KanwuliaExtra:

Hmmmm!
Na who ask for all this explanation oooooooh?
Na only 1 scammer dey NL?

I had to help you reason since you wouldn't–or rather couldn't–do it yourself.

KanwuliaExtra:

Obviously, even with your recycled ID, you still feign ignorance of the meaning of my use of the “kissing emoji”?

The “scammer” returns!

Please, face the topic.

If what you are trying to hint at is that I am Coogar, hence your allusion to "The scammer", then sorry, you are terribly wide of the mark. Last time I checked, Coogar was effusively pro-abortion.
Also, Darkrebel–in his former incarnations–was a popular figure in the rap section on Nairaland and occasionally bantered with Coogar on so many Hip-hop/Rap related issues; Coogar also downvoted Darkrebel on so many of his rap battles, so unless I have a split personality disorder, then your indirect accusation is pathetically möronic.

You are not that bright, KarishikaExtra. You know that, don't you? Go suck a dick, will ya?

Daeylar:

You will not compare a woman's body to a bank, you will not compare a woman's body to money, you will not compare a woman's pregnancy to putting money in a bank, you will not compare a woman's pregnancy to putting a bank inside money,
In case you need more explanations on why you won't do such

Why is that? Because a woman's body is gold or because it is made of diamond? Which one? Don't you guys compare our genitals to things like "rod", "stick", "bazooka", "pole", etc?

Stop over-reacting, Drug-Daeylar. Even the Bible compared Jesus–whom Christians take as their messiah– to a "sherperd". Analogies are not meant to trivialize or commodify, but to illumine.

Which is why I'm just going to ignore your ridiculous demands and compare away.
In this case, we will take a woman's body to be a bank (Bite me! ). A man deposits semen (money) in her, and it germinates into a foetus. Yes, we know a woman owns her body in the literal sense, but the moment she is pregnant and has a life growing within her, she has no right to decide whether it lives or not. She is only a vessel for another human life, not an arbiter of life and death.

I'm not one to cavil about the influences of the West, but I think this issue of abortion has the smutty fingerprints of the West all over it. It's only an irresponsible female who is also unfit to be a mother that will think to MURDER a child all in the name of it not being fully developed and so does not qualify as murder, or on the grounds that it is an "unwanted pregnancy".

I want to believe that if a woman is mature enough to have sex then she should be mature enough to deal with the consequences of it if either due to her clumsiness she did not use prophylactics or if she used and still got pregnant.

The issue of abortion only arises when people refuse to be take responsibility for their actions. And technology is also to be blamed. If there was no technology facilitating this crime then it wouldn't even be an issue.

Now please tell me if a bank does any of these for your money.

Now that that's settled

I'm assuming you're saying if the father of the child wants to keep the pregnancy, I don't really know what to do, of course the father and the mother both have a say but I don't really know what to do, if they didn't have an agreement before going raw on what should happen if the woman goes pregnant then good luck to them.

@the bolded, If you were paying attention instead of rapidly skimming through my post so as to give a quick response you would have seen where I said that everything else is your own opinion and you were entitled to it

As for the rape, I saw your post about rape which I agreed with then saw how you tried to be slick and sneak in this "Even in cases of rape, the mother could have the child and then place him or her in a mother-less home."
Which is why I made my comment

My point is if a woman who is pregnant as a result of rape wants to keep the child, you nod your head and say yes, if she wants abortion, you also nod your head and say yes, you do not even attempt to suggest to her what she should do with the pregnancy.

No thank you on your very generous offer , but i think you need your pince-nez more so you can use it to read through before posting. Thanks again

I still think you need the pince-nez. If not for anything but to accentuate your sexiness.

KanwuliaExtra:


Not my business!
You carry the topic on your pillow and sleep on it.
No wake up o.

Why do you keep using "kissing emojis"? You are too old for me.

Dannieln1:
Has NFF wished him happy birthday on their official twitter handle (if they have any)

happy birthday one of our most admired striker

The man is a midfielder.

21 my äss!

Daeylar:

Wow, this is very insensitive to women, you can't tell a woman who her body belongs to, her body belongs to her and her alone, point blank. End of discussion

If you put money in a bank, does the money belong to the bank and the bank alone? Answer this.

Furthermore you have absolutely no right to tell a rape victim what to do with her pregnancy if she got pregnant as a result of the rape, that's very insensitive and outright annoying.
The woman was raped, yet you want her to carry that reminder of rape for 9 months without her opinion on the issue, that's just disgusting and insensitive. I have no words, for you to actually think you have the right to tell a rape victim what to do with her pregnancy. Just wow.

