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@ALL,

This is another explanation of how the motors(jacks) moves the dish.

SATELLITE               MOTOR A(ELEVATION)               MOTOR B(AZIMUTH)

HOTBIRD 13E          1132                                          1074                      -OFFSET LNB

ASTRA 19E              1013                                          1148                      -OFFSET LNB

EUROBIRD 9           822                                             1213                      -OFFSET LNB

NILESAT                 1054                                            412                       -CENTRE LNB

NILESAT                 1046                                            410                       -CENTRE LNB(MBC PERSIA AND SOME OTHERS)

THOR 1.0 W           1111                                             445                      -CENTRE LNB


the secound nile sat marked purple is for some channels on ab4 beam.so u will have to shift the elevation down a little bit to get a perfect reception of those channels.

note that all the providers on east makes use of the offset lnb(the white one) for reception while all providers on the west makes use of the centre lnb(the one with red cover)

have a look at the positioner.

@ALL ,

have a very close look of the lnb's as i earlier explained in the recent installation post.

obnelly:
Great,but pls what other packages does thid dream box work with outside hotbirds packages.does it works with nilesat as well.?

@obnelly,

Dreambox opens about 58 different providers(note that i mean providers not 58 channels).so u should know what that means.

let me give u the ones at our reach here:

SHOWTIME ARABIA

ALJAZEERA PACKAGE

ART PACKAGE

OTHERS INCLUDES:

NOVA

POLSAT

CYFRA + AND SO  MANY OTHERS DEPENDING ON THE SIZE U HAVE.

in  fact dreambox is all about u having the required dish size to open the package u want.

skalamanga:
@Ifendi
my email seejidek@gmail.com.
i had earlier posted my dilema about the non performance of the updates i was getting on the echolink decoder and got a respons from dejsam that he could help by putting me thru how to use a .CAS file and should drop my email which i did a couple of times but no response from him until you came up with a similar solution, thanks

@skalamanga,

bros abeg no vex.its this installation at hand that has been on my neck and really havent had much time to spend on line.but i am rounding up by tommorrow by his grace to return to my base.i will try and see if i can spend some little time to do that today.please bear with me.

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Hi all house members,
This are the results of the recently concluded 5 meter dish installation @warri together with my team members from kano.The dish belongs to a respected member of this great forum in person of BUTONEDAY
1-DISH FEATURES.
It is a standard steel constructed dish with aluminium made parabolic face(the paraboloic face is fully aluminium).with total diameter of 5 meter in size.the dish is capable of an azimuth movement of 270 degrees between left and right and also having a focal length of 73/(3.4)inches.it is driven by two jacks,using one for the azimuth turn and the other for the elevation.(refer to picture for details.)
2-DISH INSTALLATION:
The installation of the dish takes a minimum of about 4-5 days by 2-3 people. The construction of the dish basement takes  an average of 10 bags of cement depending on how strong u want it and it takes two days to dry at an average.the assembling of the dish stand and the parabolic base takes about two days too.then the tracking takes as much time as u want cos u will have to keep tracking everything that is trackable,and finally the cabling.
The dish is presently fitted with two ku band scaller rings and each of the ring is  carrying a ku lnb fitted with brass rings to make it a prime focus lnb which will as well boost the lnb’s signal reception. one of the lnb is centered and the other one is offset.the centered one is an echosat quad lnb and the offset one is a digisat quad lnb.both lnb’s are positioned inversely against each other.this is because of polarity challenge between providers on the east and on the west  due to the azimuth movement nature of the dish.(what this means is that if u are using just an lnb on it and u are moving from one position to another,the polarity will keep switching at every movement because the dish does not move like the normal motorized up and down movement that is widely known by all)so what we did was to use two lnb’s inversely positioned.

DISH POSITIONING:

HOTBIRD:

ELEVATION IN WARRI=11 DEGREES EAST
AZIMUTH IN WARRI=132 DEGREES EAST

NILESAT :

ELEVATION IN WARRI=17 DEGREES WEST------------------------------ELEVATION IN KANO=22 DEGREES WEST
AZIMUTH IN WARRI=245 DEGREES WEST-------------------------------AZIMUTH IN KANO=240 DEGREES WEST

The above difference make it glaring that kano  is higher in elevation.

