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plaetton:
Let me give you an example.

Math tests, standard math tests are usually used to test or measure intelligence.
People good in math are usually labeled "intelligent' , while people who are very poor in math are usually labeled dumb or OLODO(apologies to Deepsight).
Now, as a result , many potentially bright young people give up on themselves and future possibilities very early in their youth because of their poor math skills.

But even with this poor Maths teachers people still pass right? The maths teacher asks a question and people still answer right but wait there is a guy at the back who seems not to be getting anything from what the teacher is saying. that's what am talking about of course this guy can improve his maths skills like me, for example, i would not understand some topic except you break it down very well for me or use real world examples to explain. so the point would be why do those people understand the poor maths teacher and the guy at the backs is finding it hard to understand?

plaetton:
Have you heard of Neural Plasticity ?
In layman's terms, " practice makes perfect ".

This simply means that if you practice anything , any Skill long enough, you will gradually improve your ability, become good at it, and able to completely master or a genius at it, any Skill at all.

In other words, every one is inbued with unlimited intelligence, and under the right enabling environment, the brain or mind is naturally malleable enough to exponentially increase in intelligence or stagnate.

I made this similar argument earlier in the week in another thread, that our natural habitats in subsahara Africa, with our tropical vegetation and age old cultural norms had always been impediments to the growth and nurturing of Natural Curiosity and Intellectualism, and hence, our shortcomings in literary works, architecture and scientific achievements.

you guys are not getting me yes everyone is equipped with unlimited intelligence am not arguing that my point is the amount of time it would take Mr. A to understand something Mr. B might take just a tiny seconds to understand it.That's the intelligence am talking about, That is not something you practice and get perfect in.

Iamdmentor1:
He is a God of consuming fire. You would be dead for what you just posted had Jesus Christ not come to earth to die for us. Jesus is the one who keeps advocating for us that's why there's grace and not immediate judgment.

This explains why Yahweh also loves suya
https://www.nairaland.com/2619198/suya-loving-god-bible

Moses advocated for the children of Israel, and God listened. Now Jesus is advocating for us. But you should be careful, that you wouldn't die before accepting Jesus Christ. Tomorrow might be late!

Maybe you should, first of all, prove that "Jesus christ" existed historically then I might decide to consider your offer

Golden Rule
The Golden Rule or law of reciprocity is the principle of treating others as one would wish to be treated. It is a maxim of altruism seen in many human religions and human cultures. The maxim may appear as either a positive or negative injunction governing conduct:

One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself (positive or directive form).
One should not treat others in ways that one would not like to be treated (negative or prohibitive form).
What you wish upon others, you wish upon yourself (empathic or responsive form)

This teaching is not only synonymous to Christianity

Ancient Egypt
Possibly the earliest affirmation of the maxim of reciprocity, reflecting the ancient Egyptian goddess Ma'at, appears in the story of The Eloquent Peasant, which dates to the Middle Kingdom (c. 2040 – c. 1650 BC): "Now this is the command: Do to the doer to make him do." This proverb embodies the do ut des principle. A Late Period (c. 664 BC – 323 BC) papyrus contains an early negative affirmation of the Golden Rule: "That which you hate to be done to you, do not do to another."

Ancient China
The Golden Rule existed among all the major philosophical schools of ancient China: Mohism, Taoism, and Confucianism. Examples of the concept include:
"Never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself." — Confucius (c. 500 BC)
"If people regarded other people's families in the same way that they regard their own, who then would incite their own family to attack that of another? For one would do for others as one would do for oneself." — Mozi (c. 400 BC)
"Regard your neighbor's gain as your own gain and your neighbor's loss as your own loss." — Laozi (c. 500 BC)

Ancient India
Sanskrit tradition
In Mahābhārata, the ancient epic of India, there is a discourse in which the wise minister Vidura advises the King Yuddhiśhṭhira
Listening to wise scriptures, austerity, sacrifice, respectful faith, social welfare, forgiveness, purity of intent, compassion, truth and self-control are the ten wealth of character (self). O king aim for these, may you be steadfast in these qualities. These are the basis of prosperity and rightful living. These are highest attainable things. All worlds are balanced on dharma, dharma encompasses ways to prosperity as well. O King, dharma is the best quality to have, wealth the medium and desire (kāma) the lowest. Hence, (keeping these in mind), by self-control and by making dharma (right conduct) your main focus, treat others as you treat yourself.
— Mahābhārata Shānti-Parva 167:9

Rilwayne001:
Christianity = Hypocrisy

Shut up, pot calling kettle black

femi4:
you are not communicating

You are not understanding

femi4:
Moses is his friend and he revealed his intention to him

Ah so yahweh was an Alien?

aishatu19:
That passage demonstrates God's mercy. It strengthens our faith that intercession can change our fate to bring about divine grace.