A woman's body belongs to her and her alone, let that sink in.

You have absolutely no right to tell a rape victim what to do with a pregnancy as a result of rape, let that sink in also.

Do you think life is rosy in motherless babies homes?

These are just the issues I have with your write up,
The rest is your personal opinion which you are entitled to.

I'm pro do whatever is best for you and the child

If you were paying any attention rather than rapidly skimming through so as to give a quick response, then you would have seen where I made concessions in the cases of "rape" and when "the birth of a child poses a grave danger to the mother's life". Do you need a pince-nez?

KanwuliaExtra:


You are a pro lifer?
Are you the first or last on NL?
If you are a MAN, you have absolutely no business discussing abortion topics because YOU can NEVER understand how it affects girls or women.

You are simple not qualified to discuss it.
Simple.
Please exit YOUR thread quietly.

Because only women suffer the consequences of abortions? Take this for example: A woman has had multiple abortions and suffers complications, she gets married at some later date, but she is unable to bear children due to the complications. Now, does the choice of her actions not affect her husband who is probably none the wiser about her antecedents?

KanwuliaExtra:


If you are a BOY or MAN, you are not qualified to discuss abortion topics.
Save your time and seek your level of understanding prior to using your fingers.

Thanks.

If you are a GIRL or WOMAN, you are not fit to discuss mid-life crisis in men. If you are not Asian, you are not fit to discuss Asian politics. That's how lousy your rationale is.

Just admit your brain is water-logged at the moment. Murderer.

KanwuliaExtra:

No worries.
I am very apathetic to these kinds of topics.
Why worry about what you can’t control?

If you are such a humanitarian, why not open a world wide shelter and take in all the abandoned babies you may probably traffick to the highest bidders for slavery or rituals?

Thou protest to much abeg

Blame your super murderer God.
In his own image and likeness abi?

Being apathetic to matters of life and death only bolsters my claim of you being a psychopath sociopath. Dear, you are not meant to be apathetic to such issues. If your definition of being apathetic meant a reticence of speech then it would have being better. But your apathy takes the form of thought-less and carefree speech, which is insensitively callous.

I am not a humanitarian. I care for myself and my family alone most times. So you see, I'm somewhat selfish, but are't we all?
Murder–especially of babies–, and crimes against children are what bother me most.

If I had the means I would open a "world wide shelter".

I'm not a believer of God. At least not in the God or gods of organized religions. I believe in the possibility of a god or gods or supernatural entity or entities, but I also believe in the impossibility of a god or gods or a supernatural entity or entities.
I don't have to be religious before I speak against MURDER. I only have to be humanist, which I am.

KanwuliaExtra:

You cannot make your point without calling names?

I don pass that stage abeg.
Who is sounding more like a Psychopath now?

Is it a requirement that I have to make my point without calling names? Besides, your name is KanwuliaExtra. Are you KarashikaExtra? KarashikaExtra does have a nice ring to it though. Hehe.

My bad, psychopaths are usually intelligent, methodical, and less impulsive. I think I might have misdiagnosed you. You fit the bill of a low-functioning sociopath more than you do a high-functioning psychopath.

butterflyl1on:


Well the truth is that whatever someone has been repeatedly exposed to be it good or bad can affect ones views about a lot of things.

Imagine talking about fetuses all chopped up in loads of trash bags as if one is talking about groceries.

Those are generations wiped out and packed in trash bags like Rotten Tomatoes. I tried ignoring that comment but you had to highlight it again.

The lady-troll in question used to have the picture of a penïs on her Nairaland's DP. I'm no practitioner from Harley Street neither am I an alienist, but surely you would agree that such impulsive and reckless behaviour are suggestive of acute mania, and not atypical of the sort of person who sees human beings as "chopped up loads in trash bags"?

It's quite silly to hold briefs for abortion on the premise that the woman's body belongs to her and so grants her the legitimacy to unilaterally decide whether or not a foetus should be KILLED. Yes, I think we should call it KILLING, not ABORTION. The word "abortion" sounds too abstract and seems to lessen the significance of the act. It's like opting to call The Holocaust "elimination of Jewish elements" rather than call it "the mass murder of Jews". The former sounds abstract–poetic even–, while the latter sounds concrete and much more forthright, and is also much more likely to grate on our conscience.

And no, I do not agree that "the body belongs to the woman". It stopped being her body the minute she got pregnant. From then on it became the body of two–or three in the case of triplets.

