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Its not always the case. I didnt learn to speak proper yoruba until i was about 10yrs old. My mom is igbo so my father never spoke yoruba ini the house and made sure everyone else spoke English so my mom didnt feel left out.

Well, your statement flawed my hypothesis although environment may be a factor. Had it been you grew up in Egypt for example, you are more likely to speak ibo than yoruba because your mom is ibo. Men are so poor in transferring their mother tongue to their kids. I still believe you should be able to at least understand ibo unless your mother alienated herself from her relatives.

when I say the ones here, here is referring to Nairaland, funmi

as for the ones I know, I live in NY so we have a decent size of the Igbo community.

as for Ibibo, plenty of threads with them syaing their language is dying out because kids of now think it's "razz" and "local" so they refus eto learn or speak it.

Girl, don't believe everything you read online because some of these people whining about Ibibios or Efiks are not even one.

For once a helpful topic not aimed at men! Kiss Kiss Kiss

didn't know you had it in you girl

My next topic will specifically target your azz.

More hands on approach by parents. Too much is simply left to peer groups, schools, TV, Internet and the rest. If you imbibe your good values into your children, then they will grow up with them. Even if they don't value those things immediately, they'll value them later.

The love of Dollar will kill Nigerian people here.

Not to burst your bubble, but a lot of the same is being replicated at home too - na so so English everywhere and no Yoruba for a lot of kids. All in an attempt to appear 'educated'.

Even at home? i think the federal govt should target the media and force them to re orientate these parents and their kids . Osun pride!!!!

I know because the Igbos I know and even the one here who live aboard complain about how the "generation of now" have forsaken their language or going as far as pretending that they can't speak it and go as far as comparing the plight to the Yorubas here.

same thing yorubas complain. Thank god you said the ibos YOU KNOW and what about other tribes like Efik,Ibibio,hausa,itsekiri etc. I don't know where you live but generally, the yorubas are higher in population than Ibos in the UK(London and Liverpool to be precise), so, you should have more kids speaking my mother tongue than the ibo kids but the vice versa is the case here(seems my people no really like hanging out here) . I've lived in Nebraska, Buffalo,Pittsburgh and Germantown and I can tell you categorically that ibos outnumber yorubas in those towns but you'll not know unless you come out from your own clique. same I heard in Chicago, Houston,Dallas and LA. So, will you conclude that ibos speak more of their mother tongues in these states i mentioned because of their diverse population?

take your kids back home. Let them learn their father's language.

Good; Not only their language but the culture and general responsibility.

[b]What in the event your spouse isnt Nigeria[/b]n? Would your kids then be forced to learn your language? Just a hypothetical question i was wondering about.

That's a big problem and the issue of taking them back home or even teaching them your culture may be out of the question. Although, children born by interethnic couples like ibo+yoruba end up speaking their mother's tongue if they live in a [b]neutral [/b]environment.

Yes, Yes and Yes. If I have my way, husbands should also be allowed to carry the pregnancy for a minimum of 5 months.

Um if anything Yoruba children are MORE likely to still speak their language aboard than any other tribe.

Also there's quite a surge of Yourba/Igbo intertribal marriages esp aboard so im confused

Am not even talking about marriage. I'm talking about the general behavioral characteristics of these kids. Mind you other tribes like Ibo, Benin etc are involved but I'm just looking out for my own(they should take care of their own problem). Most of these kids are very unruly and disrespectful. You and I know that in yorubaland, even if an elder offends you, he/she is not expected to apologize to you, rather, it's you that will prostrate and apologize for being offended. Our ancestors knew why they made it that way because they were very very smart, it gives kids a sense of respect and honor and everything in life sorrrounds around it. Most parents living out here fixated their minds on dollar so much that they've forgotten their primary responsibility. My happiness is that this generation here is not even 1/40 of the yoruba generation at home doing their thing.

Um if anything Yoruba children are MORE likely to still speak their language aboard than any other tribe.

Again, how did you arrive at this statistics? The only factual tale here is , some yoruba kids born abroad speak their mother tongue just like some Benin kids or hausa kids or ibo kids(putting their population ratio into perspective). You cannot claim that ibo kids born here speak their language more than Benin kids because their population ratio are not the same besides, an ibo person knows more ibo people than other tribes. Same goes for other tribes. So the issue is not how many that speak because it cannot be ascertained but how can you alleviate the issue of the non speakers and make them identify with you the more.

