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CultureRe: Igbo: A Tribe Or A Nation? by Dede1(m):
This is thread is educative and inquisitive. Baring all the formative progression, I think Igbo is an ethnic group. It does not seem right to talk about group of people in terms of nation when such group has not emancipated into geopolitical entity with delineated landmarks that are subjected to international protocol.

As Abagworo has rightfully pointed out in a previous post, there must exit an identifiable natural or biological trait among the people as to be regarded as ethnic group. Anybody who grew up from a group of Igbo community, without external influence, would readily recognize a stranger among unknown crowd who shouted Bia, Chi, Chineke, Ahia, Eke, Orie, Afo, Nkwo, Chukwu, Abali, Nwoke, Nwoko, Nwanyi, etc as one of his\her kind and feel settled. By the same token, he\she will feel indifferent to a person shouting Obong, Etim. Ekaite, Abbasi, Ukoro, etc.
PoliticsRe: Dr. Nwaezeigwe Defends Awolowo On Achebe’s Civil War Memoir by Dede1(m): 8:51pm On Oct 26, 2012
felifeli: Don't mind them o ! These people called Igbo are the most evil-natured people in the world. They never build their own homes. They just go occupy other people's homes and then they soon begin to claim it as their own and $hit everywhere they like. Dangerous evil animals. Let them try it again and this time it will be an annihilation . If you think Yoruba are cowards or stupid you will learn your lesson again second time. Ordinary OPC is enough to flush you all out of SW. Monkeys in human skin.
I learnt Nigerian soldiers of northern region indigenes that occupied western region in 1966 brought Ice cream, thanks to Yoruba girls.
PoliticsRe: Dr. Nwaezeigwe Defends Awolowo On Achebe’s Civil War Memoir by Dede1(m): 8:46pm On Oct 26, 2012
Smooyis: I think he is objective in his comment. He wrote like a more refined and civilized igbo man. A humble and intelligent thinker. Igbos should emulate him and give room for reasoning. We need one another. Why are many so stupid not to recognise dis. The north smiles and rejoices each time we confront ourselves. The ibos are the enemies of themselves. They say things that cause others to continually hate them. Or is it a curse? They should stop thinking they are better, or can do it all alone. Enough of all dis tribal acrimonies!
Please write or say what you think and never foolishly deduce your jaundiced stream of thought is based on what Igbo person thinks. It takes more than a miserable mortal such as you to decipher what another mortal thinks.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Election 2012 - And the winner is ... by Dede1(m): 3:27pm On Oct 26, 2012
I am beginning to have bad taste about these moronic “I am Delta Igbo, Rivers Igbo, Akwa Ibom Igbo, Cross River Igbo, Benue Igbo, Bayelsa Igbo and Edo Igbo" etc. It will not take long before we hear Lagos Igbo, Kogi Igbo, Taraba Igbo and Nasarawa Igbo. In fact, I do not know if the instances of adding a state’s name to Igbo validate or counterfeit the Igbo in the person. It could be a thing of vanity if Ndigbo in states such as Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu and Imo add name of the states to Igbo when indicating they are truly Igbo.
PoliticsRe: Dr. Nwaezeigwe Defends Awolowo On Achebe’s Civil War Memoir by Dede1(m): 2:12pm On Oct 26, 2012
PhysicsQED: Undoubtedly, there were atrocities committed in the Midwest by Biafran soldiers. That is a fact. The problem is that the findings of the tribunal (chaired by an Ika man) into atrocities were suppressed so that very real ethnic tensions and wounds could heal, but if you've ever read any of those yahoo usergroup arguments over this issue, you would know that some of the names of and specifics about those orphaned by Biafran killings at Urhonigbe and Ugo have already come out. Anyway, the truth can't be hidden forever. Eventually, the whole thing will come out in detail and a lot of people deluding themselves will have to come to terms with reality.
The above is an arrant nonsense. In fact, it is a despicable attempt to further propagate the crap Nowa Omogui started and when he was taken to the task of proof, he could not come up with an iota of evidence to support his claim. It is laughable you cleverly avoided adding Robber Plantation to Urhonigbe.
PoliticsRe: Dr. Nwaezeigwe Defends Awolowo On Achebe’s Civil War Memoir by Dede1(m): 11:35am On Oct 26, 2012
jason123: Moreover, wasn't Achebe the Biafran Minister of Communication??
He knows the power of Propaganda and he used it effectively during the war (tell my fellow country men of the SEastern orgin that they were winning, when in fact, they were losing and starving) and after the war (with his books). Its a shame that such a man can descend so low....
The above post is a typical example of stranded “copy and paste” addict who seemed marooned without his\her usual tools.
PoliticsRe: Dr. Nwaezeigwe Defends Awolowo On Achebe’s Civil War Memoir by Dede1(m):
[quote author=paranoia_pill]Wednesday, 24 October 2012 00:00 By Dr. Tony Nwaezeigwe

