₦airaland Forum

Ymodulus:
^^^ now what are you trying to say with all those long stories. Your username tells me you yoruba, i think i dont have time to waste listening to you.

What he did to you must have been too bad, the Yoruba man who turned you to this. . .

thanks plenty!

Quote from: Dede1 on Yesterday at 08:11:49 PM

Of course, he was front and center as a local tribal bigot. By the way, Awo was my favorite political operative of his era.

No ooo, i think Awo was a bigger tribalist than M.K.O

Eziachi:
Maybe your Itshekiri father forgot to tell you that your grandfather and those Igbos, Yorubas etc you are quoting pays their taxes in Lagos and it was their money from their taxes that was used in whatever you think they benefitted from, not from Chief Awolowos pocket or generosity.
Mind you chief Awo was paid handseomely for doing his works, as far as I know his parents were poor peasants before he came into public life, so public service rewarded him immensely.
Now who is the most beneficiary? Your grandparents or him?

although am not a fan of Awo, i think ur argument is a dumb one. Awo worked his way up the political ladder and his intellectualism brought about all the development u'r talking about. . .and that makes him deserving of the honours bestowed on him.

azharuddin:
. When he died, his wife was pregnant and soon gave birth to a son. When the boy grew older, his mother took him to a teacher who taught him to recite "Bismillah Al-Rahman Al-Raheem" and I felt that it would not be justice that this man's son was calling My Name and I was punishing his father in the grave.

This is a reason why anyone should marry a pious woman!

I believe true love exists . . . I see it quite often. . .and am going to find mine!

Law prince:
Salaam brothers.
I do not think this is the right forum and the right time we Muslims try to fight the faults in our various creeds.
I wish the dear brother that started this thread should try and change the topic because we have more greater challenges facing we Muslims in this era than all these. I belief that irrespective of our sect, there is something binding us together. And that is the Belief in Allaah as our God and Muhammad as the final messenger. This is the basic thing a Muslim needs to be called a believer.
Though as Muslims, we do not fold our arms and watch some people going around spreading an improper version of the deen. But everything has got a proper time and a proper way of doing it.
Don't you also know that the naughty person enemies of Islaam are taking a great opportunity of our exposed and applauded divisions to cause a more greater havoc to innocent Muslim souls?
So the issue of Sunni or Shi'a shouldn't be proudly flaunted in a non-secluded form like Nairaland coz we've gotten enough enemies watching.
Fi Amaanillaah

With this, i rest my case.It is obvious they joined nairaland only to cause chaos. It is better not to have their time.

ShiaMuslim:
in this regards of bringing the fact to light,i am also aware that there is alot of misinformation among sunni muslims regarding their shia muslim brothers.as sunnis,i would like to know from you what you know about shia islam,the Ahlul-Bayt (as),Imam Hussain(as) and the battle of karbala,or what would you like to know?

if there is any shia in the forum,it would also be a pleasure to have him contribute.

Bi Amanillah!!!

Islam is One and anyone calling towards sectarianism is just a trouble maker to me. Why dont you just open threads discussing this issues, rather than attaching unnecessary importance to say, Imam Hussain and the battle of Karbala. Is Imam Hussain the 1st Imam in Islam, or is the battle the only one fought in Islam or the most important?

If you really as a starter wants to educate us about Islam, u can start with tawheed, explaining its forms and importance to us as Muslims and not about some infamous battle or a particular Imam

ShiaMuslim:
Salam dear brothers and sisters in Islam,

i found this forum and i was disgusted to read the rude posts made against islam and our beloeved Prophet (sa) in the other religion forum.i therefore joined to defend islam and the Prophet (sa) against the rude talk and baseless lies.

U're welcome.But, as u must have seen, so many others have been defending Islam on this forum and yours is just an added advantage.

Romeo4real:
So much vitriol being spewed out here? This was not meant to be a male bashing thread. A quick search on NL will quickly show (for those living on Mars) that Men and Women are both to blame for marriage breakups. And back to the subject of cheating, research after research have show women to be only marginally better than men - 55% of women cheat, as opposed 60% of married men - and this was a study done in 2002!

