₦airaland Forum

TheGoodJoe:
Amuneke remains my top pick but I won't run down Finidi. With time we would have had a brilliant team with him. I have no shred of doubt.

Sometimes good things require patience.

There's nothing that will wash him from the terrible job he did. Doing that in wcq again? No pr or whitewashing will be convincing cos we've NEVER extended such privileges to previous saboteurs. We roasted Oliseh for s terrible job but na Finidi we go kon pat rub? No be SE he go use do redemption. Let him do redemption elsewhere and convince us he is indeed different.

If Finidi was unlucky, abeg make we kukuma add Rohr to that subset asap o

Modern football suppose fear who tok "formation does not matter"

Will Diaz score before Osimhen in this encounter?

If we mark out that guy(put onyeka/bassey on him) he will tiring out.

If Bruno+Lookman however attack his flank well, that guy might be forced to defend for most of the game. That morrocan defense has nothing to stop Osimhen right now. I want Iwobi to shoot if he sees the chance. I expect a goal from him.


Ejuke might come in useful in the 2nd half.

TheGoodJoe:
Actually, the leak did not come from Finidi's staff but from the NFF. It was after a meeting with the NFF, that an NFF staff made a false impression about Finidi to Osimhen. So I think that is a clear misconception.

I still believe with time, we would have had a wonderful team under Finidi. His calmness was so impressive.

Calmness ke? Lars Lagerback is the calmest coach the super eagles ever had. We know how it ended. No be by calm pls o. Lol

Aside that one, his on pitch ideas and decisions were terrible ones.

With time we'll need better coaches not giving mediocrity 2nd chances, esp when we can't see any significant upgrade from that person as well.


I'll rather give Amuneke if it came down to the two

TheSuperNerd:
On this, you said all the ex-players and local coaches but I disagree. It is not exactly all.

Late Stephen Keshi was assistant manager to Jo Bonfrere at Afcon 2000 and he went on to Coach Mali, Togo (qualified them to the 2006 WC), before eventually coaching the Super Eagles.

Note that same Keshi also coached the U20 Flying Eagles in 2001 after Afcon 2000 and didnt exactly get it right. Infact that was the worst U20 set we ever paraded at an U20 Afcon but it was a genuine moulding experience for Keshi who also assisted Late Coach Amodu Shuaibu at some point.

His coaching journey will help forge his philosophy as a manager and eventually morph him into the Winning Manager he became as Super Eagles Coach. A legend forever he is and one of our greatest coaches of all time.



Another is Samson Siasia. He assisted Austin Eguavoen at some point before he would take up the reins himself later. Siasia's best coaching exploits as you already know are with Nigeria's U20 and U23 Teams.
Gold at 2005 U20 Afcon.
Silver at 2005 U20 WC.
Silver at 2008 Olympics.
Gold at 2015 U23 Afcon.
Bronze at 2016 Olympics.


Emmanuel Amuneke is another. Just like Siasia, it is not for assisting a foreign manager but at least he worked his way up and was part of the assistant crew of Nigeria's U17 side in 2013. They won the U17 World Cup after bagging Silver at the U17 Afcon.
In 2015, he was made U17 Head Coach and finished 4th at the U17 Afcon before going to conquer the world winning the U17 World Cup in Chile.

Left later on for Tanzania and qualified them for the 2019 Afcon. And the rest is history.




So I think the major exception is Stephen Keshi. He showed he learnt even though his relationship with Jo Bonfrere became strained later on.

But in a conclusion, I see your point especially when I think of Finidi under JPes. Salisu Yusuf under Rohr. Joseph Yobo under Rohr. And so forth. Now we have seen Fidelis Ilechukwu under Chelle and especially now, Daniel Ogunmodede under Eric Chelle. See ehn, na God go help us on our local heads but we do have a few good ones. Very few.

Nerdie you fes disagree but ended and said very few las las. Meaning you sha agree las las. Like 70% just wasted time and resources. Im good with all you said shaa.

