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LBT: Ronaldo have delivered for his country and all the clubs he played for; abeg let messi leave Baca for another club and the world would really know who is better. Note that messi has not done much for his country and he as played all his life for club baca only.

delivered what for his country? a tea spoon. if messi is bad for argentina then ronaldo is worse for portugal. messi has delivered for newels old boys and barcelona. as for ronaldo even an 1mbecile would deliver for a manchester united with giggs, scholes, evra, ferdinand, vidic, rooney, tevez, berbatov, van nistelroy, brown, solsjear, van de sar and the 'great sir alex fergusson'. even an average player would deliver with these superstars helping him. why didnt ronaldo go to westbrom or fulham to prove himself. you freaks should stop telling us about 'proving'

Dnaz: 2011 : Ronaldo scores more goals, Messi wins the prize because he won the league.

2012 : Messi scores more goals, Ronaldo wins the league but this time, it is judged by more goals...WTF ?

how was your nightmare? iam sure that you dreamt of messi lifting his trophy. keep lying to yourself, ronaldo has never scored more goals than messi.

[quote author=Great_Man]Congratulations Leo Messi!

The new debate now is: who is better? Cristiano or Iniesta?

The initial debate between Messi and Cristiano was completely laid to rest last night in Zurich.

Messi now stands taller than anyone from his generation. The whole world (in Zurich) gave
him a standing ovation as a testament to that fact last night.

Four Ballons no be moi moi![/quote]WTF are you talking about laid to rest last night the debate has been long over. it's been messi, pele, maradona for quite a while. only some desperate, disgruntled and unscrupulous elements have been mischievously arguing and arguing. they are mostly epl fans anyway. why would they love messi when he has consistently caused then pain.

it's just a pity that so many people here still go around yapping 'fifa' 'fifa' 'fifa' even when the voting pattern has always been displayed by fifa all through the years, and worse off is the fact that they seem educated chaps. next thing now they will say that all of the people who voted for messi were coerced by FIFA to do so.

blkmum700: i can't believe nigeria coach voted Toure Yaya

Coach Nigeria Keshi Stephen Touré Yaya Drogba Didier van Persie Robin


http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/ballond%27or/playeroftheyear%28men%29/01/98/07/84/fboawardmenplayer2012-bycountry.pdf

And for those of you saying Fifa is a cheat,you can lick your words and click on the link to see how messi won the fourth Ballon d'Or he has more vote than CR and Iniesta and always voted in the first category which is 5 point and appear in most of the vote.you guys can also check who your favourite stars voted.

it's just a pity that so many people here still go around yapping 'fifa' 'fifa' 'fifa' even when the voting pattern has always been displayed by fifa all through the years, and worse off is the fact that they seem educated chaps. next thing now they will say that all of the people who voted for messi were coerced by FIFA to do so.

JUSTICE WAS SERVED TODAY. LIONEL MESSI JUST HAD THE GREATEST INDIVIDUAL YEAR IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL, AND THEN HE SHOULD BE DENIED THE BALLON D'OR BECAUSE SOMEONE WON LA LIGA ALONG WITH 10 OTHER PLAYERS?

i warned those guys about messi but they wouldnt listen, now look at what they did to themselves: now they re gonna have a bad night now.

i warned those guys about messi but they wouldnt listen, now look at what they did to themselves: now they re gonna have a bad night now.

for me ive only been thinking about his 5th ballon dor. with about 36 goals already and la liga in the bag, messi is going for his number 5 this time next year.

for me ive only been thinking about his 5th ballon dor. with about 36 goals already and la liga in the bag, messi is going for his number 5 this time next year.

