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pazienza:
Did Zik have an Image? The same Zik whose burial
Ojukwu, the greatest Igbo hero, deliberately refused
to attend? An “intellectual” who kept on seeking
unity with those busy slaughtering his own
brothers right before him on a daily basis? Edo was
never that cursed to have such an “intellectual”.
The fact that he is not celebrated means he is not
as valued as a chick. Is there any chick which is
unloved by its mother hen?
Read below the damning verdict Ojukwu, the Igbo
hero, slammed on Zik

Zik image is on your 500 naira note, A federal University in his home state is named after him, Abuja airport is named after him, numerous roads all over the East are named after him.

None of your Edo leaders, both Dead, living and yet unborn will ever be fit to tie Zik shoes.

Edo was always cursed with blood thirsty Obas that made people to flee from the empire of blood and Gore right from the precolonial era till Nigeria, when confused beings like Akenzua dissolved Nigerian regions, argued against decentralization of power and nudged Gowon to create dysfunctional entities called states.

Ojukwu and Zik were never all that in good terms, I don't think Akintola had anything good to say about Awolowo in the 60's.

The N500 image of Zik, the naming of a federal University after him, tha naming of Abuja Airport after him are the honours given to him by the same One-Nigeria in compensation for the massacre of 3 million of his brothers and you are okay by that. If truly It is worth identifying with then why are you people not thankful to Nigeria for that and thus remain back than asking for Biafra? You say Ojukwu is your true hero yet he has no image on any currency while the Zik who led you to Arewa slaughter house is being honoured by Arewa and you rejoice. Shame on you.

All precolonial empires including Nri were involved in blood rituals. But the difference is that post colonization Edos abandoned all that while the Igbos have continued even more the business of blood shed. Igbos in this modern times still drink blood, do blood rituals in quest for whealth, eat human flesh with Clifford Orji and Reverend King as living examples, etc. Abriba and Oguta people eat human flesh till today. Igbos are ferquently caught with human heads despite the modernity of the times, It was only in Igbo land that a governorship candidate, Ngige, was taken to an oath in a shrine to swear allegiance to godfathers, A hotel was recently reported found in Onitsha where customers are killed and eaten, etc. Are there cannibals of Edo origin like Clifford Orji and Reverend King?

pazienza:
Our votes is ours, we decide who to give it to. We voted for OBJ, when had Yorubas ever voted for any Igbo man in their existence?

Should we had voted for just the Igbo man, you would had still questioned why Igbos vote for only Igbos and never non Igbos. Lol!

And likewise our votes, as Edos is ours to decide whom to give it to. You voted for OBJ not because he was a Yoruba man but because he was the preferred candidate by the Biafra-Arewa Oligarchy just like how you supported Akintola as the Southern face of the Igbo-Arewa Oligarchy. When did Igbos ever vote for the Yoruba candidate preferred by the Yorubas themselves? At least some Yorubas even voted for Zik while Zik was the Igbo candidate which Igbos themselves preffered for the Western Region. How many Igbos voted for Awolowo in that election? Cheats!

When did you ever vote for an Igbo man and we questioned it? Do you mind giving examples?

obaaderemi:
I thought you were done replying that chap.He keeps dancing around in circles like a punch drunk boxer.

Thanks very much. He is really suffering from stupor. He has actually contradicted himself in all his positions.

pazienza:
Abiola was friends of Arewa, his mandate was an Arewa-oduanistan combo, and he was betrayed by Yoruba elders and traditional rulers who traded him for cool cash when it mattered most, misled him and watched him rot in prison. He was killed by Arewa people like Fajuiyi was killed, and Yorubas looked the other way as usual, looking to pin it on the Igbo man.
Hanging it on Ndiigbo is your usual reflex reaction of not accepting responsibility for your misadventures but instead looking to put it on Ndiigbo.
https://www.nairaland.com/3718091/bamaiyi-how-nadeco-leaders-betrayed

And the Tofa whom Igbos voted for was Arewa proper. If Abiola was an Arewa business then the other Southern States like Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Delta, Edo, Rivers, would not have preferred him. But Igbos preference for Tofa was anti-South. So Igbos are not really Southerners but Northerners.

Abiola was betrayed by the Yorubas descended from Zik's NCNC and supported by Igbos like Chukwumerigie and Arthur Nzeribe. Nnamdi kanu was another Abacha supporter in the quest for the furtherance of the Biafra-Arewa coalition against the all the other Southerners' position. Igbos are not Southerners.

pazienza:
It's on record that Awolowo treachery and deceit made it impossible for Zik to risk any form of alliance with him, and judging by Ojukwu- Awolowo later scenario, Zik was spot on in ditching Awolowo.
It had also been shown that Awolowo had no qualms forming alliance with military dictatorship North, as we saw his alliance with Gowon, and could had still done a similar thing if Zik didn't move fast in 1959.