I hope Dan and Fidelis go on to even better tactical relevance with their respective clubs after this tournament. High hopes on them. We need a dozen of them in the NPFL to change the league

Mujtahida:
At least Amunike won u-17 and discovered Osimhen and Chukwueze, Eguavoen gave Lookman and Bassey their first caps, Oliseh gave Iwobi his first cap but Finidi was really poor (and it pains me cos I like him)

Yeah. The rest just waste space.

Goke7:
They are all arrogant people who feel because they played the game at the highest level they can’t submit themselves to proper learning I mean an amokachi was assistant to even keshi how come he’s not even good enough to be producing the kind of results Chelle is producing. What they do mostly is to criticise the current generation of players to make it look as if no one else can be better. Honestly I am ashamed on their behalf.

They need to step up really. I wish they are progressing on that field. Even if its to influence the u17s and u20, u23 by taking the job.

I tagged 3 of you no answer sha.

Okay okay

Blueelf:
Makes me think if there's something genetically wrong with them

But you have to remember that amuneke is a bit different, a bit better . Just a bit though

They took our football back and i don't think it's the NFF's fault in this case. Those guys just don't learn and improve. They are more interested in making money from sponsorhip deals with beverage or sports bet brands

I won't absolve any of them but yeah he is different cos he even got a top job prior to being assistant.

That genetic angle is worth considering though hilarious. I'll blame nff cos they give them this slot even when the said manager doesn't want them.

Blueelf:
Senegal is experienced and the Egypt I saw tofay were lucky but went through because they were more eperienced than the Ivoirians

Senegal is the better team overall

Civ were the ones tipped to ride over Egypt but here we are. They woke up since ko started though they don't catch one's fancy


Congo played Senegal down in group stages and also played Algeria well bt Senegal and Algeria went a step ahead. We'll see sha. Senegal is more talented on pitch and bench.

PDPGuy:
Nwabali is also suspended for the semifinal.. Let’s hope that Uzoho brings his A-game on Wednesday 🙏

No he's not. I saw the team sheet. He wasn't marked as players awaiting suspension if they pickup another yellow. Only 3 were marked


Ndidi
Onyeka
Bassey

Ndidi is out so the other 2 are cleared.

Observation

Cc: Kog45, Mujtahida, Thesupernerd, Thegoodjoe

I discovered that alllllllll the ex players that ended up as assistant managers to a foreign coach(let me even add the local coaches too) usually end up showing they learnt nothing from their superiors regarding the game.


I can mention almost half a dozen and none of them even went on to get a better coaching experience, job with even the cadet teams. They just fade off into oblivion, go into punditry, or like finidi, make balderdash statements about formation not being important despite seeing all under Jpes. Even in the punditry, they still act like they archaic compared to their mates of their eras. I dunno


So why waste the spot? Or is the spot on the coaching crew simply ceremonial, like for nostalgic effect on the players in camp or what?


Where is Yobo today?


What do you guys think?

Blueelf:
It is going to be Senegal vs Nigeria in the final

It will be a really tough semifinal game cos Senegal denied Egypt wc spot that year, remember? Despite all the lasers

yinkeys:
Iwobi doesn't help us defensively though

you say? Abi na another game you watch?

That guy was helping Bruno all game now. He also dropped deep as well when he didn't need to. He is an upgrade of his Last afcon sef. Its hard for a player like Iwobi to just stop doing what they're already good at.

yinkeys:
I think Egypt will beat Senegal
I pray Nigeria beats Morocco but our eagles will face serious adversity

This tournament only came alive in the QF stage

Egypt Nigeria is also what i thought.

Omo, make they no plan better retirement for Salah o😂😂😂

Algeria didn't come to play football one bit. They were here for tricks. The PTSD if 2019 frrekick goal made many Nigerians overrate Algeria. But that was 6years ago and since then weve added muscle. They changed their formation 6times but could not breathe for the pressure sustained by Nigeria. That was unique. They could not catch a break or get some minutes to dominate any zone despite the poor distribution by Nwabali at some point in the game.

