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PoliticsRe: This Persecution Should Stop – Ngozi Okonjo-iweala by Demdem(m): 8:20am On Jul 09, 2015
barcanista:
Oga which extra withdrawal? NASS don't tell Executive where to collect money...it isn't their business. They only approve spending wrt the overall budget. How the executive get their money is not part of their mandate. NASS made provision for subsidy in the budget, the government paid for the subsidy from the ECA, how does that become "extra withdrawal"? Where was FAAC all these while when she was updating them? If the States have any problem they should channel it to the FG(institution) and not officers of government.
Protection Seeker, so in ur daft state, the ECA which is Monies being Owned by the Federal and states and LG is part of what the NASS budgets on and approves that the Subsidy paymet should b made from right? grin grin
PoliticsRe: Jonathan, NOI, Governors And The Excess Crude Account Events by Demdem(m):
barcanista:
Payment of subsidy claims isn't a secret deal...The Ministry of Finance, Petroleum and CBN have the documents. Buhari should ask the Permament Secretaries and CBN Gov. If your Governors are unsatisfied they should Go To Court
Protection seeker has open another dubious thread. Subsidy claims paid from ECA grin grin grin
He earlier claimed the below..........


barcanista:
Subsidy was appropriated for in the budget my brother.
And we asked him...........


Demdem:
Protection Seeker, was the "Budgeted" Subsidy funds expected to come from the ECA? Did the NASS appropriated what the ECA will be used for?
He didnt respond, he instead repeated his stupidity..........


barcanista:
Oga wetin you de talk? Subsidy payment that was appropriated by NASS was mafe and yu are talking gibberish
He was again asked............


shachris02:
the question is, why did she have to make extra withdrawal from ECA for subsidy payment that was approved by NASS, without getting authorization from FAAC?
He responded with even a more foolish post..................


barcanista:
Oga which extra withdrawal? NASS don't tell Executive where to collect money...it isn't their business. They only approve spending wrt the overall budget. How the executive get their money is not part of their mandate. NASS made provision for subsidy in the budget, the government paid for the subsidy from the ECA, how does that become "extra withdrawal"?
Seriously, only an eternal Fool takes the Protection Seeker serious. grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Unpaid Salaries: 'Bailout Funds Not Jonathan's Savings,' Presidency Blasts PDP by Demdem(m): 7:46am On Jul 09, 2015
major466:
If the bailout moneys were gotten from NLG tax, why was the Duara born magician complaining of empty treasuryhuh Are taxes no longer part of the Nation's national treasuryhuh

Oponu, the money from NLLG came in July. The General came in May.
PoliticsRe: Unpaid Salaries: 'Bailout Funds Not Jonathan's Savings,' Presidency Blasts PDP by Demdem(m): 7:41am On Jul 09, 2015
“It was in keeping with that disposition that the President promptly disclosed the accrual of the NLNG dividends and taxes to the Federation Account at his recent meeting with state governors and approved the convening of a special session of the FAAC to share it.”


No doubt we have a very transparent President. NLNG yearly pays the Nigerian states dividends and huge taxes into the federation account but we never heard of such all throughout Jonah-daft Presidency. The drunkard will receive it quietly and refuse to disclose it to the states. Buhari received it in June and immediately disclosed it all. I am really happy that the finances of my dear country is in safe hands. I expect the states also to be responsible and follow Generals exam plenary leadership.
PoliticsRe: Tension At The Villa As Buhari Rejects NSA Sambo Dasuki's Resignation Letter. by Demdem(m): 7:34am On Jul 09, 2015
Which one is persecondnews again huh huh
PoliticsRe: Foreign Reserve Has Risen By $2.89b In One Month Under Buhari – Emefiele by Demdem(m): 7:20am On Jul 09, 2015
Where are those fools who are yet to believe that indeed change has come to us in this country?
PoliticsRe: This Persecution Should Stop – Ngozi Okonjo-iweala by Demdem(m): 7:08am On Jul 09, 2015
Southwest:
my useless mother is the shameless witch.

Useless god-forsaken child of a leprous witch mother and a baastad father I am

Fool, so how does this concern me?
PoliticsRe: We Located Chibok Girls But Couldn’t Rescue Them– Uk Envoy by Demdem(m): 7:07am On Jul 09, 2015
Moheat:
The kidnap was not real. And if anyone is to blame I think it should be shettima not Jonathan.