We also know that in 1979, Awolowo was fully paid for his treachery in 1967-70 by Ndiigbo, and was once again left in the lurch.

We also know that just as he attempted to usurp the government of Balewa in 60's just because he was left in the cold, so did he try to Usurp Babangida government in the 80's and was caught for a record second time for treason crime.

It is on record that Zik started the game of treachery when he left the NYM and went back to mend fences with Herbert Macaulay to form NCNC despite the fact that Zik was party to the formation of NYM on the consensus and agreement (rightly or wrongly) that they should all abandon Herbert Macualay's NNDP on account of its "archaic" ideas.
Ojukwu was the one who ditched Awolwo again because he had already agreed to Awolwo's demand for two weeks to think thoroughly about violent secession but just three days later he delared Biafra.

What happened in 1979 was not any paying back of Awolowo by Ndigbo. It was only a replay of Ziks quest for the Biafra-Arewanistan marriage. You have already said it here that Zik and Ndigbo's preference for Shagari was based on who the winner was and not necessarily about the rancour between Zik and Awo. Moreover Zik already called himself a beautiful bride available for the highest bidder. So it was a matter of which side the grass was greener rather than some stupid theory of repayment. If it was about repayment why could Zik not reject Arewa as a repayment for the massacre of Igbos in the war? If Ndiigbos were so good at repaying for treachery, what treachery were they repaying Ojukwu for in the same 1979 when they voted against Ojukwu for Senate in preference for a relatively unknown guy?

In 1959 Zik and Akintola were the ones who scrambled for the Arewa Alliance and the former pulled a fast one over the latter hence Akintola's grievance with Awolwo for his allofness about the Arewa which made Yourubas lose out to Igbos portfolio wise, and his eventual battle to bring Yoruba into the mainstream which he knew Awolowo would always frustrate except he sees to the incapacitation of Awolowo with the help of the Zik-Balewa coalition.

The Babangida story is Bunkum because with his rabid paranoia about suspected coupists he would have killed at least the army officers who worked with Awolowo. Moreover no army officer has ever been mentioned as the ones Awolowo worked with in trying to oust IBB. When OBJ did it to Abacha the army officers and other accomplices involved, eg Yaradua, were mentioned to the public. So the whole thing is Igbo propaganda of hate.

pazienza:
Well, elections all over Nigeria, including the East was same, it was the era of rigging. It was OBJ era of do or die politics. We can only analyze the final result before us.

Lagos is a highly multiethnic state, it's not exactly a model Yoruba state. Moreover, Tinubu had his own rigging machinery that cancelled out those of PDP, since Tinubu refused to dump AD.

Self consolation galore. Lagos is still most dominated by Yorubas to about 65% put at conservative estimates. How could Tinubu's machinery have overpowered the presidency's which was more oiled with cash from the huger Federal Purse? Your logic stinks!

pazienza:
Igbos already voted for PDP in 1999 when Yorubas didn't because they had the luxury of knowing that head or tail, a Yoruba man would emerge the president, as two Yorubas were the frontrunners. How then can it be said that we joined Yorubas to vote OBJ in 2003? More like the tribalistic Yorubas joined Igbos to vote OBJ, because the only other choice left would have been to vote a non Yoruba.

If they had the luxury of knowing that a Yoruba man would emerge head or tail, then why did they bother voting at all? OBJ was a candidate of the Igbo-Arewa Oligarchy and not the Yoruba's choice, so they campaigned against him.

pazienza:
Because he was was contesting against another Yoruba representing a Yoruba party in 1999. Don't be dumb.

Then was OBJ's party a Yoruba party in 2003 in which you claimed Yorubas supported him? Don't be daft and stupid!

pazienza:
You are a blockhead. What's the relationship between the post you replied and the trash you wrote above.
It seems like your schizophrenia is getting resistant to your meds, or you forgot to take your meds?

Lagos always had more Igbos than OYO which is Yoruba hinterland, this very fact nullifies your pathetic attempt at trying to link the high percentage of votes for Shagari in 1979 in Oyo state to Igbo population there, seeing as Lagos with a higher Igbo population had less votes for Shagari in 1979.

