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[quote author=Dudu_Negro]...for Kano ?? who born ibo to go challenge what Hausa choose to do?

Even in markets where every soul is Igbo, Hausa is still the overall authority and lord. They allow Igbo to hold their election and lederships and these leaders in turn are accountable to the Hausa on top who oversees the market.

Same thing with Babaloja in Ladipo. Ibo can elect whoever they want to guide their affaira but those guides are accountable to Babaloja.[/quote]You are inherently moronic and intellectually lazy. It is obvious you are not Hausa or Igbo and can not hawk yourself for better life than the present sorry one. You are so wretched to visit any market in northern region controlled by Ndigbo. Believe me hell will freeze over before you can afford a stall in any village market around Ado Ekiti.

Igbo culture and tradition require that guests in Igbo land be protected and served with hospitality a human being can afford.

Katsumoto: I guess the Queen of England must be powerless since parliament makes the laws. But can you guess how many Prime Ministers have come and gone since Elizabeth became the queen? How many governors were there when Oyekan was king? Did the powers of the political office holders extend beyond their tenures?

The conjectural crap about governors and their tenures is bloodily irrelevant. The idea of Iyaloja or Babaloja in modern markets controlled by modern governments not modeled after a hateful Yoruba tradition is political patronage induced by tribal bigotry.

0monnakoda: Stop foaming at the mouth,dotard.
If you don't like it relocate to HooNewy

I guess only moronic numbskull such as you had difficulties striking a difference between modern governments such as Lagos state or local government council and traditional setup under Oba. In one instance, a drooling ninny in you stated that Iyaloja or Babaloja was LAWFULLY installed by the Local Government and another you thought it was Yoruba tradition. What a jackass.

Katsumoto: Maybe it is your tradition that is useless but there isn't a single part of Yoruba tradition that is useless. A lack of understanding of a host's culture is what breeds conflicts. When others respond to your insensitivity you call them bigots and tribalists, never mind that you created the problem in the first place.

I lived in Lagos and had opportunity to visit certain rural areas in Yoruba land. There were markets and what were regarded as market days guarded by tradition. But do not tell me that markets in Lagos State such Ladipo Market still pay relevant attention to the dictates of such crude tradition.

Katsumoto: You have started dribbling yourself again Dede1, speak clearly and stop this practice of obfuscating.

I spoke perfectly clear on Oba, tradition and modern political institution. The Oba(s) were regarded as tradition but now are virtually unknown in the governance of areas once billed as their domain.

Katsumoto: You aren't making sense - markets by their very nature are meant to profitable ventures. Are you expecting there to be an iyaloja or babaloja on a barren plot of land with no commercial activity.

This is the thing about some of you Igbos, you have no respect or understanding of other's cultures. If it doesn't exist in your culture, then it must be nonsense. Why can't you folks just accept the norms and practices of the places you want to live in without controversy?

Of course, you have unknowingly stumbled onto the truth about so-called IYALOJA or BABALOJA is a hungry political panhandler try to reap where he or she did not plant in name of useless tradition.

bayooooooo: Then stop converting it to "profitable market square". It does not matter what's being converted and who is doing the conversion anyway, what matters is the tradition.

Bloody tradition!! If tradition holds sway in Lagos State, ordinary local government chairperson could not have wielded more power than the Oba(s) talk less of the governor of Lagos State. Get the hell out of here with your tribally biased tradition.

ayswags: dede,which type of warped thinking do u possess,okay the igbos are the landlord while the yorubas are the tenants are u satisfied now

It is the one that have not seen any dirty IYALOJA OR BABALOJA on the numerous open lots in Lagos State until the lots become a profitable market square.

bayooooooo: Then we prove it to you that it's first Yoruba land before it becomes Nigeria. That's why there are customary courts all over Nigeria to adjudicate on matters of tradition. Nigeria does not abolish traditions: where is it written in Nigeria constitution that there should be an Ooni of Ife, or Oba of Lagos or Obi of Onitsha ? No where! But these figures derive their powers from native laws, customs and traditions.