I HAVE not yet read the controversial personal history of Chinua Achebe, and as a professional historian, I don’t really think it is ethical to speak on a work one has not read. However, I have endeavoured to read Noo Saro-Wiwa’s review of the book posted on The Guardian of London on-line. I have also read the numerous comments on the book with specific reference to the roles of Chief Obafemi Awolowo in the civil war.

I could recall that this subject of Achebe’s attack on Chief Obafemi Awolowo was the Dr. Frederick Fasehun’s welcome address to me during my meeting with him on Thursday, October 11, 2012, at his Century Hotel, Okota, to discuss the subject of Igbo Presidency in 2015. Still on the same subject matter, while en route Nsukka by Ifesinachi luxury bus, just few kilometers to Ore, I received a call from Ghana, this time by the renowned Igbo literary critic and mathematician-turned historian, Professor Chinweizu, imploring me to comment on the controversy.

Over-flogged and irrelevant subject

I have, therefore, decided to comment on a subject I strongly feel is both over-flogged and irrelevant at this point of our history. However, to the professional historian, no literary work is an end to itself, not even the one coming from such literary icon as Professor Chinua Achebe. Every work of literary art is, therefore, to the professional historian, a means to an end, a tool and source-material for the professional historian in pursuit of the end. That end is definitely the solution to the intractable political socio-economic, and allied problems of mankind.

Achebe no doubt, like other writers and commentators has done his bit of contribution towards that end. However, whether Achebe’s contribution is adjudged to be positive or negative in orientation, it remains a matter literary conjecture, since every writer is entitled to his personal opinion based on his exclusive perception of a given subject matter. In this regard, the title of the book is self-explanatory. One does not, therefore, understand why the personal view of an individual will constitute a whole lot of an enveloping controversy. Or, could be because such a comment is coming out of the mouth of a “Professor Chinua Achebe”? Just like a Julius Caesar crossing the Rubicon, or a Mungo Park discovering the source of River Niger. I ask this question because the subject matter is no longer new, as it has over the years formed one of tools against possible Igbo-Yoruba common front against a perceived common enemy.

The fact remains, however, that the issue of Chief Awolowo’s anti-Igbo roles during the civil war is highly over-bloated with irreconcilable body of evidence. This issue was fully explained in my October 1998 Guest Lecture to the Department of

Political Science, University of Lagos, titled: “Ethnicity and the Politics of Igbo-Yoruba Relations: case of a celebration of defeat?”

In the first instance, the Igbo first lost the golden opportunity to have Chief Awolowo fully on their side when, neither General Ironsi nor Col. Ojukwu failed to see the wisdom in releasing the former from prison custody in Calabar. Chief Obafemi Awolowo had to wait for the six or seven months before he could be released and granted amnesty by General Yakubu Gowon, who subsequently elevated him.

There was no doubt that the Yoruba under the leadership of Chief Awolowo were ready to secede along with the Igbo, had circumstances on ground not prevented the scheme. Fundamental in that circumstance was the presence of the Northern troops in Ibadan, Abeokuta and Lagos. Since the Yoruba at that time lacked the needed military presence in the army to confront the occupying forces, there was little they could have done. The Yoruba leaders had actually demanded for the withdrawal of the Federal troops from their territory to enable them carry out their scheme of secession. It was actually on account of that demand that the Federal authorities announced on Thursday, May 25, 1967 that the Northern troops would be withdrawn from the West Region.

