budaatum:


At least the one that supposedly spoke to Eve was Eve's mind.

Bravo!

Mr. Buda, I’m done playing the right and wrong game on here. You either learn what I know and teach me what you know as well or let’s just continue to look at each other from afar without need to antagonize.

The serpent as used in genesis is called nacash. It’s a representation of the actual thing. It’s called the shining one or the diviner. 2 Corinthians 11:3 also opens us up to realizing that it’s the mind. It was represented as serpent bc it shoots thoughts just as snake shoots its tongue. It’s also has some other representation that can be known by observing the snake that I can’t discus bc I need to give a concise reply.

It’s the mind that speaks to person and not an animal. There was nothing like Satan in the beginning, there was only the man and his helper. That story of Satan falling from before the beginning is a pagan story that Satan himself told its worshipers in his need to be exalted.

You can do a personal research in the Bible and you’ll see that the Bible is talking about the mind everytime it talks about people being deceived. It talks about the mind or the carnal people. It’s our mind that deceives is all, this is why the Holy Spirit gives us knowledge so we do not follow everything our mind tells us. Those who do not have the Holy Spirit are led away by the perception of their mind.

At the end there shall be separation as rightly said between those who live according to the perception of their mind or according to the spirit. They’re two different kinds of people.

You can read a blogpost I wrote about the situation in the link below.
https://www.davidaobooks.com/what-do-biblical-messages-represented-with-animals-mean/

Dtruthspeaker:


And we are later informed that the serpent is Satan . Revelation 12:9

"Talking donkey" remains talking donkey just as "the hills clapped their hands".

Ditto the flag! Can you not have created something different and unique and not follow-follow?

We have a right to be creative and stand by our creations.

Not just Satan is called serpent, the Pharisees were also Called serpents. Serpent isn’t a person, its the mind. those who live carnally are called serpent bc they exist in their mind. The Pharisees were called serpents bc they are carnal, Satan is also called serpent bc he’s carnal and doesn’t care about the things of God (Mathew 16:23)

budaatum:


I am not attacking you, David. This is a public forum. We talk. We are heard. We comment, and if we are intelligent beings, we exchange ideas and we learn. But if we are arrogant fuqs who insist we alone know, then what we say will be attacked, not because we are personally hated or dislike or despised, though that may be the reason of some whom one can tell by the fact that they would mostly use untoward and uncivil langauge, but also by those who know or think they know better than us.

The good thing is that we are all endowed with brains and minds we can use, and the Holy Spirit is not exclusive to some, nor can we honestly deny that which is closest to the truth unless we intend to deceive ourselves and others, which those in the Light will recognise and deal with with their God given intellect which the darkness would always fail to overcome.

You, David, will live long upon the land the Lord allots to thee, and your iron will sharpen as you sharpen the iron of others so we all may have sharp irons.

Thank you for your kind comment. I was already getting tired of the consistent attacks. I know my ideas and views are not what’s usually seen but I’ll appreciate a fair assessment of my articles.

Maybe I overstepped in my first way I answered you and your friend Lordreed. I’m sorry to you guys. It might be a reaction from the constant negativity I have faced from different platforms when I try to pitch my unconventional ideas.

Ofcourse I really want to share and see others polish my points even better. I do not really appreciate a judgement when I see the person didn’t even understand why’s point made. This is probably why my reaction was a bit stern in the first time.

So far it’s just only Dtruthspeaker who’s critically assessed my posts and has been able to teach me something. I do want to learn from all of you, I do not think I know it all. Yes, I may have acted pompous but you have to acknowledge that even the Bible says knowledge is pompous and this is why we all need wisdom to control our knowledge.

I’m sorry again and thank you for extending a hand of truce. Relay the information to your dear friend also pls and let’s all get to know each other on here.

budaatum:


You believe this at your peril!

"So God created man in his own image", clearly says the Word, "in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them", and not one to rule over the other! And note they were not called Adam and Eve, the products of a later creation!

But first must you seek to understand who wrote the Word, and then shall your eyes open to an understanding.

There is a clue in the fact that Eve must have known that life comes from between her legs, while that stupid Adam thought she was his rib that jumped out while he was in deep sleep, which must have been the like being ignorant, and which he very clearly was!

Mr buda, how are you and how’s your day going? I’m sorry if we started off wrongly but we can look past this and you should stop your incessant attacks at me pls. I just want to share on here and I suppose you want that too. I do not know anything, I’m a foolish and ignorant man who was pompous in our first meeting. I’m sorry and I’ll like you to move past this so that you and I can truly share knowledge on this site. Think about it pls, I hope to hear a positive reply from you soon.

Dtruthspeaker:


Good observation! And this is Naturally explained by the fact that we men have experienced.

We see that we grew and had yearnings for the woman and until this desire is met, we are not fully happy. Thus the Gift of a woman is A Mighty Big Gift.

That is what Adam experienced after years of loneliness and therefore, because of desire and yearnings towards the woman, Eve held sway.

Which is what you see when God was giving judgement "because thou hath hearkened to the voice of thy wife" (And not hearkened to my Voice!)

Brother, I love the way you dissect my posts, it shows you’re aware. God bless you, may you receive more of Christ. May you receive more of his wisdom and know him more. Amen.

Gullah:
Of what relevance is this your opinion to the Christian body now apart from starting an irrelevant and unprofitable argument?

Thank you for your concern, I really do appreciate. I do not come on here to argue. I’m just teachings what I know. If we understand what happened before, then we can understand the reason for the fall and the events afterwards.

A lot of attention is usually placed on the events after Man had eaten the fruit but not much thoughts is given to events before the fruit. The only popular thing talked about in the events before the fall is the snake and its identity.