No matter how rehashed the question is, it is still a valid one. In fat, it is so valid that it underpins the whole of society today. Broken homes DO lead to broken societies.

Back to the OP's question - Being a "good" is just one of the components need to keep your marriage; For starters, you would have to marry the "right" person; one who can appreciate your "goodness". Also, the "goodness" cannot be defined by you, as it would always be prejudiced.
The same way being a "good" husband is certainly no guarantee of keeping your wife happy. All you can do is do what you SHOULD do (NOT your best), and leave the rest to God.

EHhhhhhhhh, dont even bring that here. That survey am sure was not caried out inNigeria and is so not applicable here.

Why dont you just be a good wife because it is the right thing to be and let God reward you for that!

and Oh yh! be prayerful as well so u can reap the wordly benefit of being good. . .

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=550248.msg7137029#msg7137029 date=1289671017]during his time,there was no one like him ![/quote]u're right!

afam4eva:
Is he the only philantropist in Nigeria?

That he was a philanthropist is just among other things.And BTW, that is my own opinion as to why he would deserve such an honor.

Ymodulus:
^^are you ok. How is the news a problem.

u seem to be so deep into increasing ur no of posts that when you have nothing constructive to say, u just insult people

Diplomacy is all that is needed in this and Nigeria has taken the right step but the naivety of Nigerians and their cynical approach to anything done by the government always overclouds their judgment.


Attitudinal change is still very much needed for a better Nigeria.

afam4eva:
By the way why was that stadium in Abeokuta named after Moshood Abiola. What exactly has he done for the south-west. Is it because he won an election that was nullified?

Abiola was a philanthropist. He gave people hope and that is something on its own. You can also add that he gave Nigeria a good representation in d international community-he was international man of the year twice

afam4eva:
That liberty stadium is one of the worst in Nigeria. So i don't think Awolowo deserves such poo hole. Unfortunately Awolowo is not the kind of person you can name a gigantic edifice after if this edific is not in the south-west. That's what makes people like Azikiwe, herbert Macauley different. They were more national leaders than Awolowo was. Maybe they should have named the Teslim balogun stadium after him.

He could just av provided that edifice or cld av askd his backside, Akala to do that and then come forward to open it in Awo's name and that would av made so much sense and gotten him the genuine support he craves from the people

We always like them when they're newly in position. I used to vouch for GEJ until he started all the bullshit he's in.

We can only pray Fayemi doesn't change course.

Nigeria is so unlucky with this GEj ooooo. Liberty stadium is in a state u shldnt even try writing home about, and he names it after Awolowo. . .and for what?

He doesnt seem to have intellectuals around him, but i get the point.

Does he think many Yoruba people think Awolowo these days? or is he not just o.k with the multitude of votes Akala can get him courtesy of his danfo driving brothers?. . .

Am sooooooooooo embarassed.

This guy is surely not getting my vote!

I fear for my country oooooooo

@ niyi53, could you please explain this for i dont understand what it means:

Islam allows for relaxation of the requirement.

3. Hijab’s Integrative Role

Finally, Mr. Straw wrongly assumes that prohibiting hijab will somehow improve integration and social cohesion. Other nations have attempted to improve integration by banning the veil. France outlawed headscarves in public schools. Turkey outlawed the wearing of the veil in public places. By most assessments, such efforts at “integration” have had little success.

In France, for example, recent rioting is a clear indicator that Muslims continue to feel alienated and disaffected. The reason is obvious. The veil has nothing to do with integration. The real barriers to integration are poverty and unemployment. For example, in the United Kingdom two-thirds of children of families of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin are growing up in poverty. More than 20 percent of all Muslim youths between 16 and 24 are unemployed. Muslim women practicing hijab have nothing to do with these sobering statistics.

