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Dede1:
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You are entitled to your opinions regardless how goofy they may appear. Igbo [size=18pt]do not burial [/size] their dead out their ancestral homes even when born in another city in Igbo land talk less of Hausa, Fulani, Yoruba, Kanuri or Tiv land.

Gbosa gbosa, Dende Ecomog soldier

You wan kill us for this thread.

Can i ask where do Igbos now "burial" their pipo wey die from HIV

OP and Eze ndigbo Nairaland,

I have a different proposal.

Given the importance of Malam Abdul-[b]MUMU[/b]ni Ojuku, the burial should be in phases.

He should first be buried for 2 years in Israel the land of his fore father since he is a Jew 

After 2 years exhumed and taken to Abijan his adopted home and where he ran to 

Next, exhumed and he should be taken to the headquarters of cross-dressers in the world since he was the first recorded crossdresser 

After another 2 years taken to the compound of Benjamin Adekunle the man who sent him to exile 

After another 2 years take him to Zungeru his place of birth 

After another 2 years dismember him and dump the remains in Atlantic ocean so that the known cannibals wont feast on it 

Lastly his manhood should be given to Patience where she would make it live on

This is my submission

I am not a car dealer, I have never sold a car to anyone but I have shipped cars to Nigeria for Family members

OP, I can buy you the said car for $6,000 but you would come and drive it in America.  Deal? 

By the time you add Towing to Port + Shipping cost $1400 from places like Texas

And clearing cost from Nigeria What do you have.

I think some Nigerian buyers are unreasonable I once had a friend who told me he wanted to buy a car from US, I gave him the website to go and look for cars that he wants and send me the link.

He went there and sent me cars that are sold for less than $2000, Honestly do you think any good car would be sold for $1200. I mean a car worth importing to naija.

Next I opened the link and I saw that the seller said there is a "Check Engine light". I called him back that didnt he see it? And he told me yes he saw it but it doesnt matter that they have a way of removing the Light in Nigeria. Imagine

I told him not to worry that he can find someone else to buy him the car. I am not a dealer and cant go to Abilene like 5hours drive to but a $1600 car that has a check Engine light on to ship to naija.

Another person would have bought it and sold the car for cheap. The car would have fault down the road and you would start cursing.

If something is dead cheap, Most time watch out.

NB: Also because someone bought a car for $5000 doesnt mean the next person would buy it for the same.

What causes difference in car prices are the same for all items.

Different dealers sell the same cars for diff prices.

cars cost differently in different states due to demand and supply.

Shipping cars from East coast e.g Florida, baltimore isnt the same as with somewhere like Texas or California

then the season you are buying cars makes a difference. If you are buying cars in the peak of the tax season i.e February-March, Its usually more expensive than during later in the year.

During the tax season, more ppl have disposable cash and can afford to bid higher for cars vs when Money don finish

Some dealers might be dubious but you need to put all these things into consideration

E.g  I heard the cost of clearing a Lexus IS 250 in Nigeria is over 1.5m, Imagine how much you would clear an SUV

Well done Aregbe

pcicero:
@ kamali
Abeg, no twist history oo. Ropo Ewela was never the president of the SUG. We were in ANA (association of Nigerian authors) together. I learnt he contested but he never won. Carl was before Tony Fash. There was no SUG election after Tony Fash until Vakama's election.

@st.domain
Yes, I knew. I saw your earlier post.we were same set.

Pcicero,

I heard Carl was president I think he was impeached and he invited cultist into school to fight for him.

Maybe Ropo Ewenla was some form of interim leader before real elections was held which he contested and lost

You want me to tell you?

How Awo boys dare not come to Sport Hall to wake us up for Aluta because they would get beaten by those judokas

Or how guys who stay late in Moz, would be held hostage

Isale I dont know if that coloured picture of that quality could have been taken in the 60's when Akintola lived.

Maybe it was retouched

So where can you infer from the post Physics made that the statement wasnt made by the Oba of benin Erediauwa?