However, that withdrawal eventually meant the withdrawal of troops at Ibadan and Abeokuta for the reinforcement of the Lagos garrison as well as for the strategic

cities of Jebba and Ilorin. Even the acting Military Governor of the Western Region at that tme, Col. Adebayo, in his subtle protest on May 26, described the presence of Northern troops at Ikeja as “this outstanding problem,” and pleaded with his people to exercise patience since he was discussing the matter with General Gowon.

It was under this charged political atmosphere that Gowon announced the

following day, May 27, the creation of the 12-State structure. That action eventually led to the fission of Yoruba minds towards secession, particularly since the indigenes of the new Lagos State saw their new status as a freedom from the domineering image of Chief Awolowo. The subsequent elevation of Chief Obafemi Awolowo to number two position was to erase the idea of a Yoruba secession.

It could also be recalled that on March 3, 1967, the Biafran leader, Col. Odumegwu-Ojukwu, then still acting on the capacity of a Regional Governor, affirmed this evident incapacitation of the West by the occupying Northern troops. Odumegwu-Ojukwu had said that both Governors of the two Southern Regions of West and Midwest were in full support of his position against the North, but could not do much because of the presence of Northern troops in their territories.

Chief Awolowo’s inability to carry out his threat of secession if the East seceded could not therefore be interpreted as an act of betrayal. Beyond the matter of sentiments, objective judgment agrees that there can never be secession without a back-up military force. Comparatively, the Yoruba had thrown a much stronger loyal support to the leadership of Nnamdi Azikiwe than the Igbo ever exhibited toward Chief Obafemi Awolowo. Thus in speaking of Awolowo’s roles in the civil war, objectivity demands that reference be made also of such Yoruba-born pro-Igbo partisans of the war, like Professor Wole Soyinka and those who chose to fight and die for Biafra like Colonels Banjo and Ademoyega.

Gruesome experiences


There was no doubt that Professor Chinua Achebe, from the accounts of his civil war experiences was a privileged Biafran citizen who only watched but never suffered the gruesome experiences of hunger, diseases and homelessness during the war. If the father of African literature actually wants to be objective concerning the conduct of the civil war, then he should first focus his literary search-light at the internal mechanisms of the conduct of the war on the side of Biafra.

In other words, if any blame were to be apportioned for the defeat of Biafra and the suffering of the Igbo masses, it cannot be targeted at external forces such as Awolowo, but at the internal elite who masterminded the failed civil war policies of the leader, like Achebe himself. One would want Professor Achebe to explain to

Nigerians in general and the Igbo in particular, what happened to the millions in foreign currency raised abroad in support of Biafra but which never got to the shores of Biafra? How much of such money were actually raised and who were those Igbo leaders of Biafra entrusted with the duty of bringing the fund to Biafra?

What also happened to the millions given to such people as Dr. K.O. Mbadiwe and Mojekwu, a relative of Odumegwu-Ojukwu for the purpose of purchasing arms and ammunition to prosecute the war? Did they not cart away with the money and never returned to Biafra until after the defeat? Where again could one place those who sold relief materials meant for the poor and suffering citizens of Biafra, when it was meant to be distributed free? Were all these atrocities against the Igbo equally masterminded by Chief Obafemi Awolowo?

Viewed critically, even the literary icon himself, acting on the capacity of Biafra’s Minister of Communication, could not have supported any policy that would have given the Federal Government undue advantage over Biafra. Even the Federal Government’s policy of an all-round twenty pounds exchange cannot be faulted by any economic theory given the undetermined value of the Biafran currency. It is important for Professor Achebe to know that the Igbo of today fully understand who their actual friends and foes are in the present Federation.

Abandoned property saga


The 1966 pogroms against the Igbo were Hausa-Fulani schemes and not those of the Yoruba. Many Igbo lived unmolested in Yorubaland throughout the war. The coup d’etat that toppled General Aguiyi-Ironsi was a Northern act and not a single Yoruba soldier was involved. The abandoned property saga did not take place in Yorubaland.