Moreover, at a micro level, hijab does not prevent communication. Technological advances have made it easier for society to communicate virtually without “face-to-face” dialogue. The face has never been the only essential tool for effective communications.

Prime Minister Blair can be effective communicating to the British public over the radio just as he can in person. A Muslim woman can be effective communicating with others even with her face covered. Quite obviously, it is the substance of what is said that counts more than the appearance of who said it. In addition, efforts at integration should not come at the expense of restricting the fundamental human right of religious freedom. Essential to successful integration in a democratic society is the enmeshing of divergent religious cultures and traditions.

Forcing a Muslim woman to “unveil” is thus a self-defeating measure. Not only does such a measure violate a Muslim woman’s fundamental human right, it also prevents Western society from understanding, and perhaps even integrating, Islamic traditions.

Conclusion

At their core, Mr. Straw’s remarks concerning hijab in Islam reflect an entirely flawed and ultimately dangerous understanding of true Islamic teachings. Mr. Straw wrongly assumes that hijab is foreign to the West, inhibits the freedom and equality of Muslim women, and thwarts the integration of Muslims in Western society. In actuality, hijab has deep roots and ensures true freedom and equality for women. Moreover, far
from thwarting efforts at integration in Western society, hijab can potentially benefit Western society.

2. Hijab’s Liberating and Equalizing Force

Second, Mr. Straw wrongly assumes that hijab inhibits freedom and equality of Muslim women. As an initial matter, the view that hijab inhibits freedom and equality arguably is a reaction to the original Biblical explanation concerning the same. St. Paul teaches:
         
 “A man indeed ought not to cover his head, because he is the image and glory of God.
            But woman is the glory of man. For man was not created for woman, but woman for man.
            This is why the woman ought to have a sign of authority over her head, because of the
            angels.” (1 Corinthians, 11:7-10)

Thus, according to St. Paul the veil is a sign of man’s authority over her. A veiled Christian woman is pious only in so far as she accepts her inferior role to man. Perhaps owing to this explanation, many in the West view the veil as a symbol of inferiority, subservience, and degradation. But the Islamic rationale for hijab is entirely at odds with this prevailing stigma. In Islam hijab signifies modesty and is a means of protection. A multitude of Quranic references attest to a woman’s equality to man. For example, the Qur’an unequivocally explains that men and women belong to the same species and possess identical aptitudes and propensities.

The requirement of hijab is not intended to imprison a woman or render her susceptible to male dominance. Rather, it is intended to enhance her God given faculties.

In Islam, faith is premised on the belief that God created men and women for a lofty purpose, namely establishing peace in society. Since a peaceful home is the basic unit of a peaceful society, Islam seeks to protect marital harmony by promoting modesty.

In the United States, nearly 40% of all marriages end in divorce, half of which end due to extra- marital affairs. As a precaution, the Qur’an enjoins women to draw their head coverings over their bosoms when in the presence of men outside of the family:
       
         “And say to the believing women that they restrain their looks and guard their private
             parts and that they display not their beauty or their embellishment except that which is
               apparent, thereof, and that they draw their head coverings over their bosoms, and that
                 they display not their beauty or their embellishment save to their husbands…” (24:32)

The injunction concerning hijab is an obligation not limited to women but refers to men as well; hijab only assumes a different form:
   
       “Say to the believing men that they restrain their looks and guard their private parts.
          That is purer for them. Surely, Allah is well-aware of what they do.” (24:31)

Yet another purpose of hijab is to protect women from unwarranted harm. In the West, often there is a casual willingness to dehumanize women by seeing them first and foremost as sexual objects. A staggering US $57 billion worldwide is generated by indecency. This is more than the combined revenues of all U.S. professional football, baseball and basketball franchises and exceeds the combined revenues of ABC, CBS, and NBC television stations. The pernicious consequences of such sexual degradation are well known. In the United States alone, one out of every three women has been the victim of physical and sexual abuse, and a woman is despoiled every two and a half minutes.
Because women are vulnerable to exploitation and abuse, Islam advises them to take their protection into their own hands:
       
