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Ovamboland: Nigeria's GDP is estimated at $413Bn but adding informal sector may push it to $520BnEven to further help the statistics you supplied and based on the alleged production of 2.2 million barrels daily, Nigeria only takes 60% of 2.2 barrels because of contractual agreement between Nigeria and extracting corporations. |
Ibime: This is an old and silly debate we used to have on Nairaland years back.Most of the best schools and hospitals built in the real estate known as Nigeria were erected before the stup.id crude oil was struck. Nigeria would have been better off without crude oil than with crude oil. Other than Abuja, there is no new city erected in Nigeria since crude oil was struck in commercial quantity in 1956. The discovery of crude oil in Nigeria has germinated absurd social decadence in our society. The worst of all, it made so many goons think crude oil is the start and end of Nigeria. I really wish the crude oil will suddenly dry up in Nigeria. There is nothing about government and crude oil in my community. The revenue derived from levy on stalls in the market square runs the community. How many people in your household work for government at any level? In some communities in Igbo, the majority of people are traders or farmers or self-employed. And for moronic dimwits who has cast aspersion on the northern Nigerian farmers, they should remember that when Shell D’arcy wanted to fold its crude oil exploration in southern protectorate due to series of dry wells and lack of fund, money donated by the farmers in eastern and northern region helped sustain the exploration efforts. In USA, agricultural sector is a sacred cow and treated with care because it the root of all economic activities. It is really unfortunate you address agricultural sector with spiteful disdain in your post. |
ifihearam: The Court yesterday ordered the Imo state governor to reinstate the sacked local government chairmen and councillors he replaced with transition committee last year. The court further explained that the governor does not have the power to remove democratically elected persons.If Rochas Okorocha wants us to believe there is iota of democratic principles in him, he must comply with the ruling of the court. I hope some of his praise singers should realize that Okorocha may not have happy days in his life after his term of office if he fails to change some of his political ways. He could find a room in Nigerian courts because he will be in and out of legal proceedings when he leaves office as governor. He should have my support if he adopts the democratic ways of governance. |
agbotaen: who told you ika people need a demented people like your people, you people as still suffering from effects of the war and that is why most of you always behave like bull dogs when people dont accept your ideas, do ika people need igbo ? the answer is noDo you remember one Navy Commander Fred Anuku? Believe me, the last thing Igbo would want is Ika.I guess only a bloody fool in Nigeria from a certain ethnic group would dream of crossing swords with Ndigbo. This statement is in respect to your idiotic comment about 1966 treatment. |
Becomrich0: You see, The problem we have in nigeria is the media, and the igbo media men are twisting the truth. But thank God for google earth satellite pictures the truth is coming out.The interesting part of the above post lies with title of Owa Kingdom. All the titles, Igirigi Enweiwe, Oriowe and Odafe Arakeze, are Igbo not Edo. There is always a place the tire meets the roads. I do believe that the area in discuss have many Edo or Ishan who ran south-east to avoid the wrath of one of the wicked Oba. These runaways still cling to Edo-sounding names. I guess such minor instance does not give the impetuous to spew crap on Nairaland. |
One of the reasons I dogmatically call for disintegration of Nigeria is crude oil. I do not care if my country does not have a drop of crude oil after the disintegration but hope the absence of crude oil will bring out tenacity and creativity in my people to make sands valuable. |
homerac7: Argh!...@OP, Dede1 and KoboAs a layman, I understand that GNI is GDP less both gross imports of goods and service and indirect business taxes. |
Genius100: Chief, I believe the above refers to the contributors to GROWTH in GDP. So essentially, if the GDP grew by 7%, the above is referring to the contributors for the 7% growth.Professor, let us assume you are correct on the 7% growth which, according to you, is a trend. Where on the chart is a sign that this trend will change at 100% growth? If the crude oil sector is running miserably third on a growth chart at 7%, it could be fourth or even worse at 100% if we could follow your ridiculous postulation. |
It is imperative that those of you who have arrogated the expertise on national economy to yourselves need to shade more light on the issue of GDP than issuing posts based on rumor. The responses to the OP seem to fellow a typical pattern known to Nigerians. I remembered vividly that it was money earned from Palm Oil and Groundnut sustained the exploration of crude oil in the real estate later known as Nigeria. Economics 101 tells me that GDP is the market value of all officially recognized final goods and services produced within a country in given period. The statistical chart posted by the OP does not indicate that crude oil sector is the top producer. |
