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coogar:
yes, drogba in the sense that torres is often left on the bench when drogba is fit. i then said chelsea should sell drogba. . . . .play torres as the arrowhead and play mata behind torres. drogba is out of the picture but torres is still being played without a good supporting cast behind him. an intelligent player who can find a pass quicker ought to be played behind torres. . . . .lampard, ramirez, meirelez and other quacks are not good enough.

Now your prayer has been answered Torres no longer starts from the bench, He plays most games and in the last few outings against recently promoted Norwich, QPR and Swansea and still he fires blank

at least 8 of those 15 league goals were scored from the penalty spot and direct freekicks. if torres was given the task to bury from the spot, i am sure he would be in double digits by now. besides, demba ba is a physical striker. whether he gets the ball in front of the defence or he beats an offside trap is immaterial to him. he's almost a young drogba

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Demba Ba has scored 2 penalties only So that means he has scored 13 pure goals While Torres has scored 3 in the same time frame.

torres is not that sort of striker, i am afraid. fernando torres is like a taller michael owen.

Michael Owen gets into scoring positions and doesnt miss from inside the box. Torres cant seem to hit water even if thrown from a boat

which is why he needs mata behind him. . . like gerrard was behind torres.
the quicker gerrard and alonso supplied torres, the more goals he scored under benitez.
whereas in chelsea, no traditional wingers. . . . .chelsea rarely put crosses in. bosingwa has lost his ability to cross and ashley cole is just ashley cole these days. he's only arsed once in a month to put good performance.

He needs mata behind him to perform? Someone that has Mata time 1000 behind him in Spain. in person of Fabregas, iniesta, Xavi and Busquets yet still couldnt score to save his life.

It was because lampard was playing, lampard is out Now whats the next excuse? If lampard had played the last 3 games against newly promoted sides, I am sure all the blame would have been on lampard, Now he didnt play and Torres could barely get a shot on target.

argue like a man functioning on brain fluids not the one whose brain is powered by diesel.
what has no longer drogba, no longer lampard got to do with this? we are saying torres should get the ball quicker, you are telling us no lampard no drogba.
do you shyte from your mouth?

You were the one on this forum who told us Lampard is the reason why Torres isnt scoring.

--he did not fire blanks for liverpool.
--chelsea bought him because of his goal scoring prowess in liverpool.
--chelsea bought torres because he's scored more goals against chelsea than any other striker in the league.
--common sense then dictates chelsea should use him in the same way liverpool used him when torres scored good number of goals.

In 2010/2011 season He played half for Liverpool and half for Chelsea scored 10 goals in the whole season

In 2011/2012 with 3/4 of the season gone he has an incredible 3 goals.

nateevs:
@Dayo.

Like I told you, I won't be getting a lot into these arguments of Torres.
Look at the heat map. This is not a case of strikers finding space.
This is a case of no balls into the box in the first place.

We just don't have players who look to provide quality balls into the box.
When a team constantly puts balls into the box, bone Torres, even other players will get a sniff at goal and force saves off the goalie. Right now though, this is not happening.

This is a team issue and as far as I am concerned any striker will struggle to score goals.
Even Danny is no longer scoring.

IIRC, You posited some weeks back that Lampard was the one hindering these balls from finding Torres is that right?

Now Lampard is still out injured and same thing, Torres cant score

Why would players put the ball into the box when Torres doesnt even get into these positions, is it just to pump the ball and keeper makes routine catches?

Put Drogba(at 28-31yrs) or any decent striker(Demba Ba) in that number 9 and you would see balls coming into the box.

Danny is no longer scoring too which makes Torres barreness more pronounced.