Above all, although there could exist a situation of mutual rivalries between the Igbo and Yoruba, such competitions never for once degenerated into a state of anti-Igbo riots, with countless loss of lives and property. The Igbo thus know who their friends are, and they know that the Yoruba are not their foe. In conclusion, it is important to let Professor Achebe understand one evident fact: if any Igbo leader could have one-quarter of Chief Obafemi Awolowo’s vision for the Yoruba, then the Igbo are saved the pains of recurrent political idiocy.



• Dr. Nwaezeigwe is Senior Research Fellow, Institute of African Studies, University of Nigeria, Nsukka.

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=102559:in-defence-of-awolowo-matters-arising-from-achebes-civil-war-memoir&catid=73:policy-a-politics&Itemid=607[/quote]If this joker took facts for granted in a show of shame as he did with this innocuous issue, only God can uncover what he did with his thesis, if any. No wonder Unizik, Awka could be mentioned in academic jokes before UNN comes to mind. If this useless and uncouth interloper is still gainfully employed by UNN, he should be held for remunerations of funds paid him as salary.

I had looked forward to reading where the jester would lead us into the real history of Awolowo’s political troubles. It is no gainsaying to state Yoruba, in cohort with Huasa, Fulani and Kanuri, imprisoned Awolowo. The major Yoruba sons who conspired with Tafawa Balewa and Ahmadu Bello to chill Awolowo’s azz in jail were Adetokumbo Ademola, Olawale Elias, Sodeide Sowemimo, Majekudumi, Akintola and his hoards of tugs. Awolowo was meant to be finished off in Nigerian Prison in Bauchi but timely intervention of certain Igbo peeps saved his azz and was later sent to eastern region to have a second chance in life.

Why would Igbo support Awolowo as Yoruba supported Azikiwe? Did Awolowo live or own a block in Igbo land? Did Awolowo even have the terminality to name his kids Igbo name? Did Awolowo spend a day in Igbo land unless when searching for electioneering votes? I bet you the tribal icon called Awolowo can not call out a word of Igbo talk less of making a speech in Igbo.

Fool is only reasonable term reserved for any human being who remotely thought that the release of Awo from the prison should be the first agenda of Ironsi’s regime which was faced with mutiny, political unrest and pogrom. In May1966, the political riot in northern region of Nigeria saw many lives of southerners that consisted Yoruba, Igbo, Ibibio, Efik, Edo, Esan, Ijo, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ejagam, Annang and Ogoni perished. There were more important things on the plate of Ironsi’s regime than a lone convict in Calabar.

I am not surprised the untidy douche bag in the person of Nwaezeigwe drew blank on heinous crimes perpetrated by persons such as Major O Daramola. The massacre of Igbo chaps who managed to get to the bridgehead at Lokoja was spearheaded by Major O Daramola and he was a Yoruba. It must be recalled northern elites saw the need to use a southerner to nail the coffin of Ndigbo through the abandon property in Port Harcourt. They promptly called on then Col O Daramola to chair the panel which decided that every property accumulated by Ndigbo in Port Harcourt before the civil war should be declared abandon property. Again, sons and daughters of Ndigbo should remember Col O Daramola was a Yoruba.

It will amount to waste of energy to call Nwaezeigwe a dingbat because it is obvious. Seriously, only a drooling nitwit such as Nwaezeigwe can make hay out of childish innuendos such as millions raised to buy arms for Biafra’s agenda ended in the pocket of KO Mbadiwe and CC Mojekwu. Mbadiwe, for the sake of posterity, held the same position as Azikwe, Ikejiani, Kenneth Dike and even Chukwuma Azikiwe. The duty of roving ambassador was primarily to draw the attention of the world to the atrocity Nigerians were committing in eastern region of Nigeria. CC Mojekwu was commissioner for home affairs.

I had expected the dunce to mention the people who were responsible for the fund and total amount raised for the weapons meant for Biafra. I bet this swine is in the class of people who still believed that Ojukwu used his father’s money to prosecute the war. What a waste of human spam. It is inconceivable to fathom why this tadpole thought a man who can not strike a difference between Enfield Mark III and Mark IV rifles can be sent to secure arms for Biafra.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Election 2012 - And the winner is ... by Dede1(m): 11:07pm On Oct 24, 2012
@One Naira

Please, for sake of your brothers and sisters on NL, I plead with you to stop responding to posts from a certain entity.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Election 2012 - And the winner is ... by Dede1(m): 11:01pm On Oct 24, 2012
ballabriggs: Kechikanma onye gbukwala nu onweya. Kechikanma onye gbukwala nu onweya

Nwanne echelule echi, hara echi chere onweya. Echi dime anyi amakwa ihe oga mu.

