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nedu666:
The way tinubu and inec are behaving, it's like they are forgetting that they are setting a dangerous example for future presidents. Can the south West stomach all these if another president does it. God help Nigeria if tinubu hands over to another president with this especially if his from north

The position of the INEC chairman is not reserved for the Fulani north and Muslims. They should cry blood, Amupitan will not resign. And yes, the next president will come from the North Central and will be Christian too.

TossTos:
Make them keep sending it , hopefully Obi will move to another party if he fails to win the primary.. Because Atiku is winning but PBAT is the winner

I'm not sure moving to another party after the primaries is possible again with the new electoral law.

Let me go and register to vote for Peter Obi. He must be the flag bearer of ADC next year. I want to check something.

Chairman of the bottlers h@ters association have arrived...

Lukuluku69:
God is the Creator of ALL metaphorically He is FATHER to ALL. But "Fathehood in the sense of the animal conception is not good thinking and subject to misinterpretation from mortals.

God "begat" som other people in your Bible too.

As for those who calll their Leaders with special names and those who call their Pastors " Father" they fo against the very teaching of Jesus when he said >>>>>>>>> Matthew 23:9, "And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven," is a teaching where Jesus warns against hypocritical

Spend more of your time to correct this amongst your brethren.

Don't worry about us, we'll continue to expose the so-called men of God playing god to their congregations, but I want you to know that Allah is not a Father in any sense, not even remotely metaphorically. You can not believe that and be Muslim. You're committing shirk right now and Allah is not happy with you for calling him a father.

Awoleesu:
I don't understand Kperoogi's mathematics here:

Kwara Central - 38%
Kwara South -30%
Kwara North - 75%?!
Total. - 143!
Are we still talking about "percentage"?


Meanwhile, who's interest is Farouq projecting?
Guy's already getting his hands creamed by some political idiots huh?

Kperoogi, beware lest you're dragged in the mud!

Leave the werey. Kwara South has 7 local governments (that's about 50% of 16), but the dunce wants us to believe Kwara north is more populated.

Lukuluku69:
But Christ says >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Matthew 23:9, "And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven," is a teaching where Jesus warns against hypocritical, prideful, or absolute spiritual authority. It emphasizes that God is the ultimate source of all fatherhood and authority.

Anyone who sees this one would think he believes in the fatherhood of God Almighty.
It's people that call their religious leaders Pope, Papa, Father, Reverend and General Overseer titles that should only be reserved for God in religious context) that I blame.

adenigga:
Source: https://punchng.com/adeboye-kumuyi-olukoya-are-denominational-heads-not-fathers-of-nigerian-church-cleric-says

“Christianity in Nigeria has no fathers. One young man was speaking intensely, saying Enoch Adeboye and David Oyedepo should speak out, and I asked myself, are these the fathers of Christianity in Nigeria? These are denominational leaders. Christianity in Nigeria has no father. A… pic.twitter.com/69194nVJ37

— 𝐀𝐬𝐚𝐤𝐲𝐆𝐑𝐍 (@AsakyGRN) April 18, 2026

Why would any pastor even assume a fatherly role when he's not God? We have only one father and He's God Almighty. Stop making gods out of these charlatans.

saintbillion:
How do u receive good news with such wall paper?

See them. Knowing the president of the most populous black nation is not good news.
Oga, the day you know Tinubu on a moderate level is the day your sufferings ends. I know it's suffering that's making you people mad, but no government solves personal problems. Making enough money to be comfortable enough is down to individual capacity. Nothing will still change that if your favorite person is the president. Know that and know peace.

The wallpaper is to trigger people anyways. I don't use people's pictures as my wallpaper.

Donbabaj:
Na Banter make person they forge document and impersonating online. VDM called him a fraudster and provided evidence when he went to China saying that why would someone unnecessarily inflate price outrageously and that was why the Igbo community who are importers started ganging up against VDM and are supporting B-Lord till today. I can tell you that Importers of goods are one of the major problems of prices of goods in the country.

I know of a guy who Import cars (cost all inclusive with import duty is say N20million) and sells for N45million. Haba na!

Why have you or VDM not started the business and sell at half the price if truly they're making outrageous profits?

