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Seun:
It's difficult to justify intelligent design rationally. What intelligent designer creates billions of stars just so that he can create life on a single planet revolving around one of the stars? What intelligent designer creates a nerve that travels from a giraffe's brain to its chest and back to it's throat - a distance of several meters - instead of just connecting it directly? Which intelligent designer designs ugly, horrible diseases? It's difficult to justify intelligent design rationally if you know the basics of evolution and cosmology. It's an absolutely hilarious, frankly.


You cannot logically prove to me the non-existence of a super-hero, yet you would consider me crazy if I told you that I met Superman last night. Atheists don't necessarily have a strong belief in the non-existence of God, just as you don't have a strong belief in the non-existence of super heroes. We just think it is illogical to believe in any God unless there is good evidence that the God in question actually exists, just as you wouldn't believe that super-heroes are real and I met one unless I presented you with some really strong evidence to support my claim.


Atheism actually doesn't need to make the society a better place. I don't believe things because I think believing them will make the society better. I believe things because I have good reasons to believe that they are in fact, true. For example, I believe that the sky is blue. Because when I look at the sky, it's blue. When I take pictures of the sky, it's blue in those pictures. Whether it makes the world a better place or not is completely irrelevant to the fact that the sky is blue. I can see it, other people can see it, and it's clearly blue. End of story. Full stop.

Where the value of atheism lies is that it allows you to employ critical thinking in every area of your life. If you're religious, there are some thoughts you cannot engage in because they contradict your religious beliefs. You are constantly shielding yourself from any knowledge that contradicts the holy dogma you subscribe to. You're required to accept some highly illogical ideas because they are written in holy books. Even if rationally you know those ideas are wrong, you have to engage in disingenuous mental gymnastics to justify them. When you become an atheist, that enormous mental burden is lifted from your shoulders. Everything in your life suddenly makes perfect sense. You're free!

What I want people to embrace is not atheism per se, but reality. If most people in society are making decisions based on reality, they will make better decisions, and society will move forward collectively as a result of that. You won't have things like women dressing like ninjas under the hot desert sun; little girls fainting from the heat and still being forced to keep their ninja attires on. Children being called witches.

That's a good response Sire

That's probably his last post as HopefulLandord.
We'll surely be seeing more of him in the guise of another moniker.

analice107:
It's only a stupid person who will be talking about God and be talking existence (as pertains to this sphere) at the same time.

Oh, wait... Your idea of existence is only based on what you can see, feel or touch? What ever does not appeal to your senses doesn't exist right? Oh shit. For the last time, God is not material.

Wow. Whatever happened to these people?

Please go easy on the vulgar words.
Meanwhile, Jesus just crossed my mind. If you understand

PastorAIO:
So are you saying that God doesn't exist. At least not in the same way that the laptop I'm writing on exists. Not in the same way that my shoes exists etc.

Analice107 is probably reluctant to say YES to that deduction.

You haven't made any point.
What's the source of their wealth?

This is hilarious.

honourhim:
Atheists will still come here and display their stupldity that life ends here.

You probably think you sound smart.

Pathetic .

We don't try to understand or pick a point from another fellows argument while we debate. We rather look for conflicting ideas. This is a problem!!

Let's try to be empathetic.
We could learn a whole lot from one another.

Cc. HopefulLandlord, Winner01

Well done

Scholar8200:
Read what he said about the yoruba belief first:

Oh really!
..sounds like a comparison of two or more similar beliefs.

Scholar8200:
when did the sun cool to allow the whites to be made??
.

Seriously??, I am really surprised to see this.

Ever heard of the following phrases?
Tropic of cancer
Tropic of Capricorn
Equator
Climate and seasons?

mcemmy0z:
Is not a matter of ignorance, I would have love to believe in the evolution stuff, but ye people lack prove.
I would rather support the religious point of view about the beginning of human race, cause it still have a little truth, rather supporting evolution.

Would a student make sense of the proof of Pythagoras theorem when such doesn't know or basically understand Pythagoras theorem?

How would you understand the proof when you don't understand the concept?

See the logic!!

mcemmy0z:
I will answer your question about how race came to be, If you want me to.
Am not a Muslim neither Christian, and I still don't believe in that bullshitt of evolution.
I will ask you, what prove did you yourself have about evolution. Convince me is real aside from all the lies around about scientist discovery.

What stop evolution from taking place again, ain't we suppose to be growing wings now, or at least have two heads each.

Ignorance personified!!

BF69BF:
And what makes you think I don't?

You didn't say otherwise. Did you?

BF69BF:
??

Then you didn't understand him as well.

Maybe you should ask this question in Sunday school tomorrow.

BF69BF:
It's obvious you lack comprehension skill. All your teachers really did a poor job on you.

Would you pretend you don't have a clue as to what the fellow you quoted here meant? Do you think it's irrelevant to your topic?

KingEbukasBlog:
What knowledge of Him ?

Any

Please go ahead and make your point DeepSight.

KingEbukasBlog:
So answer my question . You don forget shey

I gradually lost believe in the human concept of a god because the more I seek knowledge of him, the less convinced I become, given the human accounts available.

DeepSight:
Thank you for these, much appreciated.
However as regards the rest, perhaps I should be more clear, I inquire of your own understanding of these things with specific regard to same Theistic vs Atheistic discourses. I inquire because I believe those precepts Have cardinal bearing on the discussion. Dictionary definitions will thus not suffice in this context.

Will you oblige sire?

Let me quickly say that my perceptions don't differ from their dictionary meaning Sir.

KingEbukasBlog:
Bro , I said : "Let's do it this way " .

Fine.
Continue

KingEbukasBlog:
Let's do it this way . Be candid with your responses

Why did you abjure you belief in God or impugn the reality of God's existence ?

I was expecting a response from you rather than a counter question.

KingEbukasBlog:
Again , you can't do without religion . You atheists need religion to be relevant .

I disagree with this.
Kindly elucidate.

KingEbukasBlog:
Sure . I'm close minded on God's existence . It's certain -100 percent

Nice.

DeepSight:
1. When the word "God" is used in a Theistic vs Atheistic discussion - what do you think that word means or connotes? What springs to mind as what is being discussed in such discussions as per the word "God"?

2. What is Time?

3. What is space?

4. What is a mind?

5. Are you a strict materialist? i.e: Do you believe that only physical things exist and that all things are physical?

These should do for now, much appreciated.

I'd answer question 1 & 5. The rest can be checked up in an English dictionary.

1. The word " God " in Theist-atheist discussions often connotes a "a supreme being, and creator of the universe".

2. I am not a strict materialist.

DeepSight:
May I ask you a few questions Sire? Just to understand you better.

Go on

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheism = I dont know but its not God = close-mindedness

Agnosticism = I don't know , it could be God , it could anything = open-mindedness

Theism = I know, its God. = Close-mindedness

Only if their brains were half as decorated as their body.

Hmmm.

Lol
I still wonder why Bible makes Satan (lucifer) the bad guy and yahweh the good guy.