U Av been brainwashed by the buffoon Asari. Shame.
Car TalkRe: Mercedes Benz Thread by Demdem(m): 2:53pm On Jul 08, 2015
Trafford:
Please what is the price for 2003 Mercedes C200 compressor engine. My bros wants to buy the car but people are discouraged because he was being told that the engine that is very expensive... Please how true is that and is the car problematic... Thanks

If u treat ur baby well, u won't need to think about cost of changing an engine that u avnt even purchased.
Those engines are designed to last forever.
PoliticsRe: Where Are Those Jonathan's Snipers by Demdem(m): 2:23pm On Jul 08, 2015
LordBuchi:
Seems we have forgotten so soon...

Where are those snipers that Jonathan was training to cause mayhem if he lost 2015 election?

How many of those 1000 politicians in Jonathan's political watch list are dead by now?

Now that APC is in power did they continue with the training since GEJ was allegedly funding them from the presidency?

Maybe, at the "FULLNESS OF TIME"(in Femi Adesina's voice) we will know the real trainers of the snipers.

Go and ask Obj who made the accusations. He was in pdp when he made the accusations. I doubt if APC knows anything about it neither Av I heard APC made mention of such. It's a pdp family affair thing .
PoliticsRe: El-rufai’s Son Calls Fayose A ''VAGABOND'' (photo) by Demdem(m): 2:05pm On Jul 08, 2015
MzJackBaueress:
the word vagabond has been wrongly used. Most people use it as insult not knowing the real meaning.

El-rufai's son should check the meaning of words before using it. grin

Probably he was trying to say that Fayose thought being a governor is idle and has no time for governance. The goon has spent a year already and we simply can't highlight anything he has done in Ekiti.
PoliticsRe: This Persecution Should Stop – Ngozi Okonjo-iweala by Demdem(m): 2:00pm On Jul 08, 2015
Chesman10:
Soory for the digression, I only wanted to know if insult is part of criticism. I am just a village man from Akoko. Am here to learn.

Any political leader that takes me for a fool by their actions and words has insulted me first and am bound to respond even far worse.
PoliticsRe: Bashir El-Rufai Eating Pounds And Kissing His Girlfriend [PHOTOS] by Demdem(m): 1:51pm On Jul 08, 2015
A son who publicly declared that his mama is using Diapers just for political gains is far worse than a vagabond. Bashir is being polite.
PoliticsRe: This Persecution Should Stop – Ngozi Okonjo-iweala by Demdem(m): 1:46pm On Jul 08, 2015
[s][quote author=Chesman10 post=35628230][/quote][/s]

If u av nothing else to say kindly keep shut or better still raise ur moral standards elsewhere and not with me. I dont roll with such on an online forum especially against useless political leaders
PoliticsRe: #Bringbackourgirls Marching To Aso Rock To See Buhari (Photos) by Demdem(m): 1:43pm On Jul 08, 2015
[s]
Malawian:
are you sure you and berem is not one and the same person? its always the same two sentence reply lacking substance.
[/s]

Goon, u just made a foolish post.
PoliticsRe: El-rufai’s Son Calls Fayose A ''VAGABOND'' (photo) by Demdem(m): 1:38pm On Jul 08, 2015
Vagabond simply means a wanderer or an idle one. I think he is right and on point.
The governor whose mama dey wear Diapers is indeed a Vagabond.
PoliticsRe: This Persecution Should Stop – Ngozi Okonjo-iweala by Demdem(m): 1:35pm On Jul 08, 2015
Chesman10:
Now if you are a judge, are you not partsan? Wait for the outcome of the probe. Stop calling someone witch and liar because even you cannot stand it. Make your point and move on. We are here to get information not to learn how to insult.
I have always called her a liar far before this time for reasons that doesnt even have to do with this. Dishing out paper acheivement that has no bearing to the reality on ground. Even the commissioners have come out to publicly declared that she lied against them so am pretty safe.
PoliticsRe: This Persecution Should Stop – Ngozi Okonjo-iweala by Demdem(m): 1:25pm On Jul 08, 2015
barcanista:
Oga what is your point? How does this concern the subject being discussed?
Follow my earlier posts.
PoliticsRe: This Persecution Should Stop – Ngozi Okonjo-iweala by Demdem(m): 1:24pm On Jul 08, 2015
barcanista:
Subsidy was appropriated for in the budget my brother. That makes the act by the former government justified. My problem with the Governors led by Oshiomole is that they are being insincere.
Protection Seeker, was the "Budgeted" Subsidy funds expected to come from the ECA? Did the NASS appropriated what the ECA will be used for? Can u see ur life? smh cry cry
PoliticsRe: This Persecution Should Stop – Ngozi Okonjo-iweala by Demdem(m): 1:19pm On Jul 08, 2015
doctokwus:
This flip flopping woman with her over rated Harvard degree.
This same person told us just 2weeks ago that oshiomole was a liar and that d FAAC approved the withdrawals which it has no constitutional authority to do.
Now that that same body has distanced itself from the false approval, she is now lying that she never said they gave approval but that they were ' AWARE' of it!
The truth that has now come out is that she in connivance with the president withdrew that amount without the approval of the only statutory body so authorized to do so!
This woman and d former president should thank their stars Nigeria is not China or Malaysia, by now they would have been looking at the hangman's noose or at best a lifejail term!!Rubbish,see d foolish woman taking other Nigerians for fools!!!
The witchh has always been a liar. A shameless one for that matter. Do u remember the below:



