₦airaland Forum

I can not believe young Nigerians have embraced laziness and wished to dim the light of enlightenment in nairaland. It is a case of irredeemable idiocy for anyone to regard original or alternative names of certain ethnicities in Nigeria as derogatory.

Must we always go to our graves with what the silly Europeans and colonialists handed down to us? Are we not human enough to explore our history other than the craps Europeans impacted on us? I remember someone posted interesting facts about Igbo as a derivative of Gboo (Ancient or Old or Original) people. Ndigboo could have been anglicized as Ndigbo or Ndibo depending on the European airhead that scripted the pronunciation for further literary work. The same goes to Yoruba, Yooba, Yoro.ba or Yoruba. I recently found out that Hausa is also known as Hausawa,Haousa, Ausa and Habe etc.

How does writing Igbo, Hausa, Yoruba etc curb any form of bigotory? Nobody can simply force another person to love, like, appreciate or befriend another person. It is human to dislike period.

valicious1: Am not doubting the fact that mandela read achebe's books neither am i arguing the matter with you but what you've failed to understand is that Nigeria & Africa had always been on the limelight even before achebe wrote his novel in the 50's so you saying achebe popularized Nigeria & Africa is mere fallacy. Am not also arguing with you whether achebe is more respected than mandela or vice versa cos that would be lame. You are not ready to learn so no need to teach you

In the 50s and backward, Nigeria and Africa are known as dark masses without history except the ones Europeans created for them. The Africa was known as a place for wild animals and slaves. If you doubt, I pray you read “Heart of Darkness” by Joseph Conrad the feel-happy bible of Europeans gospel about melancholic Africans. Achebe’s “Things Fall Apart” and his blistering criticisms of Joseph Conrad and his heart of darkness twisted Europeans out of human form and they swore not to award him the idiotic Nobel Prize. Of course, Achebe I know would have rejected nonsensical Nobel crap for what it represents.

valicious1: You comparing achebe with mandela has just shown how high your levels of illiteracy & ignorance are. Its dumb & obtuse people like you that always allow ethnic sentiments blind their sense of judgement. You don't know me or the state I come from & I don't know you, I wonder then what sense you make by saying my state doesn't have someone of achebe's standing. I pity those that 'liked' your post cos they've just shown how foooolish they are (he who supplies stones to a mad man with which he throws at people is also a mad man)

You are a load of ignorant heap to remotely insinuate that Achebe pales in comparison with the so-called Nelson Mandela. It is only in a moronic world that people regard imprisonment for any possible reason as an achievement. Remove the idiotic “White and Black” dichotomy from Mandela’s RSA, Nelson Mandela becomes as irrelevant as many Africans who have gone to jail for opposing despotic leadership where the silly European creation known as Black and White does not exist.

Sir, you are a living example why Africa is ridiculously backward. I bet you can not name any other African who fought for equality in Africa from a country other than Republic of South Africa. The attitude you displayed in the above post compares favorably with that of a monkey. Please develop the idea of having independent thought not the crap Europeans fed you through their silly unfounded “Black and White” dichotomy.

Jungle

Chubhie: By humanity i mean the total world human population deviod of tribe,religion or creed. You need to upgrade your myopic tribal viewpoints to a birds eyeview.

I am not surprised Africa is teeming with despotic airheads who seemed to have their own definitions of everything under the Sun. Do you envisage I give a ratazz about what you think?

Chubhie: My loyalty is with Humanity. Thanks.

I am extremely suspicious if you understand humanity talk less being loyal.

Genius100: Ikenna, continue the good work. Forum rules are forum rules. If you can't abide by them, feel free to leave and form your own forum. Banning Usernames is not enough. The moderators need to look into banning ip addresses, so offenders can't post from the same device after getting a ban.

Censorship is worse than tribalism. Do you think this site can not be forced to fold?

Ikenna351: When Jesus Christ was on Earth carrying out his mission, the Scribbes, Pharisseas and Sadduccees were shouting and attacking him "Who is this thing? The son of a Carpenter to come and tell us about the good and bad? Who is he to come to tell us the trained priest, lawyers, etc, what is wrong or right? " Of course, Jesus knew what he would face in their hands before he came for the mission. At the end, did he succeed or not? Why is the whole world celebrating him, both Christians and non-christians, after he had finished what He came for and left? Answer that yourself. Yes, am not Jesus Christ, but i do know what it would take to cleanse a system. Guys, trust me, i knew what i would face. My point is, Am Well Prepared!