        “[T]hey should pull down upon them their outer cloaks from their heads over their faces.
         That is more likely that they may thus be recognized and not molested. And Allah is Most
          Forgiving, Merciful.” (33:60)

Thus, hijab is a physically manifested barrier to unwarranted harassment. It is not a disgrace or a hindrance for a woman; on the contrary, it honors her and frees her from the bondage of society and the obstacles that prevent her intellectual, moral, and spiritual advancement. Indeed, by electing to safeguard herself and her virtues, a woman protects society from social evils such as adultery, spread of disease, children born out of wedlock, despoil, and divorce.

A woman does not have to rely on her physical beauty or dress in order to contribute to society. Her character defines the peace, prosperity, and progress of a nation. This is why the Prophet of Islam emphasized the importance of religious and worldly education for both men and women; indeed, education is one of the basic elements of a progressive society. According to Islam, women have the power to eliminate suffering wherever they tread, and the liberating force of hijab makes them the architects of the fate of future generations. Indeed, the true Muslim woman is neither the exploited woman of the West nor the stymied woman in totalitarian Arab regimes.

Mr. Straw also neglects the fact that Islam itself safeguards against a harsh and irrational application of hijab. There is no law in Islam that punishes a woman from not abiding by hijab. Hijab’s fundamental aim is to protect a Muslim woman and to provide her greater liberty to participate in society. Where hijab fails to achieve this aim, Islam allows for relaxation of the requirement.

In particular, Mr. Straw and his supporters makes several faulty assumptions:

(1) hijab is a peculiar Islamic construct(culture?) inimical to Western culture and society; (2) hijab inhibits the freedom and equality of Muslim women in the West; and (3) hijab thwarts integration of Muslims in the West.

We address each assumption in turn.

1. Hijab’s Deep Roots

First, Mr. Straw wrongly assumes that hijab is unique to Islam and foreign to the West. Notwithstanding Islam’s distinctive teachings concerning hijab, the wearing of a veil is not unique to Islam.

The veil can be traced back to 13th Century B.C. in ancient Assyria (Mesopotamia). At that time, wearing the veil was a mark of social class and not
religion. The law required all Assyrian women except love-peddlers to cover their heads in public.

Similarly, ancient Greek and Roman artifacts suggest that wearing a veil was not an uncommon practice. Although the veil’s significance in Greek and Roman society is unclear, its custom cannot be discounted.

Beginning with Judaism, wearing a veil took on religious significance. It was a symbol of propriety and modesty. Jewish women would cover their heads in public in observance of Jewish law. 13 Jeremias commented: “When the Jewess of Jerusalem left her house, her face was hidden, so that her features could not be recognized.” A Jewishwoman’s failure to cover her head during the Tannaitic period was “considered an affront to her modesty. ”The veil elevated a woman’s high status in Jewish society. Today some orthodox Jewish women still practice traditional Jewish teachings by wearing
scarves or wigs.

Similarly, the Bible taught the wearing of a veil long before Islam. In the Old Testament we read:
“When Re-bek'ah raised her eyes, she caught sight of Isaac and she swung herself down
from off the camel. Then she said to the servant 'who is that walking in the field to meet
us?' and the servant said 'It is my master' And she proceeded to take a head cloth and to
cover herself.” (Genesis: 24:64-65)
In the New Testament we read:“But every woman that prays or prophesies with her head uncovered shames her head for it is one and the same as if she were a (woman) with a shaved head. For if a woman does not cover herself let her also be shorn; but if it is disgraceful for woman to be shorn
or shaved, let her be covered.” (1 Corinthians: 11: 5-6)

As explained from these verses, the Bible treats the wearing of a veil as an inherently righteous undertaking. The Virgin Mary is often depicted in works of art with her head covered. In fact, for a time it was obligatory upon Catholic women to don a headscarf while attending church service. Today, Christian nuns and Amish women continue to cover their heads.

