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urahara:
And u know alk this because.........

urahara:

What logical reasoning

Oga, did you read this thread from page one? I doubt it because if you did you wouldn't be asking me this questions.

There was heavy presence of security
operatives at Baptist Girls High School
in Osogbo where the secretariat of the
Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN)
was located ahead of the joint prayer
session organised by the body in the
state.

The crisis trailing the court judgment,
which permits the use of hijab by
Muslim female students in Osun State
public schools, might not end soon.
Osun State chapter of CAN has said it
would not rescind its directive to its
pupils to be wearing choir robes and
church garments to schools, if the
judgment is implemented.

Pastor Moses Ogundeji, Vice Chairman
of CAN in the state, stated this while
addressing journalists at a prayer
session held at the Dominion Hall of
Osun Baptist Conference, Gbodofon,
Osogbo, the state capital.
The prayer which was organised by
Reverend Dr. Elisha Ogundiya, the
state CAN chairman, and presided over
by his vice, Pastor Moses Adedeji
Ogundeji, said that the prayer is
meant to reject court ruling on hijab
and other islamisation plot in the
state.

He added that the prayer is also
meant to seek peace from God and to
nullify anti-kingdom laws and dealings
with satanic forces that are
tormenting the state for the past few
weeks.

The Christian leader who also called
for the return of mission schools to
the original owners said, “We don’t
want crisis in Osun because of hijab
issue. Already, the state is being
oppressed by the demonic spirit and
evils as well as the country at large.”
He contended that inasmuch as we
are trying to resolve the crisis with
prayer, if Government should expel any
Christian pupil or student, it means all
the students in public schools would be sent packing.

Pastor Ogundeji, however, noted that
the prayer would ensure that the
Osun State is delivered from the
power of satanic forces and
oppressors, adding that all powers
that set to destroy Osun State would
be destroyed by God.
“The country has no rest from the
hands of Boko Haram, Niger Delta
Avengers and Bororo herdsmen.
Therefore let there be peace in Osun
and let the state be free from the
shackles of evil and oppression,” he
said.

However, the CAN vice chairman
described the presence of security
personnel around the prayer venue as
an embarrassment.
Pastor Ogundeji said although, the
judgment would be appealed, Christian
pupils would continue to wear church
clothes to their various schools, not
minding the state governor’s warning
to expel them.

Governor Rauf Aregbesola had on
Wednesday warned that any student
found wearing unauthorised cloth to
school would be sanctioned, advising
CAN to pursue its cause legally.
Elsewhere in the state, it took the
intervention of the Oluwo Iwo, Oba
Abdul Rasheed Akanbi to avert crisis
when CAN mobilised its members to
Baptist High School, Adeeke Iwo, to
ensure Christian pupils in garments
and robes were not denied entrance, by security operatives who besieged the school.

Source: http://independentnig.com/2016/06/16/osun-hijab-crisis-security-beef-up-at-baptist-girls-high-school/

cloudgoddess:
Side note before I begin my explanation:
Abiogenesis and evolution are two seperate studies. The basic mechanisms behind evolution have been proven beyond reasonable doubt. We know that evolution is the process that's been driving the diversification of life on earth, since the first life forms appeared.

Abiogenesis, which tells us how those first life forms got started in the first place, is still in the works. But regardless of whether or not one accepts abiogenesis, that still does not leave room for a deity who poofed every animal onto earth in their present forms. We know that is impossible because of evolution alone.

So, now for my answer:
For us to recreate abiogenesis as it occured on earth ~3.5 billion years ago, we would both have to know exactly what conditions were present during the emergence of the very first self-replicating molecules (which were far simpler than any modern cell, likely a short strand of RNA with a lipid coat), and then be able to manipulate those conditions in a lab setting.

We have made partial progress on those two steps.

We currently know some of the conditions that were implicit in the formation of life. We know that first, the earth had to cool; in it's beginnings Earth was a harsh, blazing hot ball made from the same nebula that formed the sun, completely hostile and unstable for the delicate chemical reactions required for self-replicating molecules to form.