ballabriggs: This is erroneous.You seem to be ignorantly held in delusional crucibles. If you think crude oil is the only and major exporter earner of Nigeria, you must be drunk on crude oil. Real Estate later knwon as Nigeria was performing equitable fine in all aspects of human endeavor before the discovery of crude oil. Since crude oil was struck, Nigeria has become a basket of political acrimony, tribal hatred, religious intolerance, humanistic antagonism, unbridled corruption and retrogressive growth. I really want disintegration of Nigeria by any means available so that few goons in Nigeria would realize they would have been better off without crude oil and the second half of the goons would realize they do not have crude oil after all. |
Before now I have agreed Nigeria is a mere geographical expression. But after the pronouncement alleged to have been made by NSA, Dasuki, in respect to phone numbers and Boko Haram leadership, I deduced the Nigeria is a silly geographical expression. When did Dasuki come in contact with phone numbers of murderous Islamic group known as Boko Haram? And what action did the government initiate to deal with Boko Haram other than idiotic press release of holding dialogue with the murderous Islamic group? In fact, I do not blame these moronic dingbats from northern region of Nigeria but visionless ninnies from southern region. |
Nigerians tend to dance around issues and embrace mediocrity. I suggest Nigeria should scrap visionless NYSC program. It is funny NYSC members sent to cement the cordial relationship among Nigerians are slaughtered by their host. |
Most Nigerians are simply deluded. The damnable crude oil and gas sector is the third highest earner or contributor to Nigeria’s GNP. |
[quote author=~Bluetooth]Ibos dont have a kingdom but small villages which I'm sure had very hardened criminals at that time.[/quote]I guess you meant the hardened criminals the Nupe and Fulani chased away from Oyo ile which was 30+ miles north of present day Ilorin. |
@PhysicsQED Good to know that the so-called Benin Empire was filled to the brink with criminals and destitute people. I guess British did not visit other kingdoms before Benin and there were no criminals and destitute people in those other kingdoms too. |
PhysicsQED: How are people "piling too much weight to the position of certain traditional rulers"?Oba of Benin was told in no uncertain language to sit quietly in Benin City and avoid certain human endeavors by the western regional governemnt under Awo. I guess you remembered the famous political quote that made rounds in the old western region of Nigeria. The little authority of Oba of Benin wielded prior to the British invasion ended in 1897. Of course, you would argue the dead bodies and in some cases headless ones were those of criminals and destitute people who never had a proper burial as if Benin Empire was jungle. Anyway, Benin Empire was what it was, village. The statement from you about British claim or lack thereof is plain laughable. It is noted in history books that Oba dying in Calabar was not as result of the power wielded by Oba. What different does it make if Oba died happily or crazily? |
It is funny some Nigerians are piling too much weight to the position of certain traditional rulers in Nigeria. The doubt people have about the position of Alaafin of Oyo was brought by the western regional government led by Awolowo. In the same stance, the western regional government reduced the position of Oba of Benin to mere name recognition. I guess the same gods that informed the Oba of Benin to embark on lavish sacrifices, including humans, to avert the wrath of British Empire in 1897. Yet the Oba died as an inconsequential prisoner in a faraway land. |
Anybody who remotely insinuates any component that constitutes the history of Nigeria should be swept under the rug is a compound fool. |
dasparrow: Yes they did. I found that out here on nairaland. Read this academic piece by Dr Rasheed Olaniyi (Ph.D): http://www.imi.ox.ac.uk/pdfs/rasheed-olaniyiWhen will these goofy individuals leave Igbo people out of their tribal madness in Nigeria? First of all, Dr. Kofi Abrefo Busia became Ghana Prime Minister on October 1, 1969. The Alliance Compliance Order did not come until Busia was sworn-in on October 1, 1969. One wonders where Dr Olaniyi got the drift that Ndigbo were allowed to stay in Ghana while the Yoruba were deported which led him/her to conclude that Yoruba were more adversely affected than Igbo. All Africans of non-Ghanaian citizen were affected by the Alliance Compliance Order of 1969. The bulk of Nigerian deported from Ghana peaked after the civil war in January 1970. |
PhysicsQED: The NCNC and its members were definitely a credit to the nation in the pre-independence era, especially for their non-ethnic/regional orientation.I do not know where got the idea that since NCNC came across as a party with national coverage all local/independent parties automatically being subsumed under it. After all, Niger Delta Congress in eastern region contested under the platform of NPC. Some memebers of Urhobo Progressive Union also contested elections under the umbrella of Action Group. This mindset of overbearing ethnic sentiment remains one of the reason I furiously call for Republic of Igbo land. |