HOUSE OF REPS FUEL SUBSIDY PROBE: Farouk Lawan: what is Nigeria’s daily fuel consumption?
Diezieni: 52million Liters
NNPC: 35m liters
DPR: 43m liters
PPPRA: 24M liters
Okonjo: 40M liters

Farouk Lawan: What was the subsidy for 2011?
Diezieni: 1.4Trillion
Okonjo: 1.3Trillion
CBN: 1.7Trillion

Farouk Lawan: Can we have the KPMG REPORT?
Okonjo: I have to go through the report first
Diezieni: I have not seen the report

Farouk Lawan: What is the production capacity of our local refineries?’
NNPC: 30%
PPPRA: 20%
DPR: 13%
Diezieni: 15%

Farouk Lawan: Does Nigeria pay subsidy on locally refined Products?
Diezaini: it depends
NNPC: The lay man cannot understand how it’s done
PPPRA: yes
DPR: No

Farouk Lawan: Why is Kerosene still scarce?
Diezieni: Because its use by the aviation industry as aviation fuel
NNPC: Because there is no subsidy so NNPC overstretched its resources
PPPRA: it’s not properly deregulated

Farouk Lawan: what is the balance in the subsidy accounts?
Diezieni: it’s a virtual account
NNPC: There is no account in existence as the lay man will look at it
PPPRA: The account is a technical one
CBN: There is no account with us for subsidy
Okonjo: The account exists but not with a bank. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Hmmm, abracadabra, the more you see the less u understand!


The crook deserves to rot in jail. grin grin
PoliticsRe: This Persecution Should Stop – Ngozi Okonjo-iweala by Demdem(m): 1:16pm On Jul 08, 2015
Chesman10:
Sometimes I wonder what Nigerians really want. President chairs NEC meetings while Min. of Fin. chairs FAAC.

U are wrong, VP chairs the NEC while Minister of state for Finance does for FAAC

Do you want Finance Min. to attend NEC meeting uninvited?

SHe was obliged to go even though constitutionally she shouldnt because Jonah-daft imposed on us an abnormality that is alien to the constitution. Ngozi was not just a Finance Minister but the Co-ordinating Minister of the Federation. She was also the "Chief Economist" of the federation. Yes she did attend the NEC meetings many times and the Attendees never had issues with that. They always wnat her to come because Clueless Sambo is dumb simply cant answer their questions.

Eventhough she is part of the NEC, SHE can only do what the president ordered her to do.Did the money shared by FAAC get to the governors?

Thats not the point. The money in question belongs to the Federal ans staates and both is expected to jointly decide what happens to it and not for the President to determine what, when and how he wants to utilize the funds.

OBJ ignored the request of the govs because he did not need their support while GEJ obliged them because he needed their support.

Obj days were far better..........He saved but during Jonah-daft time despite serious increase in income, the stuff kept going down unilaterally.

The questions that we need to ask is not which money is saved or which money is shared but how much was missing or unaccounted for. That should be the bone of contention. Do you want an administration to save much or to achieve much. Money is meant to be spent.