This ref was down on business and he knew they'll bring child play and he didn't disappoint. North African teams should end such history an play actual football. Egypt have left that nonsense behind sef.

Shameful it took Nigeria to remind us all that there's no active goalline tech in Afcon. Big shame.

Akor and Calvin recreating JJ dance at afcon was sweet. I however would love if they can recreate their own that a future set of SE players will recreate too one day.

The yellow cards we have are mostly from non tackles and most time wasting. Now Ndidi will miss Morocco match. I think that triggered the removal of Onyeka as well cos he will now play the Ndidi role vs Morocco. He's up to the task. He did it in the last AFCON. Osayi got even better.


Fantastic display by this resolute team.


Both gidigbo under Jpes and Sleek Football under Chelle, we have the personnel for it. Chelle making that RW absent was a bold move that paid off. I wished Chuks came on or Ejuke in the 2nd half. Both will be key subs vs Morocco IMO.

Why you so so worried🎶🎵

Joebie:
TOTT (Round of 16)

im read to see less of Lookman based on what the algerian guys may do. It's just that he's hard to man mark. Pk will definitely come from Lookman at this rate

Charles should be ashamed of what comes out of his mouth most of the time. He's one of the people that lives Nigeria the way it is and expect that since people suffered and succeeded then, the current ones should also suffer to succeed. Must it come close home before he changes such a mindset?

https://x.com/i/status/2009760892171497733


This is why i want Iwobi and Akor to gather chemistry in this particular game. The North Africans are good at this marking out star/key players with lots of fouls that refs overlook. Can't forget 2006 and 2008 Afcon.

For this game, Chukwueze or Ejuke starting will be very helpful.

They fit even leave Osimhen and Lookman and focus on Iwobi as he is the main reason our threat is this high

9JAMac10:
Can’t lie Morocco is probably our biggest threat for this trophy

I hold the pov that they're doing caf a favor by hosting a large chunk, if not all, of caf competitions. The least ROI will be to make them win one trophy.

Super falcons denied the female team that privilege. If we meet in the semis, it might end in a robbery format unless we come with a We NO GO Gree subtle approach 😆😆😆

Just saying.

MSGAMBLE9:
it's painful loss of 2 points today, can't remember Allison making a save....

The Team didn't show up at all...

All well and good then. We meuve

Roland17:
If I tell you say I no dey feel your pain, I’d be lying. This draw hurts because this ravaged Liverpool had no business playing us out of the game the way they did.

We struggled to adjust to Slot’s adjustments in the 2nd. Infact, the 2nd half was how Liverpool ended the first and should have clued us going into halftime.

But, like I said earlier, let’s take the point and focus on Forest next week.

Everything is still in front of us.

We move!

Im glad you admit this. Im simply expressing my own pai n but someone thinks it is overreacting. Some vent now, some later, some never. What else are we discussing here if not football. Spy is a kid and i won't take such disrespect from him next time. It's a faceless forum.

Roland17:
Don’t beat yourself too much. Good thing 2-4 couldn’t take advantage.

I have too. Cos of that 1-0 defeat. Twas painful. But not as painful as playing like all we wanted was to get 1point from 6. With such firepower again. If they didn't all have 3 draws each they would have made us 3rd by now. To capitalize should be a norm to us by now. Well, we meuve!!

Spy360:
You no know ball
Sharrrap

When insults are the next line of action just know you're saying something they are uncomfortable with. We discuss alot and this is what you can spin best? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Swerve abeg

Im pissed we can take 1 point from a possible 6 from Liverpool this season. That's why e dey vex me baaje.

1/6 and they grab 4/6

Spin it however you want but Arteta approach caused this. Plus he didn't even have a plan with the subs to stop that Liverpool control.

Make nobody remind me that we ar topping whatever table abeg.


1/6
😖😖😖😖

They control they no fit shoot on goal to score. But we in turn, whatever the stats show, na 0-0.