There are so many deeper revelations in the garden and as a person continues studying, they’ll start to see these mysteries. Among the deeper events of the garden is the question if Eve actually led Adam before the fall.

I do have an understanding of this event but I’ll try to open things up so that anyone can realize the truth on their own account.

So, Eve was said to be the helper of Adam. Although we might not fully understand what that means but we can actually know it by recognizing that the Holy Spirit is also the helper of mankind.

The purpose of the helper is to comfort us, strengthen us, lead and teach us to walk in the way. Therefore, Eve would have played the same role for Adam in the beginning. This would of course explain why Adam faulted Eve, because it’s logical for Adam to accept the fruit if given to eat by his leader.

A defining moment of this event was when God punished Eve for what happened. Among the punishment is that the husband shall lead her and her desires shall be to him. Why will that be a punishment unless the reverse is the case before they ate the fruit?

The reality of man changed, he was clothed and he started to see differently. Being aware of things he was previously unaware of. His reality was reversed and he saw differently from how he saw before he ate.

The reality never changed for God. God still made the younger lead the older even though man preferred the older to lead the younger. Examples of situations where the younger was chosen over the older is Abel and Cain, Isaac and Ishmael, Jacob and Esau, Ephraim and Manasseh, Moses and Aaron, etc. if we keep reading, we’ll realize that the younger was always chosen above the older.

This is the reality for God, the younger is made more beautiful so he has to lead as opposed to man’s way of having the old lead the young.

Looking at this and several other clues in the events of the garden, a person might realize that Eve led the man in the garden and their leadership situation was reversed after their reality had reversed.

Written by: David A.O., author of the science of God and life.
www.davidaobooks.com

Dear readers don’t attack each other on this thread pls. It’s a thread that needs us all to appreciate and help each other understand the Bible better pls. Let’s not let the poison of logic and need to be the judge over others destroy our opportunity to learn. Christ’s blessings.

BassReeves:
Calling anyone a fool isnt necessarily trying to be insulting or give offense, but is just a statement of fact arrived at from being observational

As it happens almost anyone will know that tomatoes by virtue of knowing they have seeds is a fruit, but where a wise person doesnt put it in a fruit bowl or in fruit salad, a fool from wrongly applying knowledge will put tomato in a fruit bowl or in fruit salad, simply from not making a right decision that follows and adheres to the rules of etiquette and so becomes a fool from doing a foolish thing i.e. poor judgment, wrong decision made.

You’re right again. Poor judgement makes us foolish at certain points in time. We all have had this moments but the one who’s never going to come out of this position is he who blatantly, and continues to reject that God exists.

This question doesn’t look like what a sane mind should ever ask, but as life goes, we’ll all realize that that which we call insane is usually the sane thing do or say and vice versa.

Life itself is very intricate and most things that reveal the delicate parts of life usually sound insane to the ordinary mind. For this reason, Jesus was labeled insane even by members of his own family.

Similarly, many prophets in the books were one time called insane. If John the Baptist were to be viewed objectively, we’d all conclude he was insane. One of my favorite part of the Bible is where Festus called apostle Paul insane because of the information he was giving. Acts 26:24

Yet, a person who has come to the full understanding of their messages cannot say such people were insane, such comment can only be made by a mind that hasn’t gained that understanding.

That said, there’s something quite mysterious in the Bible that no one can realize unless they’re helped by the Holy Spirit. In fact, some have to be helped by his presence in other people to realize this mystery.

It’s whether or not God has finished creating. An ordinary minded person will surely say: yes, God has finished creating, it’s boldly written in genesis. Yet, it’s also boldly written that he who believes in Jesus is a new creation.

This births the question: did God go back to creating after he finished? Did God Stop resting after he finished his works? Did Man’s fall make God go back to creating? Even so, did God not see man’s fall before it happened? Did the man outsmart God?

These questions are important for us to realize what the Bible is actually saying. Here’s the beauty of it all. This is the time of the creation, God has not finished the creation. The man did not outsmart God, ‘the man’ is foolish and God is wiser than him.

This reveals the phenomena “inverse reality” and “reverse-time existence”. This is to say the same (actual) time that everything was created is what we’re living in the reverse and such, the reality we experience is an inversion of the reality. As such, we’re coming from our Past, and heading to the Present. We think we’re already fully Present and headed to the future. Yet, the future is just like a mirage in time.

So technically, the creation has not ended, we’re existing in the creation and all that which is created shall be revealed at the end. After which, God shall observe the rest, which is the 1000 years of inactivity on earth.

The phenomenal reverse-time existence of this world and its inverse reality cannot be fully discussed on this thread as that will entail an explanation and diagrams that might be too much for nairaland, but a person who lays their hand on a copy of the science of God and life will have to decide for themselves if the idea is insane or sane.

Such person will understand why the Bible says the reality is only seen in the mirror (1 Corinthians 13:12). They’ll also understand why Paul says we must become foolish to be wise, and why the Bible says the fool will say in his heart that God doesn’t exist.

If we look around us today, we’ll realize that those who the Bible calls fools are the wise men of this world. Among such earthly esteemed fools are Buddha and Alberta Einstein. No one can fully understand why these were called fools until they understand inverse reality as discussed with a scientific interpretation.

