Christianity Etc › Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by davien(m): 7:24pm On Jul 26, 2018 |
ScienceWatch: Then you understand my dishonest gibberish Abe ? It's appalling to say the least the avoidance antics you'd employ when you say you vouch for something you believe in but can't defend.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by davien(m): 5:57pm On Jul 26, 2018 |
ScienceWatch: Thank you for expressing your concerns and frustrations. The Transcendental realities can not be understood even with a mere PhD. All atheists are stuck where you are with puny secular education and growing arrogance to stroke their ego's. What I have written obviously confused you as you confess, but every person world wide that experienced transcendental reality knows exactly what I mean. Don't let it bother you, for you only stand worshiping NO-GOD in the Matrix.
Have you ever wondered why children and humble adults learn so rapidly ?
I responded to your question which was, "How do you know, can detect or be aware of a transcendent reality?" As is very clear from my response I never set out to prove anything in the spirit of the Op, WinnerO1 and Butterfly laboured on guidelines that I respect. With good intention I asked you to make Google your friend but you quickly came back frustrated and critical. This reveal serious character flaws that certainly block entry into the transcendental reality you feigned interest in, on the other hand these flaws are welcomed in domain governing darkness.
Last tip: Don't flaunt your education or status while searching for knowledge and evidence of transcendental realities, that alone disqualifies you. Respect the rules governing the transcendental domain of your choice. I didn't say I'm stuck understanding, I asked you to explain how you understand or find any of what you are saying to be true.. Will you do that? Or keep dishonestly posting gibberish and answering a straw man? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by davien(m): 10:54am On Jul 26, 2018 |
bloodofthelamb: I believe the message winner01 is passing across is this: Atheist have no right to boldly say, "there is no God" without prove.
They ought to be saying their might or might not be God. Why should anyone use might for something that doesn't have valid evidence? Saying might indicates there being a possibility of some sort and nothing so far presents it being possible for a God to exist, same way nobody is justified to say you might be dead when no evidence points to that.. Evidence is needed to say something might be possible, take for example, life.. Built on around carbon, we can say silicon life might be possible because silicon undergoes the same type of bonds and organochemistry but we still need more evidence to justify this "might". So in what vain might a god/gods exist? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by davien(m): 12:30am On Jul 26, 2018 |
ScienceWatch: Your question deserve a fair answer even though you are an atheist. I have noticed something very disturbing among atheists, they really battle to understand basic concepts of most transcendental realities because of the gross material nature of their thinking. You keep bringing up the term "transcendent" and vouching for a well understood version of reality that excludes the one we experience(@bolded) but I and I believe all other atheists or skeptics alike haven't gotten a response on how you became convinced of such.. Why is the answer kept within you or waved aside if it were so basic? Are basic things not explained or accounted for?  You may be an exception and honestly want that knowledge and experience. So to cut to the chase, it would be fair to warn you that there are only two forces that dominate the transcendental domain, the light and the dark. You are free to choose between the two, but either way you can't choose the resultant consequences. The experience can be very powerful depending on how deep you want to go because it defies physical laws. Be warned that all transcendental training connects you to powerful intelligent spirits. And in all honesty where did you acquire information on a transcendent domain above your and everyone else's "material thinking"(from the post I replied first), you see information is all nice and good but the way we acquire accurate information is by asking for the basis with which it was acquired or known to be at most near truthful.. You talking on forces of" light and dark" mean nothing to me if I don't have a clue what you are talking about, I'd merely be ignorantly following along to a topic and accepting nothing but your word of mouth.. Is that how you got to know of it also? All true religions, witchcraft, yoga, satanism etc etc all offer real practical transcendental experiences, make Google your friend. All I've ever come across are claims with interpretations without end, is there one you'd like to highlight which can't be grouped as one or we can say may hold an iota of truth in some sense? If at the end of a very long journey you want to experience the transcendental reality of connecting to the spirit of Jesus Christ, you will finally know that it is the purest spirit man can experience. I won't say more because I never evangelize to atheists, that is why I have briefly provided you with many possibilities available based on your own question. Take care ! Though all you've provided me with are just your word for word statements they are appreciated, but wouldn't you want to believe in something you know to be true in some sense and not feelings which waver under question and become stagnant to change in thinking.. We should be able to improve in our knowledge and find better answers to all ramifications of life this way don't you think?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by davien(m): 9:11pm On Jul 25, 2018 |
ScienceWatch: Good question. You could be the first to ask a sensible question. I don't seem to be in a better position to answer since I don't claim to know of such, do you know of any transcendent reality? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by davien(m): 9:08pm On Jul 25, 2018 |
winner01: What will be your answer to johndons question: "What will serve as evidence for Gods existence to you"? I wouldn't know since I don't profess belief in any, what would be yours? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by davien(m): 5:34pm On Jul 25, 2018 |
ScienceWatch: Remember how my 13yr old cousin understood what Butterflyleo posted but atheists failed dismally at it ? Well here Matt Slick is explaining the sad atheist dilemma;
"Atheists often ask for evidence to prove that God exists. They say they want tangible, testable evidence that can be verified via the scientific method. Unfortunately for them, such a request is the wrong approach. Instead, they should look for evidence consistent with a Transcendent God. Let me show you why. First of all, the scientific method is a system of learning that consists of observation, hypothesis, experimentation, prediction, and theory. It is based on logic and observations of the material universe and its properties.