You are a beast reasoning with your joystick. Lagos did not always have more Igbos than Ibadan. In fact Lagos being initially a very small territory had less population than Ibadan hence where Lagos had just 4 seats in the Federal Parliament, Ibadan alone had up to 10. Moreover As at the time in reference - 1979- Oyo had more Igbos than Lagos as Ibadan was still the largest city in West Africa as of then. Go back an check your history books. You ignoramus!

pazienza:
Considering the allegation that Buhari committed
genocide on Igbos during the war, as narrated by
the Igbos themelves, the 20% from Imo is more
outrageous than Edo’s 40% where he did not kill a
fly during the war.

Lol! Unfortunately, the point is not about Imo state. The point is about Edo.
Your pathetic attempt at hiding behind Imo 20% votes for Buhari, who was running against a non Igbo in GEJ to explain away why a non SSner gained a whopping 40% of the votes casted in a supposedly SS state against a SS president is at best desperate.
Buhari or any non Igbo for that matter won't be able to get 40% of the votes in election where an Igbo is a frontrunner. We saw this in 1979 and 1983 presidential elections.

You are a big fool. Do you think at all before you write?
Did Obasanjo (a non-Igbo) not get over 75℅ of Igbo votes in 2003 election where Ojukwu (an Igbo) was a frontrunner? Did Yaradua (a non-Igbo) not score over 90℅ in all Igbo land in 2007 election where Orji Uzor Kaku (an Igbo) was also a presidential frontrunner? Are you sure you're not suffering from memory loss?

the point is not only about Edo but about comparing Igbo with Edo. It is not about SS but vs SE but about Edo vs Igbo. Thank God you already said the SS is an artificial creation not recognized by the constitution and also that Abacha die before he could implement the plan to recognize regions. So SS can't be made a reference point because, according to you, it does not yet exist.
Edos voted 40% against a non-Edo man who did not address their interest while Igbos voted 65% against a fellow Igbo man (Ojukwu) who
did not only champion their interest but sacrificed his bright future and enormous inherited wealth for them) in acceptance of a Yoruba man who was an integral part of the group which chased Ojukwu with the intention of giving him a disgraceful death by hanging. The difference is too clear. Jonathan was not an Edo man yet we gave him 60%. Ojukwu was an Igbo man yet Igbos could not give him 25% in 2003. Also in 1979 Igbos voted 75% against Ojukwu when he sought to represent them at the senate. The Difference is clear.
Buhari would not have been able to get 40% in an election where an Edo man genuinely concerned about Edo interest is a forerunner.

pazienza:
Where was it written in the annals of Nigerian history that non Igbo members of NCNC opposed Ziks NCNC "United Nigeria" campaign?
Not Mbu, not Eyo Ita, not Imoke, not Akpan, not the Yoruba NCNC contingents.
It was a party decision and Zik already made that clear in his speech without any ambiguity. And no high ranking non Igbo NCNC stalwart in that era challenged that decision.

Were the Yoruba NCNC members a majority in the party for their voices to be heard? Were you expecting Zik to really come out and declare that he was going to use force to prevent secession when he was clever enough to have known that such would give him away as a pretender? What you look at is not people's words but their actions which speak louder. If he intended diplomacy, then why did he remain mute when Britain was using threat to back the anti-secession clause sentiment in his favour? Silence is consent.

pazienza:
This is once more coming after having earlier said
that there were already many Igbos in the West
hence their domination of NCNC. However history
shows that even before 1900 Igbos were already
scattered among other peoples in very large
numbers. For example Zik was born in Zungerua,
Nger State, Ojukwu too the same Zungeru, Michael
Okpara – Keffi in todays Nassarawa; meaning that
their parents had moved to settle in the North
before amalgamation.

Lol! And how exactly did the above explain away why Shagari got 10% of votes in Oyo and couldn't do same in Lagos.
Are you saying that Yoruba hinterland( Oyo) had more Igbos than Lagos state?

You are a joke.

Very silly logic again! I thought you already said Obasanjo's failure in Lagos in 2003 was highly due to the cosmopolitan nature of Lagos as against the other SW states where he "won" on account of having more indigenous populations than Lagos? You are incoherent! Was the Igbos' 10% for Shagari an indication that they were more in Oyo than the Yoruba's who gave 90% against Shagari?

pazienza:
And the Zik who first came into the UPGA,
abandoned them again in it for the Arewa
controlled NNA was stable and free of treachery?
The truth is that Igbos can’t tolerate what they
enjoy doing to others. When you pay them back in
their own coin they term you a traitor.