Thanks for reading. I hope you’ve gained something. Here’s a link to the science of God and life for anyone interested.
https://www.davidaobooks.com/product/the-science-of-god-and-life/

BassReeves:
Those who the Bible calls fools are the wise men of this world and the reason why these were called fools is because they use only sense knowledge rather than incorporate sense knowledge with revelation knowledge. They are wise men/women of the world i.e. secular things, but not wise men/women in the spirituality(ies)

When knowledge is incorrectly used, misused, abused or disused then one becomes a fool, out of not making good judgment, good conclusion, good use, good application, good decision making from available, obtainable and accessible knowledge

You’re very correct brother. The fool is sensually minded and his wits is within the walls of this world. Such a person’s mind deceived them because the mind cannot grasp what’s before (creation) and after it (death). I think I discussed the weakness of the mind in one of my threads. Check it out pls.

A fool is he whose mind has deceived, the first thing it tells them is that God doesn’t exist. When that happens, such person makes himself god, and starts making decisions of life with their limited (or faulty) perception of the reality.

Has the seven days of creation ended?

This question doesn’t look like what a sane mind should ever ask, but as life goes, we’ll all realize that that which we call insane is usually the sane thing do or say and vice versa.

Life itself is very intricate and most things that reveal the delicate parts of life usually sound insane to the ordinary mind. For this reason, Jesus was labeled insane even by members of his own family.

Similarly, many prophets in the books were one time called insane. If John the Baptist were to be viewed objectively, we’d all conclude he was insane. One of my favorite part of the Bible is where Festus called apostle Paul insane because of the information he was giving. Acts 26:24

Yet, a person who has come to the full understanding of their messages cannot say such people were insane, such comment can only be made by a mind that hasn’t gained that understanding.

That said, there’s something quite mysterious in the Bible that no one can realize unless they’re helped by the Holy Spirit. In fact, some have to be helped by his presence in other people to realize this mystery.

It’s whether or not God has finished creating. An ordinary minded person will surely say: yes, God has finished creating, it’s boldly written in genesis. Yet, it’s also boldly written that he who believes in Jesus is a new creation.

This births the question: did God go back to creating after he finished? Did God Stop resting after he finished his works? Did Man’s fall make God go back to creating? Even so, did God not see man’s fall before it happened? Did the man outsmart God?

These questions are important for us to realize what the Bible is actually saying. Here’s the beauty of it all. This is the time of the creation, God has not finished the creation. The man did not outsmart God, ‘the man’ is foolish and God is wiser than him.

This reveals the phenomena “inverse reality” and “reverse-time existence”. This is to say the same (actual) time that everything was created is what we’re living in the reverse and such, the reality we experience is an inversion of the reality. As such, we’re coming from our Past, and heading to the Present. We think we’re already fully Present and headed to the future. Yet, the future is just like a mirage in time.

So technically, the creation has not ended, we’re existing in the creation and all that which is created shall be revealed at the end. After which, God shall observe the rest, which is the 1000 years of inactivity on earth.

The phenomenal reverse-time existence of this world and its inverse reality cannot be fully discussed on this thread as that will entail an explanation and diagrams that might be too much for nairaland, but a person who lays their hand on a copy of the science of God and life will have to decide for themselves if the idea is insane or sane.

Such person will understand why the Bible says the reality is only seen in the mirror (1 Corinthians 13:12). They’ll also understand why Paul says we must become foolish to be wise, and why the Bible says the fool will say in his heart that God doesn’t exist.

If we look around us today, we’ll realize that those who the Bible calls fools are the wise men of this world. Among such earthly esteemed fools are Buddha and Alberta Einstein. No one can fully understand why these were called fools until they understand inverse reality as discussed with a scientific interpretation.

Thanks for reading. I hope you’ve gained something. Here’s a link to the science of God and life for anyone interested.
https://www.davidaobooks.com/product/the-science-of-god-and-life/

This question doesn’t look like what a sane mind should ever ask, but as life goes, we’ll all realize that that which we call insane is usually the sane thing do or say and vice versa.

Life itself is very intricate and most things that reveal the delicate parts of life usually sound insane to the ordinary mind. For this reason, Jesus was labeled insane even by members of his own family.

Similarly, many prophets in the books were one time called insane. If John the Baptist were to be viewed objectively, we’d all conclude he was insane. One of my favorite part of the Bible is where Festus called apostle Paul insane because of the information he was giving. Acts 26:24

Yet, a person who has come to the full understanding of their messages cannot say such people were insane, such comment can only be made by a mind that hasn’t gained that understanding.

That said, there’s something quite mysterious in the Bible that no one can realize unless they’re helped by the Holy Spirit. In fact, some have to be helped by his presence in other people to realize this mystery.

It’s whether or not God has finished creating. An ordinary minded person will surely say: yes, God has finished creating, it’s boldly written in genesis. Yet, it’s also boldly written that he who believes in Jesus is a new creation.

This births the question: did God go back to creating after he finished? Did God Stop resting after he finished his works? Did Man’s fall make God go back to creating? Even so, did God not see man’s fall before it happened? Did the man outsmart God?

These questions are important for us to realize what the Bible is actually saying. Here’s the beauty of it all. This is the time of the creation, God has not finished the creation. The man did not outsmart God, ‘the man’ is foolish and God is wiser than him.

This reveals the phenomena “inverse reality” and “reverse-time existence”. This is to say the same (actual) time that everything was created is what we’re living in the reverse and such, the reality we experience is an inversion of the reality. As such, we’re coming from our Past, and heading to the Present. We think we’re already fully Present and headed to the future. Yet, the future is just like a mirage in time.

So technically, the creation has not ended, we’re existing in the creation and all that which is created shall be revealed at the end. After which, God shall observe the rest, which is the 1000 years of inactivity on earth.

The phenomenal reverse-time existence of this world and its inverse reality cannot be fully discussed on this thread as that will entail an explanation and diagrams that might be too much for nairaland, but a person who lays their hand on a copy of the science of God and life will have to decide for themselves if the idea is insane or sane.

