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Prof Corruption: It's hitting you real hard. See this one:

IBB also described Chief Awolowo as "the main issue in Nigeria politics, you are either for or against him."
Who gives the fck about Ojukwu, Zik and your clueless racist bitter senile old English professor?

It appears you are bouncing off the wall. Who gives a rat-azz about what IBB thinks about turncoat such as Awolowo?

emmatok: LOL,
Man you wicked no be small.
I have asked this Ibos several times,
How did Awo became so powerful during the war, yet he was not the Head of states.

Anybody who remotely thought about this question is a quintessential nitwit. Gowon was ready to cede parts of Nigeria to any country, created office of vice president in a military regime and allowed imbecilic perverts to command position as long as Nigeria defeated Biafra.

emmatok: LOL,
Man you wicked no be small.
I have asked this Ibos several times,
How did Awo became so powerful during the war, yet he was not the Head of states.

Anybody who remotely thought about this question is a quintessential nitwit. Gowon was ready cede part of Nigeria, create the office of vice president in a military regime and allows imbecilic perverts to command position as long as Nigeria defeats Biafra.

Prof Corruption: Trash! Awo was the greatest Nigerian ever lived! When you look at what he achieved without presidential powers, you just have to marvel.
No wonder your clueless leader Ojukwu, in one moment of rare sanity, admitted that Awo was the greatest president Nigeria never had.

Awolowo rest in peace

Awolowo’s great achievements can only be interpreted through the hyperbolic eyes of myopic Yoruba people. Of course, Ojukwu had kind for words for the irredeemable tribal irredentist such as Awolowo yet the ingrate was seen casting aspersion on the character of Ojukwu in an interview allegedly given by the backstabber.

demmy: igboboy I suggest you go read on the nationalists who pressed the British to establish UI and the ibadan local chiefs who granted their land so that a bigot and ingrate like Achebe could have a school to attend. Awolowo was right you're all irredeemable.

You are tempting me to call you names. Ordinary one-room office to swear affidavit, Awolowo could not open in Ibadan until 1949. If not for the compliment of hunger, Awolowo could have been aimlessly roaming London's alley ways till 1960, olodo.

van bonattel: I really wonder what awolowo did to worth the hype on his hopeless image, apart from starving innocent children to death, i dont know of any serious achievement which awolowo did in his life.

The most laughable hype of all time is the lunatic insinuation that “Akawo” such as Awolowo built Lagos. I still wonder why such exemplary fit was not performed in Ibadan, the acclaimed capital of Oduduwa country.

demmy: Foolish igboboy, Awolowo had brought Egbé Ọmọ Odùduwà to Lagos by 1948. GFOH you nuisance igbo noise maker.

I shall not make you wiser even if obliged to do so. The crappy Egbé Ọmọ Odùduwà was formed in 1945 in London. Awolowo could not open one-room office in Ibadan after two years he returned to Southern Protectorate in 1947 talk less establishing a college, agbaya.

Prof Corruption: I know it's really painful to realise afterall that someone sees the hype as nothing more than what it is, a trash. If "clowning" fetches more fame, more money than your so called copy and paste literary works, what else is there again? It's only an Efulefu that calls singing clowning.

Nwachukwu name was also apt to explain that the war wasn't a joke on the Nigerian side as well.

I am not surprise at the stream of your thoughts as well as your seemingly expressed values. Let me inform you that show-monkey makes more money than you will ever have in your miserable life. Do you need to be informed that a bird can sing but write, olodo?

Prof Corruption: If you knew about Nwachukwu, why did you mention Soyinka? You now see there is an outlier in every tribe. You are learning.
You can't bring misery upon yourselves and blame it on others: that's rewriting history. That's what your senile professor is doing.

It seems you are purely disconnected from reality of life when you foolishly attempted to compare Jenifer Lopez’s clowning acts with literary works of Chinua Achebe. I do not think you could be helped. Awolowo should have used the word-irredeemable on you. I called up Soyinka’s name so that a sake of hammers such you should realize Biafra was not triviality.

demmy: Achebe would not have an education if Awolowo did not have the vision to established the University of Ibadan. The ingrate should be thankful he didn't end up as a tailor in his village. Ko ni daa fun.