I remember one particular Christmas from my childhood. My grandmother bought three chickens and we–her grandchildren–played with them and also fed them with corn and rice from early December up until the morning of 24th December. I remember that on that morning when the chickens were to be slaughtered, my grandmother stretched out the neck of one chicken, handed a knife to one of my male cousins and asked him to cut the chicken's neck. He couldn't. And this was a boy of about 16 years. And I'm certain many of us get naseous and squeamish about the sight of blood–Well, unless you're an indurate psychopath like KarashikaExtra.

The point I'm trying to make is, I think abortion comes easy to many people and doesn't seem so gory due to the fact that the "shedding of blood" is not explicit, or should I say, due to the fact that it takes places internally and so our conscience is spared of the graphic details. Supposing that abortions have to take place manually–not via abortion pills and the likes that help with the guilt–, supposing you actually have to use your own hands to stab the foetus no matter how tiny it is, and supposing you have to see tomato paste spurting out of its tiny frame, then maybe then would abortion be seen for what it really is, which is conscientious MURDER – a sin against both Man and Nature.

I think abortion should only be an option in cases when the birth of a child poses a great danger to the mother's life, or in cases of rape. Even in cases of rape, the mother could have the child and then place him or her in a mother-less home.

KanwuliaExtra:


Oh please. My first job was in an abortion clinic.
I am way past the “traumatizing” phases of life.

That was almost 30 years ago.

Tons of thrash bags with chopped up fetuses.
You wan show me video of something wey I do see LIVE?

You nefa see anything o. I don see TAYA, and IMMUNE to the ways of the world. I really don’t give a hoot. Not here to save the world.
Abeg, many prophets preach the same messages.
Hopefully, those who the matter concern go listen.

I am not an activist for any aspect of humanity.
Not my consine.

You seem like a potential murderer. I see the subtle signs of psychopathy and cold-bloodedness in you. I would sooner have Casey Anthony baby-sit my kids before I have them entrusted in your care.

Chai! Sweet chariot! I know that the South-West welcoming the White missionaries with a glad hand and allowing them set up schools–unlike the North–also contributed immensely to these resounding academic feats, but why!, just take a look at those numbers! It doesn't take much imagination to decipher why our equally intelligent Igbo brothers are scarce on that list. Many of them would opt to trade and do business rather than pursue a professorship --- at least back in those days anyway.

...and yet Nigeria's president is a low-IQ cattle-rearer with a missing WAEC result. Yet we wonder why we seem to never progress.

...

Oh! I am also only a couple of years shy of my professorship. Soon I know that I will have attained that feat. Perhaps I would be the first professor of African women's booty -- obtained from Qhal Institute of Booty-land. Doctor Literris of ÄSS and Humanities. Oshey!

Is it wrong to make money before your elder brother? Such a dumb-äss question!

tosyne2much:
[i] This is to tell you that our education system is nothing but a mirage

''Mirage" is hardly the proper description. "Poorly equipped" and "under-qualified'' better describe Nigeria's education system.

I think our intelligence in this part of the world is only expressible on thick papers, because it beats my imagination how varsities keep churning out first class graduates who, at the end of the day, have nothing to contribute to science, art, technology and in their respective fields.

This is a very unfounded statement, and I suspect that it's a tad "envy-tinged". There are many of our first-class graduates who have contributed massively to science, art, and technology, both on a local and international scale. From what I gather, Seun Osewa was a first-class student before he decided to drop out of OAU so as to pursue his personal ambitions (Nairaland). Can you then say Seun has contributed nothing even after seeing the positive impacts that Nairaland has had on thousands–perhaps millions–of people? Like I said before, this is a very unfounded statement.

Quick question, did you know that a Nigerian family (Imafidon family) was named the smartest family in the U.K.? This only shows that the fault lies with the system and not with the individual units. No matter how talented or avant-garde, there is still a limit to what one individual can do.

Isn't it degrading that someone who studied mechanical engineering cannot dissemble a tiger generator to fix a broken part, and isn't it even more degrading that such a person came out with an outstanding result? Why? Because everything learnt was only within the confine of old and recycled handouts with little or no practical orientation.

Mr. Tosin, you don't study mechanical engineering so you can know how to "dissemble a Tiger generator" or any of those simplistic and uninformed balderdash you and many others on this thread have spouted.

I'll refer you to this man:

alpontif:

That is why I said your question stemmed from a place of ignorance /wrong assumption.

