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Penboy:
Please just stop arguing with that guy jare. Does he know about the AIDS Britain and France, "even Russia" recieved from USA.
In fact, who speared headed post WW2 EUROPEAN development? With massive fundings and developmental policies??

That derrmy guy is a joke. Having Knowledge is different from insight.

Bro the way you guys talked as if US just came to win the war for Europe, i have categorically explained how European countries allied with US to defeat Nazi Germany. You are talking about postworld war rebuilding of Europe you can see you are veering off point. We are talking about the maneuvers the allied forces made during the war that led to the defeat of Nazi Germany. Europe wasn't lazy during the war ok.

princfred:
Most if what you wrote are correct yet i cant see how it nullified the fact that Europe destroys itself when a part of it becomes too powerful and that US helped Europe from utter destruction from Nazis.
Again i ask "how many European countries were standing strong before US came in"?

Bro, the fact that some parts of those countries were attacked and occupied by Nazi troops doesn't mean all the countries fell completely. look at what Britain achieved during dambusters raid also known as "operation chastise". Those countries kept on resisting launching counter offensive even before US joined the fray.

Go and read about the exploits of Gen Charles de Gaulle of France, Gen Winston Chruchill of Britain and Field Marshal Motgomery.

Go and read "Never Surrender" by General Winston Churchill, he was a commander during the war and a Prime minister.

alphaNomega:
There you go blaming them in every paragraph you wrote.

Slave trade and colonialism are hard evidences that they are far superior, stop being sentimental.

And for your information, we were living in the bush! On our own in this part of West Africa, we had not discovered cement or crude oil yet they had identified these resources and were able to develop it.

It is possible much of this place called Nigeria and Africa were largely uninhabited (aka bush) which made it easier for the European explorers to Map out these areas and share it among themselves as colonies.

During WWI, the white man had built submarines. Tell me what the indigenous people of this region had built at the same time. Yet you say they underdeveloped Africa. Did they stop you from building highly advanced ocean going vessels?

The names of African countries you hear today, the borders were all defined by them so how can you still be living in denial by saying whites are not better than us.

Dude even the fvcking language YOU AND I are using to communicate, and rant this very moment belongs to them.

So much for doing research and freeing your mind, clearly you have not.

NB: About that "chicken theory" thing you wrote, if it is the one a chicken was brutally de-feathered and came back to for chicken feed, then it is attributed to Josef Stalin not Adolf Hitler.

If you uderstood the laws of societal development, Historical and Dialectical materialism, the succession of one mode of production by another you wont type all these.

kemicalreaction:

See your big disorganised teeth. Lol

princfred:
Maybe in your crayon books na Fulani rescue Europe. Which Europen countries were still standing before US entered the fray?

US was reluctant to enter WW2 because she saw WW2 as Europe's problem and didnt want to interfere. It was Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on Dec 7 1941 that dragged US into WW2 ok. So this one you are saying US came to rescue Europe.

Bro Google 'Allied forces' and check the countries that participated in WW2 from 1939-1945. The fact that Germany overran some European countries doesn't mean all the forces of those countries were decimated completely. When US came in they fought together ok. Russia defended staligrad itself when Germany invaded stalingrad. You can check the belligerents on wikipedia.

Go to Wikipedia and look at the beligerents that took part in Normandy invasion. It was the western allied powers that took Normandy back from Nazi Germany not US alone. The allied countries even fought Nazi Germany in North Africa please google 'North Africa campaign'. Go to wikipedia and look at the allies that fought world war 2. This one you guys are saying US rescued Europe. US didn't rescue Europe it fought alongside these countries to defeat Nazi Germany ok. Australia and US also fought Japan in the pacific, please Google the 'Battle of port moresby'. This same Australia also fought alongside US to defeat Japan in the pacific theatre known as "Battle of coral sea" please check these fact on wikipedia so you won't think I'm forming them just to earn likes.