So a "God" can get angry because of mere humans?

femi4:
Yaweh asked for 5 righteous people but couldn't get.

This is about Moses and not Sodom

mykel25:
Do u mean God doesn't exist cuz God is Yahweh

God is zeus also

malvisguy212:
if you are 100% sure, then it mean you have evidence , God does not exist, can I see it ?

where did you see me say/write God doesn't exist?

malvisguy212:
I just encourage you to stay alive and don't die, so why are full of anger ? are you afraid to die and face the reality ? I really admire your faith, you are strong, very strong indeed. are you so sure that God does not exist ?

I am 100% sure that Yahweh doesnt exist

malvisguy212:
you still have a long way to go, I pray you stay alive, dont die pleas.

Are you thinking of murder? people like you are those who kill themselves cause of their frustrated lives

In Islam, I get to get 72virgins when I die but in Christianity, its just bordomness till people riot and run away from there...

Yahweh has a bad temper he needs mortal to calm him down

Akiintom:
INTELLIGENCE
Intelligence has been defined in many different ways including as one's capacity for logic, understanding , self-awareness , learning , emotional knowledge , planning ,
creativity , and problem solving . It can be more generally described as the ability to perceive information, and to retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment or context.

- Wikipedia

Based on the above definition, intelligence can be increased.

@bolded shows that there is a limit depending on the individual

Not "seem", it can be objectively established. Knowledge is a component of intelligence, and not intelligence itself.

IQ test is an objective means of ranking intelligence. And it's realistically valid.

A person that is intelligent might not necessarily be knowledgeable

No, IQ has a more grand assessment function than your description. Pls check it out.

i meant to say intelligence sorry

akintom:
* Yes, intelligence is a biological concept, and is relative in humans.

*intelligence can be increased and decreased, via negative and positive neuro-conditioning cues.

E.g- tell a normal child at iq score of 50, that a test shows that he has the best mental ability in the class. But it will show in his results, if he practices X, Y and Z (positive cues). If this child believes this, it has been confirmed that the child's iq score will increase.

No i don't think intelligence can be increased it can only be worked upon so the person might seem more knowledgeable but this doesn't mean the IQ increased or anything. and by the way intelligence by IQ is how fast someone can understand something and then retain the information.

Droldnallufepoh:
Doctoralien should be very grateful to his goons cuz he's been spouting nonsense on this thread till his cohorts came and gave him a reason to ignore my posts, I'm pretty sure he's learned a lot from this thread and would not make the idiotic claim he made on this thread, claims like

"Big bang is an explosion"

"Big Bang is an atheistic claim"

"anyone who doesn't take literal parts of the bible he (DoctorAilen) takes literally is a "god hater" hereby implying Kingebukasblog is a god hater"

he was trolling he knows it's not an explosion but he goes on to say it anyways thats what most of this religious folks do this day you can ask their master princesebuka he knows more about it so next time just ignore....

Intelligence is a biological factor I don't see any reason why an atheist should be more intelligent than a religious person be it a Christian or a Muslim or a budhist

What do your friends know about buddha that they are mocking or Abi are you not a Nigerian? as to answer your questions I won't be so sure but my best friend who is a deeper life member I was scared I was going to loose her but she stayed we are still best friends though she always use to preach for me. I think the key is learning to respect once belief irrespective of if it opposes yours

OtemAtum:
It's 100% well said. @OP Oloruntobi4382, are you once a Christian? Have you ever shouted JESUS in your dream to chase the supposed enemies away? Yes, all those things were also made for you by your brain, but the religious people call them spirituality. As your beliefs and your view of life changes, your experiences and dreams have to change with it. The lady teaching you astral projection in your dream is not real but a product of hallucination just as said by HopefulLandlord here. Read the story below for more:

