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I think your subject should read "Nigeria will change dramatically without the North"
I know you mean well, but "Nigeria won't change much with the North" sounds negative
and one can interpret it to mean Nigeria won't move forward without the North.

Your map shows that you can't think outside the box.
why retain green white green?
When frequent travellers know the headache of carrying a passport
with anything green on it.

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The one thing I have learnt about religion is
Never judge other people's belief or faith.

your points don't make sense
Let take each of your questions.
1. They will be reluctant to tell you that the God they worship was not always God.
Ans: Are you for real?
In Genesis 3:22, it states "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil,  "
Therefore, as the Lord himself says, Satan told Eve a half-truth. The Adversary lied when he said that Eve would "not surely die", but he told the truth when he said that she would become "like God, knowing good and evil."

To spread the false notion that mormons do not show proper reverence towards the Godhead, anti-Mormons often tell people that mormons believe that God was not always God. This misrepresentation is a twisting of an LDS doctrine called exaltation, a doctrine that the Bible clearly teaches.

We believe our Heavenly Father has given us this mortal life to become more like him. Those who are true and faithful in all things will sit in the throne of Christ. (Rev 3:21)
They will have the name of God the Father placed upon them (Rev 14:1) We believe that they shall be "heirs of God, and joint-heirs of Christ" (Rom 8:17). What shall the faithful inherit? ALL THINGS according to scripture (Heb 1:2)

"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matthew 5:48)
We call anyone who sits in the throne of God, has God's name and attributes, and who has inherited all things (i.e. - power, dominion, and knowledge) from God-----a god.

While we believe that the faithful will enjoy a life similar to our Heavenly Father, we also believe we will still be subject to and worship the God of Heaven, which is represented as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. Furthermore, while we will be "gods, even the sons of God" (D&C 76:58), we will never be at the same level as them or stop worshipping them, but we will be like them and enjoy a quality of life similar to theirs.

When you have passed this earth life and are in Heaven and have inherited all things and becomes a god.
Then someone says : You were not always a god but has to progress to the exact exalted station you now find yourself, can the statement not be true.
Look at Christ as our example.
He was a God before coming amongst men, yet he had to grow from grace to grace.

My advise to you.
Be careful in relations to things about religion.
Because in event you are wrong in your thinking, you only end up losing your way.
But don't be the means of making millions of people lose their way too.
The punishment will be more.

When people ask me about Islam, Hindu etc.
I tell people I can't judge least I will be judge with the same judgement.

Why not mention the name of the pastor
the purpose of forums is to
1. Identify problems in society
2. Discuss them
3. And then initiate a joint course of action
Name the pastor so that the heat can be put on him.

Are you alright?

Look at this scenario.
God tests us.
Satan tempts us.

The purpose of test is to make the person stronger
The purpose of tempting someone is to make them fall or falter

If your purpose is to make her fall then u might as well leave her right now.
Dude learn to trust people.

Nigeria - 419
Ghana - Sakawa
Eastern European - Hacking, cyber crime
US - Serial killers, gang related violence
South America - Drugs, drugs related voilence

Every country has their own, Nigerians should learn how to improve their image
and manage their affairs in a positive light.

This is the most biased thread I have ever read.
LOL
Please come clean what happened?
Have you been jilted by a calabar girl?
or Robbed by a calabar guy or what?
LOL

Memorable quotes for
Movie: Deep Cover (1992)

John Hull: Gerry, what's the difference between a black man and a nigger?
Carver: What?
[John Hull punches Gerald Carver in the stomach]
John Hull: The nigger's the one that would even think about telling you.

Countries using Nuclear power to produce electricity
https://uploadpic.org/storage/2011/yPnBnheZs3Q5cviTLBHjGn0I.jpg

India sucks at power generation.
Take a look at the number of Nuclear power plants owned by India and look at the
output capacity.
Then compare it with Germany or China,

Is Nigeria afraid of change or what is wrong with us?

I am Igbo and I support Buhari

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Muhammadu-Buhari/200382576653189?sk=wall

Propaganda
This is the one way G.E.J knows how to influence voters - with propaganda
Debate - No
Produce his own vision of where he wants to take Nigerians - No
Hide behind corrupt politicians - Yes
G.E.J should go and rest
He isn't getting my vote.
Pump and Plain

Thread continues here,
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=627401.msg7948189#msg7948189

homerac7:
Clowns. Lame ducks.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=627401.msg7947848#msg7947848 date=1300607528]so these europeans that brought slavery and backwardness to africa are the new source of hope abi ? [/quote]

monkeyleg:
So what has the AU been doing since Madman Ghadaffi has been killing his own people, what have they been doing in Ivory coast? What is thier reason for not wanting NATO in there, if Not business as Usual.

