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shilenji:
I don't even understand myself again o, all my life I have never fallen under anointing. Is it that I'm very stubborn? If you belong to this table please gather here let's know ourselves

If you've ever fallen under anointing,how does it happen?

Well, back in Jesus and the apostles' time, only demons made people fall as such.

If you fall, only two things could be possible:

1. You act it up by yourself to please the pastor.
2. Demons playing pranks with you in courtesy of the so-called pastor.

If Jesus and the apostles didn't practice something as important, then try to ask serious questions...

God bless.

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bodee:
Hmmn, I have been a private tutor for some years now. I have taken both sexes on a one-on-one basis.
Sir, I can tell you and sincerely from my heart... the temptation is high;
But thank God, I didn't allow my flesh to push me beyond control. And I have never found myself in a controversial or messy situation on this. Thank God for the trust over the years. And thank God I never breach this trust. But the temptation aspect can never be ruled out!
So it's safer for parents not to employ a male tutor for a female child that's like above 13 years.

Like my opinion at the bolded. I once told a Dad indirectly to get a Female teacher. I taught the girl in primary; later in secondary (j ss3), the Dad called but I didn't stay long. I wasn't comfortable with her again abeg.

It's better to get female teachers for 10 and above years. Cos many of the girls themselves are not very innocent on the inside.

oloyede90:
I have taught many female students in private home lessons. Girls are naughty. You must not be harsh on them, else they ll never learn what you teach. And you must not be too soft, else that take you as someone they can confide in. You just have to be professional. Deliver the lecture and leave asap

Thank you. In fact, I wouldn't recommend a male teacher to tutor girls in a private class in any case. Or maximum of just primary or Jss1.

I didn't have great moments with some girls either. The thing is I experienced something very very close to what the offender in the post had during my service year.

Just wondering what could have happened to me too if Jesus hadn't changed me on the inside before then.

The girl too was about 12 or 13 years, but looks quite older (in j ss2, looked like ss1 or 2). I think I became too soft or friendly.

Hence, from experience through the years at schools and private class, seduction (in attitudes, dressing and words) from students is very very possible. But not to justify the careless teacher falling.

I had to stop and warn the girl firmly. Thankfully, I Ended the lesson soon after that.

Thank God for His Grace upon me, I might have fallen easily if it were 10 years before.

Peace...

Hi,

I am David, an educationist (an educational manager and English language instructor). I have taught English to virtually all levels including exam candidates for over six years.

Suffice it to say, though, I haven't worked strictly as a writer/proofreader through the years; however, as a self-taught English expert with good mastery of the English language, writing or editing is just a cinch.

If it's appropriate, send me an email: davidakande05@gmail.com

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thanks.

Mindlog:
So beating children as the only means of disciplining them as you have alluded from the onset, is one of the tenets of Christianity?

You know very well you do not have the capacity to help a child when it comes to behaviour modification because anything outside flogging seems to be rocket science to you, hiding under the cover of religion.

E be like say you never meet kids with first class oppositional defiant disorder (ODD)and conduct disorder (CD) where your cane becomes useless as a means of enforcing discipline.

Better go improve yourself with personal development if you truly want to go far working with young ones, the day they would collect that cane from you is when you will realize that you have got nothing as you shouldn't be an educationist who can only function where flogging is allowed.

Children are evolving by the second, just as they are fearing less by the second.

Friend, you're still missing the point terribly. Some even got a bit off point because of one my replies to you, thinking I enforce my religious views in class so strongly...

Whereas, I focus only on what's already allowed or acceptable there: not to be a rebel there. No matter how strong my views are, I must regard the authority of the school: that's part of my religion, Following Jesus.

No where I said flogging was the only way I discipline... I did not study special or adult education. So, I don't teach such you mentioned cos I don't have the training. I think they have special schools, not to be in regular schools.

You might as well go through some of comments/replies above, if you don't mind. And perhaps you might get the actual spirit of the post.

Anyway, thanks for talking to me.

Take care.

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Hmm ...what did I say against the Christian life?

Never you link physically hitting children as a reflection of your Christian faith, it is irrational.

faithfull18:
Those talking about suspension. I guess you never taught in a private school before. Well, from experience, school management will better let your child get spoilt without doing anything than losing your child to another school in the name of discipline.

@OP, I don't have issues with you flogging. I was a stubborn child, my mom didn't spare me, she always had a cane or something to flog, I didn't like her growing up but today, she is my best friend and I don't feel physically abused/violated.