The Red Army was "the main engine of Nazism's destruction," writes British historian and journalist Max Hastings in his book "Inferno: The World at War, 1939-1945." The Soviet Union paid the harshest price.

Please get a digital copy of inferno, thank God it was written by a British historian. Infact go and read about the "The battle of Kursk" the largest tank battle in history. Soviet Union gave Nazi germany a brutal and decisive punch. You are so ignorant of so many things. You know nothing bro.

Wow. Putin my man

Sterope:
US entered the war two years late. Don't worry, the allied forces were already holding their own.

Fact. They keep shouting US rescued Europe. Isn't it laughable.

Sterope:
You want to compare countries that have so much history with America? Countries whose royalty are related someway and somehow to another with America, just one country, that was born yesterday? Are you fucking nuts?

Who sat you down and told you that Europe wasn't handling itself during these wars?

Thank you Sterope. I've stopped replying people like him. They are just so obsessed with America and it's really starving them intellectually.

Laurene:
thats how you Negroes will keep hyping Iran but when it starts you people will start crying manslaughter and blue murder. I hope you will help Iran fight the war when it starts? oooo! I forgot you will be behind your keypad fighting yours.

Wow. I'm proud to be a Negro. You didn't answer my question. Why hasn't Israel discombobulated Iran? Iraq wasn't an existential threat to Israel in 1981 when Israel flew over Iraq and destroyed Iraq's nuclear reactors. Now that Iran is threatening her existence then she should act the same way she did in 1981. Infact she needs to discombobulate Iran before Iran enriches uranium to the level where it is needed to build nukes. When will Israel discombobulate Iran?? ? ?? LOL

Laurene:
i keep telling them... US only needs Israel to discombobulate Iran

Lol. Then Israel should have discombobulate Iran since, that is if it can do it alone. Israel did not ask for US permission when it flew over Iraq in 1981 and destroyed Iraq's nuclear reactors. The operation was codenamed "operation opera" She should try that on Iran now if she thinks she can do it again. Instead she lobbied America to help her aqueeze Iran's economy.

Discombobulation kor distillation ni

Penboy:
Bros stop talking like this nau. All those countries you mentioned had all fallen during the war. France was over. In fact, France became a battle ground. Britain was strained; barely surviving from trade deals between USA. Or what dyou think prompted Japan's action and US entry into the war? Even your might Russia was hit.

Bros re-read your history.

Bro Google 'Allied forces' and check the countries that participated in second war from 1939-1945. The fact that Germany overran European countries doesn't mean all the forces of those countries were decimated completely. When US came in they fought together ok. Russia defended staligrad itself when Germany invaded stalingrad. You can check the belligerents on wikipedia.

Go to Wikipedia and look at the beligerents that took part in Normandy invasion. It was the western allied powers that took Normandy back from Nazi Germany not US alone. The allied countries even fought Nazi Germany in North Africa please google 'North Africa campaign'. Go to wikipedia and look at the allies that fought world war 2. This one you guys are saying US rescued Europe. US didn't rescue Europe it fought alongside these countries to defeat Nazi Germany ok. Australia and US also fought Japan in the pacific, please Google the 'Battle of port moresby'. This same Australia also fought alongside US to defeat Japan in the pacific theatre known as "Battle of coral sea" please check these fact on wikipedia so you won't think I'm forming them just to earn likes.

Alliance is important ok. Why do you think US is seeking western and Arab coalition against Iran even though it knows Europe is not ready to go hostile against Iran.

Why is US pressuring its allies to stop doing business with Iran to the point of threatening them with sanctions. US can't achieve so many things without the cooperation of his european allies ok.

duni04:
America didn't rescue Europe during WW2? HAHAHA
And it's me that needs to do the research? Do you know what the NAZIS were doing to the Russians before the Americans stormed Normandy? Do you know America gave Stalin weapons to fight the Nazis? Do you know Germany had already annexed parts of Russia before D-day?