RECEIVABLE HOTBIRD FREQUENCIES IN WARRI:

A total of 130 transponders were receivable on hotbird.some of which are listed below

12140 v 3695 75%
11975 H 27500 79%
11527 H 27500 83%
11745 H 27500 83%
11543 V 21984 84%
11586 V 27500 73%
12189 V 27500 82%
11357 V 27500 87%
11201 V 27500 75%

Providers we were able to get includes:

1-SKY ITALIA
2-NOVA
3-CYFRA+
4-AFN NETWORKS
5-ALJAZEERA +1---------+10
6-MEDIA BROADCAST
7-ORANGE
8-GLOBECAST
9-RAI
10-CYFROWY POLSAT
11-BIS
12-ARABESQUE
13-ALL S*X*X*X*X*X CHANNELS AND SO MANY OTHER PROVIDERS TOO.

Having a total of about 1,367 channels on hotbird.

All the above listed providers  and number of channels are all showing using a dreambox  receiver(DM 500S) which I took down to warri myself,and i am still in warri as i am making this post.

NILESAT:

Nilesat at warri gave a very big surprise using this 5 meter dish.the signal quality was something else even better than we originally expected.though,the dish when tested in kano before we brought it to warri  gives nothing less than 98% on all receivable frequencies.but the least frequency at warri gave about 64%.some of the frequencies that we got are:

11744 v 27479-89%           
11764 v 27498-82%
11738 v 27494 -94%
11804 H 27496-77%
11822 V 27494-93%
11842 H 27488-79%
11862 V 27480-93%
11881 H 27473-77%
11900 V 27500-81%
11919 H 27500-75%
11938 H 27497-88%
11957 H 27476-82%
11975 V 27496-95%
11996 H 27500-73%
12012 V 27500-89%
12034 H 27500-79%
12052 V 27471-85%
12073 H 27500-74%
12131 V 27475-88%
12149 H 27500-70%
12207 V 27478-92%
12226 H 27500-68%
12283 V 27495-86%
12303 H 27500-65%
12341 V 27500-64%

BADR,ASTRA AND EUROBIRD 9 :

The three did not really give us good results as expected due to blockage by the overhead water thank almost behind the dish.but here are some frequencies

BADR FREQUENCIES:                 ASTRA FREQUENCIES:
10907 H                                       11952 V
11061 H                                        11652 V
11085 H                                       11651 H
11758 H                                        11673 H
11784 V
11860 V
11938 H
11974 H
12052H
12131 H
10754 V
11804 V
11919 V
12034 V
12073 V
                               
11784 V
11860 V
11938 H
11974 H
12052H
12131 H
10754 V
11804 V
11919 V
12034 V
12073 V

OTHER SATELLITES THAT WE GOT INCLUDES:eutelsat w2,amos,atlantic bird 3 and thor 5.

so many pictures will follow this post with time.because i cant upload all at a time

olofofo:
@george_d

nice work.

@lolu

long time, now everyone will start calling me "key guy"

@all

I have used a motorized 1.8m dish and then moved on to a fixed 2.4m dish for my nilesat before moving to a 3m dish for nilesat as so on

the point on the fixed/motoriized arguement is thus:

if you want real entertainment in one package, a fixed 3m for niilesat is your best bet, because, u do not need to wait to flip channels, imagine watching SABC at intelsat 902 at 62E on your motorized dish and all of a sudden you need to change to cnn on Nss 7 cband at 22w and then u need to go back, apart from the wear and tear of motorizing your dish, it gets really cumbersome after some time, but as Lolu pointed out. a motorized dish is great for anyone trying to experiment, but remember you can only watch one satellite at a time, so at the end of the day, your motorized dish is basically a fixed dish at some point.

@all

just laid my hand on a dreambox 500s like a mentioned a couple of days back and the question i keep asking myself is this:

how can the best technlology in the Satellite world have taken this long to get to us here?

this box is the BEST DECODER I have seen in my life
i will keep you updated .