Such person will understand why the Bible says the reality is only seen in the mirror (1 Corinthians 13:12). They’ll also understand why Paul says we must become foolish to be wise, and why the Bible says the fool will say in his heart that God doesn’t exist.

If we look around us today, we’ll realize that those who the Bible calls fools are the wise men of this world. Among such earthly esteemed fools are Buddha and Alberta Einstein. No one can fully understand why these were called fools until they understand inverse reality as discussed with a scientific interpretation.

Thanks for reading. I hope you’ve gained something. Here’s a link to the science of God and life for anyone interested.
https://www.davidaobooks.com/product/the-science-of-god-and-life/

rafikii:
David A.O's book already has some core flaws, I pity the few who would read it and accept everything it says.

Interesting, what led to this assertion? I’ll like to learn that. There’s nothing as interesting as learning one’s own flaws. That’s like the only thing man can’t do and needs to accept help to be able to do that.

Btw, I do not expect everyone to accept everything I say. I think that’s the actual beauty of speaking the truth. The truth does not force anyone, neither does it cajole anyone. The truth speaks and a person will be the author of their own decision to accept or reject.

If forcing everyone to accept our word or ideas was the way, Jesus could have suffocated all of us. Yet, he doesn’t and so we realize that Truth does not reside anywhere force, war, fighting, killing, and maiming is involved

Has the seven (7) days of creation ended?


This question doesn’t look like what a sane mind should ever ask, but as life goes, we’ll all realize that that which we call insane is usually the sane thing do or say and vice versa.

Life itself is very intricate and most things that reveal the delicate parts of life usually sound insane to the ordinary mind. For this reason, Jesus was labeled insane even by members of his own family.

Similarly, many prophets in the books were one time called insane. If John the Baptist were to be viewed objectively, we’d all conclude he was insane. One of my favorite part of the Bible is where Festus called apostle Paul insane because of the information he was giving. Acts 26:24

Yet, a person who has come to the full understanding of their messages cannot say such people were insane, such comment can only be made by a mind that hasn’t gained that understanding.

That said, there’s something quite mysterious in the Bible that no one can realize unless they’re helped by the Holy Spirit. In fact, some have to be helped by his presence in other people to realize this mystery.

It’s whether or not God has finished creating. An ordinary minded person will surely say: yes, God has finished creating, it’s boldly written in genesis. Yet, it’s also boldly written that he who believes in Jesus is a new creation.

This births the question: did God go back to creating after he finished? Did God Stop resting after he finished his works? Did Man’s fall make God go back to creating? Even so, did God not see man’s fall before it happened? Did the man outsmart God?

These questions are important for us to realize what the Bible is actually saying. Here’s the beauty of it all. This is the time of the creation, God has not finished the creation. The man did not outsmart God, ‘the man’ is foolish and God is wiser than him.

This reveals the phenomena “inverse reality” and “reverse-time existence”. This is to say the same (actual) time that everything was created is what we’re living in the reverse and such, the reality we experience is an inversion of the reality. As such, we’re coming from our Past, and heading to the Present. We think we’re already fully Present and headed to the future. Yet, the future is just like a mirage in time.

So technically, the creation has not ended, we’re existing in the creation and all that which is created shall be revealed at the end. After which, God shall observe the rest, which is the 1000 years of inactivity on earth.

The phenomenal reverse-time existence of this world and its inverse reality cannot be fully discussed on this thread as that will entail an explanation and diagrams that might be too much for nairaland, but a person who lays their hand on a copy of the science of God and life will have to decide for themselves if the idea is insane or sane.

Such person will understand why the Bible says the reality is only seen in the mirror (1 Corinthians 13:12). They’ll also understand why Paul says we must become foolish to be wise, and why the Bible says the fool will say in his heart that God doesn’t exist.

If we look around us today, we’ll realize that those who the Bible calls fools are the wise men of this world. Among such earthly esteemed fools are Buddha and Alberta Einstein. No one can fully understand why these were called fools until they understand inverse reality as discussed with a scientific interpretation.

Thanks for reading. I hope you’ve gained something. Here’s a link to the science of God and life for anyone interested.
https://www.davidaobooks.com/product/the-science-of-god-and-life/

This question doesn’t look like what a sane mind should ever ask, but as life goes, we’ll all realize that that which we call insane is usually the sane thing do or say and vice versa.

Life itself is very intricate and most things that reveal the delicate parts of life usually sound insane to the ordinary mind. For this reason, Jesus was labeled insane even by members of his own family.

Similarly, many prophets in the books were one time called insane. If John the Baptist were to be viewed objectively, we’d all conclude he was insane. One of my favorite part of the Bible is where Festus called apostle Paul insane because of the information he was giving. Acts 26:24

Yet, a person who has come to the full understanding of their messages cannot say such people were insane, such comment can only be made by a mind that hasn’t gained that understanding.

That said, there’s something quite mysterious in the Bible that no one can realize unless they’re helped by the Holy Spirit. In fact, some have to be helped by his presence in other people to realize this mystery.

It’s whether or not God has finished creating. An ordinary minded person will surely say: yes, God has finished creating, it’s boldly written in genesis. Yet, it’s also boldly written that he who believes in Jesus is a new creation.

This births the question: did God go back to creating after he finished? Did God Stop resting after he finished his works? Did Man’s fall make God go back to creating? Even so, did God not see man’s fall before it happened? Did the man outsmart God?

These questions are important for us to realize what the Bible is actually saying. Here’s the beauty of it all. This is the time of the creation, God has not finished the creation. The man did not outsmart God, ‘the man’ is foolish and God is wiser than him.