Dangote > sniffers > obligation. . . Huh Huh still can't put it 2gether. Mayb mo like

Kano first lady > sniffers > pet project: rehabilitation centre >

Roflmaao

Oh no! lol. Corny and irritating!

I think it's Grissom that's irritating. CSI Miami has a "sexier" cast than CSI Vegas and their fiction looks more real than Vegas that can raise the dead.

My greatest Nigeria soccer star goes to KANU. He has performed what several other Nigerian players cannot do.

Performed? Most awards are not a measure of your performance.

Dearest yoruba brothers and sisters, what happened to our children and future generation born and bred abroad? They are unruly, disrespectful and very wild. Those qualities are never seen in Yoruba culture and are detested to the highest order. Can we make suggestions here on how to solve these problems starting from tutoring their parents/parent.

My suggestions are:

1) If you live abroad, reduce your bills to a considerate level and make out more time to stay with your kids while speaking YORUBA to them at home. They'll always speak "phone" english as long as they live and school in America.


2) If you are divorced or a single mother, please try as much as possible to send your SON/S home to do their high school education, that way they'll learn some respect especially how to respect women.

3)Liase them with every Yoruba social/cultural group around you to help them know each other. Ibo people do that a lot, that's why they marry each other more here. You cannot operate easily without your people, the Asian will always resort to marry fellow Asian, same with latino, white, carribean etc and they always leave their chaff for you to take.

4) Yoruba groups/socialites, make sure you make your various meetings, parties etc attrtactive enough so these kids can look up to you . All the bickering and fighting should be put aside in their presence.

its obvious the boy feels these people are invading his space,you know he has been his mum's favourite man for a long time from what i read of your post he is an only son that equates to not sharing his mum with any man at all,also the boy is being rebellious because he s crying for attention,any boyfriend the woman hooks up with has to give the boy his full attention at the expense of the woman for the first couple of months,know the boy's interests,if he likes football take him out to play football,if he likes games,play games with him,go out to do the fun things he likes with hime.t.c once he can crack the boy's defence,he will gain his respect.

, make the boy feel like he is the focal point and also the man must have a private talk with him that he is not replacing his dad but loves the mum and will treat both of them nice(something we naija dnt do,once the woman says yes,we don't care about the childs feelings) after he gets used to the man trust me the man can be firm and disciplined with him because he wil grow to respect the man by then,he knows the man cares about him and will see him as a positive role model and father figure, i can bet you all these other fiances will prolly try to bribe the boy with money and material stuffs without taking time out to take him out,do the stuffs he likes and most important give him enough attention which is the main cause of the rebellion,no child is born evil theres always a reason it nly takes uderstanding them

It's obvious that sons need their fathers to come out right in most cases. I can't imagine my younger brothers calling my mother a bitch. What is happening to the new generation of yoruba children born and bred abroad? It's against the yoruba culture to curse an elder how much less your own mother.

@another point, Funmi, whass up with these topics you conjure up, what's all these stuffs about men and emotional bearings. Is this some sort of sensitivity training for our ego??

How else can you pamper their already flawed machismo?

Quite frankly i couldn't care less if i came 1st 2nd or third.Believe even if u rise to become numero uno,she'll still turn around to pick no. 2.So as long as i can gain acess to the power house i'm contented.You know what they say-live & let live.

You are obviously not ready for a relationship yet. Life does not begin and end in a woman's booty.

Is infantry related to infants or soldiers?

The victim wrote;
NEW STRATEGY OF SCAMMERS


My name is Professor Moruf Adelekan. On 3 June 2008, I received an email in my hotmail address asking me to reconfirm my account or risk it being deleted. The mail stated that 'hotmail' is experiencing congestion problem, and would delete all accounts not reconfirmed within 48 hours or so. This 'hotmail' alert mail looked quite genuine as it had the MSN logo etc. Believing this mail was genuine, I responded by supplying all the required details including my password. On 4 June 2008, I was alerted by friends all over the globe that they have received an e-mail purportedly signed in my name stating that I have been stranded in Malaysia and asking people to send money to me via Western Union .



