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Even with Tinubu on side, Mr Buhari may yet lose votes in the SW.

However, without Tinubu, Mr Buhari can expect a terrible outcome in the SW.

For these reasons alone, Mr Buhari has no choice than to kick Oyegun to the long grass & ensure the latter is not re-elected chairman.

Wasn't fashola part of the group that tried to scheme Tinubu out of real power within APC in Abuja soon after Buhari's election?


Besides, a birthday is a personal affair. A 2nd row sitting for a person who was part of an Abuja coup against you is perfectly adequate.

Fashola was so great, he did a borehole for N70 million. Laughable.

Ejiphill09:
Dumps up for this. You are more aware of the power play more than those hailing Tinubu up and down with knowing what is the bone of contention.

Mind you Tinibu will succeed in removing Oyegun but will they allow him install his own man the question is NO.

they will still end up bringing someone that will further cut Tinibu in sizes.

I am not aware that Tinubu is insisting he must 'install' the Chairman.

And all this talk of cutting him down to sizes is childish. Tinubu remains one of the most powerful unelected person in Nigeria. Neither the South South, South East, North East, or NW has an equivalent person with influence accross every state of his region. Jonathan cannot influence votes in Edo, nor Akwa Ibom the way Tinubu inflences votes accross the SW.

Tinubu is actually in a difficult situation.

He has to remain in APC, and I think 80% of that is because of the Vice President.

He cannot handpick the VP for the position, and then not support him (APC) come 2019 elections.

It's simply not possible.


APC is broken already. Once Buhari is gone, the CPC and ACN elements will go their separate ways.

Ejiphill09:
With time you will get to know its all about TINIBU. mind you All those state Chairmen returned was backed by thier various Governor except only Tinibu private property Lagos state.

I dont think Tinubu is interested in who is the APC state chairman in Enugu or Gombe. State Chairmen can be returned unopposed as their Governor wishes.

For him, I believe it's about the national chairman, Oyegun.

Tinubu rightly boycotted today's NEC meeting.

Mr Buhari is funny. He was present at the NEC where the so-called tenure extension took place. He wanted the extension.

The only reason he's saving face now is because Lagos APC vowed to challenge the extension in court. APC would have been bogged down in a litany of court cases, the likes of which they've never experienced.


Oyegun is around 80years. If he wants to contest again, that's fine. But he should go through the electioneering process.

For better projection to buyers, I suggest you include price of each product.

Also, Dripline is 1.0mm wall thickness while Mainline is only 0.6mm. Can this really be correct?

TheDevilIsALai:
It's currently in the Caribbeans offering tours between idyllic Islands.

It is being operated by a company domiciled in the Cayman Islands under the name BOREMI Ventures

This can't be true.

Sunborn Yatch has no engine and an engine cannot be retrofitted.

It can't move by itself. It has to be towed from location to location.

The idea that it is '...offering tours between idyllic Islands...' is impossible.

It was towed to and from Lagos.

One of the stakeholders in Visionscape owned a helicopter hire company.

So?

The only scandal here is the poor transition from Lawma to Visionscape. That's for the latter & LASG to sort out.

My bro was on a visit from USA recently. Na so him dey blow grammar about how we didn't totally modernise the family house where our mum stays

The house is clean, and all necessary amenities are present. At over 70 years old, some people don't want dramatic 'modernisation' around them.

At Christmas, I replaced mum's damaged 32 inch TV with a cool 40 inch, she didn't like it. She insisted I repair the old one! When she comes to my place, she finds modern tiles too cold to the feet.

You have to listen to them and give them exactly what they want, not what you think they should want.

I am surprised by this list.

Many of those on the list are very successful people who have no previous history of commenting publicly on socio-political issues.


For them to choose to put their names to a list like this means a lot.


Everyone is getting fed up with the country.

'...so ExxonMobil would no longer have an excuse for not relocating to the State.'


This is not the sort of language to use.


International companies are not easily bullied.

debbiepatola:
I have two used greenhouse for sale call 08083179095

Can you post a picture or 2 of the greenhouses?

oladiran2:
You sterilize in a sterlizing pan and allowed to cool before bagging in the grow bags

This is fine if you intend to plant up to a certain number of bags. May be 50 or less bags.


Boiling enough sand for 500 bags for example could easily take several days. For me, that's tedious and inefficient.