Second, the scientific method, along with a materialistic worldview, necessarily excludes transcendence - that which exists independent of the universe. Therefore, it can't detect what is outside of the material realm since it is based on observing things inside the material realm." Vaxx has been pounding away at this too, but to no avail. The Atheists Training Manual is the most effective piece of literature used by atheists to confuse other atheists. How do you know, can detect or be aware of a transcendent reality? |
Romance › Re: Why You Should Never Masturbate Ever Again: By Victor Pride by davien(m): 1:59am On Jun 05, 2018 |
flames007: well,I guess since the sperm never left the body,it only got transform to an other form(of energy).maybe used by the body productively. And what was the heat loss of this energy change in J/k? |
Romance › Re: Why You Should Never Masturbate Ever Again: By Victor Pride by davien(m): 1:29pm On Jun 04, 2018 |
But the body destroys sperm daily.. How does that factor into your energy "theory"? |
Romance › Re: My Most Embarrassing Sex Ever Happened Yesterday by davien(m): 8:46pm On May 25, 2018 |
It's the alcohol dumba33! And those viagra pills will mess you up.. You'd nut quicker.. You can google effect of alcohol on an erection.  |
Romance › Re: Are Women Incapable Of Being Loyal? Let's Discuss by davien(m): 7:14pm On May 01, 2018 |
PUSSYHOE: No just single ladies in gf/bf relationship even married womencl cheat, even with men with great sense of humour, big manhood and rich still we do hear how their wives sleep with other men, sometimes it is not necessarily physical infidelity even emotional infidelity, imagine your wife being in love with another man.
I just can't understand women of this generation, is it because women of now are given full freedom compare to our mother's time when we have taboo, abominations, customs that prohibits women to cheat both physically and emotionally. funny how girls these days justify cheating," guy cheats too" LOL so because men do it you should do it, it's a competition.
Naturally women are unstable with the fluctuating emotions and hormones taking over, it's understandable but women of then went through all that and still manage to be with one man all their lives. what is the way forward is it a mission impossible for ladies to be loyal?
lalasticlala You mean women of old that were either so sex starved that they used objects on themselves, traveled to a far away town just to get d!Ckk and used religious gatherings as excuse to sample peN!Ses from holy men or their workers?..  The women we have now are a product of our efforts in making them open and not repressed, to show their true nature,so deal with it..  |
Phones › Re: Face ID Vs Fingerprint: Which Is More Secure? by davien(m): 9:18am On Apr 24, 2018 |
Technically none are and anything could happen, your face could be disfigured, your fingerprints could be washed away with an acid, and a head injury may induce memory loss so you'll forget your password.. |
Romance › Re: Why Do People Cheat? by davien(m): 6:59pm On Apr 10, 2018 |
Missraine69 you won't hear the end of it from them all,lol.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Believe In A Trinity By Saying God Is THAT ONE Who Sent Him? John 8:42 by davien(m): 10:32am On Apr 09, 2018 |
Why not settle this dispute by praying for revelati... Oh i remember that's all you do but still end up conflicted.  |
Gaming › Re: Gaming On Intel HD Graphics by davien(m): 10:05am On Apr 09, 2018 |
Swisscarter, when you plug in your pc switch power mode from power saver to high performance. |
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Business › Re: Cyber-attacks: ‘N150bn Depositors’ Monies At Risk’ by davien(m): 8:44am On Feb 12, 2018 |
Spectre and Meltdown CPU vulnerabilities and other hacks that most banking officials aren't aware of will probably be employed since they usually don't care to update system bios, windows and windows defender.. The sad thing is they won't even know they've been hacked, that's how harmful these vulnerabilities are,your CPU becomes a potty mouth that spills the beans from the kernel.. And this affects all current generation cpus right down to the first Intel and AMD chips. |
Computers › Re: NEW LAPTOP ARRIVALS. THREAD UPDATED!!!!! by davien(m): 9:07am On Feb 10, 2018 |
Collinz2: i have installed it last night after formating the laptop and changing the default game directory to c: drive root, all i need now is to install game fixes (dotnet, vc++ runtime, directX and others). Thanks. Nice |
Computers › Re: NEW LAPTOP ARRIVALS. THREAD UPDATED!!!!! by davien(m): 1:34am On Feb 10, 2018 |
Collinz2: I know this is off topic but help
how do I fix pes 2018 install error. Isdone.dll/unarc.dll error code 1,6,12,14?