This reveals the phenomena “inverse reality” and “reverse-time existence”. This is to say the same (actual) time that everything was created is what we’re living in the reverse and such, the reality we experience is an inversion of the reality. As such, we’re coming from our Past, and heading to the Present. We think we’re already fully Present and headed to the future. Yet, the future is just like a mirage in time.

So technically, the creation has not ended, we’re existing in the creation and all that which is created shall be revealed at the end. After which, God shall observe the rest, which is the 1000 years of inactivity on earth.

The phenomenal reverse-time existence of this world and its inverse reality cannot be fully discussed on this thread as that will entail an explanation and diagrams that might be too much for nairaland, but a person who lays their hand on a copy of the science of God and life will have to decide for themselves if the idea is insane or sane.

Such person will understand why the Bible says the reality is only seen in the mirror (1 Corinthians 13:12). They’ll also understand why Paul says we must become foolish to be wise, and why the Bible says the fool will say in his heart that God doesn’t exist.

If we look around us today, we’ll realize that those who the Bible calls fools are the wise men of this world. Among such earthly esteemed fools are Buddha and Alberta Einstein. No one can fully understand why these were called fools until they understand inverse reality as discussed with a scientific interpretation.

Thanks for reading. I hope you’ve gained something. Here’s a link to the science of God and life for anyone interested.
https://www.davidaobooks.com/product/the-science-of-god-and-life/

Princewell2012:



Don't be surprised he is a Fulani man, just doing copy and paste.

This is hilarious I must say.

Tobechuckwu:


Have u forgotten that the early Christians preached against the order of the land?
Have u forgotten that when they were arrested Peter said either to listened to the leader or God they will choose?
Do u know how many times they were arrested nd beaten bcuz they preached the gospel?
What u don't know, please don't argue about it.

The protest against the government for your Hod or for yourself? I think if you need to protest for God then you should protest against pastors who twist the books for the own belly and weaponize religion for psychomental manipulation.

Obey the government and focus on Christ brother. This life is already gone, there’s no point protesting for it to be better. There’s no natural law that supports protest.

jclassiq:


Oga the oppression you keep referring to is oppression because of the gospel of Christ. The type of oppression we are suffering here is a different type of oppression and apostle did not teach us to be cowards -- to be docile when your rightful possession is being denied you due to wickedness.

It says, since the days of John the baptist the kingdom of heaven suffers violence and the violent take it by force.

Even Jesus himself was not a coward.

The fact that one speaks truth to authority doesn't mean the same thing as disobedience. Otherwise how else is the authority going to realize that they are not on the right track if everyone keeps queit and suffers in silence?

Nawao

“The violent takes it by force”

Are you a violent person? Is your gospel that of violence or peace?

patosky22:
Being a Christian or not , we are suffering from injustice and nepotism... Christian are b persecuted and u are here saying protest is for non Christian

Where in the post did I mention that protest is non Christian? I only said protest is not a character of the believer.

savwell:

Shedrack Mishack and Abadinego protested against King Nebuchadnezzar in the bible in case you have lost count so don't come here and deceive people with your myopic mind set

Are you a follower of these people or that of Jesus?

Series2020:
Hello,I wouldn't av joined this debate epistle by the xtian on nairaland but i av to due sentences I saw about truth concede by the Muslim.in all ramification on a serious and well practice Muslim,it is forbidden to wage protest,revolt or demonstrate against an injustice leader either been a Muslim or xtian except with one condition,also inciting the public for participations on protest is also against teaching of Islam for those who are well known
The prophet say if any of you seen any bad act from an oppressor or injustice leader,he / she should privately called his attention,is he heard that's good of him and he don't the person already done his own part or responsibility.don't be deceived by peaceful protest,it's only written on paper but cannot be practice practically,there is no leader in the world that is perfect,he /she has many lapses and flaw,if given the opportunity to lead this country,you done worst than the current leader,either pastor or imam,.e.g Floyd George protest and capitol in US is an example peaceful protest,which was later became riot and property destroy,there is nothing like peaceful protest in reality.ENDs SARs is another example in our country which was hijacked by the arsonist and hoodlums,we haven't recover from that till now.every prices goods and services has sky rocketing day by day,let pray for a well betterment of our dear country and pray GOD should guide our leaders right.
This simple question is for those who want the president to leave office
1)supposedly is ur father/uncle was in office in these situation,will you be happy with is remover as a leader
2)will you allow a country/leadership to be separate or disintegrate during ur tenure as a leadership.for those agitating for break up
3)do you think seperatist come peacefully without shady many bloods
4)do you think has a leader,you can satisfy every citizen of ur country,even if given every citizen #1m every month,they will still criticize you.e.g Libya,pls av it mind that you can never satisfy every body.

Quote;I never support the act of injustice and hypocrite by our leader,but let us change and been a good servant to God,he will select a good leader among us,our leaders and representative are all Nigeria and known in our state,but they ignore our dividend of benefit as a citizen .let pray for Nigeria.
Thanks

That which is substantial is seen in you. Congratulations brother. Live well and enjoy what life truly means. Celebrate the worst days even as you celebrate the good ones to the glory of God in Christ. Continue to go through it all phases of life, knowing that you’re being built for patience. I’m happy for you.

Also, I’ll ask you to visit my website and try to get my latest book if you can. I think you’ll find it more than interesting. It’s titled science of God and life

TundRash:


Claps for you.
But I hope you didn't praise Buhari when he lead the protest before he came to power. That would be hypocritical.

I never knew Christ by that time and the same thing applies to him too. Protest is a satanic manifestation. It isn’t according to the knowledge of the truth. A person with knowledge do thing with peace but an ignorant person will act with agitations and violence.