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You are a drooling fool with zero bright future. Awolowo had barely made it to London when a College in Ibadan was established.

Prof Corruption: Tell me what's in this statement that is not clear or logical for you to understand. Do you feed your enemy to grow fat to be able to kill you?

Why did Ojukwu not think for a second that the food being sent to Biafra could be poisoned to exterminate him and the rest of Igbo people? Of course, he knew Awolowo would never approve of such a thing so he cornered the food and allowed the masses to die of hunger. That's your hero, that's your saint, that's your immaculate being. Because Awolowo said, stop the food, your general with the greatest army south of Sahara concluded Awo was the greatest evil on Earth.

The rest of your post is nothing more than a junk. We can not all share the same opinion. There must be an outlier. You remember a man call Ike Nwanchukwu, he fought on Nigeria side. Think deeply about it.

You need to express yourself intelligently and logically comport to the premise of the subject matter to extend this debate. Awolowo and Yoruba fought alongside with the northerners yet he had audacious pedigree to call someone irredeemable when simple truth was told about his actions.

Of course, I know a man called Ike Nwachukwu. Unlike Awolowo and Yoruba people, Ike Nwachukwu has never shamelessly denied his participation in the war or attempt to rewrite the history of events during the war or manufacture a prose as in the case of Lt Col Francis Fajuyi wanting to die with Ironsi.

Katsumoto: Dede1 using the same style of obfuscation in a debate; what else is new?

Only Dede1 can verify Dede1's version of events.

I am with PhysicsQED on this. Nothing to add.

I am not surprised by your expression.

Prof Corruption: You should be pitied! Who were the guys spreading the starvation nonsense of a thing that Awolowo hated Igbo with an unbelievable passion if not Ojukwu and his now senile Achebe? Did your eyes skip this Una neva jam!

If anybody deserves silly pity, you and Awolowo are the frontrunners. Awolowo, dead or alive, never denied owning up to the starvation policy during Britain-Nigeria\Biafra war. In one moronic interview Awolowo conducted, he said starvation policy was meant to end war sooner than it would have taken. He elaborated further by saying it does not make sense feeding your enemy to have strength to continuing fighting.

Since the war ended, Yoruba peeps are either busy rewriting the story of the events or outright denying the actions they instigated during the process. The only Yoruba entities that stood up against the war on Biafra were Soyinka who was incarcerated for the duration of war, Ijebu Ode cocoa famers assoc\Agbakoya who were brutally subdued by Gowon and Lt Col Ayo Ariyo who resigned his commission in Nigerian armed forces instead of fighting against Biafrans.

Prof Corruption: Awolowo replied this nonsense of a thing called Achebe 's war memoir before his glorious and graceful exit to great beyond.

On a lighter note, why didn't Zik advise Ojukwu or devise a winning strategy for Biafra? See how one man single handedly formulated policies that brought Biafra to her knees. War is not about brute force, it's about wisdom and brain.

With the rubbish you regarded as Awolow’s reply to nonsense, there is no doubt Awolowo was the shameless liar in the ongoing discussion. For example, according to the excerpts from an interview with Awolowo where he allegedly made the following remarks,

“AWOLOWO: As far as I know, the Ibo masses are friendly to me, towards me. In fact, whenever I visit Iboland, either Anambra or Imo, and there’s no campaigning for elections on, the Ibo people receive me warmly and affectionately. But there are some elements in Iboland who believe that they can maintain their popularity only by denigrating me, and so they keep on telling lies against me. Ojukwu is one of them. I don’t want to mention the names of the others because they are still redeemable, but ….Ojukwu is irredeemable so I mention his name, and my attitude to these lies is one of indifference, I must confess to you.”,

There has never been a time Ojukwu cast aspersions on the personality of Awolowa. I have read countless interviews conducted by Ojukwu and he, Ikemba, expressed unalloyed respect for Awolowo. In one such interview, Ikemba called Awolowo the president Nigeria never had.