Lukuluku69:
Now that you want to even agree with me that Deuteronomy 18:18 is about Jesus as your cousin claimed, my next question is this: Do you consider Jesus also a Prophet then? I know he is a son of God according to you, and also God Himself according to some other cousins of yours?

He is God, he is son of God, he is the father and also the son of the father and he is also a prophet! 😁😁😁😁

I am not against Jesus of Nazareth. I am only saying he is not God, nor His son but a True Prophet of God. That is the middle ground for there is only ONE GOD as taught by Jesus himself in the following verse>>>> Mark 12:29 (KJV) And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

And just so you know, there as never been another Prophet in Israel like Moses! Jehovah Himself attested to that fact! Read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deuteronomy 34:10-12 (KJV) And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,
In all the signs and the wonders, which the LORD sent him to do in the land of Egypt to Pharaoh, and to all his servants, and to all his land,
And in all that mighty hand, and in all the great terror which Moses shewed in the sight of all Israel.

As for the worshipping of a Blackstone you referenced, and the Kaaba in Mecca, there are references of it in the bible you have been reading all your adult life! Read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isaiah 60:7 (KJV) All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory.

Brother, who is a prophet and how is it impossible for the only begotten son of God to be a prophet? Was he not sent by his father? Matthew 21:33–46 is a reference for you to see the fact that God not only sent men like us, he also sent his son when everything else failed. The verses above came directly from Jesus.
Isa of Quran is not Jesus Christ. You either for Jesus by following his teachings or you're not. He didn't give you any other options and there's no a Muslim can be for Jesus because the teachings of Islam is an attack on his divinity.

As for the Blackstone, it's what it is, idol worship. Nothing in the Bible talks about worshipping a stone or praying towards any alter. If you're in doubt, read this: Leviticus 26:1 "Do not make idols… and do not set up a sacred stone for yourselves to bow down to it".

There's no prophet like Moses? And which book is that? Deuteronomy. Yes, the same book whose chapter 18 you're quoting. Quote my an equivalent verse from books written later. Shebi Isaiah, Elijah are a joke to you abi?

brightDdon:
Mind where you enter with this your phone homepage

You can't see me anywhere near miscreants.

Obidients favorite politician.

Lukuluku69:
I know you lots lie a lot.

Take Time out and read this very thread and see your Christian cousin opinions when Deuteronomy 18:18 was referenced.

Read your cousin response >>>>>>>>>>>

So I was looking for where "my cousin" said Deut. 18:18 is about Jesus?
There are dozens of prophets after Moses that are like him, so I don't understand how this verse or my cousin's screenshot is referencing Jesus.
Let me even agree with you that this is about Jesus, how does it negates the fact that Jesus is the son of God?
How does it go against this verse here:

Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a child is born… and he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God…

Or this one:

Isaiah 7:14
KJV: Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel (GOD WITH US).

Jesus said there's no other way to God than through him. He called God his father and sees himself as the only way of salvation.

John 14:6 in the Gospel of John

I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

So my friend, it's either you're for Jesus or against him. There's no middle ground. You can't claim to love him and follow Momo and worship blackstone in mecca.
He's the way, truth and life. THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO GOD.
So bros, why are you worshipping a blackstone and respecting a false version of the true Messiah, the one you call isah?

Dbegining:
Bro, these guys are stubborn!

They want to associate themselves with the Bible by all means in order to get validation!

Worst part, they have no evidence. Just saying what they feel like, giving scriptures they don't even understand.

Honestly, arguing with those people can reduce your IQ drastically. Imagine someone quoting a verse in the first chapter of the Paul's letter to the Romans as a proof that Jesus is not the son of God? I mean, reference to Jesus as God's son is littered everywhere in that chapter. Truly, they don't read (same way they know nothing about their Quran) and counting on you not to check the unrelated verses they're dropping.