Probably in your royal ignorance you didnt know Erediauwa was Oba of Benin and according to his profile I posted he served in eastern nigeria at that time 1960's.

If you cant read and understand simple English and need Physics to explain to you then why dont you go enroll in school instead of disgracing yourself on the web

[size=18pt]Igbo people[/size]  By force by force Ikwerre must accept they are Igbos, Edo people are also related to us so they are Igbos. Jews are Igbos, Germans are Igbos, Queen Elizabeth is Igbo

Na by forceeeee?? ??

And where did Physics claim that the writer is not the Oba of Benin Erediauwa like you claimed

Can you copy the quote Physics made about that?

Since your own ability to read and understand English is now dependent on what Physics says

Shey na HIV screening dem wan do for Bian-car the national carrier, and village bicycle.

The mysterious way Ojuku died which was suspected to be from the dreaded AIDS is cause for suspicion and in the National interest Bian-car has to be screened

Is she getting paid? If she wants to mourn, Can she simply decline the appointment to mourn or why receive salary and cant perform your duties because you are mourning.

She is mourning under Uju Okonkwo on Ojukus bed

[quote author=One_Naira link=topic=866064.msg10154863#msg10154863 date=1328749650]Papabrowne, Gareth, Physics, Edo.girl and one more Benin person repeated the same thing.
I am not surprised Papabrowne was the only one that stood out to you because he's the only one whom kept mentioning he'll choose SE over SW. No surprise there. Your hatred for Igbo will kill you one day if you ask me. You should seek help on it.
As for the article you kept posting all over the thread. I ignored you because well you seem to have selective reading, a simply look of physics reply was all I needed to see. The guy in question (Erediauwa) was not the Oba of Benin as the Benin’s on that thread mentioned countless times but rather a non-royal Benin individual whom studied and lived around eastern Nigeria. He, physics, also mentioned the article is been taking out of context by individuals since well the same guy in question was a friend of Zik and many other Igbo. He spoke of the stereotype and belief of eastern groups about Igbo well at the same time connecting the good aspect of Igbo as mentioned by Physics. I've noticed a new wave of selective reading on NL. I'll rather listen to someone whom is more intellectual advanced in history (physics) than you.[/quote]An article written in plain English yet you needed another human being to interprete for you

Have you bothered to find out who Erediauwa is? Or you are waiting for physics to explain to you

Erediauwa (b. 1923) was crowned the 38th Oba of Benin, head of the traditional state of Benin, Nigeria on 23 March 1979. He is the traditional ruler of the Edo people, with his capital in Benin City. Formerly Prince Solomon Akenzua, Oba Erediauwa's full title is His Royal Highness Omo n'Oba n'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo Solomon Igbinoghodua Aisiokuoba Akenzua Erediauwa I.[1]

[edit] BiographyErediauwa was born in 1923, son of Oba Akenzua II. Before being crowned he was known as Prince Solomon, Aiseokhuoba, Igbinoghodua Akenzua. He attended Government College, Ibadan (1939–1945), then Yaba College, before going to King's College, Cambridge to study Law and Administration. He joined the Eastern Nigeria Civil Service in 1957 as a District Officer, later moving to the Federal Civil Service where he retired as Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Health in 1973. For a short period he was the regional representative of Gulf Oil. In 1975 he was appointed Commissioner for Finance in Bendel State during the Military Administration of Major-General George Agbazika Innih.[1]

Ascending to the throne on 23 March 1979,

Even America where ppl seem to copy all these ideas from would not have a public officer dressed that way to an official function

Ikwerre are Igbos, Jews are Igbos by extension Bill gates is Igbo

[quote author=One_Naira link=topic=866064.msg10154315#msg10154315 date=1328740858]Actually No you do not. The Yoruba claim they claim they have connection with the Yoruba. You should reread the Benin thread, the Edo on NL identified that neither Yoruba nor Igbo have any connection with them, they share similar heritage, some similar words but the two main groups are not similar to them. Did you miss the actual Edo replies such as Physics, Gareth, etc on that thread? The only group whom kept speaking of the connection was Yoruba. Let stop lying to ourselves sometimes.
Cubans and Brazilians claim Yoruba identity because they are of Yoruba stock just like Dominican Republic, African-American, Jamaicans, and some Afro-Europeans claim Igbo heritage because they are of Igbo stock.[/quote]On NL anyone can claim to be anyone. I can register a name tomorrow and say I am Okechukwu from umuahia

Would I rather believe the words of Papabrowne over the Oba of Bini?