You remember sometime back when you told us that Torres job is to keep the shape and not necesarily score goals?
How is that shape keeping panning out?

coogar:
this issue has been over-flogged and yet charlatans like dayokanu, ibime and bluediva still won't get it.

dayokanu thinks the absence of drogba would suddenly make torres score goals? how daft can someone be to think that way.
like i have been saying for more than a month - if the chelsea coaching crew would not play to torres' strength, he's a waste of space in chelsea.
if i purchase a player worth £50m, common sense dictates i build the entire team around my marquee signing, but that isn't the case in chelsea.

This was the same person who argued that playing Drogba was what stopped Torres from getting into his stride and even quoted Ancelotti that Drogba needed to be sold for Torres to flourish. Now Drogba is out of the picture, If you forget we dont forget,

torres is being treated like man utd would deploy michael owen in the team.
the only player capable of providing the through-ball is being shifted wide with mechanical players who are as slow as slugs deployed behind torres.
how's he going to score when chelsea rarely get on the by-line to deliver crosses? how's he going to score when torres has only been put through on goal just 5 times since he joined chelsea?

How many times was Demba ba put through to score 15 goals in half a season. If Demba Ba who wasnt even considered first choice striker fought his way into prominence now A failed striker is telling a team to revamp to accomodate him?

Well Torres personally said the lack of Spanish speakers and noise level disturbs him.

from the chalkboard you showed there, there's no way a striker who plays on the shoulder of the last defender would flourish.
chelsea's pace is slower than the revolution of the earth. i cannot imagine hernandez playing for chelsea, he would have been considered a flop cos it takes 5 minutes for lampard to spot a striker running through on goal.

It was because lampard was playing, lampard is out Now whats the next excuse? If lampard had played the last 3 games against newly promoted sides, I am sure all the blame would have been on lampard, Now he didnt play and Torres could barely get a shot on target.

i am sure villas-boas knows what the problem is but probably he's not a fan of torres. . . . .he wants roman abramovic to cut losses on fernando torres.

Ok We are making progress gradually, Its no longer Drogba, no longer Lampard, No longer the language, nor the noise level of London not even Spiritual cos David luiz delivered Torres yesterday Now its the coach who isnt a big fan of Torres

Hmm the plot thickens

i don't have a coaching badge but i can turn torres to the most prolific striker in the league if i manage chelsea for the rest of the season.
there was an opinion poll on redcafe 2 weeks ago. a staggering 60% said they would swap torres for rooney without any hesitation.
astute observers who know how dangerous torres can be know he's being left out of the loop in chelsea.
the system chelsea play and the misuse of the supporting cast is the reason torres is misfiring in chelsea.

Thats why 60% of those on redcafe are not coaches, Torres was firing blanks for Chelsea, Firing blanks for Spain two teams who play 2 distinct styles

So contrary to what you have been peddling for some time now,
Torres problem is not Drogba, Its not Lampard, Its not the absence of Mata Rather its Torres himself.

How does a striker receive a pass that frees him on goals?

How does Filipo Inzaghi receive this kind of pass and JD Tommason in the same club playing in the same midfield does not receive the same pass?

Its the movement and instinct of the striker that puts him in such situation. Another striker would play in front of that same Chelsea and get passes that frees him in front of goal.

Does Torres looks to make these type of runs that frees him in front of goal?

Let me use 2 strikers in the same club Chicharito and Berbatov. Both score goals While Berbatov helps in building up plays by holding up and laying passes, Hernandez is not interested. He is always at the shoulder of the last defender making runs, A lot of times he would be frustrated, caught offside etc but the few ones he gets right he buries

I have seen torres get the ball in decent position and makes tame attempts atimes doesnt even hit target. Like vs Norwich from inside the box

So the question is [size=18pt]if you were the coach What would you do with the situation when Drogba comes backand Torres cant still score in almost 6-7weeks[/size]

As an aside how come in the last 2 years no one has been playing to Torres strenght neither club nor country since 2010 spring

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How far?

How many more games do we need to give failure Torres?

How many times has he started without the interference of Drogba or lampard?

How many goals has he scored?