Eluwa najumu elebe onyiye akamu ge si bia. Mamu etiwa shi onyiye aka mu ge si naka chimo.


Ogechi ogechi kanma, ogechi ogechi kanma. Nkechinyere mu nkechinyere mu kanma.....


Dede you are a wise man. A shim gi doro ochichi, gi hafu ga ndi ishin shi han chiwa.
I salute you, ballabriggs. My people say Ugwu wu nkwii nkwii nwanyi jiri muta ibe ya. In the other hand, Aturu siri odighi ihie dika ilee anya. It is funny to watch few individuals struggled so hard to waste steam on issue which could be considered as infinitesimally less important.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Election 2012 - And the winner is ... by Dede1(m): 10:33pm On Oct 24, 2012
ogugua88: Part of Igbo unification is the tolerance and acceptance of others having an opinion, even if it may not be popular. Yes, I believe in one Nigeria but that doesn't make me an Igbo any less.

I truly despise this talk of "who's more Igbo than who". It's repulsive. Or maybe you want my CV, life goals, and synopses of my parents' lives to determine whether I'm Igbo enough or not.

Part of fixing the home is reprimanding people who do wrong, regardless of tribe, state, region, etc. Ethnic bashing of a person/group on Igbos is abominable, yet Igbos can call others "yorobbers" or any other offensive term, and Igbos, even some Eze Ndi Igbo, will turn a blind eye. Part of fixing the Igbo home is not only rewarding the good, but realizing that we have our own ills and that they need to be improved. That is something I have not seen happen, which is why I didn't decline nominations in the other thread.

Because I don't hold a bias to my tribe doesn't mean I'm less Igbo or detached from my tribe. I'm fair. I see wrong as wrong and right as right, regardless of someone's origin. Ejine, is that a crime?
Any Igbo son or daughter who wavers on the issue that demands unalloyed support for Igbo unity and nationalism, even when such issue diametrically opposes nonsensical One-Nigeria, should not be helped to an esteem position in Igbo land whereas such position is guaranteed a seat in a room where highly sensitive issues about Ndigbo is discussed.

There is a fundamental reason why every man is not allowed into Ozo society in Igbo land. An opinon detrimental to oneself can not be regarded as a worthy endeavor. I am of the view the so-called ethnic bias would have no foot to stand if Nigeria does not exist. The essence of Nigeria, in my humble opinion, will continue to propagate instances of tribalism in the country. There is no amount of advancement in human intellect that could wish away the first profession known to human.
PoliticsRe: NL Monthly Political Debate by Dede1(m):
There is no doubt Nigeria is filled with trolls and no seemingly changes in sight. Even the young generations of Nigeria are dafter and abler to commit the same blunders than their forbearers. It is pure laughable to assemble group of so-called debaters and judges on issue such as Sir Frederick Lugard’s 1914 amalgamation when the participants are mostly “copy and paste” addicts or thought Lokoja was capital of anything.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Election 2012 - And the winner is ... by Dede1(m): 3:43pm On Oct 24, 2012
@ Okija_juju

Page 53 of the thread pertaining to Eze Ndigbo NL nomination process holds a portentous speech that reflects a thoughtful manifestation of Okija-juju’s articulate mind Ndigbo needed on NL. Please Mazi Okiju-juju, I plead with you to let this year’s process go. My people say “Echi dime”. Also my people say “Owu ericha akpafa ngaji maka mgbe uzo afo ga abia ugwo”. I have witness your doggedness and act of bravery in the trenches of NL. It is said that character is built in a life time but reputation is built in a minute.