Government everywhere is the same, the world itself is just one reality so incessant protests are never going to affect much so why do it?

I also took a cue from Jesus and the disciples and they obeyed even unto death, can people of today do that?

CodeTemplar:

Government is formed by people and accountable to the people but empowered conditionally above the people. If the govt derails, its dormers or founders or owners - the people, can call it to order via a protest. I speak as a man.

I appreciate your last quote brother, you’re a wise man. Yes you speak as a man, but we should endeavor not to speak as a man but speak as Jesus would.

The government being to the people and the people being the ones with powers. That’s democracy right? That’s an unrealistic system of government. Look around you, do the people truly have powers? The people have never had powers. Even in USA where the system of government is predominant, the people do not have any power.

The power is dangled in front of people like mirage but never do they have it.

Lastly, if we understand that this place is not the actual place, why then do we fight for this place? Do you not understand that the fate of this world is already known? Why don’t you just live your life in peace, grow in the knowledge of the truth and wait for the day you’re called to rest?

Majesty33:
Something tells me that this is writrr, is a Jevovah's witness devotee. Their teaching looks so bias and they somehow misquote the bible and exclude themselves from things affecting the nation. This singular act annoys me about their teaching and believe.

I’m not excluding myself. The nation affects us all. I just understand that this world is already destroyed from the beginning. I understand that my existence in this reality is only ephemeral so why should I fight for anything? Brother, if truly you deserve anything, you’ll never fight for it. Those who fight for things are undeserving of such things.

Learn from your father in heaven, he deserves your worship but he doesn’t fight for it, he wants you to realize it and give that worship to him. I love Nigerians and I’ll like to see things get better for us all, yet I understand the harvest environment create the best species. We are a people being created.

senchibi:

Forget your useless grama ---- lets ask ourselves what is peaceful demonstration ? It's to openly criticize and make your voice heard by the leaders who lead but not with example. They say something else and do something else. I.e. They make laws that they don't follow. The Bible is littered with prophets and even Jesus publicly speaking against the government and leaders. I.e .
Matthew 23 :1 -Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:

2 The Pharisees and the teachers of the Law are experts in the Law of Moses. 3 So obey everything they teach you, but don’t do as they do. After all, they say one thing and do something else..
16 You are in for trouble! You are supposed to lead others, but you are blind. You teach that it doesn’t matter if a person swears by the temple. But you say that it does matter if someone swears by the gold in the temple. 17 (((You blind fools! )))Which is greater, the gold or the temple that makes the gold sacred? .
---------If Jesus was in our time. He'll be out there with DJ switch. Holding a loud microphone and telling the crowd that he is disappointed by this government.
You claim to be a Bible teacher but you are half baked. Note : the Pharisees weren't just religious leaders ( like popes ) they were the political leaders too in ancient Israel. They make the laws and are custodian of the law.
I'll reply more. Just wait and learn.

Hello, thank you for taking your time to write an heart felt reply. Yet, I must checkmate some of the things you’ve mentioned not bc I play down your opinion but bc I do want to share that which I have with you to help you stand firmer in the word.

I think it’s not well thought for you to compare Jesus to DJ switch. You didn’t give that part much of a thought, so I need you to refocus on that part. You cannot possibly compare a man who acted based on the knowledge and consciousness of the world and time to a lady who only acted on anger. The energy behind each person is different and so will the direction of action be different.

Jesus faced oppression and was silent in the face of opposition and was bold till the end, not fearing life bc he understood that energy could never be destroyed by anyone. You compare him to a lady who run off bc there was threat on her life? No, that’s not well thought ok?

I suppose you can give it more thought and arrive at a better opine. I know you appreciate what the lady as down and you’re impressed by her perceived heroics, that should cloud your judgment pls.

Also, it’s important that you know that the Pharisee never made any law. They enforced the law given to Moses by unknown angels according to acts 7:53. They enforce it and twist it for their favor. Jesus was attacking a higher power than the pharisee.

Lastly, do not judge yourself by your own standards, judge yourself according to Christ standards and that created by the disciples

duro4chang:
As a Christian I have not seen any place in the bible that says you should not condemn evil. Infact, it is a sin to see evil and keep quiet. I used the issue of fox to show you that when n Herod the king(political leaders) was doing the wrong thing Jesus spoke out against his act. In as much as you don't destroy lives and property, nothing wrong in protecting. You and I are in this country and we know what is going on. If not because of some christians that are talking loudly Christianity have been abolished God forbid. If you don't agree with me please don't bother to quote me again

Like I said you have to make the clarification that the Jesus you’re serving isn’t the same Jesus in the Bible before I accept your disposition. You also have to clarify that the apostles have a different gospel from the one you preach or that’s being preached to you.

Until you do that, I’ll take it that you’re being disobedient to the word and also making yourself judge over situations of life. Where did you see any of the apostles protesting bad government or their killings in the Bible?

By the way nothing is happening to Christianity, it’s just your reality that’s making it look like it’s affecting it. Even so, what good has Christianity done to the everyday man that makes its abolishing bad for us? Virtually nothing, and it has impoverished more people by aggregating their wealth to a few.

Christian pastors and politicians are in bed together so I do not see anyway that Christianity will be abolished. The hormonal rush you have thinking that Christianity will someday be abolished is a false alarm created by the messages you’ve been receiving.

Be like Christ brother. Obey till death and let God fight for you. Bible never said complain what someone does evil to you. Instead it says turn the other cheek when you’re slapped, OT that you should bless them that curse you. Bible said talk when someone commits sin. Two different things, you’ve only manipulated it again.

Lastly, I do not think I have to agree with you, I can only agree with the Holy Spirit which of course is not you is it?