[quote author=A-40]Abeg Messi was a flop at the World Cup and Copa America!! Wasn't he booed at the Copa America? How can the bestest player in the World not score a single goal despite playing all the matches?? Was he injured! What is the excuse?? No one is comparing him to Higuain. I'm only stating why he can't be referred to as greater than Ronaldo De Lima,Zidane,Pele,Maradona
Messi's greatness starts and ends at Barcelona! Let's even agree he is a one club man! I for one don't belong to the school of thought that insists he has to leave Barca to perform at another club! However I do expect him to replicate that form for the Argies.
Only Barca fans would call him the GOAT. Greatest Of All Time My A$$!! When he conquers the World with Argentina that's when he would fully deserve that title. You can call me a hater if you want but it really doesn't matter to me cos I know I'm not one. Presently he is waay ahead of Ronaldo you would never catch me arguing to the contrary. What I take offence to is labelling him greater than Pele and Ronaldo when he is yet to win the biggest tournament of them all[/quote]you have consistently ducked my question which is this; messi hasnt won a major trophy for argentina and yet some say he is greater than maradona and pele or their equal. so what will happen by the time he wins one? it's even advantage messi because despite having not won the world cup a lot of football luminaries have rated him above his world cup winning rivals. well for me he is already the GOAT, and for you he's definitely NOT. some football fans think he is, others think he is not. even pele, some think he is GOAT, others think he is not. likewise maradona, some think he is GOAT, others think he is not. our debate is senseless. even if you take some zidane, take some pele, take some maradona, take some cryuff, take some de lima and mix them all up in a cup, there will be some fans that would tell you he is not GOAT. i would be an 1diot to think that the whole world would agree with us who take messi as our GOAT. a lot will differ and you're one. footballers who get compared to legends like maradona and pele do not come a dime a dozen. for me just the mention of messi in a sentence having words like maradona and pele is good for me. iam done and iam outtie.

FYI, iam not saying that messi is the best ever. i think that messsi is the GOAT, 30% of football fans think that messi is the GOAT, 60% of fans think that messi is top 3 GOAT, 90% think that messi is top 5 GOAT, 100% of football fans think that messi is top 10 GOAT. it's still OK that all the messi haters belong in the last category nevertheless.

[quote author=A-40]What do you mean by no defence line?? See excuse oh! Must he have Maldini,Gentile and Beckenbauer before he can win a World Cup? Before he can score just one goal!
When Argentina qualified from their group and trashed Mexico in the 2nd round no one talked about them not having a defence line! What does Argentina's lack of defense have to do with Messi in his prime not scoring a single goal in two major tournaments he played in!


Those are just mere compliments. What are they supposed to say? "Ehn Messi is just there" that would make em look like haters. You can never be the greatest ever in a team sport without winning its biggest tournament.[/quote]i didnt say sh1t about a defence line. ur man goddyjay did. like i said before its quite sad that a so called football fan would say that someone did not score a goal and so he didnt play well. would you say higuain played better than messi in the world cup? higuain must have scored a million goals but he wasnt half as good as messi. did you just say mere compliments. someone is being called the best ever and you say mere compliments!!! damn damn. in ABC, you just a hater. A-40 says messi must win the world cup b4 he becomes the best ever. sorry boss messi is in the league of pele, maradona, zidane, and cryuff. not cristiano and co.

ddippset: th8ts 8ccording to you 8-40. But for ddippset, rooney, etoo, f8breg8s, pep, souness, grondon8, 8rdiles, etc etc etc he is 8lre8dy the best best best ever. For wenger he isn't just the best ever he is from pl8y st8tion.

even k8noute h8d to swe8r messi isn't hum8n.

[quote author=A-40]That's all he needs to join that pantheon of immortality! To be World Champion[/quote]th8ts 8ccording to you 8-40. But for ddippset, rooney, etoo, f8breg8s, pep, souness, grondon8, 8rdiles, etc etc etc he is 8lre8dy the best best best ever. For wenger he isn't just the best ever he is from pl8y st8tion.

[quote author=A-40]That's all he needs to join that pantheon of immortality! To be World Champion[/quote]th8ts 8ccording to you 8-40. But for ddippset, rooney, etoo, f8breg8s, pep, souness, grondon8, 8rdiles, etc etc etc he is 8lre8dy the best best best ever. For wenger he isn't just the best ever he is from pl8y st8tion.

ddippset: you just shot yourself in the foot. 8 te8m with no defence line you s8id. So give him 8 good defence line 8nd the lil genius will deliver the world cup.

so becos he h8s got no defence line he c8nt be the best ever? Or you w8nt him to score, pl8y m8ke nd defend 8t the s8me?

goddyjay: In your dreams with a team with no defense line pls face the fact messi winning a major trophy like the World Cup is a dream

you just shot yourself in the foot. 8 te8m with no defence line you s8id. So give him 8 good defence line 8nd the lil genius will deliver the world cup.

hustla242: But in the midst of this insanity, I've found my Christianity through God and there's a wish he granted me," raps Eminem on "It's Ok." "He showed me how to cope with this stress and hope for the best, instead of moping depressed."
The rapper has admitted in interviews that he prays on a somewhat regular basis, but still releases music laced with profanity and sexually explicit lyrics.

http://global.christianpost.com/news/eminem-becomes-a-born-again-christian-87584/

very nice rhymes; in-s8-ni-ty, chris-ti8-ni-ty, he-gr8n-ted-me. Genius eminem.