Akintola already abandoned AG to form NNDP with Kayode Western NCNC faction and ended up in the NNA, maybe you should be more interested in him than Zik who as a president didn't have the power to form central government without coalition with NNA who had the majority votes already. NNA wouldn't had broken southern alliance without men like Akintola and Kayode who swelled their powers.
Zik NCNC still stood with UPGA in the western region election face off between AG( UPGA) and NNDP( NNA).


The only traitors here were Akintola and Kayode. Zik was only trying to make the best out of a very bad situation after the election boycott failed.

We are talking of how Zik after the 1965 elections abandoned the UPGA to go and team up with his old friends now as NNA after and this one is talking of Akintola's formation of NNDP from an AG faction which was a 1962 event. Are you okay at all?



Zik was not making any thing out of a bad situation. He was power hungry. Would it not have even been better if he had accepted the census results thus remained with his Arewa friend in the evil NPC-NCNC coalition that first join UPGA and then turn round again to the side of Arewa? Why start a fight he could not fight let alone finish? Why reject his Arewa friends in the name of fighting against a falsified census only for him to again go back to join the census falsifiers when the falsified census had not been corrected? What situation was he trying to salvage by allowing a falsified census stand?

Why was Zik even still interested in forming the central government at all with the Arewa to warrant the need to align with the the Arewa-controlled NNA despite the latter had by their actions made it clear that they were out to subdue the South and his own Eastern Region especially? Zik was a fool! Stop defending him. He is responsible for all the mess and irrelevance you people have fallen into till today.

pazienza:
It was the same way they
supported Akintola and the North when he
appeared to share the same Anti-Awolowo
sentiments with them only for them to later
painfully realize that the objective behind
Akintola’s resistance to Awolowo was actually
aimed at dislodging Igbos from their alliance with
the Arewa.

No time in history were Ndiigbo in alliance with Afonja( Akintola), we simply stayed off Akintola reenacting of Afonja-Alimi story in Western region. Your attempt at dragging Ndiigbo into Awolowo greed and leadership failure that alienated Akintola and created chaos in the Western region will always be exposed time and time again here.
Akintola was a Yoruba problem, the East could care less about his battles with Awolowo as both of them were for all intents and purposes, bitter Igbophobic "tribalistic" Yorubas.

Ndiigbo were never in alliance with Akintiola yet all of them on the floor of the Federal Parliament voted in favour of the law retroactively made by Balewa to re-instate Akintola against the Privy Council's verdict. The same Ndiigbo section of the Western House Assembly joined Akintola's Yoruba supporters to disrupt proceedings towards passing a vote of no confidence on Akintola. One of them even broke the Western House Mace in support of Akintola, yet Ndiigbo did not collude with Akintola? You are an ignoramus.

pazienza:

By the way one keeps wondering who ever went
into any accord with them about the war or Aburi
Accord to warrant the accusation of betrayal. Igbos
are the real traitors in Nigeria and that is why
nemesis is against them.
Of course the invasion of Ore was part of the whole
thing. Despite having colluded with Arewa to
persecute fellow southerners, they again invaded
their territories without any negotiation or apology.
Who would fold his arms and watch such
aggressive and undiplomatic fellows?

Don't be dense. The Aburi accord was between Biafra( Eastern region) and Nigeria( Edo, Arewa-oduanistani).
The nemesis you speak of already caught up with Edo, that's why your empire of blood and Gore was ransacked in a matter of 2 days by the British, even Aro confederacy offered a better opposition to the British.
And to make matters worst, Edo is a non entity in a minority region, a freak of nature. Deal with it.

You are yet to prove how Zik colluded with Arewa to prosecute Awolowo. You have so far been exposed front and back and your weak arguments punctured time and again. Keep clutching as straws.

When Akenzua, Enahoro and co were in Lagos plotting the invasion of East with Gowon, you never thought there would be a reaction from the East, and that invasion of Nigeria, Edo inclusive was going to be part of it?

You were the aggressors, Biafra was fighting for its freedom from you lots.

You are a big fat fool! The war accord is different from Aburi Accord. Why do you have comprehension challenges? Who and who signed a document of agreement with Ojukwu to jointly prosecute Biafra War to warrant the later accusation of betrayal? Can you produce such document?
Aburi Accord was between Igbos and the Nigerian Establishment which composed of the Establishment's representatives from all tribes including Igbos. As long as the Edo's elected leader in the person of Enahoro, and the Yoruba's elected leaders in the person of Awolowo were not invited, then it was purely a jamboree between the Ojukwu whom the Igbos had come to accept as their leader and the Nigerian Establishment which Zik created. Once again you are a fool devoid of logical reasoning.
And you have never been able to explain why Ojukwu refused to invite Enahoro and Awolowo only for him to start seeking their support after the whole thing collapsed. He initially, as usual, went it all alone with the Hausa Fulanis like Zik too did, and when it collapsed exactly like before he began seeking the support of those he never consulted before he went. Igbos their shifty loyalty. Freaks in nature!