The thing is have you seen any Oba of Bini that would deny Benin links with Yoruba?

Its either they say Oduduwa came from Bini or the other way round.

And Who can be more Edo than the Oba of Bini Omo noba Erediauwa

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=864525.msg10152879#msg10152879 date=1328729284]Where is DK. . .are you going to vie for Are Ona Kakanfo or not? Don't let Akintola down. . . . it will be nice to have in history that two Ares came from same bloodline.[/quote][img]http://sirismm.si.edu/eepa/eep/eepa_01956.jpg[/img]

See how Ben Gurion dey look the Aare ona kakanfo in fear

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Samuel_L%C3%A1d%C3%B2k%C3%A8_Ak%C3%ADnt%E1%BB%8D%CC%81l%C3%A1_-David_Ben_Gurion1961-1.jpg

ASL33:
B4 now this place use to go like two pages each day all on how to outwit man United and others now what we read from the so called faithfo0ls are Anual report dating back from 80s. Is Arsenal FC an Accounting firm in the city of London or a football club heading towards Wartford both in geography and on league table?

True words

He is a good buy cos he wont mind sitting on the bench for Robbery unlike someone like Reus

Hope he plays up to the potential he showed at the U21 and in the CL games

DD still dey perform for CUNTry

Some strikers cant score to save their lives even if you put them h-inside Ayilara Empire Ashi joint. Person like Torres go dey score inside ear lobes inside of the koko

pazienza:
Dayo,ikwerre people are not too important to other igbo tribes,they are not the only igbo tribe with oil,Asa ,ndoni(anioma),egbema,ndoki tribes also have oil,but ndiigbo don't depend on oil,the most important igbo tribe today,are those igbos indigenious to bonny,they offer the igbo nation what we lack,ikwerre is landlocked.

I get your point, If anyone says he isnt something just leave him alone and dont argue

if African Americans come tomorrow and say they dont have a link to Africa, it would be silly of me to start arguing with him and trying to convince him he is from Africa


If you are from Enugu and say you are not Ibo, na your palava be that, if you are from Ibadan and even have tribal marks yet say you are not Yoruba but norwegian, na you sabi

PStylish:
@All
So far I have come to understand the difference between mainland Yorubas and Igbos as regards their relationship with their people indigenous to states outside their geopolitical zone.

The Igbos
The Igbos find themselves in a desperate bid to associate themselves with Igbos outside the SE and claim them as brothers which they may actually be. They even go as far as claiming Edo state and even Yoruba.Only that in the latter case, they see us as the same people with different dialects.
But this attitude breeds suspicion.Why not let these outland Igbos be the ones shouting and spelling it loud and clear that they are Igbo. I have met many Delta Igbos who outrightly chastised me for calling them Igbo and warned me against making such mistake again.These guys - male and female -  bear pure Igbo names to the best of my understanding.