The first time I had sleep paralysis I was shouting Jesus and after some sec, it stopped then I didn't even know what sleep paralysis was, So i went on net and did some research and saw some scientific site and I also came across some religious site also but since the scientific site was so convincing o course it would because they explained the phenomena in a way that even a kid would understand that immediately removed fear from my heart. These days I do get sleep paralysis and its not even scary anymore I guess knowledge is power if you understand something there is no need for fear its like understand how a magic trick is being done then it doesn't get exciting again

It's funny how the same book you quote from has a lot of lies in it

Basically, if Jesus actually existed he would probably be a little bit dark in complexion and according to Christian Jesus is one with Yahweh Abi? the image might be a reflection of Yahweh in human form

Christianity vs science or Religion vs science? is it only Christians that believe in God?

Baddchristy:
I know it's not possible but it is something I would love to try but since I am not dying anytime soon so it has to wait

How are you sure of this?

Nawa o everybody don day get degree for medicine

Baddchristy:
I will definitely have sex because I must try it before kicking the bucket
Skydiving, watch a live orchestra
Meet T and make him promise to be at the burial thing

skydiving for 9ja

All because of the 72virgins

I saw this on a blog and decided to share it here it talks about the different stages of Atheism............

Level 1 – Divinity

Do you believe in god(s)? Forget the Dawkins scale, it’s a simple question, if you can’t answer it “no” then you’re not an atheist, and you don’t need to go any further on this list. If you think there might be god(s), or haven’t made up your mind, then you can call yourself something other than an atheist. Gods are not necessarily all powerful, but they are supernatural beings with independent or self-determined causation and determinism – meaning that they can make their own decisions, and are not required to act in any certain way, nor can they be controlled by humans. Humans can appeal to them, worship them, ignore them, placate them, or trade with them giving gifts or offerings in exchange for material or spiritual benefits. They can be all powerful, or even just mildly more potent than humans in certain things. Also, not all of them are immortal.

Level 2 – Spirituality

Do you believe in angels, human spirits, souls, ghosts, poltergeists, jinn, nature spirits, demons, possession, astral projections, etc.? Basically, this level covers everything that exists in what is usually called the supernatural, which is simply anything not proven to exist. Frankly, if you can’t put it in a zoo, but you still believe it exists, then you don’t make it to this level. It never fails to surprise me how many atheists I meet who believe in ghosts, souls, and other oddities. It’s like Arthur Conan Doyle writing about the clear thinking Sherlock Holmes, while at the same time being immersed in spiritualism and a belief in fairies. These things are no different than gods, except that people usually ascribe a natural causation for them. I heard someone once claiming that they were spawned by the Earth’s natural background radiation level, or even cosmic rays. A claim to being part of our normal world, and evolving within it, but being ephemeral or unknowable, somehow makes it better? How many times have I heard that souls and ghosts are a natural result of our human consciousness created by our brains? Look, if it stores information, it has to be a form of the physical construct, unless all our physics is rubbish, so it could be found – but it hasn’t been, and won’t be until the Standard Model has been overthrown.

Level 3 - Superstition

Superstition covers all manner of unconscious but still supernatural actions and reactions, like lucky charms (such as Buddha charms, rabbit feet, or Japanese Omamori), unlucky numbers (like 13 in the Christian West, or in cultures influenced by China), unlucky activities (walking under a ladder or breaking a mirror in the West), lucky activities (like crawling through a temple pillar hole, kissing the Blarney stone, or crawling under a temple floor), unlucky occurrences (like having a black cat cross your path), unlucky colors (wearing funeral white in the East, or the wrong color on certain days in Thailand – which is why so many people drive silver, white or black cars to avoid being in a wrong color car on the wrong day), etc. All these things could be tested and statistically proven to be no more or no worse than any other occurrence. They are considered to be unconscious agents of supernatural impact, delivering “luck” or “misfortune” according to their nature. Sometimes, the impact can be mitigated, misdirected, or amplified, depending on the action of the affected party.