Finally, traditional Hindu women also wear head coverings while in the company of men, further highlighting that hijab is not exclusive to Islam. Sometimes veiling is accomplished with a loose end of the woman’s sari, and sometimes it is done with a scarf- like fabric.

Thus, hijab must be understood in the context of the veil’s cultural and religious roots.

Assessing British MP Jack Straw’s Comments Concerning Hijab In Islam, Majlis Sultan-ul-Qalam, USA and Lajna Imaillah Media Watch, USA
December 2006

On October 6, 2006, in the wake of the suspension of a full- face veiled teaching assistant in the United Kingdom, former British Foreign Secretary
and current leader of the House of Commons Jack Straw made controversial remarks about the Islamic tradition of hijab or “covering.”

1. Specifically, Mr. Straw wrote in the Lancashire Telegraph that Muslim women should remove their niqabs when visiting him because he “felt
uncomfortable about talking to someone ‘face to face’ who [he] could not see.”

2. The niqab, he claims, is a “visible statement of separation and of difference” that is “bound to make better, positive relations between the two communities more difficult"

3.While he did not condone any law or formal prescription banning hijab in the United Kingdom, Mr. Straw said that he would rather hijab (and not just the niqab) be abolished all together.

4.Mr. Straw’s comments have since plunged the United Kingdom – and indeed much of Europe – into a debate over Islamic integration. Notable European political leaders have supported Mr. Straw’s comments. British Prime Minister Tony Blair echoed Mr. Straw’s sentiments, calling hijab “a mark of separation” that “makes other people from outside the Muslim community feel uncomfortable.”

5. Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi agreed with Mr. Straw remarking, “You can’t cover your face. [Muslim women] can’t be hidden.”

6. The Dutch Government has gone so far as to propose legislation banning outright the wearing of the niqab in public places, and Dutch Immigration Minister, Rita Verdonk, has signaled the imminent end of hijab altogether in The Netherlands.

7.However well intentioned Mr. Straw’s comments were, they exhibit a fundamental lack of knowledge of Islamic traditions, the role of women and the function of hijab

that's when the alarm rings.

@Niyi53
your post is educative and quite long. I'd like to break it into parts to make it easier to read. I hope u dont mind

The lives of the patients should be more Important. But, the government should also av bn more responsive.


Just imagine what it takes to go through med. schl, not forgettn d expenses only to earn a meager? where as politicians wv primary schl cert. and a very bad command of Eng. earn much more than that!

zubeyr:
you will get my point when you further your knowledge in Deen and get better understanding of Koran and hadith

so, dat just made u d knowledgeable one.ughn?  i really shake my head for you.

All u need do is explain your self Mr.

chakula:
These are the most beautiful and lovely chapters as well as verse(s) in the holy Qur’an that i would have like to recite and used in my mid-night prayer.

niiiiiiiiiiiice

Those who make their money through nepotism dont see themselves as corrupt and neither do i. But a fair playing ground should be provided for i all.

juman:
As you stated that you are for marriage, I will advice your boyfriend to go for muslim lady to marry not to complicate his life except that you will convert to islam. If you still want to continue as a christian you should also go for christian guy.
Its allowed in Islam for a guy to marry christian lady, but that time muslim ladies are not many enough. Well the rule still stand, but you should remember that your family probably may not like you marry a muslim man. Likewise the family of your boyfriend may not like him marry a christian. So there will be friction. So in order to avoid unnecessary pressure in your life, go for somebody of your religion that your parents will accept. Well this is my opinion.

I think your opinion is a good one. Many families are torn apart because of religion.

A girl at my sister's arabic school used to be seen at a church and when asked why she said her mum was christian and would take her to church whenever her dad was away. My sister then told her to tell her dad about it. Her reply was that she'd told her dad severally and the dad told the mum he was going to divorce her if she ever did that again. But, she was seen in the church cos her mother threatened to throw her into a well if she ever told her dad about it again.

The girl was torn between being thrown into a well and her parents' divorce and she wanted neither.