Tribalism! Hmm! State of being loyal to ones tribe. Isnt it?

A school of thought would argue that the root cause of underdevelopment of most African countries, including Nigeria, is Tribalism. When looked it in all ramifications, the truth in that thought is so glaring. Some had gone far to blame the colonial masters for laying the foundation of tribalism in African countries, that had crippled the economy of the continent. But then, for how should we blame someone that left your house and you keep blaming him causing trouble between you and your wife, after decades?

Tribalism! What led to the first massacre or slaughter of human beings in Nigeria? Isnt it tribalism? When a certain tribe felt that the first coupe in Nigeria was lopsided, and the perpetuators of the "crime" were left unpurnished by one of the accused tribe that killed their tribal spokesmen. The massacre of Igbos in the north began, which led to the civil war. Did it stop there? No. Even after the way, the hatred has been eaten deep into everyone, such that a small issue would lead to another slaughtering of Igbos in the North, even before Boko haram saga started. Triablism! Hmm!

When one becomes so loyal to his tribe that he is willing to inflick pain another fellow human being to prove his loyalty to his tribe. Yes, thats Tribalism we have in Nigeria. When one is so loyal to his tribe that he can go any lentgh to defend his tribe by instigating hatred in the minds of the young ones that " He is your enemy, hate him with passion and insult him in a manner that he would hate you back and keep his distance". Yes, thats Tribalism we propagate in Nairaland. To loyal to ones tribe to do anything, no matter how evil it is, to defend or prove loyalty to ones tribe. Yes, there is nothing with tribalism, after all, its institutionalised in Nigerian constitution or law. Thats how we rationalize the promotion of Tribalism in Nairaland.

If you could intimidate my co-mods, sorry guys, you have met the wrong person. Dont worry, you guys are just starting to know me.

If Mr. Seun wakes up in the morning and decides Ikenna351 will no longer mod this section. Guess what i would do? I will find a quite place, kneel down, look up and say "Thank you for giving me that little opportunity to do a good thing for the public for free". Yes, i owe humanity something. This is one of them, no matter how long it lasts. But as long as i still see myself as a co-mod here, i will carryout my method of sanitizing this section to the later. I will say it again, Bring It On!

I remembered when the Igbos were starting various threads in this section, everyone was shouting why should tribal topics meant for the ethnic section be allowed in the Politcs section. They were all later moved to the ethnic section, where ethnicity should be discussed. Now, extreme tribalism should not be discorouged in this section, so that we will see more people to instigate and haul tribal slurs to. Good to know.

Freedom of expression! It means i have the right to insult and curse an unborn child in your wife's belly and wish her dead. Yes, thats freedom of expression. It also means i have the right to curse your child to sleep tonight and not wake up in the morning. Yes, thats freedom of expression. Of course, you would say abomination. Whoever say such a thing should be stoned to death. Well, it will make sense. But when it comes to insulting another tribe with offensive names that would pain the other tribes insulted, then it should be allowed because "thats freedom of expression".

When you approach a lady you want to toast and found out she is from Yoruba and you are an Igbo, if you call her a Yoruba and she frowns her face, would you call her Yoruba again? Knowing what your mission is? Of course, you wouldnt, but them its ok to call everyone them here the name, because you dont care how he or she would feel. Rather, it will make you more happy if she feels bad. Isnt it. Of course, you would rationalize it by siting a book where a prominent man used the word Yoruba, but you wont dare say it that chick you want to date for obvious fear of rejection. Good to know.

Finally, you are pouring water on a rock if you think you can intimidate me, no matter how you guys gang up. Lets see how it goes.

Ikenna.

I am not religious and it is unfortunate you have introduced Jesus Christ into this discussion, a method very peculiar to irresponsible Nigerians.

It does not come to me as a surprised when people construe the stupidity of drunken leader as tribalism. Let me sound a note of warning to most Nigerians, if Ironsi was half as wise as an average 10th grader the incident of July 29, 1966 would not have happened and the cesspit called Nigeria would not have witnessed a civil war.