Just take it easy on flogging other people's children, today's children are very fragile. If the parents don't do their homework well and the children grow up to be bad, their parents will suffer it and unfortunately, they will use their own to disturb the rest of the society.

Nice... Thanks.

I've just modified the title. I hope some can now focus more on the long-term profit, not the temporary pain.

God bless.

I've just modified the title. I hope some can now focus more on the long-term profit, not the temporary pain.

God bless.

I've just modified the title. I hope some can now focus more on the long-term profit, not the temporary pain.

God bless.

GloriousGbola:
This here.


Maybe if ops wife was beaten up by her hindu employer and the guy came here to fire the proverb

women, children and animals are worthy of being beaten

Funny you, though. Please, if you don't mind, see my replies above. More people seem to be misplacing the spirit of the message.

Peace...

cococandy:
You sound like you mean well and with the best intentions for your class kids.
But I’ll advise you to take one thing away from this thread. And that is to stop physically hitting them in the name of discipline.
Yes it’s widely acceptable for teachers to physically discipline kids but if you’re unfortunate and something happens to one them kids in the process, those who think you did right will turn on you real quick. In the blink of an eye, you could lose everything you’ve worked for, lose your future and freedom at such a young age. And for what?

Just leave the discipline to the parents and teach the subjects you’re employed to teach.

Right, thanks. I do that with care. I once describe myself as a very friendly teacher with a stick close by. You see, I try to win them, so much that they are interested in my class.

As said, after dealing with the boy, he said, thank you, sir". He was not Willing to keep any resentment with me. Others too were trying to continue acting as if nothing happened.

I'm thinking of telling the class teacher to meet the parents. Cos I'm not a regular teacher there.

Thanks

cococandy:
This can be a hard concept for many people despite how simple it is. I try to be understanding because I know how hard it is to shed the neurological programming most of us undergo as children in the name of God. But if they can really think about it in the same terms as what if a Muslim did this to me and tried to validate it with what his God said? Would I be okay with that?
All his defense is the Bible and he didn’t for a moment consider what if these other people don’t share my faith?

You misunderstood. The person I replied made it look like that. I have never introduced that to any school (public and private). It had always been their means before getting there.

Hence, the authorities of those schools should be questioned, not me or my religion. If they didn't allow it, then I'd have had to comply. Or stop working there if they don't have better means...

Because for me as an educationist, I can't stand the pranks of some of these modern kids.

Guest what, the students themselves and the school management usually like the balance: I've had to force my way out of schools and tutorials for personal reasons, even when they were not willing to let me go.

Mindlog:
Don't apply your personal religious beliefs on another person's child. If for example I am an Atheist or an Agnostic, what right have you to use your interpretation of the Bible to discipline my child?

You can even choose to use iron rod on your biological children but should anything happen to them, don't think the Nigerian Police will spare you even if you quote from Genesis to Revelation.

Friend, see my reply above. I'm not a preacher in class.

It seems you're just looking for an opportunity to catch me somewhere. I quoted them because of you when you said something against the christian life.

All schools already had it as their means... I didn't introduce it to them. So, it's not about my religion.

cococandy:
What if the parents of the child don’t follow Bible teachings?
I can’t imagine some teacher hitting my kid and backing it up with quotes from the Koran or the Torah. Sometimes you need to understand that not everyone lives according to your personal values

No, you quoted what was directed to a person who needed to see them...

Well, I don't preach in class. Cos my job is not to preach. But I seek to live right, follow Jesus: that's better than preaching.

If I knew a parent forbids the rod, well I'll ignore the child's errors. But I hope he or she really cooperates, and not the eccentric, rude type. Otherwise, I'll continue to have problems with the child. And I might need to take the matters higher: to the school management.

I once stopped a private lesson with some pupils (forgetting my money) because the Dad said he disciplines them by himself. Someone that's not regularly at home. Your child can't be misbehaving, and you want me to be reporting to you. He wasn't just interested, maybe to escape the monthly payment or something.

Whereas, there were some others that were complaining that I was too soft on theirs: imagine.

That said, the only reason why a parent should be scared of helpful discipline is medical issues of a child. Otherwise, you get the child spoilt.

Peace...

Mindlog:
Never you link physically hitting children as a reflection of your Christian faith, it is irrational.

