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Yes ooo
I concur prof.

Including prof. WOLE soyinka for conniving with Rotimi Amaechi to steal Rivers state #80million to host birthday dinner for prof.WOLE Soyinka.

Including Rotimi Amaechi your close allied for stolen from Rivers state treasure to sponsore Buhari election

TonyeBarcanista:
Our Democracy is modelled after the United States that doesn't allow immunity for even Governors. Only the President and VP should have immunity from Civil offences.

We say No to Immunity, it is a sure way of promoting impunity.


PS: On checks, the supposed immunity does not extend beyond what is done on the floor of the Parliament. This is also existing in Nigeria.

The article rightly pointed out every immunity in the parliament doesn't extend beyond the floor of the house.But in Nigria context,every activities in the floor has an interference from external forces directly and indirectly.A deviation from the order of the external forces mean anti-party activity and subsequent punishment from the interest group by proxy.

wirinet:
The alleged offenses are false declaration of assets and falsification of senate rules.

It is obvious that this new clamour for absolute immunity for legislators is all an attempt to prevent Saraki from facing prosecution.

It is you that seem to have comprehension deficit disorder, you posted a highly unrelated article to attempt to justify absolute immunity for Saraki and his colleagues.

please can you scroll upward to find out the definition I gave regarding legislative immunity according to Nolo's plain law dictionary , my position on legislative immunity and stop hyperventilating around in this thread.No oxygen for you in case you tip into hypoxia

wirinet:
Thank you my brother, absolutely false information. No country the OP mentioned grants "absolute" immunity to legislators. What they are talking about is immunity on the floor of the legislative house and immunity from civil matters.
The Nigeria legislatives already have legislative immunity on the floor of the national or state assemblies. If Saraki was in any of those countries mentioned, he would still undergo prosecution for the alleged offenses.

which alleged offences are you referring to and where in this thread was Saraki mentioned.Learn to comprehend simple article before you commend.

The definition of legislative immunity as defined by

Nolo's Plain-English Law Dictionary
Legislative Immunity
A legal doctrine that prevents legislators from being sued for actions performed and decisions made in the course of serving in government. This doctrine does not protect legislators from criminal prosecution, nor does it relieve them from responsibility for actions outside the scope of their office.

This would have being a welcome development in this part of the world.Especially to prevent executive interference and rascality.This will go a long way to act as check and balances regarding freedom of speech,freedom from arrest on civil matter and freedom of investigations of certain executive activities without interference from the executive. By extension we have a balance system of governance
But the question is.Wouldn't our legislatures abuse and bastardise the whole processes?Nigerians we need to change our orientation and approach to things to be in contention with the committee of other nations.

5 countries where legislators enjoy immunity ON JULY 13, 20167:00
By Clifford Ndujihe, Deputy Political Editor
Across the globe, many countries have a measure of immunity for the legislature to ensure stability of the polity and sustenance of democracy. House of Representatives in Nigeria during plenary.

United Kingdom

In the United Kingdom, lawmakers enjoy Parliamentary privilege, which is a legal immunity enjoyed by Members of the House of Commons and House of Lords. It is designed to ensure that Parliamentarians are able to carry out their duties free from interference. The privileges are freedom of speech, freedom from arrest on civil matters, freedom of access to the sovereign and that ‘the most favourable construction should be placed on all the Houses’s proceedings.’

Turkey

Turkey is one of the countries where lawmakers enjoy immunity. However, last May, Turkey’s parliament ratified a bill that stripped some legislators of immunity from prosecution. Championed by the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP), the bill amended the constitution, adding a temporary clause to remove immunity from a total of 138 deputies – the exact number who are facing criminal investigations. The bill allowing criminal charges to be brought against legislators was signed by President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on June 7.