@OP

There is no doubt Awolowo was the shameless liar in the ongoing discussion. For example, according to the excerpts from an interview with Awolowo where he allegedly made the following remarks,

“AWOLOWO: As far as I know, the Ibo masses are friendly to me, towards me. In fact, whenever I visit Iboland, either Anambra or Imo, and there’s no campaigning for elections on, the Ibo people receive me warmly and affectionately. But there are some elements in Iboland who believe that they can maintain their popularity only by denigrating me, and so they keep on telling lies against me. Ojukwu is one of them. I don’t want to mention the names of the others because they are still redeemable, but ….Ojukwu is irredeemable so I mention his name, and my attitude to these lies is one of indifference, I must confess to you.”,

There has never been a time Ojukwu cast aspersions on the personality of Awolowo. I have read countless interviews conducted by Ojukwu and he, Ikemba, expressed unalloyed respect for Awolowo. In one such interview, Ikemba called Awolowo the president Nigeria never had.

PhysicsQED: You've got to be kidding me. The point of contention here is not whether officers from the Midwest who were already in the Nigerian army stayed in the army (as even the Igbo officers from the Midwest did, up until some defected to the other side when the opportunity arose or defected later when their lives were in danger after the federal forces took the Midwest). Rather the the issue is this phantom claim about a "massive buildup" of certain groups and recruits at Escravos to join the July attack on Bonny.

Ejoor was never part of 3MCDO and was staying in the Midwest as an administrator/governor, not staying at the frontline of the Nigerian military during the war and there is no evidence that he "urged Gowon to usurp the position of Head of State" or that he ever gathered supplies for the Nigerian army at Escravos. The entire basis of this claim that he gathered supplies for the Nigerian army at Escravos is that Gowon sent a group under an officer to Benin to pick up boats (whether they were already there or not is also an issue as I don't see how one man could have procured boats single-handedly) and was rebuffed by Ejoor's Igbo subordinate officers. After that officer (Igbinosa) was rebuffed and sent back, there is no evidence that Ejoor attempted to get the boats to Igbinosa or Gowon by other means or through other (non-Igbo) personnel or even that he was aware that any boats were meant to have been delivered.

The claim about Ejoor planning to "invade the eastern region through the southern flank at Bonny" is completely absurd. Was he going to lead this force with largely Midwestern Igbo officers (like Igboba, Ochei, Nzefili, etc.) and soldiers? Use common sense here. In fact, when Innih requested that the Midwest be given adequate means of defending the region against a possible incursion, the suggestion was ignored because of the risk. I can't comprehend how one can claim there was some kind of arms build up to go on the offensive even while others who were actually in the Nigerian army were complaining about the lack of an arms build up to provide adequate defense.

Samuel Ogbemudia was never part of 3MCDO or any attack on Bonny nor was he involved in any supposed training in Escravos. I really don't see the relevance of Ogbemudia to my point as he stayed in the Midwest as an officer prior to the invasion and stayed there after the Biafran invasion was over. George Innih joined the 3MCDO in 1968 under Lt. Col. Pius Eromobor/Eremobor. He did not join in any invasion of Bonny in 1967 and was in Lagos directly under Gowon prior to joining the 3MCDO. Samson Tomoye was not involved in the July invasion of Bonny either, and in fact was still part of the federal guard in the west by the time of the Midwest invasion in 1967. That he later joined the 3MCDO is nothing unusual and is not surprising. Isemede was not involved in the 1967 Bonny invasion either but was still in the west as well. Pius Eremobor/Eromobor was not involved in the 1967 Bonny invasion and was still an intelligence officer in the Midwest under Ejoor at that time. I don't see what the relevance of his joining the 3MCDO later is to my point. As for Alabi-Isama, who also did not take part in the July Bonny invasion but was still an officer in the Midwest at the time, his father is from a place called Utagba-Uno in the Ukwuani area and his mother is Yoruba - why you even mentioned him, I don't know. I would consider him Igbo/Yoruba just like anybody would consider Ike Nwachukwu as Igbo/Fulani, unless Ukwuani is suddenly not Igbo to you.