It was after Ojukwu invaded the Midwest and West that Enahoro and Awo rallied to Gowon's side to plot the repulsion of Biafra and not the other way round as you are trying to distort. Get some sense!

pazienza:
[b] On the
other hand what can really be pointed to as GEJ’s
concrete achievement in connection with the SS
Question? While children were having classes under
trees and people drank water up to 60% polluted
with crude oil in SS communities GEJ’s was took
as much as N500bn out of a peltry budget of
N4.5tn and pumped into building, in the North,
Almajiri schools only for Northerners to later
discredit and reject them as an attempt towards
educational segregation. What is the use of having
in power a SS son who actually pandered more to
Northern interests than the sufferings of his own
people? He abandoned the entire South and Middle
Belt which voted for him but spent all his time
trying to please the Hausa-Fulanis who did not
only vote against him but started killing and
burning houses immediately he was declared
winner in 2011. And that was the kind of person
you wanted Edos to vote for once more and by
over 80%? You think Edos are foolish like Igbos?
And without prejudice to the rigging that explained
the very delayed results of the other SS states, I
would let you know that other SSners never
pretended about GEJ’s failure to address the
fundamental problems of the SS. In fact his most
vocal critics within the region were his own Ijaw
brothers. Asari Dokubo never missed an
opportunity to make it clear that GEJ failed the SS
but that his support for him was just about
balancing the power equation in Nigeria. http://
www.premiumtimesng.com/news/111270-
jonathan-has 0-failed-niger-delta-asari-
dokubo.html. A section of Asari Dokubo’s speech
reads: “
Monkey no fine, but the mama like am, but when
the ugly monkey becomes so rascal, the mother
will desert it because if the mother continues to
like the monkey in its ugly rascality, she too will
die with the ugly monkey, after all she has more
than one monkey child…... It is alarming that the
SS must have its uninterrupted eight years tenure
but with the way things are going under Jonathan’s
watch, we are afraid that we may not be able to….”
I guess you’ ll say Dokubo is from SW/NC
Other blunders of Jonathan which turned Edo
against him are:
--- his giving of national awards of honour to
rogues like IBB who institutionalized corruption;
Abacha the murderer of Saro Wiwa his (GEJ’s)
own brother; OBJ who ordered genocide in 1999 in
Odi in his own Bayelsa home state; etc for what
he, GEJ, himself described as their contribution to
national building. He ironically ignored the Ken
Saro Wiwa who pioneered and got matyred for the
fight that made his presidency as a SS man
possible as if to say that all Saro Wiwa’s
championing of resource control, restructuring and
bioremediation of oil polluted areas was an act of
nation destruction thus his refusal to honour him
with an award let alone raise a national monument
in his name. He refused to convoke a confab until
Okorounmu and Nwabueze pressured him into it
which he reluctantly succumbed to. At a time
nearly every one in the SS was getting more
enlightened about the structural basis of Nigeria’s
failure, Jonathan began to argue that Nigeria’s
problem had nothing to with structure but
corruption which once killed every other thing
would just fall into their places. Also, at a time the
Northern military elite establishment of the Katsina
Mafia was being suspected of responsibility for the
Boko Haram national insecurity GEJ sacked a
fellow SSner, Azazi Owoye, as NSA and replaced
him with a Nortrhern military elite, Dasuki. Also in
pursuit of his attempt to attract the huge but
falsified votes of Kano Jonathan which he should
have rather sought to correct, he, on Kwankwaso’s
request, sacked Festus Odimegwu as NPC
chairman just because the latter spoke a bitter
truth about Nigeria’s census history which pricked
Kwankwaso’s guilty conscience. Was that Kano
vote not later to drown him? Did Kwankwaso
eventually deliver those votes to him? The same
Jonathan hounded Ibori overseas in the name of
corruption whereas OBJ, IBB, and other Northerners
whose loots makes Ibori’s a child’s play walked
free. And that was the kind of person you wanted
Edos to give 100% votes in the name of SS
solidarity. Was GEJ himself showing any solidarity
to the SS course or rather to the Hausa-Fulanis?
Rather than revisit Saro Wiwa’s comprehensive
blueprint on the Niger Delta demands from the FG
Jonathan was satisfied with the amnesty offer
which was mistakenly accepted by the political
elite of the ND against the preference of the Okah
Brother’s whom he hounded till he was kicked out
of power.
The same person gave a N9bn worth pipeline
protection contract to OPC leader Gani Adams
while people people in the riverine areas of the SS
lived in shanties. [/b]



Isn't it interesting that despite all these your dogoturenchi concoctions, the whole of True SS were still behind GEJ, including Asari, and a True Niger Deltan Orubebe was willing to fight for GEJ mandate when JEGA declared the result?