India


The Indian Parliament also has “privilege and immunity” that signify certain special or exceptional rights of Lok Sabha or Rajya Sabha or its individual members which are generally accepted as necessary for the exercise of their constitutional functions. There are privileges that are enjoyed by members individually and these include: Freedom of speech, Freedom from arrest and Exemption from attendance as jurors and witnesses. Under Freedom from Arrest: no member shall be arrested in a civil case 40 days before and after the adjournment of the House (Lok Sabha or Rajya Sabha) and also when the House is in session. It also means that no member can be arrested within the precincts of the Parliament without the permission of the House to which he/she belongs. When a member of the House is arrested or detained, the authority concerned should immediately inform the speaker or the Chairman regarding the reasons for such arrest. A member can be arrested outside the four walls of the House on criminal cases under the Preventive Detention, ESMA, NSA, POTA or any other such Act.

Philippines

In Philippines, Article VI, Section II of the Constitution grants lawmakers immunity. It provides: “A Senator or Member of the House of Representative shall, in all offences punishable by not more than six years imprisonment, be privileged from arrest while the Congress is in session. No member shall be questioned nor be held liable in any other place for any speech or debate in the Congress or in any committee thereof.”

Australia

The principal parliamentary immunity in Australia is the immunity from civil or criminal action, and examination in legal proceedings, of members of the houses and of witnesses and others taking part in proceedings in Parliament. This immunity is known as the right of freedom of speech in Parliament, because it has the effect of ensuring that members, witnesses and others cannot be sued or prosecuted for anything they say or do in the course of parliamentary proceedings. This freedom of speech has always been regarded as essential to allow the houses to debate and inquire into matters without fear of interference.

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/07/immunity-legislature-countries/

Ok

The desperation of APC to take over power from PDP in 2015 made them to lost touch with reality and were clapping and celebrating every misfortunes befalling PDP, forgetting posterity with caught up with them.karma is a bitch.
Ike EKweremadu is the siiting DSP and there is nothing anyone can do about it.John Oyegun and his co-travellers should bury their face in shame for trying to interfere in the activity of the national assembly

Banana republic where nepotism and tribalism is the criteria for selection for job and appointments
Northerners are seen as the only trust worthy people to serve in this adminstraction.But for defending the certificateless General in the court for his certificate suit.Majority of the attorneys were hired from the south. Useless adminstraction with senile leadership.

Naija which way with APC .It is either they are imitating or they are suppressing.
Aisha Buhari distributing food items in some northern states-stomach infrastructure.
Kayode Fayemi distributing food items in Ekiti state-Stomach infrastructure.
The problem is Nigerians are hungry and any crumbs from the politicians will be celebrated.
So why the initial tantrums and insult melted to Fayose by APC and their zombie supporters.

Make I hear say senators wouldn't questions a living hell out from him during the exercise.This is the turn of some senators to take their own pound of fresh.
I just mount with one bottle of orijin and fresh fish pepper soup dey observe.which one be my own.

blackpanda:
For security reasons the 1st lady cannot embark on commercial airlines for trips. Thats just common sense. Michelle obama doesnt use commercial airlines and neither does most presidents wives.

Now, what I will quarrel with is if she packed hundreds of entourages like madamme pepe used to do under the IB regime

For security reasons the first lady is using the presidential flight.So why change the promise of my wife or family member will never use the federal resources for any personal affair.Since there is no office of the first lady as promised by Buhari.
The distribution of food items,is it an NGO or another failed promise of indirect first lady activities.

On which capacity is She acting.Since there is no office of the first lady as enshrined in the constitution and Buhari had scrapped it.
The distribution of food items are sponsored with whose money?Is this another stomach infrastructure or a conduit to siphon our common wealth.

"My wife or family will NEVER use federal resources for any personal or family affairs. We must bring an end to this impunity. No FIRST LADY issue during my reigns, we must bring sanity and discipline to the presidency".

-Muhammadu Buhari answering questions at Ibadan, during APC Presidential campaign.
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Now, who is this woman? And it is just one out of many promises Buhari has change.What is she doing with Nigeria presidential flight?

INEC and inconclusiveness are inseparable.A court judgement was made in portharcourt and you didn't get the ruling of the court .But you honour and witness the primary of Markafi camp but refused to witness the primary of Sheriff.However ,you are confused and undecided on whose camp to accept their candidates after several court rulings nullifying sheriff chairmanship and upheld Markafi's own.
Let this not be what am thinking.If this INEC is awaiting order from above.

