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Goodboiyy:
Did we say we own warry Township ? nah nah na,

the problem on ground here is tat u fail to understand something, Warri is used to refer to Itsekiri , Cous it was derived from Iwerre, So If our king is Called Olu of Warri how does that mean Itsekiri Owns everywhere ?

u fail to understand us

You obviously are enlightened enough to see what I mean but most other itsekiri on this thread have insisted on absolute ownership of warri township... my brother you and me are on the same page and saying almost the same thing

macof:
No, they are independent and work together to move Egbaland forward. think of it as cooperative governance over their people. ..the 4 groups look to their own kings
But the land really belongs to the Ake people


You know the problem with warri is that the battling groups speak different languages

You fail to realize that Iwere is the native name of Warri(all 3 Lga) and this land area is of mass far above the metropolitan city of warri....blame the Europeans for the confusion

The solution can only lay in truth. ...finding out the history of the various communities in the city and probably breaking it up if push comes to shove

the traditional name(s) of warri TOWNSHIP is the names of the various communities that make up the areas that became warri township... this township was a planned city not along natural historical boundaries... The Iwerre you are talking about is Ode Itsekiri... Even the itsekiri communities in warri township had and still have their own names before warri was created... your namesake is not you... You can't claim a place simply cos it bears the same name as yours. And as to the issue of Egbaland, u are wrong... I have lived with Yorubas for more than 10 yrs and I know for certain that Obas granted lands in foreign lands pay homage to their overlords... Even the Oba of Benin recieves homage from more than a few urhobo kings by virtue of desent.

scholes0:
Are the non Itsekiri parts of Warri part of the Warri South local government?
If it is part of the Udu or Uvwie LGA, then it does not belong to historical warri.

This is not what we are argueing about

scholes0:
The Original town of Warri was 100% Itsekiri land.
But because the city has gotten bigger and grown tremendiously, parts of it has expanded and spilled into the neighboring urhobo lands and local governments. Hence the Olu of Warri is a proper title, going by an historical line of thought. Other settlements that are now part of the warri metropolis might also have their own traditional rulers just like there are more kings in the lagos metropolis other than Oba Akiolu- such as the king of Ikorodu, etc, but the original historical heart of Lagos has just the Oba pf Lagos as it's prominent ruler.

Ijaws don't even have a case here. The lands that constitute Warri metropolis today is an Itsekiri-Urhobo issue

First off, ikorodu is an entirely different town and sub ethnic group from lagos... so ur arguement there doesn't hold water. Secondly, even the original plan for Warri TOWNSHIP recognised the boundaries btween the ethnic groups that owned the lands therein... so your arguement about expansion is again baseless

macof:
There are many reasons why kings share their power and authority with Leaders of later settlers. .. u once spoke Egbaland
I'll bring u to the capital of Egbaland - Abeokuta where there are 4 Kings, yet Alake is known as King of Egbaland
It could be to boost the labour force and strengthen the country, or just to avoid a brutal conquest

But in the case of the Egbas these assimilated kings pay homage and tribute to the Alake as their overlord... can u say the same is the case with the Olu?

Goodboiyy:
it hurts seeing people fighting over nothing... Let's Just 4get about This Olu of Warri stuff, Its just a title, which refers to Lord Of All Iwerre Land, Itsekiri never Said they Own all land in Warri, D Agbasa ,e.t.c re part of Urhobo land and we admit.

Just like some1 earlier said, OBA of Lagos doesn't mean Yoruba re d only Tribe in Lagos, its just that Yoruba re d founder. same with Iwerre (warri).

I hold nothing against Urhobo Cous am more Urhobo than my tribe, let's just 4get about all these, The most important tin is Peace, Let's come together.

BTW u just made my point... he's the Olu of Ikwerreland, areas that compise but not limited to parts of warri township... it is possible for more than one ethnic group to be indigenous to a particular ethnic area is it not...? So why is it so hard to accept that the itsekiri donot own every part of warri township?

macof:
The Oba of Egbaland (Alake) doesn't Rule all Egbaland, he granted rights to other settlers who have clear independence from the Alake. ...so if you use this to compare the Warri issue, we can conclude that Olu allowed settlers - The urhobo and ijaw communities in Warri Metropolis

When a king grants rights to other people's the rulers of these people's pay tribute or homage to the overlord... is this the case in warri?

onuwaje:
Outright nonsense

Are u saying swaziland owns what is SA?