Again, NL may look like a joke to some people but I urge them to google some of the goofy stuffs about Nigeria or Nigeria\Biafra civil and relax for a surprise. There is a need for Igbo sons and daughters such as you on NL to rebut and debunk the disingenuously designed fallacies and outright falsehoods to denigrate the character of Ndigbo by most Nigerians of none Igbo extraction. Not every son or daughter of Igbo can recognize the extraordinary human qualities God had seated on you. By the same token, not every person of Igbo extraction could discover the personality dent on Ikemba of Nnewi as you did. However, the life of human is constantly tested by unforeseen forces of push and pull. Udo Diri Gi, Nwannem.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Election 2012 - And the winner is ... by Dede1(m): 2:11pm On Oct 24, 2012
My votes go to:
Eze = Odumchi
Eze Nwanyi = Nwanyi Nwaelekebe (Policewoman)
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 4:22pm On Oct 23, 2012
PointB

If rule #3 is incorporated into the constituted guideline for electing Eze Ndigbo NL, I suggest the exercise is rubbished. The outcome of who becomes Eze Ndigbo NL must be manifestation of sons and daughters of Ndigbo. Rule #3 reeks of ambiguity to hell.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 4:14pm On Oct 23, 2012
hypeman: Perhaps, the word "grown" shouldn't be used with "man" if the "man" is actually "grown," no? That shows "grown man" lives in denial, but "man" is true to his nature and his anatomy which makes a little bit of childishness inevitable throughout his journey on this planet.. wink
This is the reason sometimes men are referred as fools.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 4:09pm On Oct 23, 2012
hypeman: Ojukwu was a G! The man had beautiful Bianca all to himself for decades - that's good life right there... Let him rest in peace! However, disliking him or liking him shouldn't be a yardstick to measure people's Igbo-ness... It's a free world!!
The world can not be free when individuals act outside the dictates of the laws or set rules.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 4:06pm On Oct 23, 2012
hypeman: Blimey! - this reply should be archived under "Things Okonkwo would never say." Sir, there's nothing bad in good ol'banter once in while - life is too short, let's have fun... I know you have got the wittiness to hold your own against anyone, let's do this...

A wise man once told me that: "There's a bit of childishness in every man because men never grow." Let's have fun!! grin
By the same token, a grown man acting childishly takes away grown from the man.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 4:00pm On Oct 23, 2012
[quote author=9ja_I_hail]No you should have use Awo as example instead of Tinubu, i am sure you know what i would have respond you with if you had used him to do your illustration.[/quote]Do not pay any mind to Dayolodo. Suddenly, the douche bag drew blank on the personalities such Awolowo or Akintola.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 3:55pm On Oct 23, 2012
hypeman: Never count Dede1 out unless there's an arrival of uninvited white missionaries - things are falling apart!

Pa Dede1, the battle is yours to lose - time to go innnn!!
I do not fall into the grade of trolls that navigate to this forum to show low esteem of shallowness. Each time I check into this forum, it is just to debunk any falsehood or conjectural crap purported to establish de facto trend.

You should be highly disappointed if you expect childish shenanigans from me spurred by youthful exuberance.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 3:47pm On Oct 23, 2012
[quote author=Okija_juju]No Sir!!

I was referring to PointB.. He even resonded..
[/quote]Okay, I am sorry and thanks for the clarification.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 3:46pm On Oct 23, 2012
[quote author=Okija_juju][b]Mba nu..

The polls had already started being altered from the start..

I will post the link below where I put up all my nominations as at when the polls were saying 5.. I had atleast 8.

Look, I was very civil at first. i followed due process. I explained why I didnt appeal, even showed the Tribunal members the clause in the constitution that made them powerless to do anything in this.

PointB and 9ja_i_hail were the ones who took it far. PointB kept throwing sly punches, calling my appeal crocodile tears. I have tried logic and it has failed. Yes I did say I would let it go, but on second thought, I changed my mind. This exact same thing happened last year and I let it go.. Not this year again.

If any sound mind reads through this entire thread, they would see that I played according to the rules until I saw that it wasnt working. PointB designed a biased system. That system must be changed. How hard can it be. You, Afam, Ogugua amongst many other known ndi Igbos have also called for this rule to be changed and he has ignored all of them..