The writer of this piece is a product of Ameachi delusional followers.Who is trying to appeals the minds of Niger Deltans for their obvious hatred for the man Amaechi.Who has no respect and decorum for elders in Niger delta and the betrayal of the geopolitical region.I read through the piece and it is nothing short of how Amaechi is trying hard recently to justify his Judaism,unguarded insults to former president Jonathan and his regrettable sale out of the region ambition for A Fulani man.To respond to some of the lies ,you peddled in your write up.
From abi nitio Wike never had the ambition of becoming Rivers State governor.Ameachi ambition of becoming a Senator which happen to be the same senatorial district with Wike raised the fight.Wike with all sincerity told Amaechi to dropped the ambition for another region.Who supposed to produced the next senator from that senatorial district.Amaechi stubbornness and refusal made Wike to nurse the ambition for contesting the senatorial seat with Amaechi and latter change his mind to contest for governorship just to spit Amaechi and make sure Amaechi doesn't plant his stooge as governor of Rivers state.
Amaechi recommendation of Wike for ministerial appointment was not born out of love for Wike but a ploy to sent Wike to Abuja thus keeping him away from Rivers politics.Since Wike was no longer comfortable with Amaechi ambition and ways of governance in Rivers state.Amaechi indirectly wanted to thwart the same appointment of Wike as a minister after his recommendation for God knows why.But Wike got wings of this and ran to Patience Jonathan with evidence of how he played a major role in Rivers state to GEJ election 2011 and was embrace by patience and Jonathan thus creating the enemity among themselves.
Creating of GDI in Rivers state was not aim at GEJ re-election neither for Wike ambition but was an idea for keeping PDP on ground in Rivers state.Since it was obvious Amaechi was leaving PDP.
And for your Amaechi loving Jonathan,You obviously lied.Amaechi never loved Jonathan after their fall out.He was busy insulting and abusing Jonathan without decorum.Even till date he is still suffering for the same hatred for GEJ.
Amaechi had the ambition of becoming vice president after his fall out with GEJ.That played out during the choosing of vice president for Apc which see to the nomination of osibanjo by Tinubu.
For citing of oil well to Bayelsa and Akwaibom was a decision of the court not GEJ do to Boundary adjustment.Get your facts right.Stop feeding the public with false information regarding the dockyard in Bonny

EFCC and penchant for media trial.The frozen of Fayose's zenith account did not bring the desire attention from the media.This is another stunt hoping it will meet their desire target.
Meanwhile EFCC should help and recover the #1.5billion Fayemi donated to Buhari for his campaign to Ekiti .

PDP it can't never get better except you learn to ignore the stunt being created by Ali Modu sheriff.You allowed this by creating a crack on your wall thus allowing the serpent( Ali modu sheriff) to come in and bite.
Placing an order for his arrest is a call in futility.The moral he is operating from, has a backing from his in-law.




Muhammed Sheriff(,son of Ali Modu sherrif ) husband to Halima Buhari daughter of Muhammad Buhari

Chineke nna emegokwanu Jonathan nwa ogbenye Ezege.Every thing he does,we just they celebrate.Everything he does,he just dey penetrate. Buru ekene,rewee Otito fada,fada eeehhhh,fada fada eehhh,eeehh.
Jonathan the man wey sabi.
Ride on sir,our hero of democracy.
Your are truly a good man with a good heart with good intentions for your country.Irrespective of your short comings.The life of Nigerians was wort more than your ambition.
They hate you but you still show them love.
Today they are blinded by hypocrisy,suffering and smiling.
Your economic antecedents,they are imitating .

NgeneUkwenu:
Senseless!!

Your new job specification from Ministry of information is to jump up and down in this forum in any news regarding PDP down fall.Bad news for u,your intention and desire will be short live.PDP is a party to beat in the fort gubernatorial election in Edo state

I also enjoined him to start robust campaign.Lets see who will waste his funds between him and Markafi candidate.Ndiara

Buhari wants to crush artificial hindrances to anti-corruption with the karate he learnt from the Shaolin temple when he visited China.Ndiara
The economy is nosediving into recession.People are suffering,high cost of living with inflation at geometrical progression,massive retrenchment in the Labour sector
Somebody is busy chasing shadows in a direction less,clueless and confuse manner in the name of fighting corruption. God please forgive anybody that brought this calamity called president upon us.