PhysicsQED: I've looked up the part in bold and the only thing I could find on it were that Ijaws from what is now Rivers state were briefly trained in Escravos before joining in the assault on Bonny by Nigerian soldiers in 1967.What made you think I could believe an iota of your posts when you had issues with the plight of Ighodaro in crossing to AG and NCNC as a party with national coverage? |
PhysicsQED: Well your understanding is wrong. Where are you getting that all the members contested "under the chosen platform of NCNC"? I would hazard a guess that there was a general understanding that somebody who was a member of Otu Edo would not go for the AG over the NCNC because of the origins of Otu Edo and what motivated its formation, but a general understanding is not the same thing as an actual agreement. The only things I have come across which could even imply what you've written above are those writings which falsely claim that Otu Edo was some sort of local branch of the NCNC. I don't know how a local party is supposed to have national coverage and I also don't understand how a local party can be excluded from running and capturing its local area on the basis of not being part of an allegedly larger party which allegedly has "national coverage". You're claiming that local parties could not win areas unless they affiliated with a "party with national coverage" (how does one define national coverage? Did the NPC have national coverage in the south? Did the NCNC have national coverage outside of the East and West?) beforehand?NCNC was the only political party touted as national party or party with national and international coverage in the ear in discuss. It is unfortunate that someone, due to ethnic or tribal inducement, seemed to tarnish such reputation. |
PhysicsQED: You seem convinced that attacks were launched from Escravos before the Midwestern invasion by Biafra - I've never seen proof of this. I'm not sure whether I really care. The claim that Gowon recalled two battalions from Bonny to Escravos in 1967 is also contained in Obasanjo's book My command (1980). If you have an issue with this, then you should provide legitimate sources stating otherwise.I am not interested in any form of debate with the followers of hack writers who were clearly enemies of Biafra over the military assault on Ubani (Bonny) which originated from Escravos, Mid-western region. Some players in the theater of the war such Adaka Boro who was involved in the amphibious operation on Bony were trained in Escravos. My intentions are to disabuse the minds of young Biafrans who might have been poisoned with the junks enemies of Biafra imbedded in obscure newspapers or Internet. |
PhysicsQED: Dede1, Otu Edo was in alliance with the NCNC after 1951, right?Please read what I wrote to comprehend properly. To the best of my knowledge, Otu Edo was a cultural organization that had political ramification as well. Since it was not a political party or a party with national coverage, the members contested under the chosen platform of NCNC. It is also my understanding that Otu Edo may choose to contest on the platform of other party than NCNC. |
PhysicsQED: https://www.nairaland.com/945502/nigeria-break-up-2015/13#10923238You really disappointed me with this post. Do you tend to tell me you hedged your facts on a link to a posted by someone who could not discern the difference between 1967 and 1968? One of the glaring stupidity or highlight in the post was citing a division (army unit) from Lagos Garrison Organization which is not up to a brigade or even battalion. |
Katsumoto: I apologise in advance but you sir are a slippery and pathetic old man. You speak from all sides of your mouth and yet you have the nerve to accuse others of being backstabbers.It is not my place to ruminate with the choice of language of one Mr Elaigwu. However when he wrote “Many people of Rivers and South-Eastern States origin were seen dancing in Lagos and enlisting en masse into the Federal Army” after Gowon had announced the creation of 12 States, he never minced words of his intentions. If Gowon had addressed himself as C-in-C and head of state in the so-called speech, there should have been no issue of his authority over the country. However, he cunningly addressed himself as Lt Col and Army Chief of Staff. Again, it was not Gowon’s place to address the nation in such situation. It was the duty of the Army Supreme Headquarters and should have rightfully broadcasted by one Ogundipe who was Chief of Staff Supreme Military Headquarters and the 2ic to C-in-C. I do not make claims but acknowledge facts with expeditionary research. There is no doubt in my mind that NCNC won the 1951 regional election in western region of Nigeria. The reason behind the example of Chief SO Ighodaro and Otu Edo was to let you know that all the craps you post as election result of 1951 were nonsense because almost the groups in the post were not political parties or parties with national coverage as required by law to stand electioneering scrutiny of the era in discuss. While on the Ighodaro, I should remain you that when 1954 regional election showed face, the chief ran under AG platform and lost his deposit. I guess we have serious misunderstanding who was actual Biafra or not. Again, I think a good argument could be made for those who were in eastern region when the region was declared Biafra or easterners who patriotically believed in Biafra can be described as Biafrans. Even some folks among us today who were not born in Biafra or eastern region but had forbearers who were Biafrans and had patriotically accepted the spirit of Biafra are Biafrans nonetheless. |