i replace the dll files, increase page file, format laptop, disable real time protection and tried on two laptos, mount with poweriso and daemon tool yet nothing can solve it. If it's a self extractinh file then it's corrupt. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why So Many Atheists On Nairaland Forum? by davien(m): 10:10pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why So Many Atheists On Nairaland Forum? by davien(m): 9:54pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Ronpet777: But come to think of it, believers r in a win win situation. Let's say there is no God and we all just die and return to non existence like we were bf birth, wot do we stand to lose? I go to church worship a non existing God ,go back home and live peaceably with neighbours and love them as myself.Live life with very optimistic disposition that a God always answers our prayers, then just die and return to dust. And on the other hand, after living d life of great faith by trusting a God we never saw, believing in his words and trusting him completely only to be greatly rewarded with eternal life. Aren't we lucky then?
So Y do some(honestly not all) atheists feel so much hatred for Christians and get irritated at d sight of any Christian or Muslim assertions ? We r obviously in a better position than u all are!!!

cc: budaatum , hopefulLandlord ,davien, frank317, Seun, segunojo866 If this is really the case then as someone yearning for rewards just for believing something you are blindly following this belief because of its reward regardless of it being true.. And if it turns out to be true why would the god want you in its prescence since all you're after is it's reward and not genuine belief?  Matter of fact shouldn't you choose a religion with a higher Reward scheme, like say 77 virgins, ahem... Islam?  If you're this optimistic about throwing your life away based ofn a promised reward by 2000 year old beliefs I'm afraid of what you'll do when promised the same to take a life or lives when you hear a voice telling you to. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why So Many Atheists On Nairaland Forum? by davien(m): 5:23pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Ronpet777: Even the Christmas day is not accurately predicted but all these minor facts don't diminish d reliability of d Bible doctrine. It is an account and surely has gone tru additions and subtractions but yet d theme is not lost. U hv weak arguments bro and I am getting weary of dancing along with u. D Bible mention many things that can be verified and are proven to be true. D Bible is just a literature compilation until d spirit of God helps u to comprehend and digest it's content. Pple gave account of what they witnessed and were inspired to write. God does d overall interpretation. We don't claim d book was sent from heaven,do we?? I didn't even make any arguments to begin with I did not try convincing you of anything, instead i asked you to tell me why you believe and all i got was you basically saying you believe because you are absolutely sure...surety isn't the same as something being true.  So now let's thread on shall we? Why are the "inspirations" that people used to write the Bibles verses more believable to you than other religious books you might have encountered previously?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why So Many Atheists On Nairaland Forum? by davien(m): 4:40pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Ronpet777: Just as those points u stated abt Seun is completely unknown to me in spite of numerous pple that will argue against that cos they hv personal experience with him so is the conviction that God exist to people like u. U don't knw him because u didn't care to wholeheartedly search enough for him or cared to go thru d precepts of meeting Him. There r many uneducated pple who don't knw nairaland talk more of Seun d founder. By to d matter. How much of a believer were u when u were? D reason is dt too many pple r Christians without ever really being one. U r a Christian because of ur life style not because u were born into it, go to church or profess it. 80% of Nigerian Christians r not real Christians. They r simply religious and Jesus never preached religion. Again Bible preaching aside, @the bolded, every bit of one and as sure as i could be at the time,i wanted to know more and it led me to how the Bible was compiled by basically what would be considered today as popular vote and how the ancient manuscripts were lost, found, lost again, copied by people who claimed to see the originals... And edited to the extent most allegories are edited into real occurrences...An example is "40 days and 40 nights"..it meant just a really long time, not necessarily about any number of days. Have most churches updated their knowledge on this little fact or do they kick and scream at anything that reduces the magical wonder of their precious book?? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why So Many Atheists On Nairaland Forum? by davien(m): 4:12pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Ronpet777: Can I also ask u a question? Go ahead |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why So Many Atheists On Nairaland Forum? by davien(m): 4:05pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Ronpet777: Let me say this and probably back down from d quiz. To d best of my knowledge, I answered ur questions. Told u my very personal conviction. Sir, do u knw that many things abt around d world to be based on their beliefs? When u r not open to things, it doesn't work for u. Jesus cudnt do miracle in his home town because of disbelieve. Yet thousands of people hv met with salvation and seen d hands of d almighty in their lives because they dared to believe. I am a grown man who won't just open himself up to a pastor's mombo jombo if I hadn't seen things for myself. I am erudite and won't swallow any rubbish hook, line and sinker. God is real if u dare to believe him and trust him. Don't expect me to tell u I hv seen him bf and knw y he doesn't show up for all to see. If u r God and that is how u want to do things, y shld ur creations question u. and if they do, do u hv to change for ephemeral creatures? Seun doesn't like getting publicly seen does he hv to break protocol because we really wish to meet him? Dear to trust him whole heartedly and watch him reveal himself to u personally. You could have just said you believe because Bible tells me so, could've saved me the sentiment.  Seun has been seen, heard, documented, interviewed, and even if you are skeptical, all lines of communication are open to you and can be cross confirmed, and even on top of that you'd just be excused for doubting a person like him is real, no hell fires, no golden gates and milk and honey to make you believe and certainly no one knocking your door to preach that you believe in seun osewa the founder of nairaland... So have fun with your absolute surety in something that lacks all these.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why So Many Atheists On Nairaland Forum? by davien(m): 3:50pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Ronpet777: Y does it does it sound as though I am under interrogation I wholly got convinced because the teachings were evident for me to see and God has done things for me that naturally won't hv happened if I was not a believer. I hv experienced healing, deliverance and more in my life. So, how do I need any one else to convince me abt things I saw for myself not even others' testimonies. I hv never been more sure of anything else in my life. It sounds that way because you aren't talking to a believer who's bought the theology wholesale so I'm curious to what convinced you.. But back to the important bits, @the first bolded, what teachings in your belief are evident? And @ the second, what has happened to you that couldn't have happened to a believer of a different faith or other denomination of your faith and how can you tell the God you believe in willed it that way? Lastly is being absolutely sure of your belief the same as it being true? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why So Many Atheists On Nairaland Forum? by davien(m): 2:02pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Ronpet777: No... I tot I just told u how I got wholly convinced. No, and again i still ask this.. davien: Could you tell me how you got wholly convinced,,and are you saying whatever might have happened to you couldn't have happened without your belief?
Could a Muslim, other denomination of Christian, Atheist, tree worshiper experience those things? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why So Many Atheists On Nairaland Forum? by davien(m): 1:24pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Ronpet777: My spirit, soul, and body. The words written in d scriptures were manifest as I towed d path laid down. I used words from d scriptures and I saw things happen. Real things hv happened to me as I applied words from d holybook. I mean real things sir. Could you tell me how you got wholly convinced,,and are you saying whatever might have happened to you couldn't have happened without your belief? Could a Muslim, other denomination of Christian, Atheist, tree worshiper experience those things? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why So Many Atheists On Nairaland Forum? by davien(m): 1:09pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Ronpet777: I am not a Muslim because not only was I not born into it, I also don't buy into their doctrine. I grew old enough to decide on Wot I really wanted. So what convinced you your religion was true? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why So Many Atheists On Nairaland Forum? by davien(m): 9:31am On Feb 09, 2018 |
budaatum: Wouldn't surprise me if they open a thread claiming "atheism kills". Went on a long break due to the same dumb topics that have been discussed and concluded over and over again.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why So Many Atheists On Nairaland Forum? by davien(m): 9:10am On Feb 09, 2018 |
budaatum: I did not ask you for a name! I know of atheists who have committed suicide myself. Your statement was that more atheists commit suicide, and not one person did. And my initial research into Hemingway did not point to his atheism. He's stonewalling, using any form of negativity he can find and attributing it to atheism |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why So Many Atheists On Nairaland Forum? by davien(m): 9:04am On Feb 09, 2018 |
Ronpet777: And what proof hv u of that? Speak for urself Seun. That might hv happened to u because u probably sought knowledge with a slightly distorted bias. Seun at some point was a believer, if he believed and wanted to seek more knowledge then how did you deduce that he had distorted bias? Is that even possible to be in the affirmative and non-affirmative at the same time?  If you stopped replying his posts with sentiment you can engage him to see him as just the same normal human being as you but with different beliefs. |