The Yorubas
Yorubas in the SW not give a rats arse what the Yorubas in Kwara, Kogi, Edo, Delta (Itsekiri) and Niger (Jebba) call themselves.
Infact it is these guys that keep sounding it loud and clear at the slightest opportunity that they Yorubas.
In our daily interactions with them, only 2 factors matter - their Yoruba names and their ability to speak Yoruba - for them to enjoy Yoruba benefits wherever whenever.
[b]As regards Awori not wanting to be Yoruba, [/b]I am hearing that for the first time on Nairaland.So funny. The interesting part of that "misyarn" is that Igbos have finally accepted that Lagos is not a no man's land,that it is owned by the Aworis only that the Aworis are not Yoruba.Very funny.
Lest I forget, I read a newspaper publication some months ago. It was a rejoinder from some Ilaje leaders.They had written to fault Olusegun Osoba on his wrong assertion that they were Ijaws. In doing this they went down history lane and asserted their Yorubaness in very strong terms.I was proud of that. This is how the non SE Igbos should be allowed to fight for their Igboness rather than have it forced down their throat by the mainlanders.
My close friend has told me several times we are not Yoruba.It is now left for me to tell him NO irrespective of whatever points he may have.
All Yorubas have dialects - from simple to undiscernible - but we all converge in the general Yoruba.

One love.

Co-signed.

Yorubas dont care if you are from ibadan and say you are not Yoruba, no one would fight youfor it.

Actually you would see many groups from Benin, Cuba, brazil, Sierra leone etc coming to say they are related to yoruba, Yorubas wont be going to claim them and actually fighting with them

But for Ibos its always like that.

Per your example. I have a friend whose whole family bear Ibo names like Chinyere, Ifeanyi, Nduka, Ugochukwu yet still tells me he is not Ibo that he is Ndokwa.

I have never heard any Ekiti, ilaje, Ijebu, Egba, Ijesha claim they are not Yoruba before

Huge difference

coogar:
torres did it twice for liverpool. . . .07/08 and 09/10.

he even did it for spain before they started their tiki-taka.

Milito 2008/2009 24 goals for genoa

Milito 2009/2010 22goals for Inter

Milito this current season in 18 app he has 12 goals

In the interview with President, Ohanaeze Ndigbo, Ralph Uwechue, published in the Daily Sun March 10, the President was asked what efforts he was making to unite Igbo in Rivers and Delta states, he said: “First of all, it should be understood that these factions who now deny the fact they are Igbo did so only after the civil war; take for instance the Ikwerre people… fully identified with us during the pre-civil war era but because the Igbo lost the civil war, a kind of stigma was smeared on them making a lot of people to start adjusting their names to sound less Igbo…”. This statement is misleading and not correct.

First of all, Ikwerre is not Igbo. We have made this clear even before the civil war and that was why some Igbo accused Ikwerre of sabotage during the war. Second, in all efforts by the minorities in the former Eastern region to agitate for their own political, social and economic recognition and liberty in the Eastern region and Nigeria at large, Ikwerre participated fully: hence, the late Chief E. J. A. Oriji and others represented Ikwerre before and during most of the conferences set up to address the fears of the minority ethnic groups in Nigeria. Third, in May 1963, Ikwerre people formed the Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention to state that Ikwerre is a distinct ethnic group from any others in Nigeria. Fourth, in the 1964/65 elections into the Federal House of Representatives, National Council of Nigeria and the Camerouns (NCNC) nominated an Igbo man named Mr. Eluguronu to represent Ikwerre in the House. Ikwerre rejected it and fielded young Nwobidike Nwanodi as an independent candidate and he won. Fifth, Ikwerre’s participation in all the movements for the creation of COR and later Rivers States clearly shows Ikwerre’s rejection of been Igbo.

Let the point be made that right from about the 16th century, the Igbo has been in touch with Ikwerre (through slave trade, Arochuku activities, goods trading, hiring of labour for farm work, marriages and politics) and had always wanted to dominate, colonise and take over Ikwerre at all cost and by all means possible. This is natural especially where the dominated people are better endowed than the colonising power, coupled with the ever tendency of a bigger group to swallow a smaller one and whenever the latter refuses, the former resorts to cheap propaganda. That is exactly what Chief Uwechue and Ohanaeze Ndigbo are bent on doing to Ikwerre. In this unholy enterprise, they appear confused: for example, while some of them claim that Ikwerre sabotaged the Biafra project, Uwechue has said that Ikwerre did not. Truly, Ikwerre did not, just like every other minority ethnic group in the former Eastern region. How could we when the Igbo were in absolute control of the region? So, we fought for Biafra. When another colonising super power (Nigerian forces) arrived, Ikwerre had no option than to surrender and cooperate with them. Hence, Ikwerre actually fought the war on and for both sides.