Layi4real:
imagine listen to ursef. let put religion aside and be logical if you claim the creator has a son then who is the creator wife that gave birth to the son? what make such a God difference from the greek gods? God is beyond having wife son or any attachments because he all powerful he neither begget nor is born, he has no beginning Nd has no end. he is everlasting. Why will God in his mighty stoop so low to come down on earth. To proof what exactly? is he not the one in command thousands of years before the birth of jesus. And if he comes down to Earth in human form what has he coming achieved different from pre jesus era. The world is still in a mess. he can't even control the Isrealis where he was born that they had to beat tortured him Nd killed him.... all this are insult to the creator walahi. nobody dare touches God in any form. Even without telling u it's very sensible to know that Jesus is a man like me Nd u sent down from God to guide us to the right path. If he had explicitly said it anywhere that he is God worship me then the story might be different but he did not. if u justify him to be God by quoting some verses that my father and I are one the what about those verses that said " for my Father is greater than I " “Worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only.” “…not as I will, but as You will.” This shows a distinction between his will and God’s will. John 17:3“…that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.”

In nutshell the story of Muslims jesus is more reasonable as he is very respected Nd revered in the holy Qur'an just like the other prophets. Jesus birth is devine but he was born without a father but don't forget that Adam didn't even have both father and mother and that does not make him God. God is only proving his power that only him can create without father without both parents. he even created Eve from a man without woman.

You're not paying attention. Our God is self-sufficient. He doesn't need a wife to have a Son. Please face your barren Allah.

Lukuluku69:
Christain brain, follow the arguments. You lots believe Jesus was not a Prophet yet wen Duet.18:18 is quoted, you are quick to claim it for your man god.

Duet. 21:23 is the solid ground the Jews will continue to reject your man god.

Read it slowly and play back what was written for your man god at Calvary.

I don't remember any Christian claiming that verse is in reference to the Messiah. It's you Muslims that claim it's talking about Momo. You can argue that nonsense with Zakir Naik, because it's your people that are looking for Momo inside the Bible and that's one of your favorite ones.

Layi4real:
at the End Jesus have a mother i.e Mary Nd a father God while Mary is already married to Joseph. If Joseph who is the legal husband of Mary is not the father of Jisus then jisus is a bastard. God do not gave birth he rather creates just like he created Adam from dust Nd created Eve from Adam And created jesus from Mary. God has no son because God isn't a man.

It still amaze me that some people can believe a man born out of woman womb just like them can be called God Nd be worship. European people have actually brainwashed u guys. But to my surprise the Christians should be smarter than Muslim normally because they are mostly exposed to western education than Muslim which I believe it should give them advantage to reason logically.

You can say whatever you want. It is what it is. Jesus was never born through sex. You can argue that nonsense with your Quran, because even the Quran got that fact right (a broken clock is right twice a day, ain't it?).
And according to your own Quran, it was only Jesus that's sinless, did only what your Allah could do? I mean, why are we even having this conversation?

Layi4real:
u are saying absolutely nonsense. in islam all Muslims are brothers and sisters of one another. go and check the tefsir of that verse.

So how is Mary mother of Jesus the sister of Aaron, brother? And your Quran still went ahead and mentioned that the name of this woman in question is Imran, which happened to be the name of the father of Aaron and Miriam, but you still insist it's talking about a Mary that's 1400 years younger? You need help.

Layi4real:
Romans 1:25 “They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator…” Jesus was created just like me Nd you to these world and die. Jesus wasn't the first powerful being to exist in this world. come to Yoruba history you will hear some legend that didn't even die but turn into stone or enter the ground to show u there are powerful people everywhere yet they are not called God e.g Orunmila, Sango, Obatala.

Jesus himself directs worship to God. Matthew 4:10 “Worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only.”

Arguing scriptures with a Muslim can reduce one's IQ. Guy, is everything OK? Did you even read the verses you dropped here at all? I doubt it! You're quoting the letter of Paul to the Romans to prove Jesus is not the son of God? Seriously? The opening verses of the Romans is full of references to Jesus Christ being the son of God. How does this verse even help your case?

Romans 1:9
KJV: For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;

This is beginning of the chapter where the devil is tempting Jesus. Even the devil knows this fact, except Muslims.

Matthew 4:6
KJV: And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

This is Jesus response to the above:

Matthew 4:7
KJV: Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

It's good you even referenced sango and the likes. I'm Yoruba, and sango, ogun, oya and the likes are gods. Yes, they receive worship from people. Or what do think Orisa means in Yoruba? See this one o. Do you know the powers that ogun, sango and esu has is far more potent than the stone you worship in mecca?