This is what happens when diplomacy fails.. You cant blame me here sir, I indeed tried. [/b][/quote]In your defense, I posted a comment where I stood before Ojukuw in person and lamented about the blunders Ojukwu committed during the civil war. Ndigbo in particular and Biafrans in general can not and will never always accept all things that transpired during civil war as positive. There were things we would like to approach through different plank. However, the recount of events during Britain-Nigeria\Biafra war comes with loaded sentiments that demand prudence.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 3:36pm On Oct 23, 2012
[quote author=Okija_juju] How?!!


Im simply being plain..

What did I do or say that was so unforgivable that my rights to vote and be voted for should be withdrawn by a few people?!

Did I kill any Igbo man?!

What?!

I am simply equating this to Ojukwus case..
[/quote]Because the douchebag feels he is gods gift to Ndi Igbo..



I guess the douchbag in your above quotation is Ojukwu. Again, how did you know the "douchbag feels he is gods gift to Ndiigb"?
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 3:28pm On Oct 23, 2012
[quote author=Okija_juju]Dede1 asi... angry

I have over 15 nominations... These leeches just never acknowledged them..

I had an overwhelming support base that was larger than my opposition, yet they ignored all the support I had and stuck to the 4 or 5 insignificant oppositions I got. Even Afam4eva supported my nomination..


This entire system is a mockery to Ndi Igbo in general...

[/quote]My statement was based on the official tally of votes presented to the public. I shall urge to reexamine your approach or method of objection to the nomination results and tell if it exudes maturity.

I guess the best approach would have been for you to tablet the perceived 15 votes you garnered from the aforementioned process and post them on the forum to expose the inadequacies of the electoral committee. In fact, I read from a post where you accepted the outcome of the nomination process and promised to desist from the utterances that got you into this palaver.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 3:17pm On Oct 23, 2012
[quote author=Okija_juju]Because the douchebag feels he is gods gift to Ndi Igbo..


If Ojukwu could stand elections in Nigeria after the War... Then Okija can stand for Eze Ndi Igbo elections...
[/quote]It is most unlikely for a person to know how another person feels. I guess Okija_juju has been tempted to slide into the slippery path of childishness again.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 3:03pm On Oct 23, 2012
coogar: onlytruth, dede1 and pointB epitomise all that is wrong with nigerians....
posterity would judge you fools for this sheer discrimination against okija-juju! the intransigence you fools have shown on this thread suggests you are all afraid okija would beat y'all hands down @ the polls......

i don't like okija-juju.....he's a witchdoctor, he supported the aluu community for what they did to those boys, okija is diabolical, etc......but should my dislike rob him of his constitutional rights? what has okija saying the truth about rochas gotta do with the eze ndigbo? this is blatant corruption rubbed in our faces.....okija should be allowed to participate otherwise i would bring so much pestilence to this thread, the 3 musketeers(dede mabiakwu, pointlessB and onlylie) would cop hypertension this month!
I have no illusion whatsoever you are an idiotic interloper. It is either you have comprehensible deficiency or you are acutely demented. My people say when a task to exhume a body is given to someone who was absent when the corpse was buried; the person starts from the legs.

During the nomination period when the wind of Okija_juju disqualification blew across, Dede1 was one of the few people who insisted that Okija_juju should be allowed to seek his NL fate before his\her people. It is very delightful to see Okija_juju was allowed into the exercise of nomination process but Okija_juju failed to garner required number of votes to continue to the next stage of the election. Three nominees that qualified for the real election were required to accept or decline. To the best of my knowledge, one of the qualified nominees has already declined. So, what is this imbecilic rant of Okija_juju’s nomnination or lack thereof?

The major problem of Africa and Nigeria is moronic dingbats such as you who thought they know more than a person next door and when issues did not go their way, then it must be a bad decision.