Innih, Eremobor, Tomoye, and Isemede joined the 3MCDO later - after the Midwest invasion. As for their staying in the army through the Gowon regime which came to power after a coup, they also stayed in the army during the Ironsi administration, and had he not been overthrown, he would have been their boss for the duration of his administration, not Gowon. As for what they were supposed to do, as career soldiers, as the higher ups took positions that led increasingly to war - were they supposed to end their careers? If they did not suddenly resign from the military under Ironsi for no reason, I don't think one could interpret them not suddenly quitting when Gowon was in charge as proof of some kind of sectional bias against the eastern region even when it was not absolutely certain that there would even be a war against the former eastern region until secession was declared. Obviously they intended to stay in the army regardless.

Believe me it is a waste of the time dribbling around with certain craps about Nigeria\Biafra war. Ejoor and Ogbemudia did not wear 3MCDO insignia but they were frontline officers of Nigerian army. Yes, Ejoor was consulted in every move made by Gowon as such he was privy to the plans to invade eastern region both from northern and southern flanks

It is very clear the pretentious shenanigans that mid-westerners joined the Nigeria side because of inversion amounts to bold and bloody falsehood. Nigeria, which instigated military operations against eastern region from northern and southern flanks, from July 6 through 26, 1967 when Bonny was captured included mid-western, western and northern regions. It is a fact there was not time either mid-western, western or northern region raised an objection to the fact that Gowon sat in Lagos and ordered military operation against eastern region on July 6, 1967.

Based on the above facts, I guess eastern region has every right to attack Nigeria from any possible flank deemed necessary. It is equally a glaring fact mid-western region of Nigeria did not comprise only individuals from the ethnicity such as Isoko, Edo, Urhobo, Esan, Ijo or Itsekiri. The argument that the individuals from the aforementioned ethnicities joined Nigeria to fight eastern region because of later‘s retaliatory attack on former through mid-western region is an incompetent hogwash and dishonorable behavior.

Any person with a dot size of brain will wonder why the retaliatory attack on Nigeria by eastern region caused wild vexation that forced Isoko, Edo, Urhobo, Esan, Ijo or Itsekiri to joined Nigeria armed forces in large numbers yet Igbo peeps from the same region did not join. Or does it mean Ndigbo who held and still hold the natural and fundamental claim to portions of acreage known as mid-western region were not bona fide entity.

Again, the Britain-Nigeria\Biafra war had been fought, won and lost. In the process, mortal enemies were created and there is nothing anybody could do about it. The dates of the events are still with us. Only the unrepentant revisionists will moronically attempt to circumvent the chronicle order of real time. Every person with degree of intellect equal to that of a goat knows the month of July precedes August.

@OP

You are simply a disobedient wife. I am not surprise your husband is thinking divorce and I hope he meant it.

dayokanu: If Gowon was an illegal entity being a military head of State, what was Ojuku a military Governor? I guess an illegal entity too?

So you mean a Bastardd who also happens to be an illegal entity drove you to war and you followed him like mumus?

Believe me discussing 1966 Nigerian history with you is akin to talking Physics with Fulani herdsmen.

dayokanu: I have given you notable instance in history where secession led to war. Seceding is against the consitution as Zik wanted it and Gowon being the head of State swore to protect the constitution and he did by crushing Ojuku and his rebels He crushed them fiercely under the boot of Adekunle. Sorry about that but a war has to be won

I guess it is only in your myopic world that an illegal entity is deemed fit to protect a legally constituted document. Who made Gowon head of state after he personally denied having a hand in the coup that saw off Ironsi? No wonder mediocrity ran riot in Nigeria after all when virtues gave way to stupidity, chaos took the place of sanity.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]How many Nigerian Americans are members of congress in the USA? Zero. I wonder why. Do we have any Nigerian organization with lobbying groups fighting for Nigeria's interests in the USA? The answer again is nope.