My choice will be hydrogen peroxide. It will kill most soil germs within seconds of coming into contact with them, thus enabling you to 'clean' a large amount of sand within a short period. And unlike bleach, there will be no risk of damage to the incoming plant.

tobida:
It becomes mandatory once the Judge makes that decision. Judgement dictates mandamus.


Any seasoned lawyer will stop EFCC in their tracks with such injunction order by the Supremem Court.

Even assuming Innoson's lawyers are successful in obtaining an injuction, that would only provide temporary relief to Dr Chukwuma, since the issues in the case before the court do not directly relate to the offences for which Innoson is charged.

The supreme Court cannot rule on a matter that is not before it.


And even if the Supreme Court rules that the goods belong to Innoson and not GTB, the Police can still go ahead with the charge of forgery of documents. That remains an albatross around Innoson's neck.

Of course, all of these assume that EFCC's facts are correct. We know they do get things wrong, and Innoson could be an innocent victim.

We wait & see.

ItachiUchiha:
The first case they took to court was on customs selling part of the motorcycle parts and GT later sue on same issues..please google and read, dont assume or defend anybody without facts.

BTW, the EFCC was not set up to prosecute civil cases already in courts, thats parallel prosecution is even against the constitution. The civil case will have to be completed before another govt agency starts prosecution.

I'm sorry, but you're wrong.

If you fall victim to Omonile in a land transaction. You can bring a civil case in court against the Omonile for recovery of your money.

At the same time the Police can start prosecuting the Omonile for the[b] crime[/b] of Advance fee fraud.

The Constitution does not forbid this.

However, in some instances, where the facts are so complex that running criminal and civil cases concurrently is likely to be unhelpful, a judge may suggest to the parties that they allow either the civil or criminal case to reach conclusion. But this is not mandatory under the law.

[quote author=ItachiUchiha post=63579848]The fact that this case went to court four times is sufficient to show you that EFCC is useless.

Now remember the goods legally belong to GT but owned by Innoson. If you know how banks work, youll know they would have killed innoson since 2001 if the claim was correct..

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I'm sorry, but you're wrong.

In law, whoever has title has ownership. At the point in question, the goods were owned by GTB, not Innoson.

ItachiUchiha:
Yeah, agreed.
But are you aware GT and Innoson and customs have gone to courts 4 times already on this issues and others?

Check the year and ask why EFCC is trying to bundle the man after such years.

A useless organization... But again which Nigerian agency is sensible?

No, they have not gone to any court on this issue. To my understanding, they have been in courts over claims of over deduction. That is a civil matter. That is different from criminal matter.

Even if you win a civil case, whose facts also have criminal law elements, the Police or EFCC can prosecute the criminal element and you might find yourself convicted and end up in jail.
FOR EXAMPLE
If I owed you money and you came to my house to demand payment. If an argument ensued and you punched me in the face knocking me down. You could sue me to court and obtain judgement against me for payment of the debt (this is a civil matter). However, I could also head to my local police station to report that you punched (battered) me. If upon interviewing both of us, the Police is satisfied that you did infact punch me, the Police could charge you to court for battery(this is a criminal matter). The fact that you won a civil case against me for the debt is irrelavant to the criminal offence of battery. Police/EFCC deal with criminal cases.

I hope this provides some clarification..

Malawian:
Innoson collected loan from GTB under 22% interest rate and also deposited a collateral, used the loan to import stuff, now pls tell me, how does the goods imported with the loan he collected and was paying for with interest, now become the property of GTB?

That title to imported goods remain with the financier (GTB) of the imported goods is common practice in international trade. Title will only normally pass to the importer upon the latter's satisfaction of certain conditions.

This term will have been contained in the lending Agreement signed by both parties. Banks do not do these sorts of transaction orally and without documentation.

Let's hope EFCC is wrong and Dr Chukwuma has contrary evidence. Otherwise, the man is in trouble.

tobida:
Dem don dey craze


Bank don turn spare parts dealer bah!

According to the Information Sheet, GTB was the consignee - meaning, the goods legally belonged to GTB (the lender) and only upon satisfaction of certain terms of the lending agreement between GTB and Innoson would GTB have authorised the release of the goods to Innoson.


So, if EFCC's facts are correct and Innoson went behind GTB using forged documents to facilitate release of the goods, then, this is serious.

It's now up to EFCC to prove these charges.

Now this is serious.

That wouldn't have worked. Nigeria is not Catalan.