Warri township was created when d British paid rents to d landlords and I can tell u they didn't pay to the urhobos

Get ur facts right

And I can tell u u just sprouted trash... are igbudu and agbassa not part of warri township or is your olu also a landlord there? If your Olu owns warri how come there are 3 kings in warri township area alone? Have u ever heard of a king that allows his sovereignty to be undermined in that manner? Having this arguement with you is an exercise in futility because if the last 50 years of this issue hasn't made istsekiri's admit the truth then I most definitely don't expect you to be reasonable either.

scholes0:
Are Yorubas the only inhabitants of Lagos?
but there is Oba of Lagos...... The key here is finding out the people who established the original town of Warri.
In general, your comments show that you have a serious inherent anti-itsekiri sentiment..... your observations should be taken only at face value.

Ijala the projenitor of itsekiri founded ode itsekiri (BIG WARRI) NOT warri township which was created as an administrative town for the then warri devision... stop twisting facts

onuwaje:
As to the burial part of ur claim it's still subject to confirmation. None of my family members have been buried there (cos that point is nonsense)

U claim warri township does not belong to the. Itsekiris how come there re more itsekiri communities in warri township?

The thought of thinking that monarch don't rule over a place (in ur own biased opinion towards d itsekiri is appalling)

Pls check ur archives well before jumping to conclusion and pls bring facts not some speculation from your dad

Even if there there are 99 itsekiri communities in warri township and just one urhobo community it does not automatically make the one comunity subject to the larger one... swaziland is completely surrounded by SA but still an independent country. As to my source, the archives exist that document the creation of warri township... But the itsekiri have convinently chosen not to acknowledge these historical records. Ethnic amnesia. Big warri is not and has never been warri township.

You should have ur mech check your airflow meter or ur air flow sensor, depending on which of them your car uses.... it may need tweaking or replacement. I had the same issue some mnths back and it went away by itself...

Juvante:
Point of correction, I am not from Uvwie and instead of name calling, point out the errors in my post. Ask your father to tell you how popular Sapele was in the eighties. Warri was just a boys Quarter compared to Sapele then. Did anyone ever refer to AT and P as located in Warri? Since you think you are more enlightened, why not tell me the importance of boundary markers or landmarks? Can you mention just one area in Uvwie that is currently "encompassed" by Warri? English words have actual meaning. Uvwie Kingdom meets Warri only at Enerhen (the popular Enerhen junction) and Edjeba ( the NPA Express Road junction and at the bridge at NNPC Housing Complex Road). Over to you, bro!

Am not saying you are wrong about the boundries, and I apologise for my use of insultive language...

What I AM saying is that wen two cities grow together it is usual for pple to refer to one of them when generally speaking of the area where the two are located, it happpens everywhere in the world not just nigeria, I am a full proper Udu boy who grew up close to enerhen, kolokolo to be specific and my address is 4* udu road warri... not 4* udu rd udu or 4* udu rd uvwie... and we both know enerhen technically is not warri... am simply saying it doesnt really matter if we are all generalized as wafferians so long as we know our boundries and its not done as a sign of overlordship or for a sinister purpose.
I have always thought of myself as a warri boy and outside Delta present myself as one, I bet you do too.

Epaul:
sure 'na we we' chairman.
You can be rest assured i was not being tribalistic in the least when i said warri is quite distinct from effurun. It was little more than saying oleh and ozoro are two different towns. You get?
The emboldened in your post is very correct. But it still, you will agree, doesn't derogate from the fact that they are different towns, cities if you like.
At any rate "We all na one" (even if we have to feign it)

i've heard of Odion. Where exactly is it?.

So u nor even know where Odion dey and u dey form Area? Mtchewww

Juvante:
Nor just go there? So DSC township is in Warri, right? FUPRE is in Warri, right? Why do you think that there is currently a fight going on to rename the Industrial Park as the Edjeba Industrial Park?
Do you know that PTI was originally said to be in Effurun- Warri? What the hell is Effurun- Warri? Even FUPRE at inception ,was said to be in Effurun, until it was changed to Ugbomro,which is correct. Have you ever heard that Edjeba boys went to Ekpan garage to collect tax? If you don't know the boundaries of Warri, visit the LGA Secretariat for more info. This always happen when our fate is decided by strangers!