If you were the coach whose 10m Pounds job is on the line Would you still stick to Torres when Drogba comes back to town?

Its easy for coogar to say stick to Torres when the only thing he is staking is his NL monicker.

If you were AVB with a 10m salary on the line would you still stick to Torres after a month starting role in the number 9 position

Romney wins Florida with a 14point gap

Romney 46%, Gingrich 32%, Santorum 13%, Paul 7%

After 95% of votes

Total delegates to date

Romney 84
Gingrich 27
Paul 10
Santorum 8

Next 4 games

Vs Liverpool, Newcastle, Arsenal and Man Utd

not forgetting Stoke and Everton who follow

Crucial times for Spurs

MOST EFFICIENT STRIKERS IN EUROPE
PLAYER TEAM GOALS MINUTES PLAYED MINUTES PER GOAL
1. Higuaín Real Madrid 14 922 65'
2. C. Ronaldo Real Madrid 24 1,806 75'
3. Messi Barcelona 22 1,802 82'
4. Mario Gomez Bayern Munchen 17 1,477 86'
5. Agüero M. City 14 1.351 96'
6. Huntelaar Schalke 04 16 1,549 97'
7. Van Persie Arsenal 19 1,923 101'
8. Demba Ba Newcastle 15 1,540 102'
9. Podolski Cologne 15 1.554 103'
10. Ibrahimovic Milan 15 1,566 104'

werepeLeri:
In your yeye eye - 1100 = 1600? Dey get imported in [size=18pt]bashes[/size] mister frog.

Were you trying to spell BASHIRU there?

How markate?

Ah ah ah

Andy carrol don score for Liverpool oooooo

We dey wait for Torres.

isnt today the anniversary of his transfer from liverpool?

Yebariba Sanboribobooooo

Na Lampard cause am jare

naijababe:
Dayo, u don change your song o, wetin happen ?

Which song be that? Na still KWAM1 I dey play o

TEAMS: Chelsea: Cech, Bosingwa, Ivanovic, Luiz, Cole, Meireles, Romeu, Malouda, Sturridge, Torres, Mata.

How many weeks now since Torres has been playing without the Drogba interruption.

Pity I cant watch this game to see how he is performing

Also another game without the Lampard "interference"

DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!

So there is a game today?

When did EPL start this nonsense

Since the pump price was still increased by 50% Retardeen should at least give us 50% of those 1600 buses

diluminati:
kobo yuo haev crayz! yuor haed is nto in teh rihgt pleac

OP,

After a while the whole thing might start becoming boring,

All your homeboys you used to hang out together are all getting married infact one of my friends whom I thought would never marry got married last November in Colorado, NL Kokoye was there.

Now in your circle of like 12 friends like 9 are married or have baby mommas some of them have kids who are already 7yrs old, just 3 of you left, Going out isnt that fun any more as the much younger folks have taken over.

If you are around 30 and still hanging out with 22yr olds soon you would become an agbaya, Very soon your dad who used to be silent about such issues start bothering you with calls of when you would settle down

All your aunties start calling you everyone trying to hook you up with someone.

They now start the familiar story of how old would your children be when you are 50?

Your pastor starts calling you and ask if you have anyone in mind? Starts giving you the profile of the single ladies in church and all the bla bla bla You tell him that you are still paper chasing and he counters that all the succesful men started small with their wives
and they are now very succesful

This happened to my friend: His two younger brothers(Who were hard core players) got married

chaircover:
The answer to your question solely depends on if you are married to the right woman and if you are the right man for the right woman - Then Yes its worth it but No if otherwise.

Saga I knew that you would be here with Dayo following close behind

Present ma!!!

If not for time difference, i should have been here before Sagamite

So what are we saying

I dey laff. They are using to buses to transport petrol to filling stations

The eye witness could have been a minor, lets say a helpless 11 or 12 yr old student

There was an eye witness?

Fani Kayode is just trying everything possible to come back into the limelight

I dey laff

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