After the war, some of the ill activities of the Igbo in Ikwerre were corrected. In the case of names, the Igbo first changed the original Ikwerre names into Igbo names in an attempt to force Ikwerre to become Igbo. So at the end of the war, some Ikwerre decided to assert their original names; hence, Igirita was changed to Igwuruta, Isoba was changed to Choba, Amaweke was changed to Rumuokwuta, etc. Even individuals suffered the same humiliation when their names were forcefully changed from Ovunda to Obinna for example. Even the original name of the Ikwerre ethnic group, which is Iwheruoha was changed to Ikwerre by the Igbo. Some names have been retained (like my surname) to reflect part of the Ikwerre colonial journey, just like a Yoruba Nigerian bearing the name Matthew. Does this make the Yoruba man an English man? No!

On a more serious note, [size=18pt]if the Igbo insists that Ikwerre is Igbo, they should provide concrete sociological and historical evidences to prove their case beyond the whimsical factors of appearance, language and name, which no longer can correctly and truly define a people in today’s world[/size].

The bolded.

Some m0rons on this Thread (Onlylies) claimed they can differentiate 2 Southern Nigerian by looks. What could be more id10tic.

In the interview with President, Ohanaeze Ndigbo, Ralph Uwechue, published in the Daily Sun March 10, the President was asked what efforts he was making to unite Igbo in Rivers and Delta states, he said: “First of all, it should be understood that these factions who now deny the fact they are Igbo did so only after the civil war; take for instance the Ikwerre people… fully identified with us during the pre-civil war era but because the Igbo lost the civil war, a kind of stigma was smeared on them making a lot of people to start adjusting their names to sound less Igbo…”. This statement is misleading and not correct.

First of all, Ikwerre is not Igbo. We have made this clear even before the civil war and that was why some Igbo accused Ikwerre of sabotage during the war. Second, in all efforts by the minorities in the former Eastern region to agitate for their own political, social and economic recognition and liberty in the Eastern region and Nigeria at large, Ikwerre participated fully: hence, the late Chief E. J. A. Oriji and others represented Ikwerre before and during most of the conferences set up to address the fears of the minority ethnic groups in Nigeria. Third, in May 1963, Ikwerre people formed the Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention to state that Ikwerre is a distinct ethnic group from any others in Nigeria. Fourth, in the 1964/65 elections into the Federal House of Representatives, National Council of Nigeria and the Camerouns (NCNC) nominated an Igbo man named Mr. Eluguronu to represent Ikwerre in the House. Ikwerre rejected it and fielded young Nwobidike Nwanodi as an independent candidate and he won. Fifth, Ikwerre’s participation in all the movements for the creation of COR and later Rivers States clearly shows Ikwerre’s rejection of been Igbo.

Let the point be made that right from about the 16th century, the Igbo has been in touch with Ikwerre (through slave trade, Arochuku activities, goods trading, hiring of labour for farm work, marriages and politics) and had always wanted to dominate, colonise and take over Ikwerre at all cost and by all means possible. This is natural especially where the dominated people are better endowed than the colonising power, coupled with the ever tendency of a bigger group to swallow a smaller one and whenever the latter refuses, the former resorts to cheap propaganda. That is exactly what Chief Uwechue and Ohanaeze Ndigbo are bent on doing to Ikwerre. In this unholy enterprise, they appear confused: for example, while some of them claim that Ikwerre sabotaged the Biafra project, Uwechue has said that Ikwerre did not. Truly, Ikwerre did not, just like every other minority ethnic group in the former Eastern region. How could we when the Igbo were in absolute control of the region? So, we fought for Biafra. When another colonising super power (Nigerian forces) arrived, Ikwerre had no option than to surrender and cooperate with them. Hence, Ikwerre actually fought the war on and for both sides.