For what its worth, I attended a Nigerian organization meeting a couple of years back, and the buffoons there were busy shouting as if they were in the market and were on ego trips without accomplishing anything. The only agreement seems to be on the time to start their Oct. 1 party. SMH

@Dede1, I will respond to your post shortly.[/quote]One of the major problems with Nigerians in Diaspora is removing certain aspect of Nigerian demeanor from them.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]The above is a bunch of crap which could only come from typical bitter diasporans. You all forget that some of us have lived in the USA and other countries just like you currently do. Most people who have a balance of just $300,000 in a US account will dispute your statement.

To the extent that a bank will offer you a cup of coffee just as they would a millionaire, you may be right. But try to talk to a loan officer about a personal loan and see if you get the same treatment as a millionaire would get. I'm assuming here that as an Okoro man, you did not keep $1million in a single account but you spread the money in different banks and some under ya matress, hence you will not get the millionaire's treatment.

While you are talking to a loan officer, sweating, a man with $1million balance is taken upstairs for a more personal banking experience.


People like the overanalyst , ekt_bear are hailing your statement and I am sure he can come up with a theoretical or academic explanation for your position, but I'm afraid your position is not supported as a practical matter.[/quote]Nwanne, you are really consummate novice on this subject matter. The above post exposed your degree of intellect and smacked you right on the face for who you really are. Are you sure you set foot on the parade grounds at NDA?

In USA, what matters is your credit score, your total worth (not fiscal cash) against the amount you really want to borrow. If you have $1,000,000 in deposit, what sense does it make if go to the bank for $500,000? If I have better credit rating than you, and a house worth $500,000 with more than $300,000 equity on it, while a sorry ar.se such as you have $500,000 deposit with poor credit rating on a rental property, I shall easily secure loan of $250,000 with low interest rate from a bank easily while a deadbeat such as will continue to run around searching for guarantors.

There is a difference between civilized and uncivilized bro.

dayokanu: When any part of a country secede what follows? When the confederate attempted to secede from US what happened? When Slovenia, Croatia, etc seceded from yugoslavia what happened? Tell us how secession are treated?

If you are expecting Gowon to clap for you them you are a full blown retardd

If you were a consummate retard.ed, you would have realized that not all attempts to secede from union result into war. It will serve you good if you rehearse your half-baked historical facts before opening your putrid mouth.

nagoma: I also had. And I still have righ here in Nigeria where I am not second class.

Just because white cleaners worked under you cannot be considered an achievement.

what is important is the pride of perseverance in building a nation. Ask the Americans , it was never easy.

You are pitifully drunk if you remotely insinuate that European-Americans under my supervision are cleaners. Again, Nigeria is a failed state not a nation. There is a markedly difference between a country and nation. Who in his\her right mind will endeavor to build a nation filled with jackasses such as you? I really do not want to be a killer.

dayokanu: Excellent. So when Part of Nigeria (Yorubaland) was attacked, You were expecting the same people from that part of Nigeria not to respond? Thats outright stupidity if thats your line of thought

You attacked our part of Nigeria and we responded in kind. Its not our fault that our hand was stronger than your or Adekunle, Awolowo, and Obasanjo understood what wa was about while that bearded bastard thought it was another beer drinking contest.

Kill our leaders we are supposed to take it and not respond.

Attack our lands, we are supposed to take it and not respond. Are you guys serious? Not everyone is Daft like Ojuku

When I said you are a loudmouthed and empty-headed dullard, I guess it was a fully deserved compliment of the season. Seriously, I do not think all Yoruba peeps are dumbass stiffs such as you. The few of the Yoruba peeps who thought the actions of Gowon in ordering Nigerian soldiers to attack eastern region were wrong let their voices heard.

dayokanu: Can you tell us what Biafran soldiers were doing attacking Midwest and SouthWest if they are not enemies?

The attack on the SW was the turning point in the war and Yes in wars you crush your enemies You crush them like Black Scorpion did.