I beg I support them fully.

Breaking News:
https://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8591/libyay.jpg

Source: Aljazeera

We have opened all Libyan arms depots to arm people against the oppressors

[quote author=deji.ariyo link=topic=627401.msg7948056#msg7948056 date=1300611448]US/UK/FRANCE will never invade Zimbabwe even though they said Mugabe is the worst president in Africa, cos apparently Zimbabwe got no oil[/quote]Let the Zimbabwean people revolt and Mugabe decides to slaughter them and see what will happen?

Contrary to what you said, the majority of the country was and is in support of Gaddafi.

What! can you hear yourself speak.
Gaddafi paid mercenaries and paid money into the accounts of loyalty in Libya to support him.
All others did it out of fear believing they had no choice.

Equal action bring equal opposite reaction.
You cannot go around bombing your own people.

Wait what peaceful and diplomatic route?
Are those not the same conditions given by the UN and Allies?
Which Ghaddafi refused to comply with?

The panel also announced a meeting in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa on March 25, along with representatives from the Arab League, the Organisation of Islamic Conference, the European Union and the United Nations to "put in place a mechanism for consultation and concerted action" to resolve the Libyan crisis.

They should have set up a Committee like the PDP government.
People are dying and they are talking of having a meeting with the Arab league, OIC, E.U, UN,
Why couldn't they have this meeting like a week before.
If Ghaddafi wouldn't listen to the UN, US and threatening Brimstone and fire on them
why would he listen to some bunch of jobless A.U leaders?

African Union members are just afraid that their corrupt regimes could be next.

Ghaddafi's cup is full and the A.U should not worsen things for themselves by
supporting him.

Why can't Ghaddafi step down and respect the wishes of his own people.
If not for greed and the african leader's quest to cling on to power by all
means necessary even if it means killing his own people.

https://d.yimg.com/a/p/afp/20110318/capt.photo_1300438092395-65-0.jpg

Even the Libyans are celebrating an Allies intervention.
@ Bluetooth
What does that tell you?

Residents in the city of Benghaz were hours away from being
assaulted by Gaddafi's troop. If not for the intervention of the Allies forces
God knows what would have happened.
Imagine Gaddafi telling his own citizens that he will have no mercy.
And the AU sat there doing nothing,
Now they want to feel important.
I am tired of African leaders,

Africa is backwards - it is a clear example of foolishness

Africa is backwards - it is a clear example of foolishness

The African Union's panel on Libya Sunday called for an "immediate stop" to all attacks after the United States,
France and Britain launched military action against Moamer Kadhafi's forces.

It underscored the need for "necessary political reforms to eliminate the causes of the present crisis" but at the same time called for "restraint" from the international community to avoid "serious humanitarian consequences."
The panel also announced a meeting in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa on March 25, along with representatives from the Arab League, the Organisation of Islamic Conference, the European Union and the United Nations to "put in place a mechanism for consultation and concerted action" to resolve the Libyan crisis.
The AU committee on Libya is composed of five African heads of state. But the Nouakchott meeting was only attended by the presidents of Mauritania, Mali and Congo. South Africa and Uganda were represented by ministers.

The declaration said its authors felt inspired by Kadhafi's "vision for a strong and united Africa."
"The AU as an organisation has benefited significantly from Kadhafi's wealth," said Fred Golooba Mutebi of the Institute of Social Research at Kampala's Makerere University.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/libyaunrestmilitaryafricanunion

The African Union should demand an "immediate halt" of the Somalian pirates and the atrocities taking place
in most of their Countries, what a joke, "African Union".
Tell them to go @#$% themselves!

The African Union's panel on Libya Sunday called for an "immediate stop" to all attacks after the United States,
France and Britain launched military action against Moamer Kadhafi's forces.

It underscored the need for "necessary political reforms to eliminate the causes of the present crisis" but at the same time called for "restraint" from the international community to avoid "serious humanitarian consequences."
The panel also announced a meeting in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa on March 25, along with representatives from the Arab League, the Organisation of Islamic Conference, the European Union and the United Nations to "put in place a mechanism for consultation and concerted action" to resolve the Libyan crisis.
The AU committee on Libya is composed of five African heads of state. But the Nouakchott meeting was only attended by the presidents of Mauritania, Mali and Congo. South Africa and Uganda were represented by ministers.