They are not respectful but are fearful of their Dad. When they are grown up and no longer under his control, will they still fear his "no nonsense" approach?

Have you wondered that despite many in Nigeria seeing nothing wrong in going physical with children, many have transitioned into being dysfunctional adults?

If you don't mind, consider these, friend:
Prov.23.13 - Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish him with the rod, he will not die.

Prov.13.24 - He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.

Prov.22.15 - Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him.

2Sam.7.14 - I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men:

Heb.12.10 - Our fathers disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, that we may share in his holiness.

Heb.12.11 - No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been TRAINED by it.


Anyway, you don't have to agree with my views.

Take care.

Mindlog:
If you were to be hired in a setting where you are to work with children and adolescents with behavioural disorders (ODD, CD, ADHD) and on no account should you physically hit them, how would you cope with that term of employment?

That's different friend. You see, I'm a christian, and I like to stick to rules. If it's not convenient I won't accept the offer. Or I go for the right training to fit in.

I've done private tutoring a lot. I've had parents told me that I'm too soft on their children (they want me to be beating them). It's easier to beat at school than at home. If you're not quite friendly you won't be able to help private students well (my opinion).

One Dad even ended up giving me one scary item looking like a mixture of wires. I wasn't even willing to touch it. But I think it was helping. They were quite respectful and in order at home. I would call him the no nonsense Dad.

Mindlog:
In your own words, you did some beating and you acknowledged the severity by your thread's title " Why I Had To Dish Out Some Really Disturbing Strokes To Pry 5 Pupils Today".

The key word here is disturbing, which I believe you know what it means and it incriminates you before the law, irrespective of your religious leanings.

Friend, you see, at first some students seem to get tempted to take me for granted just by my looks. Yeah, I can be as soft as a little kitten, cool and even funny sometimes.

But I have had to balance that with a stick or whip close by. In other words, I'm a very friendly teacher with a stick close by. Cos when things go wrong (like fighting, disrespect, sexual immoralities, not doing homework, etc) then I'll have to put my foot down, and I MIGHT bite a little: just to help if I can. Sometimes I'd have to ignore if it's not in my power to.

Right, disturbing, I think there are levels I use. For minor offences, I say get one or two strokes on your palm. But when you hear, "come and stand in the front of the class (it's more disturbing), lie down and get some strokes on the back". That's what I meant by disturbing.

Note, I wasn't angry nor VIOLENT in the process.


Peace...

WoundedLamb:
If the strokes are disturbing even to the aggressor himself, then I'm really worried. I didn't read anywhere where you sat the kids down to explain to them why they shouldn't be doing such things. All I read was flog, flog, flog. At à point, I had to read the title again just to ensure it's humans we're talking about here.

There's a reason the human brain is more advanced that those of other animals. Kids are extremely curious. They are very receptive of new ideas as well. Why not get to the root of the issue, block it, and engage the kids to counter whatever they had assimilated? Why do y'all ignore the capabilities of this brain to resort to treating kids like lower animals? By flogging the kids, you have said to them "don't let me catch you doing this again" but you didn't tell them why they shouldn't do it. I'm guessing you're shying away from having some an uncomfortable discussion with a kid but without that, you'd end up creating a hardened rebel.

You made reference to a certain YouTube channel to support your claim that kids who aren't flogged are worse off but you forgot we don't need any YouTube to see what the Nigerian youth has become despite the flogging. Only lazy adults that lack creativity go around flogging children like animals even at the slightest provocation.

Friend, you know what. I never claimed it's the final solution: but it's saved many who were once going astray (including me).

Oh, don't worry about the title, it's just a strict turn of phrase. I didn't brutalize him.

Guess what, the child still likes me. You know what he said immediately I released him? He said, "thank you, sir" (with a pitiable look). The whole class heard. He needs help: it was rumoured that he had issues at his former school.

I'm thinking of talking to the class teacher on meeting his parents. I am not a regular teacher there, and my time is limited.

Nevertheless, I still won't buy the no flogging rule cos even God okays it, except it gets banned here too. I hope people stop abusing it, though.

Thanks.

Mindlog:
I guess during your studies, training to be an educationist you were taught behavioural modification in children, is beating up a child for undesired behaviour part of what you were trained in?

"Weak teachers use canes as their psychological crutch".

No friend, not 'beat up'. It wasn't like a fight or wrestling. It's punishment. He knew that it was wrong.