There are numerous Igbo peeps who are roaming around like a drunkard Ironsi. Baring the accident of British colonial suzerainty called Nigeria; most jokers would have no chance to discuss tribalism.

If I tell a young lady that she is a Yoruba or Yooba and she frowns at my suggestion, I would instantly end any love lust therein because she is an intellectual midget. I am not surprise at your stinking suggestion about the instance of lady and Yoruba because you have sounded like joker whose joystick controls his mental balance.

If you are a rock, I suggest you stick with it but do not in any way or shape impede the learning curves of numerous well-meaning individuals who visit this sight for enlightenment.

Chubhie: the admin has seen urgent need for this line of action and elected ikenna for this noble mission. If the admin has seen how tribalism has affected his business negatively and then decides to act and you are here crying foul bout this nobel campaign.... This can only make you an enemy to reposition his private business for new heights. Agreed that tribalism may have gotten this site to this level but there are still new heights to attain and the admin is only being wise by trying to reposition his business.

The post above cut across ignorance and laziness. The style of poster's writing paints a picture of a person who uses the word – illiterate to describe a person who can read and write.

Can you humanly inform me how “tribal consciousness and loyalty” leads to bad business? I do not know your ethnic background and do not wish to know because you seem to lack loyalty to your ethnicity. By the way, whenever you have time to visit you aged forbearers in your village, I plead with you to purposefully miss your way.

I have known before now there are ridiculous twists surrounding the story about Oduduwa as told by Yoruba revisionists. The Yoruba who were driven away from Oyo ile by Fulani and Nupe can not have connections with Oduduwa of Ife.

Ikenna351: I love this. God has a way of bringing out the truth: The mouth that speak lies, will someday speak the truth.

Since you have acknowledged there is a section carved out for you tribalists, what are you guys doing here in this section? You can even become first king of tribalists in that section you know.

Relocate their and spread your poison or virus. Once in a while, we will peep in to know to see how many have survived the virus. At least, we will make sure you guys are quarantined there.

Ikenna.

I hope you are not being carried away by the position of moderator on narialand. If not, it is unfathomable what granted you the effrontery to insult me by the above crap you vomited.
I wish you are saddled with incurable virus that will have you quarantined for the rest of miserable life.

Ikenna351: Life can be so interesting! See as all the tribalists are gradually showing themselves here, giving me the opportunity to note them, making the task easier for me. God, you are so wonderful! Please keep identifying yourself, the roll-call is still on going.

Ikenna.

Bros, I hope you are not deluding yourself. I can cease to navigate to nairaland today and it will not matter a stench. I wished there is a billable slot on nairaland to mark time of visit. I am Igbo chap and not Yoruba, Habe, Fulani, Ibibio, Ijo, Edo, Itsekiri, Urhobo, Tarok, Birom Efik, Angas, Tiv, Idoma, Igala, Jukun, Kanuri, etc.

Nothing can induce me to change my skin spots. I shall even die as Igbo chap.

Prof Corruption: True. "Tribalism" is institutionalized in Nigeria.

It takes a lapper not to know tribalism is institutionalized in Nigeria. There are federal character and quota system policies aggressively pursued by the federal government of Nigeria. Even credit should be given to the people who initially designed this site for having the presence of the mind to carve out a section aptly called Ethnic, Racial or Sectarian Politics.

dayokanu: Why the guy no name am Ohafia abi him village dey shame am?

Afrik is arguably the biggest African Store in the area in discussion.

Ikenna351: "....Unfortunately, some of the Igbos were raised outside the Eastern part of the country. They are the ones that would argue that Ibo is the right pronounciation and spelling, rather than Igbo. Well, i wont blame them. Few of our fathers who had their formal education during colonial era wrongly still write as they were taught by the whiteman. Some are still victims of mental colonization. Ibo maynot be an issue outside Nairaland, but it has become one in Nairaland, deliberately used to instigate tribal war in Politics section. For the sake of peace,please use your Ibo outside Politics section. Likewise, dont address anyother tribe with an offensive name, claiming you read it in a book or you found it on google.... "




I thought they claimed you tribalists in this section are intellectuals? Whats difficult in understanding the above quote?


