Viruses:


I am not sure about the location of the training center but I doubt it's in the north. There is even no exam center in the north so why will a training center be there. But that's by the side.

Most people study themselves and pass. There are past questions and answers on the website and there are study materials available too. I am also in a group where we share ideas. You can send a PM.

Afternoon bro. I know it's coming a bit late now but I was recently introduced to the BCS certification and I was hoping you could direct me to where I could get study materials. I would appreciate your help. Thanks.

My Mail: desmondwebor@gmail.com

WILLuKPquiet:


He is not a killer but he killed many evil people in the past. Do you read your Bible at all

Yes He is a merciful God but when it comes to judgment, He could kill.

The plagues in Egypt,
The Proud King that works ate life.
The Wall of Jericho and it's inhabitants.

Etc etc etc.

I really wish you, as a christian, understand the new covenant upon which we now operate. If God killed today like he did in the past, you wouldn't be here. Bad people die, just like good people die too. If the pastor dies today, would you agree with a person that comes out to say he prayed to God to judge the pastor and he died, or would you call it mere coincidence?

Grandmeister:

About the literal days of creation I can’t tell because it was written within the understanding of Moses at that time, so maybe it wasn’t a literal 6 days. But No the Big Bang theory has no order or purpose to it..infact it’s a fallacy(scientifically speaking) to even term it a theory as it doesn’t even meet the requirements needed for it to be a theory.

You're missing my point. There are three theories/hypothesis accounting the formation of the universe, and while they are not all foolproof, scientists continuously strive to unravel the mysteries behind it all. My point is that there's science to the creation of the universe and there's a primary engineer - God.

If scientists ever find an infallible theory supporting the creation of the universe, it wouldn't be disproving the existence of a God but rather it would only show how it all happened.

Grandmeister:

Your question about Moses is a good one(because I am also a Christian). I have some doubts/questions in the things Moses wrote. Because some of them were the revelations he said God told him when he was alone and separated from the Israelites in the wilderness. But one thing I believe about Moses’s account(in genesis) is that this world we live in was designed and created by some people/someone with intelligence. I do NOT believe in the Big Bang theory neither do I believe in evolution.

There's no account of how exactly God created the heaven and earth. We were only made to believe God pronounced things into existence. What if the scientists are not entirely wrong? What if indeed the world was created according to the Big Bang Theory but with God as the engineer. Not all scientists are atheists.

Personally, I do not believe the world was created in 7 calendar days. I believe the creation took possibly billions of our calendar years. The problem we do have as Christians and scientists is trying to read literal meaning into everything in the bible.

Pelecius:

It's cool that you are a geologist. If I may ask, do you expect to find any track of carbon (same isotope 14) in an organic material after 300,000 years?
The question you raised about releasing carbon in burning "fossil" fuels should be enough to challenge the millions of years attached to those things.
Again, carbon 14 have been found in some diamond which are believed to be formed billions of years. If it has a short half life, how do we expect it to be found in diamond that are billions of years?
The assumptions behind dating technique is another problem which has been raised but nothing must challenge the principle of uniformitarianism. Talk about axioms and paradigms

Applications of half-life is not limited to Carbon-14 for dating techniques. There are other stable isotopes that are utilized for half-life.
No, the question about fossil fuels is enough reason for you to know that organisms have roamed this earth millions of years ago because it takes millions of years for the formation of petroleum (I hope you know how petroleum forms). There are so many evidences today that prove the existence of organisms millions of years ago, even without radiometric dating.

Dating techniques are not entirely foolproof, hence the margin of error estimation, but to fault it entirely without sufficient research data is hypocritical because we believe far more illogical things in our various religions.

Grandmeister:

Anything beyond recorded history is a guess...and a guess is anyone’s imagination.

Going by your logic, would I be wrong to say most accounts in the bible are mere guesses considering that a lot of the stories are not written by the people in such stories, rather by other people some odd hundreds of years later.

Moses wrote the book of Genesis despite not present during creation. Is that recorded history or guess?

Mind you, I am very much Christian but I am wise enough to know that scientific evidence is not an antithesis of biblical accounts.