Today 4th July is independence day celebration in USA.Wish them,happy independence anniversary

Ok

TonyeBarcanista:
The law must take its course. Though Ikpeazu should have approached the same court for a stay of execution pending the outcome of his appeal at the Appellate Court.

I don't think an Abia High Court can override the order of FHC Abuja.

I have to admit that Ikpeazu is on a very thin rope

sometime I wonder what you stand for.What happened to the 21 days window for appeal and stay of execution.Why the hurry for INEC to issue certificate of return to Uche ogah.Who told you an appeal can't hurt a case.All the election nullified by tribunal and subsequent appeal.Why didn't INEC hurriedly offer certificate of return to the index case.
Any constitutional analysis from Femi Falana and Agbakoba should not be taking serious cos they are APC programme lawyers.Wait for Mike Ozokheome,he has always made a valid and acceptable opinion that stand the test of time.

It is obvious to the blind and audible to the deaf,Justice Okon Abang is an APC stooge judge with an order to create confusion in PDP camp.It is unheard of, in an organisation where a selected individual as chairman stand legal against the backdrop of a man choosing by convention.Convention (congress )is seen as the highest decisions making body of any organisation.However Markafi was choosing through the convention thus is seen as the legal chairman of PDP.
Justice Okon Abang what antecedent are you keeping for your self.The most controversial judge in recent time.Who does APC dirty deals.Does your position deserve partisanship align with political affiliation.Posterity will judge you.

ayindejimmy:
which sense?
plzzzzz , you guys should stop thinking like politicians .
so if a mother disowned a son, does that mean she didn't give birth to him again ?

which party was he in when he contested the gubernatorial ?
Moreover , he didn't leave pdp

When making submission bordering on political analogy.Try to choose a comparison that can be carried.Liken of suspension of a party member to disowning of a son by a mother doesn't hold.once you are suspended by a party for any reason. You are automatically denied every benefit accrued to you as a party member thus can transact as member of the party with the public.
He contested the gubernatorial primaries as a PDP member and came up as 2nd.He is doing an anti party activity and is under suspension.Thus he is not eligible to be seen as PDP member and can benefit from PDP mandate.

As Uche ogah has been suspended as member of PDP.On which party mandate is he going to ride on.Logically, he is no longer member of PDP, by extention can't enjoy the election won by PDP.Since he has not being sworn in thus can't defect to another party and be sworn in to enjoy PDP mandate.
I think there is so much sense in this move by Abia PDP .Let's see who will laugh and save the best for the last.

@Ngeneukwenu,
why is this dude always jumping up and down like Matomys natalensis(lassa fever rat)on any matter concerning rancor in PDP. When have you suddenly become an over interested member of PDP that is crying more than the bereaved.
Ali Modu sheriff an Apc mole in PDP rancor .You have always being cerebrating it like your life,successes, good health and prosperity are tied to it.Now you have ported to Uche ogah and ikpeazu legal tussle.Don't you have a life and future to build rather than seeing to another man's down fall.To What end will this be to you.
The economy of this country is suffering with gross and palpable hardship.No thanks to your Hero,Buhari.You always loss your voice on such matter of imminent importance
For the Abia state leadership confusion.You and I understand INEC is acting a stripe written by some forces aiming at destabilise the state.Once a ruling had being made by a court.The affected individual is given a 21 days to react to the ruling of the court by way of appealing and stay of execution.But INEC hurriedly issue certificate of return and your likes are here clapping for them.

Politics of bitterness,intolerance from the witch broom waving spirit party.
A property that was built by tax payers money and by another party not even APC had suddenly turned out to become Oshiomole's personal property.If you feel you have a popular candidate that is saleable.Why not test his popularity in the market than this childish attitude of refusal of public property.

frankline5:
Please nairalanders in US should help us check if aisha is there as we were told

please any nairalander should help us with the update especially if you are resident in Colorado.
Then those of you in Saudi Arabia should equally report if she has already left Saudi for US since we were told she went there for lesser haji.
Your brothers in Nigeria need your sincere help.Since non of our media houses here is competent enough to report the events.