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basilico:
Bombshell bombshell

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/may/8/white-house-official-monica-crowley-promises-bombshell-2020-election/


Ambassador Monica Crowley, the U.S. government’s chief of protocol, said the administration will “soon” produce evidence that proves President Trump won the 2020 election.

Ms. Crowley, speaking Wednesday at an event hosted by Breitbart News, didn’t reveal more about the evidence but expressed confidence in what it would show.

“He did win in a landslide, and we will soon be able to give evidence about that,” she said.

That matches comments by other high officials, including FBI Director Kash Patel, who have talked about evidence of a conspiracy to subvert the 2020 vote, which made President Joseph R. Biden the victor over Mr. Trump’s vehement objections

I'll be following and updating this story


https://thefederalist.com/2026/05/11/fulton-county-fights-federal-subpoena-for-records-about-botched-2020-election/

Fulton county whose 600,000 ballots were seized by FBI got a new subpoena ...
It seeks names, positions/functions, residential addresses, email addresses, and personal telephone numbers for essentially the entire 2020 Fulton election workforce.

They are fighting against this new one , requested by a prosecutor outside of Georgia. Most likely a Florida prosecutor.

This is no laughing matter. It has been established that Obama, Hillary, Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Strzok etc conjured up the Russia hoax ,then conspired to remove him via Mueller and sham impeachment 1.
Logically it follows, they took him out through the 2020 fraudulent elections after which they sought to silence,jail, bankrupt and murder him to cover up the original sin.
Media played a huge role in the scandal.

I'll have the last laugh.

Nemo judex in causa sua.
How many times have i said this to you?
Is it lost on you?

LordReed:
I thought we had a discussion where I numerated some of what we would class as the characteristics of artificial life. Lemme see if I can find it.

Here -
https://www.nairaland.com/8532287/rambling-talk-deepsight

Budaatum was involved.

As an aside, I first tried to use Gemini to find this and here's what it said about us - I thought that interesting!

The debate you’re looking for likely occurred within a broader discussion on materialism, atheism, or the nature of the soul, which are frequent topics for LordReed (who typically holds a materialist/atheist perspective) and Deepsight (who often argues from a deist/spiritualist position) on Nairaland.

While a single thread titled "Can a machine be conscious?" may not be the primary landing spot, their most extensive interactions on this specific subject usually appear in these high-traffic threads:

1. "The Argument From Consciousness"
In many threads within the Religion or Science/Technology sections, Deepsight often challenges the materialist view by arguing that consciousness is non-material and therefore cannot be "assembled" via hardware. LordReed typically counters that consciousness is an emergent property of biological "wetware," implying that sufficiently complex artificial hardware could theoretically achieve the same.

2. "The Hard Problem Of Consciousness"
This is a recurring theme where the two users have traded long-form arguments. Deepsight often uses the "Chinese Room" type of logic to argue that a machine only simulates understanding, whereas LordReed focuses on the lack of evidence for any "extra-physical" component to the human mind.

The debates between Deepsight and LordReed on Nairaland represent one of the forum's most enduring intellectual rivalries, often serving as a "Clash of the Titans" between two distinct philosophical worldviews: Deism/Rationalism and Atheism/Materialism.
Here is a comparison of their debating styles, philosophical foundations, and the "intellectual signatures" they bring to the platform.
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1. Philosophical Foundations

Worldview
Deepsight: Deist / Transcendentalist. Believes in a necessary "First Cause" or "Infinite Intelligence."
LordReed: Atheist / Materialist. Maintains that the physical universe is all there is, governed by natural laws.

Consciousness
Deepsight: Argues it is non-material and cannot be reduced to biological or mechanical parts.
LordReed: Argues it is an emergent property of biological processes (the "wetware" of the brain).