hercules07: Quit digging.What is there to dig? The facts about Nigeria/Biafra war are ever present for people who are pure in heart. |
Katsumoto: ACMYou sound very pathetic with this post. When J. Isawa Elaigwu wrote “many people of Rivers and South-Eastern State origin seen dancing in Lagos and enlisting en masse in to the Federal Army”, he was not in any form of illusion about his assertion. I guess you mischievously decided to play ignorant to the fact that Elaigwu meant Rivers State and South-Eastern State of the twelve original states created by Gowon. Let me refresh your memory for good understanding of the facts. South-Eastern State as referenced in the book morphed into Akwa Ibom and Cross River States while Rivers State gave rise to Rivers and Bayelsa States. In addition, remember there was East Central State. Did you catch the dude’s drift? I suggest you drop the bull horn about the reference made by Elaigwu on the states. Besides, it has been repeatedly rehearsed that not everybody from eastern region is regarded as Biafran hence the issue of betrayal. Even though I do not pay many dividends to references made by self-styled authorities on the Nigeria/Biafra palaver, anybody with dot of brain cell will discern that Elaigwu knowingly or unknowingly painted East Central State as Biafra hence Biafra is Igbo affair. |
T9ksy: Look at a pot calling a kettle, black! Agabya ni e- you are a good for nothing old man. And what do you termed "established facts?" You mean, like the one where you and your ilk claimed (and still continue to claim) that NCNC won the 1951 regional election in western nigeria but till date, cannot produce the results for all to peruse. Is that your concept of "established facts"? Yeye man! you have no moral standing to lecture anyone here on established facts as you have no idea of what it means. You no dey shame sef!!!Shut the freaking up toddler. Even if the facts are set under your nose, agbaya kekere such as you would still demand for proof. |
CyberG: Some people like this ^^ will kaput talking gibberish forever with nothing to show for it! History is established facts of the past and facts are stubborn things that cannot be re-written!Shut up your putrid mouth young man. What do you know about history and established facts? |
ACM10: GOWONDo not pay any mind to Katsumoto when he throws those ridiculous challenges after being fed with junks written by enemies of Biafra and those who would do anything humanly possible to justify their utter stupidity for joining force with Gowon Nigeria. Sometimes I wonder why most southern Nigerians shun books about the Nigeria/Biafra civil war written by authors such as J. Isawa Elaigwu or Bala Usman who had no reason to justify their actions during the civil war. As far as I concerned, the water has gone under the bridge and there nothing anybody could do in order to germinate seed of unity and camaraderie among the people of southern provinces of Nigeria. |
Katsumoto: And as usual, you failed to address the post but proceeded to introduce irrelevant information. I stated that there was a mass recruitment after the Biafran incursion and you replied that someone was conjecturing that southern citizens couldn't stand up to Gowon and were begging Gowon to allow them into the forces. Where did you read that in my post? If someone else made that conjecture, then direct the response above to them and not to me.It is unfortunate you keep stressing the irrelevant fact about massive recruitment of soldiers by Nigeria after Biafra reacted to the occupation of its territory by Gowon and Nigeria. Of course, there was massive recruitment on both sides after Biafra decided to pay Nigeria back in its coin when it attacked Nigeria through Midwestern region. Anybody who has been on parade ground would realize that LGO was not up to battalion strength but was built into brigade strength at Escravos, Midwestern region from July 29, 1966 to July 12, 1967. At the period too, Ibadan garrison organization was not up to battalion yet was built up to a division by the aforementioned periods. My beef in all this historical twist is on the efforts of the goons who are bent on sitting history on its head by repeatedly and foolishly insinuating essence of neutrality on the part of certain section of Nigeria. Those who fought with Nigeria were not mandated as it was for those who fought with Biafra. However, it is beyond human silliness to insinuate that Biafra’s reaction to Nigeria’s incursion into eastern region of Nigeria triggered the fever pitch urge of Yoruba, Edo, Urhobo, Ishan, Itsekiri, Ijo, Ejegam and Efik to serve in Gowon’s Nigerian army of 1967. |
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