Layi4real:
imagine listen to ursef. let put religion aside and be logical if you claim the creator has a son then who is the creator wife that gave birth to the son? what make such a God difference from the greek gods? God is beyond having wife son or any attachments because he all powerful he neither begget nor is born, he has no beginning Nd has no end. he is everlasting. Why will God in his mighty stoop so low to come down on earth. To proof what exactly? is he not the one in command thousands of years before the birth of jesus. And if he comes down to Earth in human form what has he coming achieved different from pre jesus era. The world is still in a mess. he can't even control the Isrealis where he was born that they had to beat tortured him Nd killed him.... all this are insult to the creator walahi. nobody dare touches God in any form. Even without telling u it's very sensible to know that Jesus is a man like me Nd u sent down from God to guide us to the right path. If he had explicitly said it anywhere that he is God worship me then the story might be different but he did not. if u justify him to be God by quoting some verses that my father and I are one the what about those verses that said " for my Father is greater than I " “Worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only.” “…not as I will, but as You will.” This shows a distinction between his will and God’s will. John 17:3“…that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.”

In nutshell the story of Muslims jesus is more reasonable as he is very respected Nd revered in the holy Qur'an just like the other prophets. Jesus birth is devine but he was born without a father but don't forget that Adam didn't even have both father and mother and that does not make him God. God is only proving his power that only him can create without father without both parents. he even created Eve from a man without woman.

I won't even bother to read the rest of the garbage you poured up there because the opening sentence already assumed the creator of life needed a wife to have a son. Isn't that the same reasoning of Allah being barren? He needs a wife to have a son.
God created Adam from the dust and brought Eve out of Adam. Who is their mother if I should ask you?
Jesus said himself that he came out of the Father which means he's made of the same essence as the Almighty, but your carnal mind is already thinking the Almighty needs to have sex to be able to have a son. Sorry mate, no Christian alive thinks God had Jesus by having a wife.

Layi4real:
There is a whole surah for jesus mother in the Quran suratul mayam. If u say the jesus in Quran is different from that of the bible then u are right bcus there stories are different in some case which make the bible jesus the canterfit.

The Quran refers to Mary, the mother of Jesus, as the "sister of Aaron" (Surah 19:28) and "daughter of Imran" (Surah 66:12). We should throw away the fact that this claim is not only wrong, but also portray Quran as a fabrication of someone who knows next to nothing after the Bible, and believe the word of lone man in a cave over the testimony of thousands of people? It doesn't work like that with Christians. The joke is on you.
By biblical standards, qutham (momo) can't be a prophet and his message would have been rejected. You know why? You need a testimony of another person to authenticate someone's claims. That's why after appearing to Paul on his way to Damascus and blinding him and telling him where to go and who meet, Jesus also went ahead to give a message to another person to serve as a witness for Paul testimony.
Who is witnessing for Momo? Trust me bro religion. I pity you.

Layi4real:
Nd who ever worship his fellow human being is an idol worshippers. all Christians are idol worshippers too.

Which chapter and verse of the Bible are you quoting to defend this one?
Jesus called himself the I AM. I don't think that's the name of a mortal man.

Lukuluku69:
But it was your Jesus the Jews applied it to and they claimed they killed him

Deuteronomy 21:23 (KJV) His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God that thy land be not defiled, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.

Yes na as Deut. 18:18 you referenced is the same as Deut. 21:23.
See Muslim brain.

Lukuluku69:
We will come to the Isaiah you quoted after we finish with Deuteronomy 18:18.

So, who was the Prophet "like unto" Moses that that verse talked about?

Do you know or not?

Has that Priphet come or he is still being awaited?

The only part in Deut. 18:18 that applies to your momo is the one that says any prophet that lies shall die.
I don't even know how Muslims even think this is about Momo. First, he's not a brethren, secondly, he's not in line of prophethood, thirdly, he doesn't even qualify to be called a prophet by the biblical standards.