If anyone asks me this question, then I might need to first ask them to define supernatural. What makes something supernatural? And when do we draw the line between natural and supernatural?

Linguistically, the term supernatural means above or beyond the natural. So when we say a thing is supernatural, we’re saying that that thing is beyond the natural.

Personally, I’ll say a thing that’s beyond the natural does not exist because nature itself is the essence of existence. Therefore, whatever is said to be supernatural will be above nature or completely outside nature. That thing does not exist. Nothing is beyond the essence of existence.

While this sounds like the popular view, I do have some objection to the popular view. I think the popular view on this matter holds to manipulate language with semantics and create a false reality as to what supernatural means.

When you ask someone what’s supernatural, they’d gladly say God is supernatural. When you probe further, they’d certainly bump on a spot where they’ll confess that they think God is supernatural because they cannot perceive him.

This gives us the understanding that the definition of supernatural has nothing to do with nature for most, it’s has everything to do with their perception. Therefore, people say God is supernatural because they think they cannot perceive God.

Whereas everything used to define God is natural. God is said to be light, love, true, wise etc, all these things are just natural so it really baffles me why anyone will say God is supernatural.

So the question might be: does the fact that we can’t see God makes God supernatural? If so, do we also say energy is supernatural? Do we say forces are supernatural? These are things that we do not perceive yet determine the reality, how then should the reality be limited to perception?

Let’s look at life, nature is the essence of life. Do we say a person is supernatural because we can’t see the essence in them? The essence is what life actually is. It’s that which makes the difference between the living and the dead. A body without the essence is dead and decays while a body with the essence is alive and living.

Since essence which determines the reality of a person is beyond perception, can we then say everyone alive is supernatural? This will be ridiculous to the ear and so does the idea that supernatural exist sound ridiculous to my ear. Everything is within nature, we’re only existing within our level in nature.

As a person, I do not believe anything is supernatural. In fact I think the term supernatural is a figment of the deliberately shallow human mind. No one can truly know life unless they first accept that life transcends that which is seen.

In my book the science of God and life, I scientifically proved why an angel is just a natural Being after I encountered one. People who have read the book have had a different understanding of what life and nature so I guess it’s substantial enough for anyone. In fact, the editor said that’s her favorite topic of the book and thanked me for helping her understand life beyond her perception.

Nothing is supernatural, everything is with in nature.

Written by: David A.O., author of the science of God and life. www.davidaobooks.com

Does the supernatural truly exist?

If anyone asks me this question, then I might need to first ask them to define supernatural. What makes something supernatural? And when do we draw the line between natural and supernatural?

Linguistically, the term supernatural means above or beyond the natural. So when we say a thing is supernatural, we’re saying that that thing is beyond the natural.

Personally, I’ll say a thing that’s beyond the natural does not exist because nature itself is the essence of existence. Therefore, whatever is said to be supernatural will be above nature or completely outside nature. That thing does not exist. Nothing is beyond the essence of existence.

While this sounds like the popular view, I do have some objection to the popular view. I think the popular view on this matter holds to manipulate language with semantics and create a false reality as to what supernatural means.

When you ask someone what’s supernatural, they’d gladly say God is supernatural. When you probe further, they’d certainly bump on a spot where they’ll confess that they think God is supernatural because they cannot perceive him.

This gives us the understanding that the definition of supernatural has nothing to do with nature for most, it’s has everything to do with their perception. Therefore, people say God is supernatural because they think they cannot perceive God.

Whereas everything used to define God is natural. God is said to be light, love, true, wise etc, all these things are just natural so it really baffles me why anyone will say God is supernatural.

So the question might be: does the fact that we can’t see God makes God supernatural? If so, do we also say energy is supernatural? Do we say forces are supernatural? These are things that we do not perceive yet determine the reality, how then should the reality be limited to perception?

Let’s look at life, nature is the essence of life. Do we say a person is supernatural because we can’t see the essence in them? The essence is what life actually is. It’s that which makes the difference between the living and the dead. A body without the essence is dead and decays while a body with the essence is alive and living.

Since essence which determines the reality of a person is beyond perception, can we then say everyone alive is supernatural? This will be ridiculous to the ear and so does the idea that supernatural exist sound ridiculous to my ear. Everything is within nature, we’re only existing within our level in nature.

As a person, I do not believe anything is supernatural. In fact I think the term supernatural is a figment of the deliberately shallow human mind. No one can truly know life unless they first accept that life transcends that which is seen.

In my book the science of God and life, I scientifically proved why an angel is just a natural Being after I encountered one. People who have read the book have had a different understanding of what life and nature so I guess it’s substantial enough for anyone. In fact, the editor said that’s her favorite topic of the book and thanked me for helping her understand life beyond her perception.

Nothing is supernatural, everything is with in nature.

Written by: David A.O., author of the science of God and life. www.davidaobooks.com

If anyone asks me this question, then I might need to first ask them to define supernatural. What makes something supernatural? And when do we draw the line between natural and supernatural?

Linguistically, the term supernatural means above or beyond the natural. So when we say a thing is supernatural, we’re saying that that thing is beyond the natural.

Personally, I’ll say a thing that’s beyond the natural does not exist because nature itself is the essence of existence. Therefore, whatever is said to be supernatural will be above nature or completely outside nature. That thing does not exist. Nothing is beyond the essence of existence.

While this sounds like the popular view, I do have some objection to the popular view. I think the popular view on this matter holds to manipulate language with semantics and create a false reality as to what supernatural means.

When you ask someone what’s supernatural, they’d gladly say God is supernatural. When you probe further, they’d certainly bump on a spot where they’ll confess that they think God is supernatural because they cannot perceive him.