Logic Source
Deepsight: Relies heavily on Metaphysics and abstract reasoning (e.g., the Law of Cause and Effect).
LordReed: Relies on Empiricism and the Scientific Method; if it can't be measured, it’s speculative.
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2. Debating Style and Rhetoric
Deepsight: The Classical Orator
• Tone: Highly formal, often poetic, and occasionally aggressive in a "high-brow" manner. He uses expansive vocabulary and long-form essays.
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• Tactics: He prefers Socratic questioning and building "logical traps" based on definitions. He often accuses his opponents of "intellectual dishonesty" if they don't follow his deductive leaps.
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• The "Vibe": Intellectualist and philosophical. He views the universe as a grand, purposeful design that can be understood through pure thought.

LordReed: The Pragmatic Skeptic
• Tone: Concise, dry, and clinical. He often uses short, "pithy" responses to dismantle complex arguments.

• Tactics: He focuses on the Burden of Proof. He rarely makes positive claims about the unknown, instead asking his opponent to provide verifiable evidence for theirs. He is famous for the "Where is the evidence?" pivot.

• The "Vibe": Grounded and skeptical. He views the universe as a series of observable phenomena that require no supernatural explanation.
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3. Key Points of Friction

The "spark" in their debates usually occurs at these three junctions:

• The "Origin" Problem: Deepsight argues that "something cannot come from nothing," necessitating a Creator. LordReed typically counters that we simply "don't know" yet, and "I don't know" is a more honest answer than "God did it."
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• The Nature of Intelligence: Deepsight views human intelligence as a "spark" of the divine or the infinite. LordReed views it as a survival adaptation—highly complex, but ultimately mechanical.
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• Objective vs. Subjective Morality: Deepsight often looks for an objective moral anchor; LordReed argues that morality is a social construct evolved for tribal cohesion.
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4. Summary of the Rivalry

In the Nairaland ecosystem, Deepsight acts as the "Philosopher-King," defending the idea that there is more to life than meets the eye through rigorous (though often abstract) logic. LordReed acts as the "Chief Inquisitor" of the religious and spiritual, using the razor of Occam’s Law to trim away any claims that aren't backed by data. While they rarely—if ever—reach a consensus, their debates are highly regarded for their civility (relative to the rest of the forum) and the depth of the subject matter.

LordReed:
I thought we had a discussion where I numerated some of what we would class as the characteristics of artificial life. Lemme see if I can find it.

Maybe in the mind and matter thread.

Ha!

Thus kwantri!

Xcxxxxxx

LordReed:
A life whose origins are not natural i.e. created life.

I still struggle. In what sense will it be living. Is it merely by self replication?

If that is the case would you say that a self replicating nanobot must be a living thing.

Kukutente23:
And to add
How many married women will be in paradise in Islam? What is the odd of a Muslim woman ending up in heaven or hell on account of being married?
Does marriage lead to paradise or hell for married women in Islam?
If they face domestic violence on earth because the husband accused them of being ungrateful, can they look forward to a life in paradise as comfort for their pains in earth or they are condemned to hell on account of their ungratefulness?

DeepSight tenq Lukuluku69 Antiislam doffman expanse2020 honesttalk21 Gabrielshow24

The question I will ask is if a married woman does get to Al Jannah, what is in store for her.

1. To be part of a retinue of virgins for men?

2. Will she have a retinue of male virgins?

Who will the married woman be with? Because the Hadith says that she will be with the last of her husbands.

If that husband is to have a retinue of virgins as his reward, how will she be happy in Al Jannah Firdaws.

basilico:
Your first instinct, which may be from conditioning, aversion or inbuilt into your DNA is to criticize without knowledge of the contents. Those are three long articles .
Stop trying to personalize this because I posted it.
If it was Kamala Harris who has done the same , you'd have run out of praises to extoll her .
A blind person can see that .