A few party officials will have been bought & used to forment sponsored crisis in the party.

Before you know it, Kanu would be unseated as party leader in a kangaroo party vote and rendered irrelevant.

I'm sure the so called 'new terms' is probably 3 or 4 times costlier. GLO may well feel it's not worth the trouble given the relatively small size of the country.

oderemo:
Hang on my learned friend, question is , is it within efcc power to effect the arrest for interrogations?
If not then it becomes innoson v gtb?(civil), unless a criminal intentions can be proven?(criminal)?

You keep conveniently ignoring the allegations against the man and his company, ie., that he:

1. obtained a loan under false pretence
2. used forged documents to clear goods from the ports, thereby bypassing the original documents which the company lodged with GTB as security for securing the loan with which the goods were imported.

These allegations are of a criminal nature and thus come within the competence of EFCC or the Police.

Based on what we have read, EFCC's involvement relates (and rightly so) to these criminal allegations, and not the other disputes concerning excessive deductions from the Company's accounts.

Ohammadike:
In a country where industries are rare, I thought the nation as a whole will treat innoson as a national treasure.

Storming his house and arresting him without prior invitation or warrant is a breach of his rights.

Why bundle a Nation-builder like a criminal ?

Take your money out of gtb

Even if we assume that innoson is a pot of national treasure as you put it, so that puts it and its owners/directors above the law?


And no...I am not boycotting GTB. Infact, I am opening my first account with the Bank today or tomorrow becuase of the herd mentality and the profound tribalism of some of you. This is not a tribal issue. It's a matter between a bank and its customer.

GTB, the largest bank in the country, has tens of thousands of Igbo shareholders and thousands of employees of Igbo extracts, just as there are tens of thousands of Yoruba shareholders and several thousand employees in Zenith Bank. GTB is not 100% owned by Yorubas, nor is Zenith 100% owned by Igbos.

If Igbos boycott GTB and Yorubas respond by boycotting Igbo businesses, where does it all end? No one benefits.

I travelled from Gbongan junction to Osogbo for the first time just over a year ago and immediately came across a large new road under construction towards Oshogbo.

The scale of the project left me thinking we must be very close to Oshogbo....because anything more than 5km to Oshogbo, it seemed the road would simply be too expensive for a state government.

We kept going and going and, believe me in the end the journey must have been close to 25 kilometre to Oshogbo I kept thinking where would he get the money. What a brave man.


The experience (his determination) brought a tear to my eye when I recall how he is lampooned on Nairaland as a useless Governor.


What a great man. He also comes across as rather modest.

I am very sorry for the salary issue of course.

The level of suspicion amongst peoples of different religions, particularly Christians and Moslems is just out of all proportion.

Tolerance has to be given a chance.

From the picture I saw, the so-called veil did not cover the face of the lady that was denied a call to the bar.

It should be possible to accommodate such simple attire for call to bar ceremony. We see women wear this in offices, on the streets, in schools etc

Yes, the rules are the rules, but the body in charge of setting the rules should consider allowing a simple veil. Obviously, the type that covers the full face is a different thing entirely.

Nigeria is a country where you need a political strong man who can cut your region a good deal right at the top echelon of power.


Tinubu is the SW politician who has the political weight to do this.


I stand by, with, and behind him. APC or no APC.

saliubello:
Order now

What's the size of the large pipes next to the drip tapes in the photo above. 1 or 2 inches? And what's the price. Interested in about 300m of it.


Also, I assume you now have 2 versions of the rain gun, one N75k, the other 150k? I'm interested in buying one What's the difference BTW the two?

If someone is worth so- called 2 billion pounds, why would they travel all the way to the UK to appear in court to give evidence & be embarrassed over a 'mere' 1 million pounds

Fact: the true worth of some Nigerians are exaggerated.

Just settle out of court & move on.

If I was a PDP supporter, I might wonder if a SW PDP chairman at this very crucial moment for the party is the best.

And, there's one reason for that...TINUBU!


A very wily operator with access to enormous private resources to buy up any PDP chairman from the SW.

Even Buhari may put Federal govt resources in Tinubu's hands to buy up any SW PDP chairman

I know these are wild speculations but, this is Nigeria.

Do you sell the Main line (2nd pic above) for drip irrigation, and how much per metre.

Also, please what model pumping machine have used and can recommended for a 1 hectare drip irrigation supplied from a 40,000 litre water storage tank.

Thank you.