That is part of what the committee set up by NEC last week is expected to find out. In addition, they will also want to know if what ought to be saved was saved or some part of it was diverted to somewhere else and never told the Governors who are also co-owners. Keep ur fingers crossed
PoliticsRe: This Persecution Should Stop – Ngozi Okonjo-iweala by Demdem(m): 12:59pm On Jul 08, 2015
barcanista:
I'm not trying to hold brief for the Jonathan led government because I am not happy that he allowed himself to be forced by the rogues called governors to share the Excess Crude Account among themselves.

Protection seeker...... i warned u......

Furthermore, did the governors also stop the Federal Government from saving part of its share? If you ran a surplus budget at the Federal level, you would have had credibility to blame others or to say they did not listen to your advice. The key point is that since you were running huge deficits yourself, it was also in your own interest to share the ECA. You did not show leadership or credibility, full stop!


It was in Jonah-daft best interest to also share it. In fact, he wanted it shared more than the Governors themelves because he was running a far huge deficit than the states. So as u are blaming the governors, place double of such on the drunkard. If the Governors are rogues then Jonah-daft is a double-rougue because he received more than double of what all the Governors received combined.


[s]Back to the topic, I think Governor Oshiomole aka "Go and Die" and the APC are insincere and unfair to madam NOI. They all were aware in January this year when the Accountant General and the Minister for State of finance talked about using $2billion to make susidy payment. In fact, the exMin of State for finance briefed the FAAC on this development. Wehere were they then? Are they not aware? If Jonathan didn't pay subsidy claims in that period the Nigeria people would have faced the heat of fuel scarcity because marketers don't joke with their money(just like what happened at the twilight of his administration). For Oshiomole to ask "what NOI did with the money". In fact, I urge the FG to institute a probe and let's end this cat and rat chase once and for all[/s]

Lame........Very Lame.
PoliticsRe: This Persecution Should Stop – Ngozi Okonjo-iweala by Demdem(m): 12:49pm On Jul 08, 2015
merry02:
This blame blame ll nt take buhari government to anywhere....the man should should face governance squarly
Buhari has nothing to do with the Finance commissioners who claimed that the Bitchh lied against them. This is between her and them not Buhari.
PoliticsRe: This Persecution Should Stop – Ngozi Okonjo-iweala by Demdem(m): 12:46pm On Jul 08, 2015
[b]FINANCE COMMISSIONERS FAULT OKONJO-IWEALA OVER $2BN ECA APPROVAL



Finance commissioners from the 36 states of the federation have denied granting approval for the withdrawal of $2 billion from the Excess Crude Account (ECA) as alleged the former minister of finance and coordinating minister of the economy, Dr Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala.
Okonjo-Iweala had last week said that the Federation Account Allocation Committee (FAAC) approved the withdrawal of $2 billion from the ECA.
However, the Forum of Commissioners of Finance, a body comprising finance commissioners from the 36 states who are members of the FAAC, in a statement yesterday, said it was unaware of such approval, adding that the FAAC does not have powers to grant such approval.


“We wish to state unequivocally that the FAAC does not have the authority to approve withdrawals from the ECA and therefore could not have approved the withdrawal of the sum of $2 billion from the Excess Crude (Foreign) Account. According to the law setting up the FAAC, which pre-dates the ECA, it cannot approve withdrawal and has not done so in the past. If anything the FAAC, as records of it meetings indicate, had often queried the activities on the ECA, and therefore did not decide any withdrawal,” the statement reads in part.

The commissioners stated that “indeed, the FAAC noted and observed accordingly the withdrawal from the ECA of a total sum of $2 billion in December.
“The then minister of finance and chairman of the FAAC when asked during the plenary of the FAAC meetings of the respective months explained that the former president gave approval for the withdrawals from the ECA to pay oil marketers subsidy claims as they had threaten to stop importing petroleum products. According to her, he further explained that this action will be ratified by NEC.”[/b]




THE FROG-EYED BITCHH LIED........NEC NEVER SAT TO RATIFY SUCH AS CLAIMED BY HER
PoliticsRe: This Persecution Should Stop – Ngozi Okonjo-iweala by Demdem(m): 12:44pm On Jul 08, 2015
[quote author=barcanista post=35626034][/quote]
use ur brain well before talking rubbish ooo. If not, i wont take it lightly with u.
grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: This Persecution Should Stop – Ngozi Okonjo-iweala by Demdem(m):
Prof Soludo to Ngozi............The Bitchh never responded