@olofofo,

hen, person when never see dreambox in action no go understand wetin u de yarn.i feel u ojare.i will keep the house posted on the dream thing.

skalamanga:
@Ifendi
whats this CAS update? i joined the FTA community with the echolink 3030usb model on 1.8m strong offset dish(dont know why they call it offset) since april09 and was enjoing all the channels on nilesat until recently most of the entertaining channels went off,
@all
i'am miffed and my wife that used to enjoy channels such as reality, nat geogr, discovery et all is getting frustrated by the day because each time i try the new updates they dont work, no more art sports, aljazeera sport etc, the most painful part is having to return to viewing centers to watch Nations cup mayches. Are there alternate decoders, sattelites, LNB or card that i can use to open these channels? because we are seriously contemplating on returning to dstv.
thanks.

@skalamanga,

i would have explained what cas update is all about to u.but that can't be done on the forum now.its usually a discussion at the backyard or private message or mail discussion.cas data update for echolink is available as at now for ART and JSP on nilesat.but i cant get accross to u.u can drop ur mailbox.will get accross to u when i am sending to my people too.

hope this will help u a little.

George_D:
@Sathob,
It's been quite a while. Happy new year to you all the rest FTA on the west side!  

@george d,

things are going as earlier discussed.will be coming as earlier said.sorry couldnt get back to u on that stuff.i havent been chanced this week.but i will get the latest info on it tommorrow saturday and relate back to u accordingly.

@ pito,

how far about those stuffs.hope u got them intact.

@ ALL ,

LATEST ECHOLINK UPDATE AVAILABLE AT THE GOOGLE GROUPS.

ENJOY WHILE IT LASTS.

twinstaiye:
@expert in the house
I have tampered with my starsat receiver. I first noticed that the abra card had been disabled, on my effort to have it enabled, i have tampered with its boot loader. Now, i cant load any upgrade on it anymore. The only thing appearing on it is the 'ON' light. If there is anything anyone can do about it, let me know so I can send it to you for revival. Or perhaps, I should forget about reviving it.

@ twinstaiye,

u can check ur mail box for the necessary materials for the repair.its just like the normal upgrade process but it has the repair loader attached in the repair file i sent to ur box .

regards.

usher8701:
do you have any idea where I can get the software?

@usher8701,

just give me ur e mail addy.and u can as well check the g-groups.

@all,

ART PACKAGE AND JSP SPORTS +1--------- +10 BACK AND RUNNING ON ECHOLINK AGAIN

enjoy ur selves guys

George_D:
@Dejsam,
What's up at your end? I will try that package before weekend and get back to you.
Happy new year!

@osef,
Been quite sometime. How body?

@george d,

roger that.just keep me posted sha.i will be entering ur end any moment from next week but subject to how fast my leave approval will be.i will keep intouch with u on this.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL NAIRALANDERS.

u guys are all wonderful people to be with.i enjoyed every bit of u guys.and to all my buddies:

butoneday,george d,olofofo,badaru 1 of all people,spaceman,ifende,microgiant,my moderator twinstaiye,pito,emexi,adeexy,adewest,jujukemist,my person (enitaannnnnnnnn),olason,linksman,jossyblessand other fellows i can't metion"i beg ur padon please"

happy new year to u all,wishing u long life and many more years to come.we will all live to enjoy fta goodies by the grace of GOD.i love u all

i really appologise for my long absence in the forum.this has been cos of so much office work on my neck and even network connectivity.

its really great being with u all

@all,

jsp sports1-4 back on echolink.others should also confirm if its back on strong receivers as i have not really had time to confirm with my own strong receivers.enjoy while it lasts

Emeritus153:
@all, pls am having problem with my diseq. If my signal from lnb to decoder is 70% if i connect it through diseq, it will reduced to something like 45%. Anybody with solution

@emeritus 153

just change ur disect switch.thats what is bad,i had similar experience b4 and ever since i changed my disect i have been very ok with all my connections.i will advise u get a supermax disect switch and u are up and running.

George_D:
@Ecowas4All,
@alancruise,
@all,

I'm reluctant to delve into the issue of solar power here seeing as this thread is all about FTA but since we all need stable power supply to enjoy whatever stations we succeed in tracking, maybe it may not be out of place to give a little info about my installation.