It's like the common wrong assumption people make about mechanical engineers, thinking that they ought to be able to design and repair Cars. Not knowing or caring to clarify what mechanical engineering is, and know that it is different from automobile engineering or Motor mechanics technology.

A mechanical engineer will not know anything about motor vehicles unless his speciality is automobile engineering.

So when you shout up and down that Mechanical engineers are incompetent because they can't repair cars, you are only announcing your ignorance to the world.

In some parts of the world, we have people who are just average students yet they are very innovative and are wizards in their fields but here, it's a different thing entirely. Even in this so called country, there are some illiterates who are more innovative and practically oriented than the so called professors even in their own field of study ooo.

Being an "illiterate'' does not make you any less innovative than your "literate'' counterparts. Literacy is only the ability to read and write, not the ability to think or to be innovative.

This more or less shows that many people in this part of the world have a very superficial understanding of what "education'' entails–of what "formal education" entails.

Education–formal in this case–only helps you become a thinker or someone who can think for himself. And in its most elitist and advanced form it aids in refining the thoughts of those who can already think for themselves. Formal education does not make you an "inventor", so let us now all do away with the ignorant preoccupation of finding correlations between "how educated a person is" and "how many things s/he has invented". It is rather silly.

Also, my good man, not everyone has to be "practically oriented". That's why we have theorists and conceptualists. Some people have the ability to come up with ideas and mental schemas, and others the innate ability to have these mental conceptions implemented and converted to concrete form.

There are many first-class graduates I have met and I can tell you categorically that they are all brilliant young men and women. In fact, considering the many challenges one faces in "ALL" Nigerian universities (excluding Private unis)–Challenges such as: (I.) Unenthusiastic and sadistic lecturers (II.) Frequent strikes (III.) Poorly stocked libraries and laboratories (IV.) Outdated curricula and non-availability of sufficient course material (V.) Economic hardship (VI) Unhabitable hostels...
.Really, I do not think anyone who after going through all these challenges and graduates with first class honours from a Federal or State university in Nigeria, would have nothing upstairs to offer.

Come to think of it, first-class graduates (excluding those from Private Unis) usually only make up less than 1% of the student population of any graduating year.
Consider LASU for example, when they did their 20th convocation ceremony in which two graduating sets were combined, there were only 8 students who graduated with first-class honours out of more than 17,000 graduands. Here's a link if you think that this is some cöck-and-bull tale > https://www.nairaland.com/3115733/lasu-convocate-17695-20th-convocation

It's a game of numbers really. Don't you think it's rather unfair and unintelligent to zero in focus on those 8 first-class graduates and spare the other 17,000 who graduated with 2.1, 2.2, or a pass? Even so, don't you think the much more smarter thing to do would be to supplant the ineffectual system (by this I mean the government in all tiers) and to create an enabling environment in which fresh graduates would be able to thrive and implement that which had been imparted unto them at the Ivory Towers?

As far I am concerned, the OP has failed woefully in the treatment of the subject. It lacks depth and it is horribly simplistic.

Geezholla:
Good one. The problem with our educational system is that it has made making As and Bs a priority. Students are eager to make them than to actually learn. Even those who tend to learn will end up being branded lecturers and most of them end up der. No real learning in the educational system

It's not only peculiar to the education system here. It's what obtains globally.

Touché. "Walking marriage" does not seem like a very befitting name for such a practice though.
I particularly fancied the "serial monogamy'' portion. Monogamy is too unnatural. As unnatural as peeing with one's eyes.

I think this sort of thing used to happen in pre-Mohammed Mecca (according to a Hafiz I used to know). He said in those times a girl's family would announce that a marriageable girl was available in the house and then several bachelors would troop into the house and have sex with the girl until she gets pregnant or perhaps until she finds one with whom she thinks she is compatible. I don't know how authentic this is though.

Daeylar:


Ask him

?

The government of Poland spends about 3% of its annual budget on RESEARCH, just research alone (NOT EDUCATION). Don't we have so-called professors in government? What is their significance?

Is RESEARCH not a form of EDUCATION?

I don't seem to get the head nor the tail of this write-up. If it's what I think it is trying to say then I would say that "mass brain drain'' is the answer to your question. And I don't think I need to spell out the reasons that incite our keenest minds to troop out in droves to Europe and America in search of greener pastures.

This [useless] country and her [useless] government would have been better off had she remained under colonial rule at least up until the '90s. I know that I must sound like the biblical Israelites who preferred the slavery–albeit with security–in Egypt than to die of inanition in the wilderness, but there is a difference. The Israelites had Moses. What do Nigerians have? A clusterfuck of Lying Lai Mohammeds and a horde of self-seeking political hoodlums with low IQs.