Pelecius:


Radiocarbon dating on fossil? Do you expect to find any trace of carbon in a fossil? For crying out loud, these ages has nothing to do with carbon dating. It is more about using the geologic column (which has been found to be grossly misleading)

Really! You're asking if there's any trace of carbon in fossils? Do you even know what either/both carbon or fossil is at all? Do you know the process an organism has to go through to be called a fossil? If there's no trace of carbon in fossils, then which trapped carbon is released during the burning of fossil fuel? If you have a problem with dating techniques, how about you first try to understand half-life and it's applications.

Before you start throwing low blows, just know that geological works/research is what I do for a living and I only quoted you because of the misinformation on your entire submission.

MERCHANDISER:


Don't believe everything you hear on nairaland.That guy is still a kid probably an undergraduate or Jambite.I have met his like from nairaland.I was so disappointed by his level of reasoning Although i didn't let him.
But i won't never see him again,i hate ignorant people trying to form smartness

I swear! The things we see on the internet these days! I don't have a problem if their cognition is way below comprehension of simple geology but putting down researchers who have dedicated their lives to unravelling the past due to your insecurities is one that will never sit well with me. I try most times not to engage with their likes cos I know it'll be unfulfilling.

Corruptnation:
as you dey all wise and intelligent so, you don make am out of your country
This your statement shows how backwards you are.

The amount of hate you put in that statement show how much jealousy and envy you have towards that dumb college who made it out of this country on a scholarship base.

By the way. No body is dumb. The only dumb person is you, because your statement reek envy, jealousy and hatred.

You irritate me.

You really are a dimwit. Why are you being sentimental? Nobody is dull? Have you met you? Maybe you try checking out the dictionary meaning of perspective.

You were so quick to let everyone know you went abroad to study geology, albeit the abroad part being superfluous. Did you think that bit would make you appear smart? If you've ever conducted an independent research in your life, you would know not to besmirch other scientists research in a bid to promote a bland conspiracy.
As for travelling out the country, just chill, I've taken your moniker. I'll send you links to my international research. Just maybe it'll teach you something your life lacks.

Corruptnation:
na weti them no know. Them dey use that scam take get research grant.

No even border dey explain to that guy. Many of them hear no even know the meaning of research grant self.

You say you're a geologist, now let's put this in perspective. Just cos you're a geologist doesn't mean you are smart. I mean the dullest geologist in my graduate set made it out of the country on a scholarship. Would I be surprised if his likes come here to spew what you're spewing now? Not exactly.

How many research have you done? The independent research I made for my dissertations, were they a bid to get funds too? You likes sit in desolation discrediting years of research because CONSPIRACIES are your bread and jam. Like the other guy said, your schools need to refund all the fees paid towards your education.

visatex:


Accept defeat. Move on. Stop crying over a matter that is beyond you. Majority of the views here are clearly baseless.

If I were to write a thesis on this, I will end my PhD immediately. Utter nonesense!

How can you begin to study something that you already know is laced with all manner of falsehood?

How can I, with the intellectual prowess I exude, expect to stoop so low as to researching something that is clearly designed to nurse an agenda of fraud, so as to milk member-states of research grants when we have far sturdier issues on the table that will deliver the black man from white supremacy?

You expect me to give you an answer, when your IQ is infinitesimally too small to comprehend what I have done with science in the past 14 years of my life?

Guy! You too small. Just fly away abeg. And don't quote me again. I weep for you.

Lol. Your ignorance is seething. Your reason for doubting the existence of geological events is because you believe the bible. To you they cannot be mutually exclusive.

You call study of fossils fraud? Like I said initially, I only blame Nigeria educational system. The largest naturally preserved fossil, sue, is in museum. I know you've never been to a museum in your life. I even doubt you know the meaning of a fossil. Once again I blame the Nigerian educational system.

Seeing as I'd be depleting my brain cells trying to explain to you in a way I wouldn't even explain to a kindergarten before they understand, I I'll leave you to your ignorance guised in a self-conceited disposition.

visatex:



Keep dreaming, my PhD is better than your entire life work. I am 100% pure science but I don't believe everything a white man says.