How can you people ever be helped. The articles are critical of Trump in some aspects

That is how you would presume I would praise Obama over Libya.

basilico:
"cross posted**

A few months ago I was declared a lunatic and heretic elsewhere for posting that Trump's actions are not geared against Russia but China.
Clayton Wood took my advice and wrote 3 quite long articles about China vs America

https://claytonswood.substack.com/p/understanding-the-dragon-post-3-of

Trump has undertaken huge efforts to neuter China on
_Panama Canal
_Venezuela oil
_Iranian oil
_Greenland rare earth elements
_ Taiwan

In 6 months America has obliterated the Chinese global air defense market . No country will buy Chinese radars which were advertised as capable of downing F-22s, F-35s and the B-2s.

Very informative,that link is the final part,the other 2 are in the substack.


Trump wants the Ukraine war to end so that he has all the time to deal with China.
Putin is no threat to the west as long as nukes are not flying. He needs the west buying gas, and fertilizers more. Plus cooperating on Space Projects

Deepsight

It's glaring Trump has made many impulsive errors. Glaring. Why do you people have this desire to always explain away his gaffes as hidden genius chess moves.

budaatum:
You do not sound sure enough, it seems to me.

I lost my brand new Motorola in a maruwa once. I too checked my pocket and chased down the maruwa, but I must have not noticed another one pass and ended up getting the wrong one. I called it immediately and it rang a couple of times, and that was it, gone.

It pained me much as I just bought it for my trip home and lost it in less than a week! Ended up with a Blackberry Z30, which I loved, then a Blackberry Motion, which I loved even more, and have been OnePlus Nords since, which I like.

This cannot have been as painful as what happened to me some fifteen years ago. Was going to the beach with my fiance and friends and decided to splurge on Ermenegildo Zegna shades. Cost a pretty penny. Got to the beach, put them on a table, laughed and boom! The shades just purchased at dear cost to impress my finances friends disappeared!

LordReed:
It's a sign it could become artificial life.

What exactly would that mean. I mean, can life be artificial? What would artificial life be like? A copy of living things? Fake life? Exactly what?

GloriousGbola:
To be fair to him he was the bagman - the money would have been shared

It is however lesson because at the time the guy was really posturing and presenting himself as some sort of moral crusading force and nigerians all bought into it.

I swear. He was all the rage as a saint in the assembly. As the one exposing and fighting kwarapshin.

Men, Otedola dealt with him.

MICHEALADEX:
To be chairman of another committee... I think members should stop wearing caps and agbada

To avoid hiding places!



Bleep

ColdHunter:
OP say na after "years in prison".

You must be a comedian to think that this man was in prison.

The same kind of prison Dariye and Abba Kyari went to bah.

You guys are so ignorant.

GBAM!

That's as to the general nature of Nigeria yes.

But this man may have spent time if you look at the weight he lost. That could be depression sha.
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

LordReed:
No, self replication.

As a sign of being a living thing?

LordReed:
Bro I dunno if you've seen this:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/may/07/no-one-has-done-this-in-the-wild-study-observes-ai-replicate-itself

Am I right that your thinking is if this can suggest machine or computer or software consciousness?

Hussein035:
Ifa has been updated just like the Bible

If you still don't believe Islam is the only way then I wish you good luck in Jahanam

What is wrong with you people? Why do you despise your traditions and see them as useless and inferior, but cleave to the traditions of foreigners? Do you not know that you are thereby calling yourselves inferior?

Namaster:
Death by STEWPIDITY!



Drummers thought it was part of the SHOW.

You noticed how the dancer beside him first dances as though it was part of the act.

BeginsAtHome:
Dis you not see where i said he took the form of a human?

Standard Christian doctrine says that he was fully man and fully God, at least for those who believe in the pagan doctrine of the Trinity.

You however say he was (God? - or not human) but simply took the form of a human.

Which is correct.

At all events, let's be clear:

1. If he was not a human, then he could not have experienced human pain and fear in the full sense the way humans do

2. If he was not a human he could not have experienced death the way humans do

LordReed:
LoLz. What has that got to do with your people praying in front of a golden statue?