As I used the same password for my yahoo account, the scammers also gained access into my yahoo account and sent a similar mail to many people on the contact list. The fraudsters changed the passwords in both accounts and completely denied me access to the accounts. I could therefore only send out a disclaimer to a small number of contacts who I could remember and reach by phone or through other means.

The amount of damage that the scammers have done and could do in the short and long term could only best be imagined.

First, the scammers have sent the hoax mail to so many people all over the globe, including my several contacts during my stint in the United Nations. Many of the latter I have not communicated with for years. The mail has also gone to many professional colleagues. Thanks to those of you who could contact me one way or the other to check what has happened. However, many do not even know where I work at the moment and I only hope they have not fallen prey to the antics of the scammers. My Medical Director here in the UK received his own copy of the e-mail while attending a conference in the USA . He quickly left the conference room and sent a message to his secretary to contact me before getting the money across to me. Of course, I was sitting in my office when the MD's secretary contacted my own secretary.



Secondly, I have many sensitive documents in the two accounts that have been compromised. I have therefore alerted my professional colleagues and bodies, business concerns, local and international law enforcement agencies about this scam to pre-empt and avert (as much as possible) any illegal use of these documents.

Thirdly, this scam has put me and my family under intense stress since 4 June 2008. In the days following the scam, we had to respond to telephone calls from concerned colleagues and friends from all continents 24 hours of the day.

Further the whole episode has been like 'robbery without a gun' with these scammers gaining full access to documents I had always thought were 'reservedly mine and confidential'. There is also the fear of the unknown with regard to what illegal use these scammers could make of the documents. Finally, it is psychologically depressing and distracting when you have several work time lines to meet.

What measures have I taken? I reported the incident to yahoo and hotmail within 24 hours of its occurrence. I received automated messages from both organizations stating that some action would be taken. However, up till now, only hotmail has asked me to formally lodge a complaint to them through my Solicitor. I am currently working on the latter.

Following some advice I received from an IT expert, I was able use the 'forgot your password' prompt on my old yahoo address, answered the security questions and reset my password. Hence, I have regained full access to
my old yahoo address although I do not intend to use the compromised address any longer. As hitherto stated, I have alerted relevant individuals and organizations on the security aspects of the scam.

Lessons to learn

1. Never fall into the same trap I fell into. Never respond to any mail requesting that you reconfirm your yahoo and hotmail account under whatever pretext, particularly where you are requested to supply your password.

2. Please realize that the scammers are becoming more desperate by the day and do not care in the least about the possible multiple psychological, social and economic consequences of their action. Hence, we should be sensitive to any other tricks they may come up with.



A British MP Sarah McCarthy-Fry also became a victim to a similar scam method last week (see BBC News http://news.bbc.co.uk http://news.bbc.co.uk/ of 19 June 2008).

3. Do not keep or save sensitive files and documents on your yahoo, hotmail or similar accounts. They are no longer as safe as we had always thought they were. The experts advise that such documents should be kept in our hard disks and essentially should be password-protected.
Some people have even suggested that yahoo and hotmail should no longer be used for serious business and we should instead subscribe to less-popularized and less at-risk e-mail providers. A serious food for thought, I would think.

4. Please read more about steps to take to avoid becoming a victim to this scam technique called phishing in the security sections of yahoo or hotmail.

5. Remember this is a clear case of prevention being better than cure. If you fall a victim, you are completely on your own struggling to cope to with the multiple adverse effects, including contracting a solicitor to fight your case for you. My experience is that yahoo and hotmail as organizations are very slow in responding, if they do at all.They would also not take any immediate action to close down the affected account due to privacy rights of their subscribers, among other possible reasons.

6. Please circulate this write-up widely to your family, friends and colleagues in order to raise awareness and prevent more people falling victim to this scamming technique,

Conclusion: E-mail scamming is taking a frighteningly dangerous dimension as scammers now use the more invasive method called phishing, which exposes their victim to serious consequences as highlighted in this piece. Those of us whose daily business hinge squarely on the e-mail system need to be fully aware of this and other newly emerging scamming methods. We should alert one another and work with relevant organizations including law enforcement agencies to stop the scammers in their track. We should take all precautions to avoid becoming a victim to what I have described as 'robbery without a gun'. Thank God, I am not aware that any of my contacts has sent any money to the scammers but this does not make the possible short and long-term impacts any less damaging. I thank you all for your support during this trying period.