Then an atmosphere had to form. Current evidence says early earth's atmosphere most likely contained carbon dioxide, ammonia, and methane, and little to no oxygen in it's first stages. Lightening storms and volcanic activity were commonplace.

The results of the Miller Urey experiment, conducted in 1950's gave us good evidence that the molecules that act as the building blocks of life (amino acids & nucleotides), could have formed spontaneously on primitive earth, by the interaction of lightening with it's CO2, methane, & ammonia-rich atmosphere, and hot water (from deep sea hydrothermal vents).

https://www.mhhe.com/biosci/genbio/enger/student/olc/art_quizzes/genbiomedia/0049.jpg

This experiment produced over 20 kinds of amino acids, and has been reconducted several times since it's initial run, consistently producing amino acids of varying quantities.

As I said, research on abiogenesis is still being conducted, and just like everything science has ever discovered, it will take time to get to the point of being able to recreate life "from scratch" ourselves, if such a thing would even be desireable (for example, why start from scratch when we can already copy and edit the DNA of pre-existing organisms? it's like typing a message over and over from the beginning instead of just copying and pasting.)

But slowly we're discovering more and more, and the evidence continues to coincinde with natural physical, chemical laws we are familiar with. In other words, there is still no sign of the formation of the first cells, or the organic materials leading up to them, having been a supernatural event.

Firstly you don't have to begin by telling me that Abiogenenis and evolution are two different things that wasn't the question i asked you. I'm also a science student and i make research a lot too. I already knew about all the stuffs you wrote up there.

I intentionally asked that question because the last time I checked, that question has not been answered by scientists.
And for the theory of evolution that you so much believe in, have you read the book on "darwin's doubt"? If No try to get it and read it.

There are many molecular biologists, physicists and astronomers who have come to the realization that God truly exists. And this are even the practicing ones not ordinary Atheists like you that just read theories and use your logical reasoning to question the deep mysteries in life.

sirthisthickkal:
don't jeopardize your sleep for some group of atheist who have nothing to offer.

Don't mind them. They think we can't reason out of the box, now i have decided to tackle them with science and logical reasoning. I have read of many seasoned astronomers, molecular biologists, physicists etc that have come to the realization that God truly exists.

@ donnffd and other atheist, answer this question below..

I know you believe that life originated by chance, meaning the occurrence of random events bringing non living matter together to form life? If it's as easy as this then why as any scientist not been able to recreate this in the lab? Why is it that it's only life that begets life? Even in cloning, a living cell is required.

*I doubt if anyone of you will be able to give a reasonable answer to that question.*

BeastAmbition:
Please Grow Up Man And Stop Being A Disgrace To Your Pop

True talk, he really needs to grow up.

donnffd:
Ofcourse, but why do you ascertain that God is real when you acknowledge we are currently unable to proof it?

I was making a generalization, and you singled out "God" there are many things that your human senses cannot detect but they exist. For example radio waves. there are thousands inshort millions of radio waves around us, but tell me can any of your sense organs perceive it? NO. Although we have devices to detect them. But has anyone seen how it looks? We can only describe it in terms of its amplitude, frequency, wavelength e.t.c.

Now imagine someone arguing blindly that since his/her sense organs cannot perceive the existence of radio wave that it doesn't exist even though it's clearly evident that it's what his/her phone is communicating with.

donnffd:
No, i am not a physics student sorry to dissapoint...

Now there really could be a God who is timeless if anything like that exists.
My main point was there was no way for you to know for certain because you are bound by space and time, and anything that exists outside it is unknowable because you cant leave space and time to get the knowlge of timeless and spaceless entity

Being unable to proof the existence of something doesn't mean such a thing doesn't exist. It's dependent on our present level of scientific methods and technology. And besides, there are so many mysteries in the world and universe at large that scientists will not be able to unravel everything till the end of time. As long as the word "infinity" exits there will still be something unknown.

donnffd:
Yea, thank you for reasoning out of the box and keeping this discuss intelligent...