You ever wondered why? Hehe!

That you have not been able to deny all these failures of GEJ as regards the SS question is an indictment on you.
Asari, in the context of the genuine Niger Delta interest, was not a true Niger Deltan. Here was a man who abandoned his boys in the creeks and, in the spirit of betrayal of the struggle, accepted being bribed into submission by the Yaradua/GEJ government with an offer of a suit permanently in a five star hotel in the same Abuja he complained was developed with Niger Delta wealth, slammed into mute mode with cash with which he established a university in Republic of Benin whereas educational development of the Niger Delta was part of his purported struggle, etc. And till today he has become more of a typical Nigerian politician than a freedom fighter. The same Asari Dokubo recently and ignorantly took a swipe at urhobos, Itsekiris, Ogonis and other non-Ijaw tribes of the SS for what he described as their wanting to share the benefits of the struggle undertaken by Ijaws alone. Unfortunately he found no one to remind him that Ken Saro Wiwa (an Ogoni man) was matyred for the Niger Delta struggle 11 years before he himself (Asari Dokubo) ever enlisted into the Niger Delta struggle. He also did not know that an Itsekiri man (Pa Alfred Rewane) was assassinated by the Abacha Junta 13 years before he (Dokubo) ever thought of joining the fight. He also was ignorant of the fact that another Itsekiri woman (Temi Harriman) in the spirit of the Niger Delta struggle floated a bill on the floor of NASS about 5 years before his own Niger Delta activism started. He also was ignorant of the fact that an Urhobo man (James Ibori) and a Bini man (Lucky Igbinedion) began the fight for resource control 7 years before he (Asari Dokubo) started his fake one. How many would one mention? Was it therefore a surprise that Dokubo found it comfortable to blindly keep rooting for GEJ despite he himself acknowledging that GEJ failed? Moreover he confessed that he benefited immensely from GEJ and common sense therefore dictates that his rooting for GEJ was built on pecuniary benefits than genuine commitment to the fundamentals of the SS struggle. Apart from Igbos, with their belief in blind loyalty like they gave to and keep giving to the Zik who led them into Hausa-Fulani slaughter house, who would use Dokubo as a reference point for commitment to the SS Question? Orubebe was more or less another Dokubo in the sense that to him all that mattered most about the SS struggle was to have a SS person in power irrespective of his woeful failure to address the SS Question. Who, apart from Igbos, uses Orubebe as a reference point?

The genuine Niger Delta activists of the moment are the Okah Brothers and MEND leaders who, till today, are still languishing in jail or prosecution for their unbuyable loyalty. While the likes of Dokubo, GEJ and Orubebe were accepting the Amnesty offer under Yaradua, the Okah Brothers rejected it on the grounds that it was never captured in Ken Saro Wiwa's recommendations, that it was an offer which defined freedom fighters as criminals who were asking for state pardon for fighting a just cause, denounced Jonathan for being a betrayer of the struggle by accepting amnesty despite knowing the meaning on account of his educational attainment, etc. Hence they never supported GEJ. While they were trying to bomb Abuja which was developed with funds stolen from the Niger Delta, Dokubo, with GEJ's backing, was living in one of such Abuja hotels accepting that he was a criminal for fighting the same struggle. Only a fool like you would, in your typical Igbo logic define Dokubo, GEJ and Orubebe as genuinely concerned Niger Deltans. The choice of the 40% Edo's reflected a reasoning in harmony with the Okar Brothers and MEND which as well rooted for APC. If not for the rigging by the PDP governors in the other SS states as explained by the protracted delay in their results, the same pattern of rejection for GEJ would have shown through. Edo could not be rigged because it was not a PDP enclave.
You are indeed a simpleton!

IGARRA people in edo don't speak Igala. They actually speak EBIRA language.