This gives us the understanding that the definition of supernatural has nothing to do with nature for most, it’s has everything to do with their perception. Therefore, people say God is supernatural because they think they cannot perceive God.

Whereas everything used to define God is natural. God is said to be light, love, true, wise etc, all these things are just natural so it really baffles me why anyone will say God is supernatural.

So the question might be: does the fact that we can’t see God makes God supernatural? If so, do we also say energy is supernatural? Do we say forces are supernatural? These are things that we do not perceive yet determine the reality, how then should the reality be limited to perception?

Let’s look at life, nature is the essence of life. Do we say a person is supernatural because we can’t see the essence in them? The essence is what life actually is. It’s that which makes the difference between the living and the dead. A body without the essence is dead and decays while a body with the essence is alive and living.

Since essence which determines the reality of a person is beyond perception, can we then say everyone alive is supernatural? This will be ridiculous to the ear and so does the idea that supernatural exist sound ridiculous to my ear. Everything is within nature, we’re only existing within our level in nature.

As a person, I do not believe anything is supernatural. In fact I think the term supernatural is a figment of the deliberately shallow human mind. No one can truly know life unless they first accept that life transcends that which is seen.

In my book the science of God and life, I scientifically proved why an angel is just a natural Being after I encountered one. People who have read the book have had a different understanding of what life and nature so I guess it’s substantial enough for anyone. In fact, the editor said that’s her favorite topic of the book and thanked me for helping her understand life beyond her perception.

Nothing is supernatural, everything is within nature.

Written by: David A.O., author of the science of God and life. www.davidaobooks.com

If anyone asks me this question, then I might need to first ask them to define supernatural. What makes something supernatural? And when do we draw the line between natural and supernatural?

Linguistically, the term supernatural means above or beyond the natural. So when we say a thing is supernatural, we’re saying that that thing is beyond the natural.

Personally, I’ll say a thing that’s beyond the natural does not exist because nature itself is the essence of existence. Therefore, whatever is said to be supernatural will be above nature or completely outside nature. That thing does not exist. Nothing is beyond the essence of existence.

While this sounds like the popular view, I do have some objection to the popular view. I think the popular view on this matter holds to manipulate language with semantics and create a false reality as to what supernatural means.

When you ask someone what’s supernatural, they’d gladly say God is supernatural. When you probe further, they’d certainly bump on a spot where they’ll confess that they think God is supernatural because they cannot perceive him.

This gives us the understanding that the definition of supernatural has nothing to do with nature for most, it’s has everything to do with their perception. Therefore, people say God is supernatural because they think they cannot perceive God.

Whereas everything used to define God is natural. God is said to be light, love, true, wise etc, all these things are just natural so it really baffles me why anyone will say God is supernatural.

So the question might be: does the fact that we can’t see God makes God supernatural? If so, do we also say energy is supernatural? Do we say forces are supernatural? These are things that we do not perceive yet determine the reality, how then should the reality be limited to perception?

Let’s look at life, nature is the essence of life. Do we say a person is supernatural because we can’t see the essence in them? The essence is what life actually is. It’s that which makes the difference between the living and the dead. A body without the essence is dead and decays while a body with the essence is alive and living.

Since essence which determines the reality of a person is beyond perception, can we then say everyone alive is supernatural? This will be ridiculous to the ear and so does the idea that supernatural exist sound ridiculous to my ear. Everything is within nature, we’re only existing within our level in nature.

As a person, I do not believe anything is supernatural. In fact I think the term supernatural is a figment of the deliberately shallow human mind. No one can truly know life unless they first accept that life transcends that which is seen.

In my book the science of God and life, I scientifically proved why an angel is just a natural Being after I encountered one. People who have read the book have had a different understanding of what life and nature so I guess it’s substantial enough for anyone. In fact, the editor said that’s her favorite topic of the book and thanked me for helping her understand life beyond her perception.

Nothing is supernatural, everything is with in nature.

Written by: David A.O., author of the science of God and life. www.davidaobooks.com

duro4chang:
Let me correct the mistake I made,I wanted to write fox but I wrote wolf. Please check Luke13:31-32. Apart from that God will not be happy with anybody who sees evil and cannot condemn it.

Oh ok now I see what you mean. So does Jesus calling Herod a fox has anything to do with Jesus protesting? Do you know what the Bible means when it uses animals to represent messages? I think I wrote a post like that on here but I’ll send you another link where I wrote the same post in case you missed it on here.
https://www.davidaobooks.com/what-do-biblical-messages-represented-with-animals-mean/

That said, when Jesus called the Pharisees serpents, did that mean he was insulting them? When he says he’s given us power over serpents and scorpions, was he talking about Pharisees since he already called them serpents?

It’s important to understand Jesus’s message before we use them. Less we just use them out of our own accords.

I do not think Jesus will protest against government simply because he cautioned Peter not to protest his arrest. The apostles also preached obedience to authority of rules. We must put these thing into our life if we claim to believe in Jesus. Unless you say Jesus in the Bible is different from Jesus you know, or say the apostles have a different gospel from that which is preached today. I’ll accept your disposition when you make this clarification

duro4chang:
Do you know that Jesus Christ criticized both the religious and political leaders who were oppressing people during his life time? He even called Herod a wolf.Jesus will never support injustice.

I do not have a record of that in the Bible, can you show me what made you draw that conclusion?

Also, do you think Jesus and apostle Paul or Peter preached different gospels? Bc I can actually point you to a few places where they both admonished us to obey every rule of whatever we find ourselves and died as a result of oppression. If you think their gospel is different to Jesus’s then I understand but if you think it’s the same gospel then I might say No to you assertion.