The system comprises basically of a 5kva inverter with a 48v battery bank of four 12v 200AH deepcycle batteries. This feeds the house load while the solar modules feeds the battery bank. All this while I've been recharging via nepa light until recently when I installed those sharp solar modules. The panels are two pieces 200w, 34.8v/4.9A sharp modules connected in series combined to give a total 400w/69.9v/4.9A charging power for the battery bank. The modules supply power through a charge controller which regulates the charge current-as the name implies. As a hybrid system, I can use nepa to charge when public power is available and I can also use the sun to charge when nepa fails. Better still, I can use both at the same time.

As for the cost, I'd say it's not for the faint-hearted. And that to me is what has been discouraging most people from going this road. One 12v/200AH battery alone is about 52k. A good 5kva inverter goes for around N180k. One 200w sharp solar module goes for about N180K. You do the maths and see what I mean.

However, cost aside, for those who can afford it, its still way better than having a heavy duty diesel/petrol guzzling gen set at home. Why? Because besides the batteries which may need change out every 5 to 7 years, the system is virtually maintenance-free. No petrol or diesel, no servicing, no smoke, no noise, no black oil on the floor. Just press the buton and use power from heaven to watch nilesat!

@george D,

this is really a nice one.keep it going.i have also increased in knowledge.thanks for this post.

pitodenz:
No time to read previous post.
@ All
      Back from jungle,very big thanks to butoneday,george d and microgiant for keeping me updated while i was away.
I ve a very serious issue at hand,if there is any body who has the idea of how i ll separate up to 20 rf channels before distributing to more than 300 rooms should please help me with a solution. What i mean is that am using 20 receivers and am gonna bring out one channel from each receiver through rf,how do i then separate the channels without conflicts. Which device am i gonna use to separate the channels and how do i get a very good picture quality in all the 300 rooms. Some rooms range above 300meters. Please guys i need solutions and suggestions.
@ Olofofo
          I was unable to get u all this while. I ll be in jungle all tru the month and i want to get in touch with u.

@pito,

what i will suggest u do is to assign frequency to each receiver.u know the uhf frequency is withen 21-69.so assign frequency to each receiver and

may be u should even give a space between them like(21,23,25,27,29,31,33,35,etc)i think this will help u get all the channels on each tv set with

out conflict since each receiver has been given a uhf frequency.

George_D:
@olofofo,
@BUTONEDAY,
@badaru,
@Dejsam,

Could we kindly take this discussion to the backyard? Before you know, there will be floodgates of requests for this package and most uninitiated won't know what it's used for.
I guess the G-group will serve us better for it than here. Just my thought.

@george d,

i feel u ojare my person.we are migrating to the backyard on this issue.

BUTONEDAY:
@Dejsam,
Please confirm if server for Infinity is also in 13 deg east

@butoneday,

yes it is:

Main Features:

* Skysharing via NewcamD
* Hotbird as Server
* Digital Sat Receiver
* Lifetime Server acess *
* Big Provider Packages
* USB Function
* Twin Tuner
* Record Function via USB
* Firmware Updates via USB and Serial

badaru1:
@butoneday

Predator is now available in naija

The decoder is too much. it works with espn frequency in nile for hotbird almost 90%,all nile and mcsa

There also agadget that works the same way as the above decoder,you can attach it to any decoder to descramble the above channels,it is cheaper than predator. This works like server to either your strong or any other decoder. for more info call me.

@butoneday,

na true talk badaru yarn o .i just bought one on monday for somebody on the forum.it works like magic.all nilesat,oldroger opens like magic.but i was told it opens nova and so may providers too but i can only confirme those two.

predator 8700 and infinity are the way forward.

@obijack,

the best option for u is to get a 3 or 4 way lnb.this will solve ur problem completely.

@the greatest butoneday,

wetin de happen for ur side.hope no lele.i will confirm these two stuffs from my end .its like i once came accross it in a shop.

@jayron,

just a look on the receiver ,u know if its fake or original.it all depends on how familiar u are with strong receivers.but one major feature u look out for is the ISBN behind the receiver and the finishing of the receiver itself.then take a look at the panel inside of it,u will see that the cloned one has a much more green colour than the original strong panel.

just be very careful sha