. [10] He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not."

LET ME JUST STOP HERE. BUT I HAVE SO MANY PROVE IN THE BIBLE THAT JESUS IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD AND SAVIOUR!

Please only in the Bible Jesus spoke for himself and not in quran or other books. Remember, a man can only speak of himself better than any other person.

peteregwu: IF YOU ARE EXPECTING THE QURAN OR ANY OTHER BOOK TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS THEN YOU WILL BE MAKING A VERY BIG MISTAKE. THEY WILL ALL LIE ABOUT JESUS. ONLY THE BIBLE WILL SPEAK THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS AND WHO JESUS IS. THE REASON IS BECAUSE JESUS SPOKE ABOUT HIMSELF IN THE BIBLE AND OTHER PROPHETS IN THE BIBLE SPOKE ABOUT HIM TOO, RECOGNISING AS THE ONLY MESSIAH AND GOD. THE BIBLE SPOKE OF JESUS AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD AND NO ONE ELSE. NO PROPHET IN THE BIBLE CALLED HIMSELF AS THE MESSIAH, AND PROPHETS IN THE BIBLE ARE NEVER SEEN AS A MESSIAH, AND THEY NEVER REFER TO THEMSELVES AS MESSIAH, ONLY JESUS DID.

GOD HAS A NAME. THE NAME 'GOD' IS JUST A POSITION. JUST LIKE WE HAVE FATHER, MOTHER, PRESIDENT, GOVERNOR, SENATOR, DADDY, MUMMY, PASTOR, ETC THEY ALL ARE POSITIONS. BUT EVERY BEING HAS A NAME, EVEN THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN HAS A NME TO INDENTIFY THEM. JUST LIKE WE HAVE ANGEL GABRIEL, MICHAEL, RAFAEL ETC. THE SAME WAY MY OWN BIOLOGICAL FATHER AND MOTHER HAS A NAME. GOD ALSO HAS A NAME AND THAT NAME STANDS OUT IN HEAVEN, EARTH, BENEATH THE EARTH, THE SEAS AND OCEANS ETC AND THAT NAME IS JESUS!!!

WHEN THAT NAME IS MENTIONED, EVERY KNEE BOWS AND THEY TREMBLE IN HEAVEN, EARTH AND EVEN IN THE KINGDOM OF DARKNESS ETC. SATAN TREMBLES, DEMONS TREMBLE EVEN THE NATIVE DOCTORS (BABALAWO) HATE THAT NAME.

Philippians 2:10 KJV
"That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;"

Revelation 1:17-18 KJV
"And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: [18] I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

JESUS CREATED THE WORLD AND EVERYTHING IN IT SEEN AND UNSEEN.

John 1:3-4, 10 KJV
"All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. [4] In him was life; and the life was the light of men. [10] He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not."

LET ME JUST STOP HERE. BUT I HAVE SO MANY PROVE IN THE BIBLE THAT JESUS IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD AND SAVIOUR!

Please only in the Bible Jesus spoke for himself and not in quran or other books. Remember, a man can only speak of himself better than any other person.

dareabiola98: U see all this fall at His knee,bow to,do this,do that,......I swear by Allah,You are in Manifest Error.You see a man that has a Phd yet he dosnt really ponder but he wants to hold on to the eliefs of their father.You see all this characteristics u've mentioned of Jesus,You can see in all prophets,they lived and they are still living..Over 1.5billion pple say d name of Muhammad(saw) errday likewise Jesus.He never for Onece said,Worship Me.Lemme tell you stuffs I want u to think about.
1. Verily,Jesus isn't God,....If he was he wouldn't bow to any other God.He wouldn't Pray cos he could have as well done it himself.He would ask why God had forsaken him on the cross if he was willing to be sacriFised for ur sins,so will u say God forced Him,then he has no power but the power God grants Him
2.Look at every speech of Jesus and bring me one verse where he told pple to worship Him.And u look @ d speech of jesus and everytime he speaks,he makes aware of a greater power,he says he has no power but what God grants Him...and he keeps on talking about the father.But u do not ponder
3. There is no way there are 3 Gods,the bible doesn't even claim it.And moreover let's think of it.If there were 3 Gods,They'd be Equal but from the bible,the father has power over all,they wouldn't be created but the father created Jesus and the holyghost(Angels)...We could just keep on going but then Allah guides whom he wills to guide.

The only thing I ask now is,Why do you think Muslim come to churches when jesus neva even established a church in his lifetime.So I asked a freind and he said...the muslims are on the wrong path because they don't bliv in jesus...I said "WE DO"...and he was like no...You have to believe he's god..Then I showed him various verses where Jesus was reffered to as the servant of God...And I told him,If the bible says this and I believe So well in it. And I know so well that a servant could never be a God.Cos he would be serving som1 greater than him but God is the Greatest.And he's trying to prove Jesus as God,And If he believes Jesus so well to be God.Allah Says in the Glorious Qur'an that "I will judge between that which u differ"

Mintayo:
You are just ranting,there some facts that you cannot do anything about,that you can not change,you can only do what you are doing now.
We christains are not worshipping or serving three gods,they are just the products of your own imaginations.
You ask if Jesus established a church,do you know who or what a church is? What is a church?
Jesus is the ONLY way to God,nobody can get to God except through Him.