Professor Moruf Adelekan
Blackburn, UK
22 June 2008

I think nna is ikwere~ibo while "na" is ibo. Like ikena, obina but ikwere ibo is ikenna and obinna.

What is the difference between oji and orji? Ngozi and Ngozie?

If I say yes to a guy, let him keep wandering his eyes o, [size=14pt]just don't wonder why sango used his eyes as a button[/size]. nonsense!

ROFLMAO!


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What do you mean? How can he not know he's keeping a girl on the standby?

he/she meant it's not cheating if the guy/babe is aware he/she is on reserved list.

she has spoilt the boy rotten all through the formative years so its getting a bit too late now,tell your friend to deport the boy to his dad's or have a male positive role model who will discipline and mentor him,someone that understnds youngsters but firm n disciplined or else the boy is on his way to join the wha wha in south east london

There is a little power scuffle between his mother and his father, that's why his dad is out of the picture and the boy will not listen to any of her boyfriends that wants to act like his dad. He's fought some of them before and threatened to burn down their car if he sees them around their house. Will you agree to tutor a boy like this if you are just dating his mother? His mom lost her fiancee because the guy was scared her son will be a stumbling block to his happiness and she told him that if he loves her enough, he should be ready to carry that cross but ijesha man ran away.

Not every movie made in America is tied to Hollywood. That being said, if the said producer is professional herself, she shouldn't be going around websites talking rubbish. this sounds more like a vendetta because they started posting stories on the internet over this issue before Genevieve addressed the issue. If you fire someone like they claimed, it's the person you fired that should be angry and going around spoiling your name and not you that is his/her employer.

I won't even be your number one, let alone standby Gen.

Okayoooo, na you dey take your hand relegate yourself to division II boyfriend.

I don't think it's such a bad idea, really, to have potential romantic partners you're just friends with

Yes; Females can manage that but it's kind of tricky for men because they'll always want to try out that friendship in the bedroom.

So u missed me?? Tongue

Yes i do, I'm considering making you my stand by Gen.

. . .There r 6 alternatives waiting around the corner

Who are these alternatives knocking on your door sef? Are you Celestine Babayaro?

So do you have standby generators?

"Better be stupid than a cheat"_ Dr David Dylan

any man who decides to remain a stanby generator has a lot of mental issues in this days of young billionaires someone wants to die for a girl! as a stanby gen

What will you do as a man if you find out that you've been "muguud" by a girl you love so much? Love is a different entity you know, it hurts and falls in the category of things you can barely control. Why do guys take some girls that has muguud them before back?

@ DeepZone,

Standby Generator me toe!!!!

I won't play 2nd fiddle to any guy when it comes to chics.
There are plenty pebbles on the beach. I don't share skirts!!!

Hannibobo!!! Long time no see?

The truth is that most of you guys play 2nd fiddle without knowing it. Guys pride themselves to the fact that they are always on top of their game without knowing that the underdogs(chics) actually control the cruise.


Tip: reduce your ego, listen like a hedgehog and you'll always catch women whenever they want to play funny game with you. Girls, forgive me for sharing this secret.

So you are the Court of Law? Grin Cheesy Grin Give me a bible to make me swear

I wouldn't do that unless I want you to die

very true. just look at Adam and Eve.

Adam is even smarter than most guys walking around today. Look at Samson and Delilah, Abacha and virgins, Clinton and Lewinsky etc.

Stupid with my present relationship? NAH. . . . I am way above all that mushy mushy fever emotions women successfully play on MEN. Yeah everyone is prone to emotional stupidity, but it takes guts and wits to handle what should be handled

Are you swearing under oath that you've not lost money to a woman that never loved you in the first place? i mean, are you swearing under oath in the court of law(Federal govt of Nigeria) that you've not been suckered by a woman before?

I think she needs a man to be keeping her busy. This is misplaced sexual energy that she has channelled towards starting topics on Nairaland

Everything about you is sex sex sex. Who knows how many times you've been fired from work for sexual harassment?