It's like you are really obsessed with America. You are talking as if US came to do the job for Europe. WW2 was won through the alliance of different countries, US troops were fighting alongside french, british, polish, Swiss, Netherland, Russian troops even these imperial powers went to their colonies to recruit conspcripts to fight for them. Conscripts were taken from Africa, middle east and other parts of the world in large numbers and you are giving the credits to America. Infact the performance of Africans in the 2nd world war was great that it boosted their morale and changed their view of white man superiority. This is what happens when you are obsessed with someone/something and you can't even think straight.

I'll stop quoting you.

Joining Nigerian military is suicide itself. May his soul rest in peace.

duni04:
Where was this western alliance during WW2 when the Germans over ran almost all of Europe? Americans had to travel thousands of miles across the Atlantic to rescue Europe. And you're here in 2019 talking about a mythical western alliance. Don't go and talk like this on American forums. They'll just insult the heck out of you.

America didn't rescue Europe during the 2nd world war. It was a war that was fought and won through alliance of different countries. Infact the Russians were able to push back the Nazis when they attacked and overan stalingrad.

Even during the 2nd world war America was not a super power cause the Japanese kick their ass and gave them big problem. Japan had the most powerful navy in the world and was the first country that started operating an aircraft carrier and the Aircraft carriers of the Imperial Japanese navy outnumbered that of US. US emerged a super power after the 2nd world war ended and we can attribute that to the Nuclear weapons she detonated on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and for US to enjoy the alliance it enjoyed during the 2nd world war she came up with NATO so as to counter the powerful USSR.

Please do your research very well.

Penboy:
The NATO you're actively mentioning, who dyou think is massively financing it?
Take America out and it'll die a natural death.
Europe might have begun the struggle for modern super powers but those countries won't dare America.

Check most institutions that America formed with other world nations, most fundings come from America. Trump even complained bitterly about some.

Truth is those European countries have gone lazy.

You are arguing out of point you are even arguing against your point. Oh yea US is the one paying the bulk of NATO bills but which country is actively using the alliance for its interest most? It's the United States, so what do you expect? The fact that US is the one paying bulk of the bills should tell you that America really values and need NATO and does not want the alliance to die.

Let me give you facts. If NATO dies today i can tell you western European countries would build their own military organisation that would protect them from Russia and any other percieved foe. Infact french president Emmanuel Macron has hinted on that last year when Trump was barking at European countries for their inability to pay up their bills.

US is the only country in NATO that has invoked article 5 during its creation. After the 9/11 attack on US. US triggered article 5 and declared herself under attack, NATO countries started flying intelligence misson over US in solidarity and moved to Afghanistan to smoke out the taliban govt that gave Osama a safe haven. So that alliance is very vital to US world hegemony. Do you think US can take on Russia and China alone without the help of her NATO allies?

US really need the cooperation of her allies to continue her hegemony.

alphaNomega:
Who would control the army, Germany? France? Italy?

Take away America from Europe today and it would be between Germany and Russia as we've always had it in the past. Our brothers in the Middle East are still kept in check by America, and without it they would resume their expansionist agenda in full force. Those guys would not hesitate to use nuclear weapons, mark my words.

China would still remain a formidable force in Asia and we could even see a Chinese/NK/Russian alliance this time. Trump's media loving with Kim is one way to see this union does not happen anytime soon.

I still maintain that Europe needs big brother America to maintain stability/security and America needs them so it can be relevant in the world stage. No nation can stand alone today.

When Trump was campaigning for his presidency he promised to pull US out of NATO if you can remember. He said NATO was obsolete and it was sucking US financially, he called NATO a product of the cold war, oh yes he was right by saying NATO is a product of the cold war but even after the cold war ended NATO continued to serve US selfish interests to this day. I dont need to cite examples you do justice to that.