You are wrong too. Igarra people speak Etuno (Oshuku) language and not Ebira.

pazienza:
5. Without prejudice to the fact that Igbos are
actually more unrelated to any SS ethnic group, I
can tell that you exude ignorance of the existence
of Edoid tribes like the Egenni, Epie etc in Rivers
and Bayelsa States. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Engenni_people. https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/
weekly/index.php/notes-from-atlanta/13466-what-
s-really-president-goodluck-jonathan-s-ethnic-
group

Lol! What do you know? Those languages are classified Edoid, it doesn't mean they have anything to do with Edo. The language is not mutually intelligible to Edo, neither do the people consider themselves Edoid. Igala is also classified Yoruboid, so what?
Even Igbanke in Edo is fighting to leave you lots and join Anioma, who wants to be associated with expansionists? Ehkwa! Lol

Why then do they agree that they all originated from Benin and moved outwards over the years?
If you understood Igalla you would have known that the language captures a lot of Yoruba words.

Nowenuse:
It's really funny seeing Igbos accusing Yorubas and Edos on partnering with the north, when everyone knew they started romance with the core-north first.

they are hypocrites. Pure and simple! They are now crying blue murder over the game they started.
The most stupid aspect of this Igbos' pioneering role of partnering with the North in 1959 is that in the election proper only the Eastern Region made the record of rejecting the Hausa-Fulani party 100℅ as NPC scored zero there, i.e no single person voted for the party at all in Igbo land as against other regions where they managed to get just a few votes, yet Zik took them into into an alliance with NPC the party they had completely rejected at the polls and rather than condemn Zik's decision to align with NPC as non representative of their statement at the polls they sheepishly applauded him and began to rationalize it with theories of Zik's vengeance for Awolowo's cross carpeting game which was itself a big fat lie.
Very pathetic tribe!

It was an Eastern region affair, it was into Eastern region he dragged Boro back and not into Nigeria it just so happened that Eastern region was part of Nigeria.
This is illogicality and madness of the highest order. You are becoming due for psychiatric hospital. Was the Eastern Region an independent country of its own?
Boro announced that he was breaking away from Nigeria and not from the Eastern Region. Ojukwu and Ironsi accused Boro of treason against the Nigerian Government and not against the Eastern Region, then they sent him to Lagos, Nigeria’s capital, for trial and not to the Eastern Region’s capital of Enugu. They had him sentenced to death by the Nigerian Supreme Court and not an Eastern Region’s court. So it was a wholly Nigeria’s affair.

Boro- Ojukwu issue was a strictly Eastern region affair that had nothing to do with Edos or Yorubas. Ojukwu was the governor of Eastern region and was never going to allow any part of the region breakaway overnight without due consultations and probably a referendum.
And similarly Ojukwu-Gowon issue was a strictly Nigerian affair and therefore had everything to do with all other parts of Nigeria hence Gowon would rightly never allow any part of Nigeria to break away without a referendum which the Aburi Accord did not represent.

Trash! Neither Edo nor Yorubas had secession plans in the past, present or are they likely to have one in the nearest future.
Igbos never even believed there could ever be a reason for them to seek secession as they imagined that they would always be in charge of the British fraud. It was only when they lost hope of control of the fraud that secession occurred to them.

And what military dictator ruled by another's decrees? of course he naturally had to repeal Ironsi decrees so as to to promulgate his. Only in your delusional mind do such translate to wanting to hand over to civilians.

Gowon Decree 8 was not about re democratization, it was about gaining total power, unshared, the like every dictator naturally wants.

Aburi ensured the power was shared and made future secession easier for all regions.
And if Gowon’s decrees were meant to unilaterally gain power just like every other military dictator, then what gives you the conviction that Aburi Accord, a new set of rules equally made by even more military dictators, could not also have been meant to place power unilaterally in the hands of the military establishment? Only in your hallucination was such an all-soldiers affair going to be in the interest of the democratic populace.

Really? Yet Awolowo and Enahoro were willing to serve under a military dictator that ruled by decrees and not constitutions. How Ironic.
I don't remember Awolowo or Enahoro asking Gowon to resign before the war and hand over power to the civilians.
That is irrelevant. Gowon promised Awolowo and Enahoro a return to democracy but Ojukwu had already started grandstanding with “On Aburi ALONE we stand” meaning he was no longer open to review of the Accord which was obviously highly flawed in the eyes of Enahoro, Awolowo and a host of other stakeholders who were never consulted. Had he allowed for review and input by the politicians who were not initially carried along, there would have been a common ground acceptable to everyone.

Not until you show me the part of Decree 8 that made mention of Gowon relinquishing power to the civilians.
Gowon did not really come to make new decrees but to repeal ironsi’s. He actually promised to return the country to democracy, and that does not need being said through any decree.
Aburi Accord contents were not decrees but resolutions supposedly discussed and analysed. So why should such be devoid of a concrete agreement on return to democracy?