The declaration said its authors felt inspired by Kadhafi's "vision for a strong and united Africa."
"The AU as an organisation has benefited significantly from Kadhafi's wealth," said Fred Golooba Mutebi of the Institute of Social Research at Kampala's Makerere University.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/libyaunrestmilitaryafricanunion

The African Union should demand an "immediate halt" of the Somalian pirates and the atrocities taking place
in most of their Countries, what a joke, "African Union".
Tell them to go @#$% themselves!

Common sense

QUESTION: . ,
Issue of Doctor's strike in lagos. Is it an issue of health for Nigerians ,  or an anomaly that ACN has a better plan for the Federation?
RIBADU (ANSWER)
It is an indication of democracy working, lagos state is a bad example for you to use cos it is the best performing state in the federation today.
I just visited a patient in a hospital in Ikeja and what I found there was amazing, incredible, i thought I was not in Nigeria.
Modern equipment that I saw there, the quality of the infrastructure was world class, and I congratulated fashola when I saw him.
Issue of Industrial action is something you cannot avoid when you are in government. the ability to address it and come out with a solution
is what matters, i believe they are going to solve their own problems,
APPLAUSE
the issue of health which I believe Health is wealth. ACN will be the best team you can get. We will rehabilitate the whole health care sector.
We are going to setup  6 specialize hospital across the country. Reason: Any little thing that has to do with kidney, heart, cancer you have to go outside the country.
Across the 6 geo political zonewe will create special hospitals.

HOW WILL YOU TACKLE CORRUPTION WITHOUT CREATING SOCIAL UNREST IN THE COUNTRY
BUHARI - (ANSWER)
The bottom line of Nigerian politics is indiscipline and corruption, and from the constitution itself and down to all the financial
regulations. All the rules and regulations are there, it is a matter of implementation. I think the problem is that anybody will
take Nigerians for granted at their own risk.
You can't be head of a department, a chief executive and steal public funds and think you can control those below you.
Nigerians will not agree,
APPLAUSE
I promise to be accountable to Nigerians and I will make sure all all those people you voted from councillor to
the office of the president will be accountable.
And the public treasury is a trust and nobody can tamper with it and get away with it.
APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE

RIBADU - (ANSWER)
I will take it from what my respected general has just said. Sir, Nigerians are not corrupt. Nigerians are not
indisciplined. that is where we make the mistake. The system and the protocols make Nigerians corrupt.
(shouts from guest - No, No, No, No, No)

Moderator: Excuse me, please can we please respect the people in the podium,
We are here to have a conversation, hopefully we will enlighten ourselves.
I must insist on a little silence or I will give him more time

SILENCE

RIBADU (Cont)
The same Nigerians we had in the 50s, 60s are the same Nigerians we have today. Nothing has changed
we do not have any other set of people. We are the Nigerians and we are fundamentally good people.
There is nothing wrong with us. Somewhere along the line we got it wrong as a result
of poor, incompetent mismanagement of those people in charge of our affair.
APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE
They are the ones who caused this problem.
If we continue to believe that, our people are indisciplined, our people are corrupt,
It is like saying when you have a shoe that is biting your leg, you must take the foot off.
(MODERATOR: I am afraid you have to stop, )
RIBADU continues,
(MODERATOR: Please Ribadu, you have to stop, you will get a chance in your closing statement.
RIBADU STOPS.

BUHARI'S CLOSING STATEMENT
Fellow Nigerians, you need a leadership that you can trust, that will lead this country for the next 4 years.
We know the situation we are in now, you know the situation we are headin to if we follow the advise
President Obama said when he visited Ghana. He said that developing countries need strong institutions
rather than strong personalities.
In Nigeria we need both, we need strong people to resuscitate the institutions and make them strong
APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE
Thank you very much,
(MODERATOR: General  Buhari you have got a min left do you want to use it.
BUHARI(contd)
What I am saying is that this multi party democracy has given Nigerians the power to choose their
leadership and change them at will. So it is up to them to have the courage to choose people
and ensure that their votes count.
When we say people should go and register, which we hope they have, they should go and vote.
And make sure that their votes count. Then they give the opportunity for whatever leadership
they have chosen to perform or not to perform,