After the war, some of the ill activities of the Igbo in Ikwerre were corrected. In the case of names, the Igbo first changed the original Ikwerre names into Igbo names in an attempt to force Ikwerre to become Igbo. So at the end of the war, some Ikwerre decided to assert their original names; hence, Igirita was changed to Igwuruta, Isoba was changed to Choba, Amaweke was changed to Rumuokwuta, etc. Even individuals suffered the same humiliation when their names were forcefully changed from Ovunda to Obinna for example. Even the original name of the Ikwerre ethnic group, which is Iwheruoha was changed to Ikwerre by the Igbo. Some names have been retained (like my surname) to reflect part of the Ikwerre colonial journey, just like a Yoruba Nigerian bearing the name Matthew. Does this make the Yoruba man an English man? No!

On a more serious note, if the Igbo insists that Ikwerre is Igbo, they should provide concrete sociological and historical evidences to prove their case beyond the whimsical factors of appearance, language and name, which no longer can correctly and truly define a people in today’s world.

The bolded.

Some m0rons on the edo Thread claimed they can differentiate 2 Southern Nigerian by looks. What could be more id10tic.

coogar:
a lot of people disagreed with his gong in 2007. he just had a one-off season where he won the champions league for milan.
by the same token, we can as well say milito was the best player in 2010.

kaka is a very good player but the difference between his ability in 2007 and now is not that huge.

Good example.

What makes torres different from a Milito for example Milito 2010, Torres 2008

nateevs:
Ability is the natural talent that cannot be taught.
The others are ingredients you develop to enhance the talent and become top flight and stay there.

How do you measure other abilities when the others are not there?

A footballer is talented but he is a cripple (physical abilities), A player is talented but he is mentally fragile and can only play in front of his family,

Please nateevs which of these 2 are good footballers

^^

No one in the world would say Kaka hasnt lost some of his abilities since 2007.

In 2007 Kaka was the Best player in the world, Now he wont be named top 10

nateevs:
It's lazy analysis to suggest that players lose the ability.
Ability is not all there is to top flight football.
Mental strength, physical strength, psychological stability all count towards a player's performance at top flight.
Players can lose any of those critical ingredients and they will fall from grace. However, one thing never happens - they never lose the ability.

I thought a footballers ability is acombination of all these ingridients to start with? (Mental strength, physical strength, psychological stability)

Or what is ability in your context if its isnt a combination of the 3 already.

Its like saying a cripple would have won 100m is only he had legs

coogar:
barely 2 years ago, you also told me berbatov lost his ability - didn't you?

In the realm of possibilities, we can also say its possible for Ronaldinho to come back to Europe and win 2 ballon D or

2008 thats 4yrs ago? thats like forever in football.

In 2008 Lucatoni was one of the best strikers in Europe, Less than 4 yrs later he plays in Al nasr in UAE

In 2008 Quaresma was probably one of the most sought after midfielder/winder in Europe, Today he plays for Besiktas

phreakabit:
LOLZ!!!! I think I struck a nerve there. Eyah no vex ehn. LMAO!

NRI PRIEST:
Bros,how about the "digital library" wey you promise Africa
Almost peed on myself laughing at this grass eating goat!!

Simple question you cant answer, How e take "consain" you?

If you wan attache inside the money make you talk instead of all these dribbling around

Just say it "I Parasite (insert name) wan chop h-inside the money"

^^ Spainish NT, Cheslea

2 teams with different tactics same result for Torres

coogar:
with his brilliant season in 2008, would chelsea have splashed £50m on him?

the ability is there. . . .players don't just lose their ability @ 27.
this is why i am asking you to diagnose torres' problems. . . . . .is it a case of torres is a rubbish striker or a case of round peg in a square hole.

Denilson of real betis, Ricardo Quaresma, Javier Saviola, Mateja Kezman, Sebastian Deisler, Patrick kluivert etc all lost their abilities irreversibly in their mid twenties (before 30)