Customary courts my foot!!! There has been no IYALOJA OR BABALOJA in numerous open lots in Lagos State. The moment the lots were converted into profitable market square, the so-called landlords in form of malnourished IYALOJA OR BABALOJA will show up.

software man: YOU MEAN THE TRADITION OF MARKETS HAVING BABALOJA IS DESPICABLE AND INHERENT TRIBALISM? BUT ALL YORUBAS AND HAUSA MARKET S IN LAGOS HAVE IYALOJA OR BABALOJA.
FI RST YOU DID NOT ADDRESS THE FACT MARKETS IN THE NORTH ARE HEADED BY NORTHERNERS BUT YOU ARE TALIKG THAT IGBOS TRADERS HAVE REPRESENTATIVES IN THE GOVERNORS OFFICE . DO YOU KNOW THAT THE LAGOS STATE GOVT ALSO RECOGNISES THE POSITION OF EZE IGBO .
HOW CAN BABALOJA BE TRIBALLY INDUCED SHENNANIGAN WHEN THE TRADITION HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR AGES. ARE WE SUPPOSE TO START CHANGING OUR CULTURES FOR YOU IBOS . CAN YOU TOLERATE THIS KIND OF NONSENSE IN YOUR OWN ENVIRONMENT?
LIKE YOU THIS BABALOJA ISSUE BUTTRESSED THE POINT I HAVE ALWAYS MAIMTAIMED IN THIS FORUM THAT BECAUSE IBO PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE CULTURE THEY CANNOT RESPECT AND APPRECIATE OTHER PEOPLE'S CULTURE. SECONDLY BECAUSE THEY ARE AFFLICTED WITH SEVERE PERSECUTION COMPLEX , THEY SEE TRIBAL VICTIMISATION IN EVERYTHING.

Which Hausa heads market in northern region? Market trader’s association elects its leaders who in turn represent them through the local government up to the state government level in northern region. This tribally biased shenanigan of IYALOJA OR BABALOJA in Lagos State is crude form of ethicized political patronage.

bayooooooo: How? How can you declare your landlord persona non grata?

Who dash monkey banana? Landlord ko landlord ni.

bayooooooo: Babaloja is a traditional title not a political one. An Igbo can't and shouldn't be Babaloja in Lagos just same way a Yoruba should not be one somewhere else apart from Yorubaland. They should conduct elections among themselves, choose a leader and mandate him to liaise with Babaloja. That's how it's done.

Arrant nonsense!!! Yoruba land does not constitute Nigeria rather the so-called Yoruba land is an integral part of Nigeria.

Katsumoto: If you don't know the difference btw a representative and a Babaolaja, then your teachers failed you Dede1. I ask again, what are the names of the market leaders in the North who happen to be Igbo?

Was it fashola dat selected the Babaoloja? Why bring fashola into this?

How so-called Babaloja could have been elected when the largest cross-section of the Ladipo market regarded him as a persona non grata? Lagos State under ACN has been appointing questionable individuals to idiotic positions in markets around the state. Ladipo Market is not the first market to experience and resist such boneheaded moves by Lagos State fuelled by mindless tribal bigotry.

Katsumoto: What is the name of any Igbo market leader in the North? There are a few markets in Kano, please assist by supplying the names of any Igbo who is a market leader there.

Sometimes you guys take Yoruba tolerance for granted.

Just be happy that you have a place to conduct your business without fear of losing your head. The thing is that it wouldn't take a lot to invite troublemakers whose presence might lead to the closure of the market. If that happens, who loses? It pays to see the big picture some times.

The above post is a result of despicable and inherent tribalism. In the northern region of Nigeria, Igbo traders have representatives at the governor’s office. The shameful display at Ladipo Market is one among many reasons the “SAN” worn by Fashola is highly questionable. The tribal induced shenanigans of fraudulent Babaloja buttressed what I had maintained on this forum that Yoruba people are second nature to tribal bias.

Where is the esteemed professor with his skewed analogy of swamp and hippopotamus?

ilugunboy: Of course I know...I even know it the same people that killed other Nigerians and spared their own

A malnourished interloper such you can not figure out that Yoruba wrote a book on how to practice tribal bias in Nigeria.

Ola Johnson: Give me an example of tribalism in the Yoruba.

Ladipo Market!!!!

ilugunboy: You are making it so simplistic ....and apparently you are a novice in political arithmetics...arguing with you won't get you out of the deadwood ...fortunately for GEJ...people with your type of understanding will be rare in his strategy and tactical team.