You said logical explanation, well it does sound logical i suppose but its logical doesnt mean its a FACT, it just keeps it as an hypothesis along side the multiverse hypothesis and the likes...so an hypothesis cant be proof of a creator, am sure you would agree!

Considering the last question u asked about how i knew God is not bound by space and time.
Now I assume you must be a physics student., what can you tell me about "timelessness" in physics?

donnffd:
I understand your point, what i am asking is how did you come about this knowledge of a God outside space and time when we are all bound to it and cant leave it?

As a scenerio, its like a man born blind explaining how red is...how does he know when he has never seen anything before in his life?

It's a logical explanation from Bible scholars who are also seasoned physicist. I don't want to quote Bible verses since most of u Atheists are doubting the credibility of its contents. And I also want to show you that it's not all Christians that can't or won't reason out of the box as u have tagged us.

donnffd:
If we are operating in a system governed by space and time, and we cant leave it...then tell me, how do you know that God is outside space and time(when obviously you havent been outside it yourself)?

Bro, it's the illusion of Time that is causing all this argument. i hope you know there are certain drugs that can alter someone's sense of time?

donnffd:
what caused God to exist?

Answering that question will lead to an infinite regression of causes. And i feel this is where most Atheist miss it. God is not bound by the dimensions of space and time, God is outside of time meaning he has been existing before time began.

He created time so as to achieve cause and effect so that there will be consequences for every action taken. It's only something that is bound by time that can be created (meaning having a beginning) So God doesn't need to be created.

when we talk about eternity (in religion) it simply means timelessness and that is in heaven, the abode of God. As humans we will find it extremely hard to comprehend since we are operating in a system governed by space and time.

I like the second guy's comment. But frankly speaking when will guys stop over hyping girls just to get in between their legs? There is much more to Life than the useless less than 1min pleasure a woman has to offer.

It really disgusts me when I see the silly things some guys do this days just to please a lady. Last week it was the case of a guy that drank sniper, i could also remember a scenario when I was still in the University i saw a shameless guy kneeling down to beg his girlfriend @ the school bus stop with so much crowd.

He created a scene that day and i can never forget that incident. Now who knows what would have happened to their relationship now, I'm very sure they must have broken up.
I think it's time for guys to brace up and face the realities of life.

I'm surprised at the number of guys falling for this ridiculous deceit coming from a guy with a female moniker who is probably bored and decides to open this thread and make fun of unsuspecting and gullible guys. Your moniker has already exposed you to be fake. Don't know why guys are still replying HIM. This is an insult on our collective intelligence.

Iluvsweetsex:
I ve d brain and I also luv sex die pretender

No Nigerian or African woman will ever make this type of confession. So therefore I put it to you that you are a guy hiding behind a female moniker. You have been exposed!

queencalipso:
But you just said you guys were having an argument when she said the word. Didn't you say hurtful things to her too? And to think you even insulted her first. If you can't take her back wholly please let her go.

You are here now forming boss because she came to beg you without considering the hurtful things you said to her too that made her say those words to you.

Well I'm not surprised, it's only natural for you to defend your fellow woman. Even if she commits more grievous offenses you will still defend her. I don't expect any guy on this thread to take your comments serious anyway.

Berlyn:
why spam my thread with your usless comment

A useless thread attracts useless comments. What type of comments were you expecting before? That people should congratulate or hail you for your supposed break up? Abeg swerve joor.

Berlyn:
why spam my thread with your usless comment

A useless thread attracts useless comments. Abeg swerve joor

Vickyydera:
when you fall in love or meet the guy you are sexually attracted to, you will feel like doing it.

I don't think so, initially i suspected circumsion but from her reply it clearly shows its a medical problem. I guess she may need a sex therapist like
/xynerise/ has suggested. And i don't think sex therapists are common in Nigeria (if they even exist at all). Maybe she should see a doctor.

safarigirl:
i can't stand them. I don't do any of the sexes, I admire guys, but intimacy is a no-go area for me.