Layi4real:
Let me remind u that we are speaking English here and not the language of jesus I.e Hebrew or Language of Muhammad i.e Arabic. so me as a Muslim calling prophet Isa as Jesus is very right because that is the English name for it. check it anywhere just like I can call Allah as God too bcus that is the translational word for it. There is nothing like been a trouble maker because both Christians and Muslims borrowed the English language to translate the original text of the holy book for us to understand.
Another thing is that Quran didn't steal from the bible as the Qur'an was revealed to Muhammad directly from God through angel Gabriel. And if u check well the story of Jesus and Mary in the Qur'an is slightly different and more preserved than what is in Ur bible. The Quran version is the perfect and not tampered story of Jesus Nd Mary. The Quran talk about them and other prophet that comes before Jesus as well. so quran did not copy from any book.

Let me school u about bowing to kaabah. Muslims face the kaabah for worship they do not worship the kaabah which u call Blackstone. saying they worship the Blackstone is like u saying the Christians that goes to churches and knelt to the Sculpture of Mary or Jesus are worshipping the bronze or clay used in making the sculpture. The early Christians too has a tradition of facing the he East to worship too. so don't put mouth for wetin Uno understand.

If I think Jesus is not in the Quran goan get Ursef English Quran and see if u won't see Jesus clearly written there.

Oga, any Christian bowing to any image or whatever they call is an idol worshipper. The God we serve explicitly forbid bowing to any image or stone or anything of sort. And of course, Catholics are worshipping the images they bow to. Who in their right sense pray towards an an object and deny it's not a worship? My guy, that blackstone in mecca is your god.

Layi4real:
one thing u should know is that Jesus is not only limited to Christianity. Both Christians and Muslims believe in Jesus but the way we view him are different. if u call it blasphemy that jesus is son of God Muslims too will call it blasphemy calling Jesus God because in our holy book jesus is a messenger of God Nd prophet of God. it's only blasphemy when jesus has nothing to do with Muslim too. but the same can't be say about Christian saying trash about Muhammad bcus u people don't believe in him Nd bliv not to have record of him in Ur scripture.

Isa of the Quran is not the Jesus of the Bible. For God's sake, Quran didn't even get the name of his mother right.

Layi4real:
Did jesus call himself prophet or not? did the bible referred him as prophet or not? the answer is yes.
Jesus did not say those exact words plainly that He is God but He made statements understood as claiming divinity unlike him saying directly he is prophet..... Muslims only call him what he called himself and no Muslims will ever curse any prophet of the book neither will they called them whatever the bible didn't call them. it's the bible that is insulting jesus not the Muslims

I and my Father are one (John 10:30).
Before Abraham was, I AM (John 8:58). That's exactly the name the God we serve wants to be addressed as (Exodus 3:13-14). Why do you think they wanted to stone him in John 8:58? For claiming to be just a prophet?
Since you think you know the Bible, who do you think are the the master, the son and the servants in Matt. 21:33-39 (also in Luke 20:9-19)? The fact that a father sent different prophets and decided to send his own son after the former prophets were unable to accomplish the job doesn't make the son a mere servant. This parable was told by Jesus himself. He doesn't have to say it explicitly that he's more than just a prophet. Apart from fulfilling all prophecies about the coming Messiah, his actions and words agreed with the fact that he's the son of God. He made it clear he's the son of God, so the God he's talking about can never be your Allah because that one only has slaves and needed a wife to have a son.
YHWH is not Allah. You guys should stop associating Islam with the God of the Bible. They're completely different entities. Anyone who has read the Quran and the Bible would know these entities are different persons.

P1PrinceKT:
Do you think a prophet is an ordinary person?
When we say a person is a prophet we don't take him for granted, may be to your own perspective anyone can just wake up and become a prophet.

God is bigger than having a son. Having a son or someone to inherit you is one of the sign of weaknesses a human possess.

Jesus said, before Abraham was, I AM. Emphasis on the "I AM" was the reason they wanted to stone him. He literally called himself YHWH. Oga, the sender can't be the same level with those he sent.

Mirasteel:
True muslims will never insult Jesus, show proof of muslims insulting Jesus or keep quiet.

Jesus is one of the prophet of God so every Muslim respects him just like other prophets before him.

Quran is the greatest insult to Jesus. After it attributes everything only Allah could do to Jesus Christ, it went ahead and call him a mere man.
Only Allah can create, only Allah will judge mankind in the end, according to the Quran. The same Quran recorded Jesus gave life to a clay bird and claimed he'll come back to judge mankind. Such a load of contradiction.