U go sabi drag usuless issues o, shuooo! Didnt u do geography? A conurbation is two cities coexisting alongside and intermingling to eventually form a metropolis. Nobody is dragging ur smelly uvwie with u, we just saying warri metropolis has grown to encompass parts of uvwie NOT automatically snatched these parts of uvwie... Haba! Dnt let small mindedness blind you to the realities on ground!

LKO:
Oya start the fight with WRPC/NNPC which is located in Ekpan but we are made to believe they are in Warri. Same with PTI and FUPRE which are in Effurun and Ugbomro respectively, but we are made to believe they are in Warri.

Even u, If I hear say u nor tell ur Abuja friend say na Warri u dey stay, but meanwhile na Effurun u dey stay. Once u are outside Delta, all the nearby small towns are referred to as Warri, e nor bad like that.

Are u an Uvwie guy? Meanwhile, na who u help?

One very cooooold heineken for u my guy! U just kilt the poor slob

LKO:
Oya start the fight with WRPC/NNPC which is located in Ekpan but we are made to believe they are in Warri. Same with PTI and FUPRE which are in Effurun and Ugbomro respectively, but we are made to believe they are in Warri.

Even u, If I hear say u nor tell ur Abuja friend say na Warri u dey stay, but meanwhile na Effurun u dey stay. Once u are outside Delta, all the nearby small towns are referred to as Warri, e nor bad like that.

Are u an Uvwie guy? Meanwhile, na who u help?

My brother chooooop knuckle jor!!! U kilt him good

apolonius:
I will not say Islam but forceful ignorance.By the way,people have justified all sorts of evil with religious beliefs and spiritual philosophies.The Catholic church that I profess faith in God through had the crusades and burnt many enlightenment campaigners in the name of God.Copernicus,Galileo et al.

Religion sustained the genocide campaigns of Hitler.

Check out the remote philosophies that triggered the wars of the world.

What of the reformation,protestantism and the victims?

The Jews devotion and defence of their homeland that see them brutalize a nation all for an idealogy of scriptural historicity?

Yet,in truth these evils like Boko Haram and ISIL terrorism are all creations of evil minds;never religion!

my people say " word when correct, them nor dey drag am" yours words are so onn point, I hve held these exact view for yrs and have suffered criticism for it!

laykorn:
Darn! These things have guns?

No, they usually kill eachother with their mouth or body odours....

Akposkool:
HOW TO CATCH A THIEF 101.
The American police style: allow
the thief catch u then u catch the
thief .
The china police style: chase the
thief till he gets tired, then u
catch him.
The arab police style: kidnap the
thief's wife,and threaten the thief
to surrender.
The Indian police style: allow a
pretty damsel sing for him 2 lure
him closer,then u catch him .
The Naija police style: catch any
person on the street, beat him
until he agrees he is a Thief..
True Or False

"Naija police" so true!!!!

ROSSIKE:
Look in the mirror, you airhead. You reckon it's ok for YOU to back your post with invective, but not others. Practise what you preach or get lost. And no, I couldn't care less about your views - just don't come in here claiming the colonialists did anything major or I'll bury you in facts like I did the other guy.

Funny part is we share the exact same views on this issue but u like the proverbail wounded dog who would bite even the hand trying to soothe its injury... am not gonna get involved in a war of words with u but remember I used the word "awesome" when describing ur views... peace

ROSSIKE:
Keep deceiving yourself. Literacy rate has increased dramatically since independence. Why do you think the vast majority of our grandparents are illiterates? Use your brain for once!

If you werent so insultive and vindictive... your post would actually be awesome, but as it is even when u r making sense you suck major arse

ROSSIKE:
What is so special about these pics? Nigeria was very underdeveloped when all those pics were taken. Most people were malnourished, lived in neglected villages with no electricity or running water. Cars were only for the super rich. Roads were virtually non existent. Illiteracy was the order of the day. Op please stop romanticising misery and deprivation. LIFE IS MUCH BETTER TODAY FOR NIGERIANS.

And where oh pls did the op state that things were better tthen than they are now... if u do not understand where you are coming from how do you decide where you are going or how far down the road to your desire you have travelled. The past wasnt glorious, yes... but it is important to stay intouch with our history