Shut up your putrid mouth. The last presidential election instantly reduced SW to the level of political insignificancy. I should not remind you that loudmouth and tribal bigotry are the two things preventing SW from being totally submerged in Nigerian political sea.

henrychubayo: Trust me guys, i know our dear minister must be working very hard to see that these project is achieved. She want Enugu to function very well. She must have back doors activities that will help promote the airport and she must have encouraged Ethiopia to start the route and must have convinced them that majority of people who fly out of Nigeria are from the east and show them the benefit of been the only airline to run there and by november to march, they will make lots of money from enugu.

But now is right time to Encourage Embassies to open VFS offices in the East.

I have warned Ndigbo to be socio-politico-economical wary of the USA, Britain and Russia as long as Nigeria is concerned. I shall not even dream of asking Britain or Russia to consider a consulate in Igbo land. AN Igbo group had made numerous requests on USA to open a consulate in Igbo land especially during the height of sectarian riots in northern region of Nigeria. I guess such pleas did not count as far as USA is concerned rather USA opened additional consulate in Kano. Ndigbo must know who their real enemies are.

ARROBA: Schedule

If this is true, I say what a welcome idea. Even though Enugu is a greater road travel than Port Harcourt, Ethiopian Airline should be enthusiastically supported for this rare endeavor. I know market prices can fluctuate with ease but the listed price for a flight form Washington, DC to Enugu got me scratching my head.

ak47mann:

Ndigbo must be very careful with pictorial, literary and oral statements of depiction of what represent IGBO nation state. The mere subliminal idea that Igbo maybe limited to five states in Nigeria begs for correction. When I talk or write about Igbo or Igbo land, I include not only Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu and Imo but Rivers, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom, Cross River, Delta, Edo, Benue and Kogi States.

A fool at forty remains a fool forever!!! Edwin E K Clark has been a fool, is a fool and shall remain a fool. He reminds me everything about Anthony Enahoro.

django1: But seriously must you always try and use katsumoto's "wrestling" jab?

We all know who settles inter-hermit fight with wrestling matches in this country.

Lol. Intellectual thief.

Sorry!!! I did not know “wrestling” is now a Yoruba word. I had thought it is English.

Mazi Eziachi, Ochi Agha nke mbu/oli/otu/izizi na ala Biafra, I wish you the quickest recovery ever known to man.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm]Is that all? I thought you would produce another revised version of the copy of the copy of the copy of Nigerian history, as usual. Thank goodness the nurse was around this time to administer the drugs herself. Get well soon![/quote]You exemplify the American saying that stupidity can not be fixed.

4 Play: That was a cringe worthy interview that makes me embarrassed to be a Nigerian. He gives the impression of a man who hasn't thought deeply about development issues. It's basically the same incoherent drivel you hear from other Nigerian politicians which is understandable as they spend most of their time plotting how to enrich themselves.

What is even more disturbing is the number of likes for the front page posts commending Amaechi and proclaiming him as Presidential material. I have always said Nigerians have the Govt they deserve. . .the incompetence and corruption of our leaders is a reflection of the general populace from which the leaders emerged from.

What did you expect from cross-section of ill-educated trolls that pass as Nigerians? I have quit blaming the dim-witted politicians elected by Nigerians.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm]OJUKWU that contested thrice and failed shamelessly? What ever you are smoking must be really strong. Keep the genetic delusion alive.[/quote]You are just a monumental embarrassment to human decency.

sleekdot: But the man ojukwu himself couldnt even win a Senatorial election in his own time

So how can you create a dynasty when the scion himself was a political failure

You are a slow learner or not a leaner at all. Unlike other major ethnic groups in Nigeria, the polity in Igbo land is respecter of nobody. Even Ndigbo loved Emeka Ojukwu to a fault yet did not waste any energy to inform him that NPN was not a home.

cooltone: But presido GEJ cannot stand Amaechi even with his Phd. Amaechi is more articulate,intelligent and eloquent. Reminds me of US president Barak Obama, I just wonder why some people prefer dull heads to govern them when some people like Amaechi are there. If GEJ comes on hard talk, you will be so ashamed to be a Nigerian.

Yet the only job Rotimi Amaechi ever held was as a gubernatorial butler. What was Amaechi’s job before he became speaker in Rivers State House of Assembly?

Are most Nigerians shamefully educated or stupidly induced by tribal bias? Abubakar Tafawa Balewa was not Nigeria's Heat of State or President.