[quote author=A-40]You don't have to agree with me that's why it is a forum!!
Who told you Ronaldo De Lima was not called the greatest of all time in his prime?? Please we are talking about O Fenomeno here not Cristiano
Go and tell the average Argentine that Messi is as good as Maradona and he would ask you what he has done outside Barca??
The greatest player of all time goes to the World's biggest tournament and doesn't score a single goal!! Are you for real??
Copa America hosted in his country with the Mighty Messi in his prime and not a single goal!
Stop it homie! Without a major international title Messi would go down as the Greatest Barca player ever but there's no way in hell he is going down as the GOAT[/quote]ron8ldo de lim8 w8s not c8lled the gre8test of 8ll time. In this gener8tion only messi h8s been touted by so m8ny 8s the best ever.we re not progr8mmed robots. We don't keep our eyes inside the go8l post do we?in the world cup higu8in scored 4 but w8snt h8lf 8s good 8s messi. In the cop8 messi g8ve 8 good show 8g8inst urugu8y only for tevez to throw 8w8y his p.k. I wouldn't tell the 8rgentines 8bout messi, I'd tell the world. The whole world is his jurisdiction. Messi isn't the gre8test if you s8y so. But let the world keep on comp8ring him to pele 8nd m8r8don8. Th8ts more thxn 8n 8chievement for 8 25 ye8r old. For me 8nd so m8ny he is not from e8rth.

[quote author=A-40]Don't get it twisted! I think Messi is better than Ronaldo by miles at the moment but to be the greatest he has to win the World Cup! Simples! Only Barca fans would argue in the opposite
100 WPOTY would not make him the GOAT without a World Cup! Its like Michael Jordan winning 10 MVP's and not winning the Championship yeah Messi would be remembered as a great! No different from Cruyff,Van Basten and even those ones came closer to winning International titles[/quote]th8t mike jord8n 8nology simply doesn't 8dd up.messi h8s won sever8l ch8mpions le8gue,l8 lig8,olympic gold, junior world cup,club world cup, super cups, etc. So wh8ts with the mich8el jord8n stuff?or m8ybe you need to s8y mike jord8n must win the b8sket b8ll world cup.

[quote author=A-40]Don't get it twisted! I think Messi is better than Ronaldo by miles at the moment but to be the greatest he has to win the World Cup! Simples! Only Barca fans would argue in the opposite
100 WPOTY would not make him the GOAT without a World Cup! Its like Michael Jordan winning 10 MVP's and not winning the Championship yeah Messi would be remembered as a great! No different from Cruyff,Van Basten and even those ones came closer to winning International titles[/quote]but w8it 8 minute: wh8t constitution tells us you h8ve to win 8 world cup before being the gre8test ever? Who s8id th8t? Where is it written? In the bible? In 8 fif8 m8nu8l somewhere in zurich? My common sense tells me th8t the gr8etest pl8yer of 8ll time h8s to show us his 8bility with the b8ll 8nd not wh8t 10 other pl8yers help you to win.

[quote author=A-40]Messi is the hottest property now no doubt but to cement his legacy as the G.O.A.T he has to win the WC. Its just the way it is! Its a ritual its a rite of passage into immortality Pele,Beckenbauer,Maradona,Zidane,Ronaldo have all won the WC that's why they would be talked about 50 years from now! Trust me if Messi doesn't win the WC he would probably be remembered only by Barca fan
He is fortunate to be from a football superpower so really he has no excuse[/quote]m8y I dis8gree with you sir.th8ts your person8l oppinion I think. He h8snt won 8 world cup but 8nytime the deb8te 8bout the gre8test ever comes up, messi is mentioned 8long with pele 8nd m8r8don8. Its not me, check ur internet, check ur tv. Zid8ne in his prime w8s not c8lled the gre8test of 8ll time, ron8ldo in his prime w8s not c8lled the gre8test of 8ll time despite their world cups. But see messi so m8ny people h8ve suggested him 8s the best ever, he is consistently mentioned in the s8me sentence 8s pele 8nd m8r8don8. So I 8sk 8g8in, wh8t would he now be c8lled when he wins the world cup?