Its funny that Ibos expect others to be moral towards them but throw out their own moralty when it comes to killing other leaders and sparing theirs, I am sure you have an explanation for that already. In time of peace, Ibo soldiers killed other leaders and spared their yet they expect the other side to be moral to the in times of war? Delusion at its best

You kill my father or uncle, attack my land yet expect me to be moral when dealing with you. Well sorry the sun doesnt shine from your arse. I would crush you like Adekunle did

At this stage of your miserable life, even if you were killed, I think you can not understand the simple fact that western and mid-western regions were integral part of Nigeria led by one moronic Gowon. When Gowon, who sat in Lagos and leader of Nigeria, ordered Nigerians troops to attack eastern region, any part of Nigeria became an open session.

Godogwu: And the roads where death traps and all the other rubbish you were saying?.......I'm sure if all the roads are death traps like you were say, Nigeria will have a way lesser population by now.

If they were death traps, I guess humans are intelligent enough to avoid their clamps. Last month, I wanted to send my sister-in-law on errand from Owerri to my village, she told me that one federal road that passes through my village was temporally decommissioned due to flood water. Believe me, it did not take long before a contributor to this forum confirmed the sorry tale of the certain roads in and around Owerri with posts accompanied by pictures.

nagoma: Typical good for nothing parasite. A hitch-hiker who doesnt seem to realize that all those good things in the orderly environment are other peoples hard work. The didnt just happen.How about you coming down to do some work once in your life even if is killing a few mosquitoes.You could be counted in the list of the developers of Nigeria in 1000 years, but for now you are a whiteman's nigga and a pest.

It takes one deluded parasite to recognize another. Unlike you who had remained a panhandler since the rays of sun hit your ugly face, I had never taken any cent from Nigeria. It would amount to waste of time trying to teach numbskull such as you ways of orderly behavior. It is no folly you still regard a person as “whiteman”. No wonder Nigeria is bubbling with ninnies. I had European-Americans under my supervision, olodo.

Godogwu: @OP like you said, it's not all the Nigeria's in diaspora but some of them. Some of them sicken me. I am international student, so I'm in an out of the US like every year and when some of these my diaspora uncles/ aunties find out my school fees and the fact that I don't use any sort of loans or whatever, they begin to question my dads or mums integrity saying they must be looting money, like!! WTH? They earn salaries. Recently my mum came visiting and on Nigeria's independence she told one of my uncles "happy independence", he replied her with the same words too then later added "52 years of nonsense and failure", my mum got mad and told him that it's people like him that failed Nigeria and generally that's how I feel about these bitter diaspora Nigerians. It's funny how some feel they have ALL the ANWERS to the problems Nigeria is facing yet they are living with next to nothing. Some can't even acknowledge the fact that there are Nigerians making it in their homeland with no connection to corruption or whatsoever. That being said, I would repeat that not all diaspora Nigerians act this way and obviously there are Nigerians that would do anything to relocate to some western country because they are generally brainwashed that its all rosy on the other end.

You simply can not eat your cake and have it. Why international student if I may ask you? I guess Nigeria schools are better than schools outside the country. If I were in your shoes as you would want us to believe, I had shunned the idea of studying outside the shores of Nigeria.

Godogwu: Please, when last were you in Nigeria ?

December, 2011.

[quote author=Arkt!^3]My brother abeg tell that FOOL.....he was deported from the UK that's why he's angry. [/quote]It is nice to notice your acts of buffoonery in the public arena.

ballabriggs: Hehehehe Dede inyoburule. For the very first time I have to agree with an omekome like you.

ballabricks

I know common sense does not exist in your miserable life. However it is good to understand you appreciate intellectual discussion when your junkie mind is not tribally tinted, olodo.

Jenams: typical example of who this thread is all about. Keep cryin over mosquito & snake bite while Ūя̅ mates back home rake in millions into their accounts.

Your stream of thought is the basic conflict of this discussion. Everybody should not rake millions into an account to be regarded as human. In USA, whether a customer of any bank had deposit of $100.00 or $1, 000,000, he or she attracts the same cordial respect from the bank.