Eerily reminiscent of a golden calf.

benalvino3:
Lol.

When I told you Biden was accused of rape you said it did not go to court, so you are not seeing him as a rapist but you call Trump a pdf and no court said he is a pdf. Why is that?

But a court held him liable for sexual assault and he had to pay.

benalvino3:
With your gutter-level understanding, you should ask someone you can trust, probably the person feeding you to explain to you what Kirk actually said and what his arguments are. 😂

Mere emotion.

benalvino3:
You are a wrapping strawman argument in sarcasm. pretending that because I criticize some modern outcomes or policies, I must secretly support slavery, Jim Crow, or apartheid. Na you sabi.

I have said clearly that slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, and apartheid were evil. u know I said that, but because u cannot answer to the actual argument, u pretend I support oppression.

Is like saying if I criticize corruption in post-colonial African governments, then I must support colonialism. Nonsense. And do note that I have argued that colonialism helped us. I have talked about the good side. It may seem like a contradiction, but somethings are very complicated.

So

Two things can be true at once: historical oppression was evil, and some modern solutions have failed or created new problems.

My argument is not that Black people were better under oppression.

My argument is that legal equality was necessary, but after legal barriers were removed, communities still need family stability, education, discipline, safe neighborhoods, responsibility, and good governance.

If you disagree with this then you are part of the problem as you close your eyes and allow the community to implode.

But you supported Kirk saying that blacks were better behaved "when they did not have equal rights."

benalvino3:
Bayelsaowei and deepsight will tell you they are fighting inequality. It's sad how people especially bayelsaowei who I personally believe is a smart person fall for these nonsense

Please can you read out the moniker that posted that on X?

raumdeuter:
https://x.com/i/status/2053187053760737552

You are talking to bemeruca

benalvino3:
When you concede this is how you sound.

No argument whatsoever. 😂
Only gutter-level response

Mere emotion.

benalvino3:
See how he is still lying that is majority of the land. Despite being corrected many times over.

Now that blacks think they are a victim of Nigerians. What apartheid did Nigerians impose on them?

You people are never sincere.

That's your gutter-level understanding of anything.

Foreign Indians with business are not being attacked in SA, it is Nigerians with business.

When you realize how blacks in the US and south Africa are their own biggest issue, then you will start to understand when people talk about solutions and calling out the issues plaguing black the community.

Playing victim and swimming in the pool of hatred for any race or person does not solve anything.

Joker.

Truly, these so called conservatives here are the wretched of the Earth.

bayelsaowei:
But blacks were much better when they were enslaved.. family units were more intact, blacks were more hardworking, there were no freebies as blacks had to work hard to eke a living, no protests (protests are for weaklings who can’t compete), no DEI (DEIs are for lazy blacks) etc..

How you wish you existed before 1964.. you would have loved oppression like you love your life.

Right?

Well said. That he cannot see that he is attempting to chew stones is comical.

benalvino3:
If you go a few days back post etc. Even my discussion today with deepsight, I have said Jim Crow and apartheid are bad. Slavery and segregation. I am against all this.

You guys can lie all you want. When you can't argue with facts, you conjure lies.

Then you are contradicting yourself both today and in your whole doctrine.

For today, the contradiction is saying that apartheid is bad and then saying that white minority ownership of the majority of the land in SA which resulted from apartheid is justified.

For your whole doctrine, saying that segregation and racism are bad is at odds with your stance in justifying their results and even seeking greater oppression of black folk.

bayelsaowei:
They love all of the above.. they love it and wish it continued intensely just as it was in the past. They wish nobody ever fought against all you have listed, as it all leads to or has led to lazy black humans all over the world..

😀😀😀

Its obvious they do, they have even avoided answering the question like a plague. They cant say it openly that they like apartheid and segregation and slavery. Afterall they have been singing about how black families were better off under segregation and they even supported the racist Charlie Kirk for saying that.