Some are hidden, while the edited ones have been unhidden. The grace period on Ibo & Yoruba is on countdown.

Ikenna.

What has nairaland turned into lately? Why all these idiotic censorships? Please note that nairaland is not a gateway to heaven or even hell. I know few knuckleheads who would think it is gateway to hell.

Blog sites are places of learning the good, bad and ugly. There are many dumbass junks who did not know Hausa is also known as Hausawa or Yoruba is known as Yooba or Igbo is Ibo. Even lately, I had to find out that Taroh is Tarok.

Nigeria remains a tribal melting pot until otherwise noted. According Dr. Nathaniel Fadipe, in his book published in 1944, it a delusional idiocy for any Nigerian to think he\she is detribalized.

dayokanu: Dendemoron
So you sef now agree that Ojukwu was an extremist like Biko Haram

Dayolodo

Leadership requires an iota of extremism, olodo. For once in your sorry life, I urge you to act like a scholar. Good to hear from you again and it is delightful to note you were not among the unfortunates ones stabbed in one of those backwaters called town in Texas.

dayokanu: Ojukwu extremist At last some people get it

Dayolodo

I hope you do not want to die as a dummy. Have you seen or heard of a leader who meant really well for his\her people that is not an extremist?

danny301: You are talking thrash.... I don't know of any Middle-beltan calling for any support Ibo. Ibos are not able to fight their own fight left alone fighting for middle-beltans. At-least the middle beltans are protesting the killing of their people by hausa/fulani but if i may ask, when last did Ibos protest the wanton killing of their people by the same hausa/fulanis?... After the massacre of Ibos in Kano recently, instead of protesting or asking their people to relocate the national Chairman of Ohanaze went in company of some traditional leaders to pay homage to their slave masters (hausa/fulanis) and declared their support for amnesty..... Ibos only protest the killing of their people on the pages of news papers and behind their computers but middle beltans do their protest on federal roads with sticks and matchets..... I takes several trucks of heavily armed soldiers to calm protesters from the middle belts but its takes just [b]ghana must-go [/b]not only to calm eastern protesters but to also rescind their initial claims ..... So dude, you can now see that ibos are they least qualified to speak or fight for the middle-beltans

Dummy301

You have always come across as a dummy. Please change your handle name to Dummy301, it is appropriate. To the best of my knowledge, Ndigbo have no use for any idiotic protests and riots. Nigeria’s history can bear me witness. However the day Ndigbo decide to riot about any social decadence in Nigeria, it will amount to war.

Since the series of idiotic political and religious riots in northern region of Nigeria, Ndigbo have only been angered to retaliate once and those who witnessed it wished it never happened again. I can not remember any public disturbance organized by the people of middle belt talk less of riot that requires truck loads of heavily armed soldiers to stop. I hope your play station is not putting you through certain pranks.

It is unfortunate that the chickens have come home to roost. Again, it is unfathomable when most people think they can eat their cake and have it. I am not perturbed one bit about what is happening in northern region of Nigeria today. Blame the government of Nigeria which ironically the so-called middle belt sons and daughters have assisted to foist on Nigerians.

Where were the middle belt jokers when their bedfellows allowed the Hausa, Fulani and Kanuri to acquire military styled weapons? It is very sad to watch a young Fulani teenage girl in northern region of Nigerian openly brandishing AK-47 in public when the people in middle belt and southern Nigeria can not openly carry bow and arrow without a question from the Nigerian authorities.

The fear of Biafra is driving Nigeria to a suicidal limit. Nigeria has given away Bakassi and now Islamic northern region of Nigeria is armed to the teeth while middle and southern Nigeria are not allowed to carry walking stick.

naptu2: This is for those of you that wanted to see boobs.

https://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/537786_124061831059766_48577726_n.jpg

This is the epitome of Lagos Carnival for me. Yoruba peeps no day carry last, at all.

Ikenna351: This morning, the Admin, Mr. Seun, increased my responsibility as a moderator in Nairaland. He made me a co-mod in Politics section. I took the job simply to team up with OAM4J & Afam4eva to fight this deadly virus eating up this Politics section. So, my priority here is to deal with the virus.