There are many Professors today in many fields of human endeavour in Nigeria who despite the knowledge of hindsight still believes that Nigeria will work in the future.

Zik was not infallible.
Yu missed it totally. The focus here is not just on degree but the very course which Zik read – Anthropology- which deals with cultures and their evolutions. A core tenet of the course upholds that seeking to govern a highly diverse country with a strong centre and weak regions is unworkable and leads to bloodshed, and that holding together a diverse people against their will definitely lead to a clash of cultures and its attendant blood letting, yet Zik made himself an advocate of unitary system disguised as calls for “One-Nigeria”. He advocated for disregard of cultural differences and artificial and overnight breaking of cultural barriers against the very slow natural pace it ought to take. Is there any anthropologist you know today who, like Zik, believes that an overwhelmingly strong centre is better for Nigeria?

Exactly, I was in no position to dictate for him. But I'm well in position to dissect, expose, analyze and judge his actions and character. And that is exactly what I'm doing.
You can expose and judge his character but you are not in a position to say whether Zik’s one-Nigeria thrust was motivated by an ulterior motive, right?
Mind you that Zik made that 1964 speech as member of the UPGA which was already calling for a break up due to the badly rigged censuses and elections by the NNA, but later abandoned the UPGA for the same NNA. If that was not treachery then what was it? And you think the other UPGA guys would have let a later opportunity to teach him a lesson in betrayal slip by? You wanted them to identify with Biafara project at a time they saw the same unstable Zik calling the shots in it? Why did Ojukwu allow Zik’s presence and even leadership role in the project despite knowing that those whom he was courting for support had suffered numerous betrayals in the hands of that very Zik?

But he subscribed to use of violence in preserving his geographical entity. What is worst? Or is this still part of his vendetta against Zik?
Of course yes, because Zik was on the side of Biafra at the beginning. More importantly, however, that was the only option left for Awo to use in protecting his people. Thirdly he could not have sided with the Igbos (who jailed him and wished him dead) to fight against the Gowon who released him. That would have been ingratitude an an absurdity. Can you explain what yourself would have done differently if you were in his shoes at that moment?

Treachery is claiming to be a proponent of secession clause to make future secession easier, only to help a military dictator Marshall plans on how to entrench Unitarian government, dissolve the regional settings and create dysfunctional entities.
Treachery had already come from Ojukwu’s side through the invasion of the Midwestern and Western Regions against the earlier agreement that the leaders of the regions would be the ones to declare their own secession. Ojukwu’s invasion was preemptive and was itself treacherous of the earlier agreement. And forget not that the centralization of power started with Igbos through Ironsi’s military fiat against what was agreed in the 1957 London constitutional conference. That was itself another treachery on the part of Igbos. Ironsi centralized the civil service against the decentralized format earlier on agreed to by every region.

Treachery is claiming to abhor the North, only to embrace not even a democratic Northern government, but a military dictatorship and even went as far as becoming its mouth piece and brainbox. That's. Treachery.

Wrong! In line with their traditional preference of Middle Belt to the Core North they aligned with a Gowon and not a Hausa-Fulani. A military government headed by a Christian Middlebelter was obviously better for them than a democracy headed by A Hausa-Fulani islamist with an Igbo man as a junior slave partner ready to do dirty jobs.
Treachery is a violation of an allegiance established by a formal agreement. Awolowo had no formal agreement with the Igbos as to the war. The only informal agreement he had with Igbos was that against the background that he, unlike Ojukwu, did not have any single soldier under his command let alone a whole army, and coupled with the preponderance of Northern origin soldiers in his region, Ojukwu should give him two weeks to think thoroughly about the bargain. Ojukwu agreed only for him to declare Biafra just three days later without consulting Awolowo again. Who then was actually guilty of treachery?

When they do vote others, they are tagged politically naive, slavish and incapable of uniting for common goals. Hehe! It's interesting how the rules are constantly being bent to cast the Igbos in the shadow of villains.
Whenever they vote for others then there is must be an Arewa attraction in it. Only GEJ’s time was the exception.

I see, When Igbos vote themselves, they are questioned on why they didn't vote others and then tagged tribalistic.
And have Igbos ever actually voted themselves? Why others criticize them is that they were the first to allow themselves to be used by Arewa as spoilers against the South. They started this whole problem in 1959 when they aligned with the North against their supposed fellow Southerners. That was the genesis.