Till today he hasn't done anything about his campaign of pulling US out of NATO. I think this is the only campaign promise he hasnt fulfilled. US couldn't counter Soviet expansionism alone during the cold war that was why it approached Europe for an alliance and it is still enjoying that alliance today. Do you know what makes Iran a deadly force in the middle east? It's because of its proxy allies the Houthis, Hezbollah etc. Alliance is very important in the pursuit of hegemony. And a military power that understands that will stand the test of time.

The truth is US needs Europe the more.

alphaNomega:
As far as history goes Europe needs America to maintain the peace they are enjoying today. Take away America and you have shortened the countdown to World war 3

Europe needed America during the world war. And remember the 2nd world war was won by alliance not US alone. The muscle US flexes around the world today is due to the fact that it has support of its European allies under NATO. Unilateralism is what US thrives on, whenever US ditches United Nations and takes a Unilateral move on the world stage with support from its allies be rest assured that US actions would be justified.

Without the cooperation of European countries during the cold war US wouldn't have been able to put Soviet expansionism in check. After the 2nd world war ended USSR under Joseph Stalin started expanding eastward, eastern Europe was falling to Communism and this was a threat to Western europe and America, the main reason that led US to create NATO in 1949. And this NATO really boosted US power during the cold war years because the USSR would think twice before unilaterally taking actions that undermines US powers and influence.

Emmanuel Macron once said that Europe should create its own military force, a military force that can defend europe even from US, why? Because they are not happy with the US under trump. If that should happen that would be the beginning of the end for NATO and the end of US dominance on the world stage militarily. The reason US is running its madness around the world is because of the strength of the NATO alliance. And i can tell you US has achieved its selfish interest around the world through this NATO alliance. Bro let me cut it here. US needs Europe the more but Trump does not see this because he doesn't know intl politics. Putin a brilliant tactician knows the importance of alliance when he said some years back that

"The dissolution of the Soviet Union is the biggest political disaster of the 20th century"

Look at Putin today he needs alliance badly so as to project Russia's interest around the world. What US is still enjoying.

They are not even patriotic. Are they not ready to die for the state while serving the people?

Lagos Mafia lol

Akon b like when una go end this una RUGA matter sef?

soberdrunk:
One day Innoson will make our presidential vehicles.......

Lol. Amen

Which one is Iran tanker attacks?
Did Iran attack any tanker? Why didn't you report British tanker attack when Britain seized Iranian tanker off Gibraltar.

kayusely70:
Dont push Iran to a war it could be disastrous

Iran has made it known she doesn't want war. Iran is the victim here, Iran is the country that is being bullied. Things were ok before America unilaterally pulled out of that deal and moved military forces to the region a year after. US is the one that wants war. US is the aggressor here.

E no consign us jor. We get our own problems here

Anarchy wey don start since naija get independence

softmind24:
Iran again

Oh yes, Iran again and again. I'm happy we have a country that won't allow itself to be bullied by some bloody imperialist war mongers. Even if Iran loses at the end the fact remains that she was able to stand up to her bullies. If we can have stubborn and determined countries like Iran US and her thugs won't have their way always.

JudasNaCarrot:
Iran should obey international laws and convention and stem the rhetoric of war.

War with the Allies will surely destroy Iran and further destabilize the already war torn region even though the Allies will also not find it easy go.

Iran should learn from Libya, Iraq and Syria.

Lmfao. US should obey international law and go back to the deal signed by major world powers too. I think America is the aggressor here. You pulled out of a deal unilaterally, imposed sanction and moved military assets to the region a year after. Donald Trump is the one that should stem the rethoric of war. Iran has said it does not want war but would defend the country if attacked.

Iran should learn from Libya, Iraq and Syria??

I think US and her allies are the ones that should learn more from Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and Syria cause they are the losers here. And please have it in mind that Iran is not Iraq/Libya.

Nice thread

Can any invention come out of this local kingdom?

Tina26:
Hustle well so your kinds wont attend fuoye or akungba

Lmfao.

Everybody just dey graduate from UK university

Tit 4 Tat.