Its too shameful what some of the adults here are teaching our children. An innocent kid registers in Nairaland, the first thing he or she is taught is to hate his neighour, schoolmates, classmates or even best friends, simply because they are from different tribes. You maynot be directly teaching them how to hate an innocent fellow human being at home or in school, but you are directly doing that here.

Ojukwu made mistake in the past, what about it? Awolowo did the same, what about it? My father must have made some mistakes in the past and so what? I have made some mistakes in the past that am not proud of and so wetin come happen? An what about you blaming another tribe or prominent figure for an alleged mistake(s)? Are you saying you have never done something in the past that you always regret whenever you remember them? Show me, who is that perfect man? Cant we let the past be and see what the future have for us?

The 1994 Rwandan Genocide, a clash/manslaugther between Tutsis and Hutsis ethnic groups, which claimed about 1 million lives, didnt just happen. It started like what we are doing here. Creating & Promoting hatred. Sudan is not left out. We may call it e-tribal fight, but dont understimate what it does in our minds, which translate one way or another in our personal lives offline.

Ojukwu is Ojukwu. Type anything other than that and i will ban you. Awolowo is Awolowo, anything short of that warrants ban from me. Achebe is Achebe. Type anything else, then we shall see. Am not a baby, i know a typo when i see one. I have taken my time to study and see some people deliberately address such people with offensive names. If you can spell your name correctly, then you have no reason not to spell Ojukwu, Achebe or Awolowo correctly.

Unfortunately, some of the Igbos were raised outside the Eastern part of the country. They are the ones that would argue that Ibo is the right pronounciation and spelling, rather than Igbo. Well, i wont blame them. Few of our fathers who had their formal education during colonial era wrongly still write as they were taught by the whiteman. Some are still victims of mental colonization. Ibo maynot be an issue outside Nairaland, but it has become one in Nairaland, deliberately used to instigate tribal war in Politics section. For the sake of peace,please use your Ibo outside Politics section. Likewise, dont address anyother tribe with an offensive name, claiming you read it in a book or you found it on google.

If you an Igbo and think I wont ban you because am an Igbo too when you call a Yoruba "Yoruba", i will first ban you even if the yoruba fellow first insulted you. Prefential treatment is not in my dictionary. And note that the duration of my ban is usually 7 days.

I have not hidden any post yet or ban anyone, but as soon as this is posted, i will get to work. I have not become anyone's enemy yet. I maynot have time for other offences, but not for tribalism. Wont spare anyone, even if you are a friend. If you dont like my style of mod, you better start your petition to the admin to remove me before i fully start. Because, i wont spare any tribalist here who refuses to change.

Depending on the degree of the insult against another tribe, i may hide the post, ban the username or both.

Ikenna.

This is a sort of twisted issue I have with so-called Ndigbo. Most of them seemed, at times, hell bent to save Nigeria thereby putting them selves in a precarious situation. Are you insinuating that Yoruba is not and has not been referred as Yoruba, Yoruba or Yooba or Igbo has not been referred as Ibo or Hausa has not been referred as Hausawa, Haoussa, Ausa or Habe etc?

The display in above post is one reason I am suing for disintegration of Nigeria into nation states so that the inhabitants of the resultant nation states will be free in mind to articulate ideas without minding the mindset of next door neighbor. I never thought that one day I had to associate “Boko" with terrorism. Must we ban the usage of “Boko” in our lingo because one idiotic and Islamic sect decided to use it in the name of a terrorist group?

It remains an idiotic attempt by anybody to curb tribal bias on nairaland when such instances are institutionalized by Nigeria and government of Nigeria.

talktimi: PDP/ACN ± Birds of The Same Feathers...

Please, I plead with you to rebrand the graphic on your post to Islamic Democrats (APC) and Christian Democrats (PDP). It is unforgivable insult to anybody who passes as Republican to be associated with Almagiri Political Contractors (APC).

[quote author=Okija_juju]when I said Ohaneze, MASSOB and Uwazuruike have all lost their relevance, some die hard fanatical Ndi Igbos called me names..

This was what I was talking about..