Some people would put things like homeopathy, astrology, acupuncture, traditional medicines, osteopathy, chiropractors, fortune telling, and tarot reading all into this category as well. (Faith healing and exorcism are in Level 1 or 2, as that relies on the intervention of a third party supernatural being to affect the cure.) Now, all the foregoing have some placebo level of success, and there are a few cases where the treatment is indeed marginally beneficial towards the ailment. But for all their broad claims, they are unsubstantiated for the most part and any confidence in their efficacy is no different than the blind faith in a charm, talisman, or fortune teller.

Level 4 - Quantum-something

Quantum mechanics is somewhat mind-bending in its implications, as they are so far afield from our conscious understanding of our world. But quantum mechanics is fundamentally a part of physics derived from a series of core mathematical formulas. It’s not metaphysics, nor is it in any way philosophical. There are a number of ways in which certain experimental results can be “explained” or interpreted in language other than the language of mathematics, but the “true” explanation is always the mathematical one.

Most people who ascribe extra-natural events to this source usually do so on a totally different basis than how physics is actually practiced. Yes, there are theoreticians who ponder the existence of multiple universes or realities which “collapse” into the current reality once a triggering “observation” has occurred, but these do not manifest themselves on any level that a human being unaided by technology could ever encounter. Over the years, I’ve seen virtually everything ascribed to some utterly unsupported “quantum” effect, like pyramid power, enhanced cognitive skills, influences on future events, personal auras, enhancing “luck” of some form or another (although it’s usually couched in the language of probabilities), and so forth. Some of them sound like a fantasy world created by Roger Zelazny, known as the Amber Chronicles, where certain beings can collapse different states of potentiality into “reality”.

Often, these complex concepts from physics are mixed with notions of consciousness. The only thing worse than mischaracterizing one field of science is to combine it with another mischaracterized area, in say biology or psychiatry (which some people might partially put into Level Three with good reason, since there is still no physical test for almost all psychiatric conditions diagnosed by physicians). Deepak Chopra’s works, which frankly I’ve found unreadable, but which are wildly popular, fall squarely into this category of pretentious quasi-science quackery.

There are some interesting books out there by reputable physicists which do raise some of these issues, but none of them is in the form of a self-help book. There are no formulas for how to collapse a meaningful waveform (that was what Schrodinger’s famous cat6 was all about) in real life. And the toxic mix of physics and metaphysics is about as useful as contemplating the number of angels who can dance on the head of a pin. When someone comes up with a mathematical formula which you can use to change your circumstances, get a good night’s sleep, or change your mental attitude, then it’s real science – but not before.

Level 5 - The Force

This is the most frustrating one to encounter. It’s the belief in “something” or in Spinoza’s “nature” god. Perhaps it’s gained popularity from the “Star Wars” series, and people just like the idea of all life being connected, in a sort of “feel-good-about-nature” and “have-wild-sex-with-the-blue-sexy-natives” “Avatar” (the movie) sense. (Just on a personal note, I really hate movies where lower tech societies defeat high tech ones – maybe it makes people feel good at some level, but then so does Santa Claus.)

In any event, it’s still a belief in something utterly unsubstantiated, no matter how “at one” you feel with life and the universe when you’re feeding the squirrels in the park. No, it’s not an anthropomorphic or personified “god”, and yes it’s sort of like the Hindu concept of Brahman, or Nirvana in some Buddhist doctrines, but that is not exactly an endorsement. Having compassion for all other life is indeed laudable, but you don’t need to go the extra step to justify this conviction by imbibing some cosmic intoxicant. And no, there is no “quantum consciousness” (see Level 4 above).

Level 6 – None of the Above

You’re totally free of any supernatural or unquantifiable beliefs about causation in your personal universe. Your morality is consistent with your own personal philosophy, and you don’t carry good luck charms, except for sentimental value. Congratulations.

So, where do you stand on the Atheist scale? No gods, but ghosts? No soul but good old Mother Nature? Being an atheist is just one step on the road to adopting a questioning attitude towards life. For a great many of the questions that humans crave answers for, there are no objective answers. Sometimes you have to be brave enough to walk in the darkness, knowing that you don’t know what’s there, as opposed to walking in with your imaginary friend or lucky talisman.

Ok so now what is the purpose of this thread? I didn't look at the other thread so I don't really know what went on in there can anyone be kind enough to geist me?

CatfishBilly:
Fuckkking hilarious

It's just a fun Thread