I hereby challenge your attempt to blame others for not saving for the rainy day. It is not a virtue when you are quick to appropriate all the credit when things are going well, but shift the blame when they go wrong. You blame the state governors— who, according to you, have taken the Federal Government to the Supreme Court—not that a Supreme Court judgment forced your hands. For your information, the governors have never agreed to savings and always threatened court action even under Obasanjo. Why did we save under Obasanjo but not under Jonathan? Two keywords explain it: leadership and integrity. Governor Amaechi said the governors insisted on sharing the funds because they found out that you were illegally fiddling with the savings. So, as Nigerians still wonder, if billions of dollars are now ‘missing’ under your nose, why should governors trust you to keep their money? Do the states that have taken the federal government to the Supreme Court and refused to save also include the PDP governors—who are in the majority? If so, then it is fatal: even governors of your own party, PDP, do not trust you to keep their money! Furthermore, did the governors also stop the Federal Government from saving part of its share? If you ran a surplus budget at the Federal level, you would have had credibility to blame others or to say they did not listen to your advice. The key point is that since you were running huge deficits yourself, it was also in your own interest to share the ECA. You did not show leadership or credibility, full stop!
PoliticsRe: This Persecution Should Stop – Ngozi Okonjo-iweala by Demdem(m): 12:34pm On Jul 08, 2015
Payments made were used for paying for petroleum subsidies for the Nigerian people and were approved by Mr President.
Therefore there is no question of mismanaging any resources here.




The squandering of the Excess Crude Account (ECA) is another area in which the Minister of Finance should come out, shed more light and put all the cards on the table. During several meetings of the National Economic Council (NEC), which has all the governors as members and with the Vice-President as Chairman, I had cause to observe that the State Governments, who are joint owners of the ECA, with the Federal Government, were not being adequately briefed on the status of the Account.

Accordingly, I had consistently demanded from the Minister of Finance a transparent and periodic disclosure of accruals to the ECA, at least on monthly basis. I had argued that even village associations do make available their financial statements from time to time, and as NEC, I see no reason why we will not even do better. All these years, my pleas fell on deaf ears. The Minister of Finance consistently failed to apprise the NEC with critical information on the management and operations of the ECA in black and white, when she eventually got to do that, it was usually verbal and casual, and hardly meaningful enough for decision-making.

The Minister of Finance had also developed the penchant for deliberately avoiding NEC’s crucial meetings, which many saw as a ploy to keep the governors in the dark. And when she is not around, no one gets any information, as if she was running a one-man show.

http://saharareporters.com/2015/05/27/economy-okonjo-iweala%E2%80%99s-hidden-figures-governor-adams-oshiomhole


The bittch Ngozi and Jonah-daft jointly determined what they want to do with the ECA. The owners never sat to sit and agree as alleged by Ngozi earlier.
PoliticsRe: This Persecution Should Stop – Ngozi Okonjo-iweala by Demdem(m):
This shameless witch is still talking.......smh.......Am coming !!!!
PoliticsRe: #Bringbackourgirls Marching To Aso Rock To See Buhari (Photos) by Demdem(m): 11:40am On Jul 08, 2015
[s]
Dorrobucci:
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Fools like you will make a good slave.
Instead of you to find a way of upgrading your standard of living, you're here wasting ur time. Stop taking yourself serious cos nobody knows you exist.
Baboon !
[/s]

Fool, the protesters are doing the right thing. U can go and die. grin
PoliticsRe: #Bringbackourgirls Marching To Aso Rock To See Buhari (Photos) by Demdem(m): 11:16am On Jul 08, 2015
Dorrobucci:
.

Shut your trap!

Ediot!

Fool, u sound pained. grin
At least, 4 years to go. grin
PoliticsRe: #Bringbackourgirls Marching To Aso Rock To See Buhari (Photos) by Demdem(m): 11:07am On Jul 08, 2015
Dorrobucci:
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Mr man you people should go and find them and stop spewing this trash. Buhari is the president now get that into your empty skull angry
Goon, i seem to have struck a nerve.......i dont give a damn though.
The thread is about Protest to Aso Rock and my response is directed at that. If u av any issue with that, u can simply go and die.
PoliticsRe: Buhari Withdrew 3 Trillion In A Month From Virtually Empty Treasury by Demdem(m): 11:00am On Jul 08, 2015
Chubhie:
Shock me Demdem and say something intelligent.
Demdem:
Fool, is that the way ur fathers dey chop?

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