If you truly have a PhD, then education system is useless. This is same reason why someone that read Architecture is positing that 5G is the cause of death in Wuhan, China and you lots believe.

If you do not know something, how about you ask? Do you think it's everything in your field of study that is believable, yet I'll never argue with you on it because you probably know more than me in that field. Now imagine me seeing you argue blindly in a field of mine. You're not asking to know, but you think you're smarter than people in the field.

May God help us and our educational system.

honeyB2018:


Can't you see, that you are just empty and devoid of understanding? Hope you went through my post very well?
Why pick a fight with a man who doesn't even know, that you exists?

Young man, your cognition is baffling. You're right, I should've never had this argument with you because now I'm left picking up fragments of my brain cells your posits shattered. I only pity the people that look up to you biblically.

honeyB2018:


Your expecting me to quote scriptures,,when I'm not addressing any issue that requires it, shows how empty and deceitful your brand of Christianity is
I know you and your brand, no need wasting my time on you. More than 3yrs, I spent on different social media platforms over this issue,
Why should I be stupid to engage you.
I will, still encourage you to be a Christian led by the Spirit and not of the letters.
Goodbye

Young man, you simply do not have anything reasonable to contribute. I bet the only scriptural passage of tithing you know is Mal 3 vs 10.

You said tithing is not under the law, I provided a passage for you showing tithing is law. I also show you passage condemning the law and it's uselessness (Heb 7 vs 18). The new testament was established after the death of Jesus yet you want to live by the same law he came to rid of.
Anyone who chooses to live by the law must not be selective of the law they chose to keep, you must abide by them all (Gal 3 vs 10 - 14).

Young man, I implore you today to repent cos you're living in sin by tithing. You can donate freely to your place of worship but you're no longer mandated. Ciao!

honeyB2018:


My friend, on other social media platforms, I have said alot over this, for more than 3yrs now.
I really would have loved to engage you or any other person on this issue, but on the inside of me, there is a very serious urge for restraint.
I know where you are coming from and i know you likes and have dealt with them then
I will not like to go any further on this issue
All I want to tell you, is simply be a man or Christian that is of the Spirit rather than letters. For the letter killeth, but the Spirit giveth life. 2 Cor.3;6

Your type of christianity is overwhelmingly sentimental. No bible verse to back your claims but you cry the loudest. Your type reduce the death of Jesus christ to absolutely no significance because the same new testament he died to establish is not enough for your kind. I bet if Jesus came down today to warn against tithing, your type would still pay cos your pastor says so.

honeyB2018:


Any Christian, who has issue with tithing, has not truly known the Lord.
Any so called Christian, who. Sees tithing as an old testament tradition, has not fully known the word of God. Tithing is not of the law. It was before the law, and the Law cannot abrogate, what it never created. This is one valid point, opponents of tithing, like the writer above me and his likes, have refused to acknowledge.
As for the man asking if he can pay his tithe in line with Deut. 26.12, my answer to you, is that you are not yet ready to pay your tithe. You just want to raise a controversy, to generate traffic to topic. When you are ready to pay your tithe, you should know what to do.
As tithe was an obligation then, so it is now. The principles, behind setting up of the priesthood then, is still the same today, though there may be a change of who becomes a Levite.

So you're trying to say tithing is not under the law. Wow! I guess Heb 7 vs 5 that says tithing is under the law was wrong, right?

Abraham gave a tenth of his loots to Melchizidiek, the chief priest. This was before it made a law. Jesus is now the chief priest and has cancelled all our legal indebtedness. Study your bible more and stop trying to be clever by half.
Col 2vs14
Eph 2vs 15
Gal 5vs 1.

And before you say Christ did not come to abolish the law, he said he came to fulfil it.

Meaning of fulfill (according to English dictionary): To satisfy, carry out, bring to completion (an obligation, a requirement, etc.).

Also, burnt sacrifices preceded the law as well, but why are you not burning sacrifices unto the lord since you want to continue tithing because it precedes the law?

WILLuKPquiet:


Well, thanks for your observation "fellow Christian".