K8i n8 w8 o. People will comp8re messi to m8r8don8, comp8re him to pele, comp8re him to ron8ldo de lim8, comp8re him to cr7, comp8re him to pele, 8ll 8t one inst8nce! Its just like seeking 8 bride for 8 king 8nd comp8ring the qu8lities one one to 5 others 8t the s8me stroke. Very unintelligent xnd unf8ir if u 8sk me.for 8rgentin8 messi h8s 8n olympic gold med8l, 8 junior world cup gold med8l,8 cop8 8meric8 siver med8l. More th8n wh8t ron8ldo will ever 8chieve. Messi even without 8 world cup or cop8 8meric8 trophy is still touted 8s 8rgu8bly the best ever, wh8t will h8ppen when he now wins one? He will be c8lled the gre8test in 8ll pl8nets m8ybe?

Oppinions 8re like bvttholes, everyone is entitled. If we org8nized 8 vote for the gre8test footb8ller of 8ll time, fe8turing 1000 footb8ll lumin8ries 8nd press men, messi is gu8r8nteed 300 votes. Ron8ldo wouldo would h8rdly get 8 lone vote. Th8ts 8 test8ment to messis gre8tness 8nd the gulf in cl8ss btween the 2 pl8yers. We c8n 8ll y8p 8ll d8y 8nd 8ll night on n8ir8l8nd.com but messi is the gre8test footb8ller of our gener8tion nd one of the 3 gre8test of 8ll time. B8rcelon8 ideology or not, x8vi 8nd iniest8 or not, world cup or not.

I know its h8rd. Messi keeps on bre8king 40 ye8r old records. You turn on your tv one old footb8ll legend is t8lking lionel messi nd c8lling the gre8test of 8ll time. You re m8d, you flip the ch8nnel nd 8nother legend is suggesting messi is the best ever. You re m8d 8g8in. There is 8dren8lin build up. You cnt be 8 guest on supersport or 8lj8zeer8, You c8nt hve your s8y, u cnt kill messi, you resort to being 8 n8ir8l8nd internet tough guy. Th8ts wh8t 8ll you messi h8ters re. Get re8dy its in 5 d8ys time, j8nu8ry 7. You will need your menfriends to console you 8g8in when he gets number four.

Seriously 8nybody who isn't 8 messi f8n is 8 footb8ll 8ntichrist so to spe8k. Just like johnp8ul s8id messi is the d8rling, the bride of world footb8ll tod8y. The world just w8nts to fvck him but the h8ters re m8d they cnt get the pvssy. Th8ts ex8ctly why they m8d.

[quote author=goddyjay][/quote]pepe only. If pepe couldn't kill messi then who could?

[quote author=goddyjay][/quote]8ll these people re kids stuff when you cosider wut pepe r8mos udjf8lusi could do to u. Pepe only

goddyjay: [/quote][quote author=coogar]is it that you don't have "a" key on your board or what is this drivel you are typing?

tempor8rily out of service. good u know wut 8 represents.

If messi c8nt score 40 in the epl nd ron8ldo did then why isn't ron8ldo scoring 100 go8ls in l8 lig8? 8fter 8ll ron8ldo is the most 8ssisted pl8yer in l8 lig8, with the m8drid superst8rs ozil de m8ri8 8lonso k8k8 nd co feeding him 8ll d8y.

goddyjay: RONALDO CONQUERED THE WORLD NOT THE EPL ONLY

which world? M8ybe u don't underst8nd my post. If ron8ldo still c8nnot outscore messi in l8 lig8 8fter 3 8ttempts even in the we8k l8 lig8 then messi will def score 50 in the epl. Do the m8th but he 8int going there becos the the legends nver did, nd they still do kick nd rush in the epl.