Hard to explain, I don't understand it myself

Your case is not strange and you are not the only one. It is most likely that you were circumcised (W.H.O will rather call it genital mutilation) while young. I know you may not admit this fact due to the stigma attached to it. But it's no longer news that it's widely practiced in Africa. About 70% of Nigerian ladies are circumcised. It's carried out to reduce or kill the libido of a woman completely so that she won't be wayward thus keep her virginity for her husband. But it has serious health implications for the woman later in life. I don't want to go into details because i don't expect anyone to still be ignorant on this topic.

xynerise:
Really? You mean you don't feel a thing when you get a kiss? See me see something

Bro, if she is sincere, then she must have been grossly circumcised while young (genitaly mutilated) hence she can never like or enjoy sex. She is not the only one, majority of Nigerian girls have suffered from this act about 70% or so. Those type of women are nothing but a log of wood in the bedroom.

flokii:
You no soji atal..
Can't you see d ex in question is a NLer? Read in between d lines

Oga wetin be ur own na? D person wey my comment dey address sef no talk.

KingCheezyPuff:

Seriously!?
Who made you or them the deciders of what slutty looks like!?

°And who said most women dress to attract the male gaze?
We wear whatever we do because We Like It.

*You got no self control?!

Hey, look here woman, you have no idea about how the male system is wired. Women should stop dressing indecently. It's a distraction to the opposite sex.

Youths of nowadays with relationship fuss. Why spam NL with ur relationship issues ?

HardMirror:
Interesting
So what historical readings are you talking about?
Don't forget there are historical accounts of reincarnation and hindus also believe there is no heaven only reincarnation and final rest of no existence.
So why are don't you believe in reincarnation afterall it also has historical accounts, many people who testify to be reincarnated, and a religion that follows the believe in reincarnation.

I really don't believe that reincarnation BS. Despite historical accounts.
Death is not a joke and it's not what anybody will envisage in another life. The process of dying is characterized with extreme pain and frustration, the highest the body can ever take/tolerate. It's best experienced once

Personally I don't think anybody will be happy with the knowledge of being born into this world again and start this whole process all over again. It just doesn't make sense to me. I strongly have this conviction that something still lies ahead. i have read many NDE stories from patients and they were convinced about an afterlife. They described it as very real, more than anything they have ever experienced.

Died because of a woman? And a girlfriend for that matter! That's simply ridiculous.

This ain't creative at all, it's bizarre !

This ain't creative at all, it's bizarre !

End time thread. And the fact that it's even created by a woman makes it more flabagasting

A University of Benin student has
been denied graduation for three
years despite meeting all academic
requirements, and his lecturers and
examination officials say they have
been too busy to compile his
records.

Temidayo Awoyemi, 26, had eagerly
hoped to fulfill his dreams after
graduation from the school’s
department of chemistry. He now
has spent three years now after
completing his studies, without
graduation.
Officials in his department and
faculty say they have had no time to
process his records for the last two
years.

The faculty checker, Professor
Anthony Imiavan, in charge of
scrutinizing students’ records,
confirmed to Premium Times that
the student had no case to keep him
from graduating.
A spokesperson for the school told
this newspaper the case was
“strange”, and assured it would be
resolved quickly.
Despite that assurance, the school
has yet to act on the matter more
than a month after.

Temidayo’s problem began in his
final year when his department said
his West African Senior Secondary
School Certificate was not in its
records. At least five other students
in his class had the same problem.
After losing the 2012/13 school
session to a six-month strike by
Academic Staff Union of Universities,
Temidayo hoped he would be quickly
let go the next session once he
provided a copy of the missing
certificate.

He submitted the certificate to the
chemistry department and began to
wait for clearance since 2013/2014
session. Two years after, he is still
waiting for the school to process his
result for graduation.
The process of clearing him requires
the approval of his course adviser,
Wayne Omagamre, faculty checker,
Professor Anthony Imiavan; the Head
of Department, Professor James
Okuo; and Dean, Professor Sunday
Omosigho.

Source: http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/205100-uniben-lecturers-block-students-graduation-3-years-say-busy-compile-records.html

Can any Nigerian woman do this? I strongly doubt it.