Rubbish!!!

MSGAMBLE9:
He wasn't great in the 2nd half so is the entire team except Saliba who back off forward press... We want the results but couldn't press for the ball

What you're trying to do now is soften the blame on his role by spreading it to the entire team. No need to do that. It's unnecessary. Liverpool Control happened because he was poor at his job IN THIS GAME. pls tell blueray this cos he thinks I'm hunting zubi. 😂


We were stale upfront. Dying minutes no urgency.

Watford will have dying minutes urgency and grab a goal. We act like we have no urgency.

BlueRayDick:
Which reins would Partey take?

This match clearly lacked goals and that's why we didn't win. All this cappings about Partey in match day 20 is just Nostalgia doing a number on you.

We've played matches tougher than this Loserpool match this season and we won with Same Zubi doing his midfield job. You no call Partey that time. Even matches we would normally lose when Partey was still here, we won with same Zubi o.

If the attackers had scored, you won't be forcing nonexistent blame on Zubi.

In this match Gyokeres didn't have up to 10 touches. Martinelli played rubbish, Odegaard kept running around circles and the other wingers/attackers were poor, I don't see you blaming them for the draw. It is Zubi that kept reviving ball from defenders and recycling the ball is whom u want to blame? As how now? 🤷‍♂️

Lol. Feel free. But a partey would have done way better than zubi for this game. That's that!

Let's dive to City to review when 9s are having less touches(this is not to absolve Gyo. He was a ghost tonight)

But when Haaland has few touches in a 1st half, pep changes that by ensuring his midfielders see spaces to shoot from outside. This drags away attention from his 9 that is already working to take one touch to net. One touch.

What we do is

We recycle over and over and that reduces the chances of any 9 from touching the ball UNLESS he drops deep to touch. With how we do all available 9s from Kai to whoever will drop deep. GJ will be deep already and the 9 zone is empty but he will barely get space to shoot still plus anything aerial duel is already a minus vs Dijk and konate. So what does a manager do to tweak such stalemate? Allow such continue?

Roland17:
Liverpool’s midfield performed better than ours

This wasn't hard to see all game. Yet we some prefer should just wave hand and not put blame on who deserves it. Terrible forward line aside Martinelli who still got back to defend again.

mine3112:
It is high time we start benching Victor and start playing Merino or Jesus. No positive impact so far from the guy.

Me dunno why he chose to start Gyo. Jesus should have started. But even the attack and feeding of balls was terrible tonight. So any forward will do nothing threatening to those guys. I saw 2 chances for Gabu to test Allison from distance but subconsciously, all bodies on the pitch knew the ball will go sideways. Too predictable. What makes it painful is this liverpool aren't at their best right now. So why can't we even hurt them. Controlling at our back yard is insulting.

BlueRayDick:
Partey control kor, Partey remote ni.

Zubimendi has been a clear upgrade from Partey since this season start.

Partey control won't win this game. If our attackers and wingers don't get the ball in the net, we won't win the game whether it's Partey playing or another player.

The major reason we didn't win this game was simply because our players upfront which includes Saka, Odegaard, Madueke, Martinelli and Trossard were caressing the ball in the final third when they should either be shooting or forcing a corner out of our chances. We had absolute control of the first half and didn't do anything with it.

So blaming Zubimendi for the second half when Loserpool controlled the tempo of the match is unfair and reeks of Ur bias for Partey. Nothing more.

Zubi was poor this 2nd half. Liverpool enjoyed that control because of how he played in this very game, vs Liverpool again. Feel free to disagree pls. But partey would have taken the reins off that nonsense control Liverpool had. Admit it

mostob:
If to say we win, you no go give am the credit though. Issokay.

We won vs Villa and i gave him yhe credit. Did you see that?

If we see rubbish lets call it out. Villa are more threatening than Liverpool but he suddenly grew balls to flog them and can't extend same approach to Liverpool?! Isnt that underwhelming and cowardly?