Out of your extensive reading you should have pointed out names of other reptiles living in the sea with enormous size like the picture your see posted by the Op.

Check out the size of the human not far from the skeletal form and compare the size to the description of the Leviathan the bible talks about.

I want to learn and read extensively like you so,help me name those reptiles living in the sea with that kind of size.

Mercii fellow Christian

No need to be smug. I couldn't possibly list out all reptiles but here's two for a start, Mosasaurs and Plesiosaurs. While you're at it, kindly Google list of MESOZOIC marine and terrestrial reptiles.

For all of you that think dinosaurs were the only reptiles living in the past, you're very wrong!

WILLuKPquiet:



To buttress your point.
The bible made it clear it lived in the sea, it has the resemblance of a dragon and it will be killed and would be no more.

Check these other verses;


Isaiah 27:1

In that day the Lord will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent,
With His fierce and great and mighty sword,
Even Leviathan the twisted serpent;
And He will kill the dragon who lives in the sea.


Can you see that? The dragon vwho lives in the sea will be killed. Meaning wiped out.

Now check these other Bible verses

Psa 104:24 - 26

24:O LORD, how manifold are thy works! in wisdom hast thou made them all: the earth is full of thy riches.

26: So is this great and wide sea, wherein [are] things creeping innumerable, both small and great beasts.

26: There go the ships: [there is] that leviathan, [whom] thou hast made to play therein.


When scientists brag or the atheists deny the bible and praise the science, I laugh in 3D.

So from the bible verse you quoted, it's safe to assume you think all dinosaurs lived in water. Or do you think there were no other large size reptiles living alongside the dinosaurs?

You guys think you are more Christian than everyone. I am Christian but I read extensively instead of trying to prove a point. You should try it.

Jokerman:


Oh so you believe the red sea evebt, lol, I wonder if science would believe a sea can be divided and people walk through it....

How about you Google it before spewing this. Science can very give you explanation of the parting of the red sea. It's left for you to see that that's God's wonder. You always assume all scientists are atheists.

foshe36:
Its a pity son of man refuses to learn.
for those questioning how they came about the number of years, Read about radiometric dating or radiocarbon dating.
If you don't have a little knowledge of chemistry you might find it hard to understand what isotopes means and how they are unstable.

Also for those who are being shielded from learning, life has existed on planet earth for 3 times, dinosaur are the second and humans are third, no humans when dinosaurs existed, evidence shows that all fossils of dinosaur dated back to the same time meaning they all died at the same moment by burning which scientific research uncovered to be an asteroid hit planet earth and wiped more than 90% of life on earth, some borrow animals survive and crocodile and sharkes are all relatives of dinosaur as they survived the blast.

And those questions about earth age.. scientists dated the oldest rocks on earth with majority found in Canada and Greenland dated back to 4.5 billion years, correlating to the the age of rocks from the moon and ages of over 70 meteorites that have fallen on earth. all these astronomical bodies, earth, moon, asteroid and meteorites which are all formed from a same dusty cloud that emerges from a supernover predicted to happened 4.8 to 5.2 billion years ago.
A supernover is a big explosion of a giant start that gave birth to our solar system including the sun. Don't doubt all these processes because these are processes that is being observed every now and then, scientists are always watching from their giant telescopes and scanning every inch of the space every seconds of every day for all these phenomenon, and they are seeing things happening out there, you can only know if you seek. If you don't know birth if a star was observed last year by scientists last year 2019.

To relief myself of typing a text book, google is your friend. Ask questions.

I swear it's quite hard trying to educate people that think scientists are out to deceive them. How do you sit in you couch discrediting years of research because your peanut-size brain cannot fathom or because you feel it contradicts your religious beliefs. Some of the so-called learned ones are calling carbon-dating scam for whatever reason.

Nigerians has got to do better.

AkpaMgbor:

This is not my question..of course the tectonic plates are constantly shifting..earthquakes are a violent example of it..my question is concerning this thread..did those beasts walk alongside men? That has been a major debate for a long time now.