Support amnesty for killers?! Why!? So that they can remain in Ugwu Hausa to keep doing business abi?!

Utter rubbish... [/quote]Where were your not-too-intelligent inputs when amnesty was granted to MEND? Did Ohaneze, MASSOB or Uwazuruike grant amnesty to any group? Must Ndigbo fellow the footsteps of its idiotic detractors in Nigeria to arrogate the brunt of every madness out of northern region to Ndigbo?

If the alleged support of the misguided amnesty to Boko Haram by Ohaneze is true, I guess it follows the dictate of history and precedent.

Bros, Ndigbo must not do too much for Nigeria but follow the political hand it deals Nidgbo. Today’s Nigeria looks like 60’s Nigeria with Tiv riots and western regional political unrest. I bet you that southwest region of Nigeria will soon join this madness when either APC is not registered as a political party or ACN is dealt unforeseen defeat at the polls.

Granted whatever that is good for the geese is equally good for the ganders. It is stupidity of infinite pedigree to grant amnesty to any armed group fighting for any cause.

Since Nigeria granted amnesty to the so-called MEND and followed it up with crude oil contracts bordering on national security, I am of the opinion that Boko Haram should not only be granted amnesty with contracts but armed groups yet to be formed in Nigeria must be accorded with the same largesse.

Any attempted to expunge this imbecilic precedent in future will led to catastrophic ending.

Nigeria and the so-called Nigerians are irredeemable phonies.

@Author

Any drooling fool or walking dead that wishes to pose a question to the dead is as good as dead. Tony boy aka Tony Afejuku is dead already.

Anybody who dreams or remotely insinuates there are encompassing factors for unity in Nigeria except the idiotic crude oil is an irredeemable fool. Before Biafra, there were signs everywhere in Nigeria and commentaries from few so-called fathers of Nigerian Independence and colonialists that suggested the project called Nigeria was an endeavor in futility.

Events in today’s Nigeria do not state otherwise. Anyway Americans say that stupidity can not be fixed.

bolaino: chinua achebe was just a lucky man plain and simple, and the reason he could not win the nobel prize was cos he was not qualified to receive one, and instead of the man to use his popularity to preach about the power of forgiveness and moving forward he decided to preach hate and ethnic bigotry. Well he is dead, and he is dead

.And I thank God that we won't need to read books about ethnic bigotry anymore.

Did I not say you were a drooling airhead in my previous post? Nobel crap or prize is an instrument of colonialism created to engender perpetual mental inferiority among Africans and African descents. The legendary Chniua Achebe put a definite stop to such tea table mentality by writing blistering essays and criticisms against Joseph Conrad and his Heart of Darkness. Furthermore, Achebe wrote a novel titled “Things Fall Apart” that had trumped and relegated “Heart of Darkness” into back shelves.

Achebe shamed the Nobel Prize Committee of all Europeans to the point of imbecility. Nobel crap committee realized Achebe could be the only human who walked the surface of the earth that could easily reject the Nobel Prize.

You are one of the Africans I had wished were never born. Alfred Nobel was armaments manufacturer and his inventions were freely used in the annihilation of Africans by the Europeans who wanted entire Africans destroyed?

@OP

What type of journalism and human beings are found in Nigeria? INEC does not have the power to dismiss any political party official in Nigeria. INEC can declare a candidate ineligible for natioanl election yet it is not the final arbiter for such decision as courts have final say.

@Rotimi

I say thanks to Rotimi for informing us his father is from a distance land and he (Rotimi) is equally not a Nigerian.

Nigerians are not timid and definitely not foolish as Rotimi would have wanted. Please Rotimi kick off whatever you have in mind as revolution even if it is a public disturbance, I shall be in Ubima for support.

[quote author=Dudu_Negro]bzm was on that mission untill 50 mysterious bodies floated in.......bzm has been quiet since, all its militant gra gra has sobered.

you are better off advising Onlytruth and Ogugua and their NNO cabinet to take over biafraland than expecting a courageous outcome frim massob.

these are COWARDS with tails tucked in their a**ss![/quote]Any pseudo-Yoruba from Ilorin has no pedigree to call anybody coward. The jokers from Ilorin who parade themselves as Yoruba are not only cowards but irresponsible backstabbers.