I tell you, that's part of the reason why South Africa is where and what she is today. It's only because the Boers had control of her way longer than the Brits had control of Nigeria.

The fact speaks for itself. We Africans have zero maintenance culture, and the ideology of the commonweal seems too far-fetched as majority of us are mostly driven by greed and self-aggrandizement.

Independence was a Greek gift, a curse in disguise.

Spain might as well be a police state. Shooting innocent Catalans–with "rubber bullets" they say–, injuring 465, putting more than 6 in critical condition, leathering women with wooden batons and violating every human right and dignity under the sun. Even if the courts have proscribed the referendum as illegal, does that cancel out the right to free association and of expression? This thing called nationalism is evil.

It goes without saying that the next EL Clasico would be more of a political tug-of-war than a sporting event. Of course, it has always been that way but with the ultra-charged political atmosphere, it's already promising to be a humdinger of a game. We can't afford to lose the game. Even a draw wouldn't suffice. It's go hard or go home. A resounding WIN or nothing else.

PS: Vivalabyke, you were right–Suaréz is completely washed-up.

Força Barça!

Tebas' ham-fisted ploy to a claim of neutrality. Sneaky bastard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JVhbusBDi4

Acidosis:


You've failed to realize that humans generally love to embrace ideas that support their beliefs and reject information that contradicts them.

So far, it appears more males have come to say they have no issues with wealth-related compliments on the other hand, more women have come to render their displeasure. Doesn't that make a meaning to you? Aside you (the hermaphrodite that takes delight in poetry and insults at the detriment of critical reasoning and commonsense), don't you think everyone else seems to align and hang on to something? I mean, that also excludes your cohort and partner in poetic drunkenness, the only frustrated one that has come out to call me a sexist for no justifiable reason.

Mind you, no one is claiming to be intellectually sound. As a matter of fact, I'm not interested in whatever contest you or anyone else might have imagined.

There are no "more males". Making up more statistics again, eh? There hasn't even been up to 3 males who have come on this thread to say that they do not find it inappropriate to make vocal observations about the body mass of someone with whom they are not intimate. Funny how the so-called "non-conformist" who does not kowtow to society's standard is the one now seeking validation of his manliness from what other men choose to do. What a joke! Insecure charlatan.

And, your constant reference to my posts as poetry is only a feeble attempt to cloak your anguish that you can never debate as fluidly nor as trenchantly as I do. Envy is a sickening thing, innit?

You are a blithering idiöt, and it's not a new discovery to me because I have always seen you as an idiöt. Many of your remarks reveal shallowness of knowledge, narrow-mindedness, and a bigotry that is both chauvinistic and redundant. The more you try to sound smart and the more you try to uphold this misplaced sense of masculinity–which really is only insecure machismo–the more you come across as one who is cognitively under-developed.

I feel like I'm trading words with an imbëcile with the comprehension capacity of a cattle, so really it would be an unproductive waste of my time to continue any form of communication whatsoever with you. Shoo away now.

Roanna:
@ Acidosis,

You've been free-styling bullshit at us and couldn't debate your point or rather the issue on ground, as intelligently as DarkRebel69 did. DarkRebel called you out on your mediocre points and then you claimed he/she isn't an intelligent writer. LOL

It is a classic and patent case of intellectual jealousy. When you can't match the wits, the next recourse is to try to belittle it.

Such a disposition surely bespeaks a poor self-esteem, don't you think?

Well guess what? I've read through the entire thread and you actually come across to me as an unintelligent writer, with no valid points and some sort of grudge against my gender.

Dude, please try to debate your points intelligently without the sweeping generalizations you are so fond of. Oh and by the way DarkRebel is an intelligent and articulate writer, making very valid points. You seem to lack the capacity to tackle DarkRebel intelligently, so if I were you I would respect myself and let it go.

@ Topic/Poster

You've added weight oh! Can be an embarrassing form of greeting and is in no way complimentary to fat people. Like some people have said already, fat people know they are fat and that comment won't do them any good.

Acidosis:


No amount of intellectual debate can convince a poetic bigot.

There is no grander form of self-deception than when a plebeian with low-level powers of reasoning has gulled himself into the belief that he is intellectual.

Charlatan.

This is the height of madness and anomie.

The North remembers...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EU8UXtu-4k

My good friends, there is music and there is MUSIC. This here is MUSIC. Manna for the malnourished soul.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1mQT1u_45I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOwXwB5wf5w