I am painfully disappointed with Okija_juju who erroneously kept this foolish shenanigans running riot in NL. Anyway, my people say "if a person shows you who he\she keeps as friends; you can decipher the characteristics of such individual".
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 3:54am On Oct 23, 2012
If only one person, among the nominees, accepted, I suggest we crown the nominee who accepted nomination for the Eze Ndigbo NL. My suggestion is informed by the latest attention this process has attracted lately. The nomination process was truly Igbo show and I shall remain peace if it is used as platform to crown Eze Ndigbo NL. There is no doubt further electioneering exercise will attract personae non gratae to the exercise.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 3:06am On Oct 23, 2012
I could be adjudged wrong or right in my suggestion Rossik is not Igbo. Rossik is from Edo State. There are so many of Rossik’s type clowning around this thread lately.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 2:33am On Oct 23, 2012
I cast my vote in nomination of Policewoman for the esteemed position of Eze Nwanyi Ndigbo NL.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 3:08pm On Oct 22, 2012
PointB: Your opinion is highly respected. But I must confess, your ill-timed decision to lead the charge from the trenches is partly responsible for the extension of the nomination time. We must necessarily find capable replacement for the very critical rearguard, when men of war decides that the vanguard is their preferred corner.

Nevertheless, the nomination rules has not been tampered with so far, as no specific time frame was given in the rules for nomination. Rather, it was stated that the completion of one event will necessary lead to the next. In anycase, once the top contenders (including you) accept their nomination. It will be needless to continue with the nominations.

As for Okija_juju, his duplicity is obvious. I won't be surprised if and when he comes back next year to shed another crocodile's tears. Perhaps we may finally have our own Buhari in him, at this rate!
As always, you have once again showed that you are a true son of Igbo parentage with unshakable social orders about your shoulders. I thank you for the clarification with respect to reopening of nomination process.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 2:59pm On Oct 22, 2012
Again, I reserve my profound salute to Policewoman, ifyalways and ballabriggs. I do not know it all and will never pretend to do so. However, it has been impressed on me to always debunk the fallacious conjectures and outright falsehood intended to soil the character of Ndigbo on NL especially issues bordering on Britain-Nigeia\Biafra civil war.

I consider the position of Ezs Ndigbo NL as venerable however I think my place is in the trenches of NL.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 2:29pm On Oct 22, 2012
I had mixed feelings toward the recent turn of events with respect to electioneering process of Eze Ndigbo NL. Granted it is very innocuous exercise, it is very educative while uncovering the reasons Africans are a step behind the curve. It is very unfortunate to read that already closed nomination has been reopened. Rules, when adopted by a group of people, shall be followed to dot and respected even when such rule does not favor an individual.

I am mostly disappointed by the posturing of Mazi Okija_juju who seems to doubt his\her resolves on the issues of Eze Ndigbo NL. In one hand, he\she has been downright apologetic and in another instance he\she relapsed to manners that got him\her into the palaver in the first place. I honestly respect Okija_juju’s opinions on NL even when such opinionated endeavors go against mainstream.

There is no doubt forums provide arena for jovial jab of jokes but we must be very careful when there are contending interests as seen on NL where culture and tradition rooted in ethnicity appear to exert enormous pressure on the people.

Again, I am disappointed Eze Ndigbo NL electoral committee even contemplated the ideas of reopening the nomination process after it has been declared closed.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Dede1(m): 4:41pm On Oct 21, 2012
dayokanu: Eziachi is not online most of the time and I dont think he would have time for the Eze thing

He can be one of the Board of Trustees given his age, experience, excellent reasoning without bias, cool head among other things

Also know if you are looking for an Eze to be fighting senseless fights all over NL like Onlytruth, then Eziachi is not your man

Let my favourite Ibo on NL Eziachi enjoy his retirement with his grandkids abeg. I even doubt if he has seen this thread.

I hereby on behalf of my man Eziachi withdraw from this charade. Let onlylies and PointlessB continue their show of shame

Dont drag Eziachi into the mud. Some ppl like me would love to insult the Eze from time to time, So pls biko dont put Eziachi in the line of fire

I would rather you out a mor0n like Dende, a retardd lke Onlylies, a bigot like Obiagu, Mekus, Nchara, WIlywily, a duplicituos poly monickering like Andre Uweh/Ngodigha/Tomakint/Abadaba, or a slimeball like Point B,

Odumchi sef is too refined to be the Eze.
You can hide all you want in NL, it oozes out of your moniker you are a person of questionable parentage. I hope a bag of hammers such you does not die like Soun of Ogbomosho while on the run.

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