Dinosaurs and man existed in different geological times. You may find it hard to believe if you are Christian cos they're the only religious dispensation doubting it, I think. If you're Christian, we may have to agree to disagree on this cos your argument will probably fault carbon dating.

Ps. I'm Christian too but I believe the bible account of creation is not literal and straightforward, maybe due to translating errors.

Mbataku96:

You think you know more than I do, but you are totally inaccurate, make i yarn you something, in my family blood line we have people who commands the rain to stop and it stops and they tell fall and it does so, I have discovered that I inherited this abilities. Tell me dose science have anything to do with it.

Wow, that's nice. I can't argue with you on your prowess. You may truly know how to manipulate the weather and I don't doubt it but I know how past events of millions of years worked cos that's my prowess. So I expect you not to argue with me or doubt me either. Cheers.

AkpaMgbor:

Everyone who watches educative documentaries and not bbnaija, who reads materials and researches and not Mills and boons knows what a continental drift is..and they know this earth's landscape has changed substantially than it was in the past! Your comment did not answer why those cultures had same beasts in their history..

It's not only in the past. The continental plates are constantly moving but at a slow rate which is why it's not quite obvious.

One characteristic of a fossil is that it must be geological widespread across several locations. Most parts in Nigeria used to be submerged in water. I'm talking about hundred hundreds of thousands of years. I know this because there are fossils that typically live in marine and lacustrine environments that are found in these parts albeit dry land now. In that same vein, some cultures may have large beasts because they migrated to favorable conditions. Some even swam across oceans to their new home.
If I did not answer your question still, then maybe pose the question towards what you want to know.

9jaDoomCountry:



Mr know-it-all, I am not contesting anything with you. Let nothing annoy you. Maintain your lane as I am on my lane.


They didn't capture the stuff while embedded in the ground. Let me see 100 million years fossil in my area.

I don't know it all, far from it. The difference between you and me is that you'll never catch me arguing in field I know nothing of. If you post something here about your area of study, no matter how much it defies logic, what I'd do is to Google it, and if true, I'll learn from you cos that's how I learn.

Back to this matter, they captured it while it was buried. They actually dug for weeks or months.

And yes, there could be fossils in your backyard. It doesn't have to be ginormous. It could be as small as a snail (eg. Trilobites), even microscopic (eg. Foraminifera). Google the names in bracket.

Sorry if I came across rude but just be open to learn new things.

Mbataku96:

You mean by professional liers.

That's my profession. Do you think you know more than I do? I blame the Nigerian educational system. In western world, these things are taught in primary schools.
You probably only think it's a lie because it contradicts your religious belief. I could give you geological books that tie some biblical events to geology eg. the parting of the red sea. This will make you see that God does not perform magic but he uses spectacular natural events for his wonders.

AkpaMgbor:

That is entirely not true...there's a lot of discussion about this..many ancient cultures have description of these reptiles in their artworks, and these cultures were worlds apart yet seem to have the same description of great lizards in their tales..how come? There was no trans-atlantic voyages then..definitely no Internet..the chinese have the year of the dragon...the atzecs have have it in their ancient temples...Georgia, Hong Kong, Iceland and many other countries have it in their coat of arms..a coincidence? I really doubt it.

You again! You need to read geological journals. The last time you were arguing here, I didn't want to engage because you think you know more than professionals that have given years in this field. Personally, I have give close to a decade of my life as a Geologist.

Google continental drift, then maybe you'll understand why animals and plants share same characteristics across several continents. It's not about trans-Atlantic voyage.

I hope you learn.

9jaDoomCountry:
Lies go kee una o.100 million years and the bones still never rotie.


Atheists trying their best to establish nonsense. Make una try harder next time please.

E get some lies wey go make Lie Mohammed look like a learner.

These are the kind of remarks I find entirely annoying. Ignorance will make you guys argue with people that have dedicated their lives researching this field.

The bones you see are called fossils because they were buried/preserved in natural conditions that oxygen couldn't decompose them. In some cases, the fossils were so well preserved that some flesh and their entire body structure were intact.

Do not be a typical Nigerian. Ask questions and you just might be educated by professionals here in nairaland.

AkpaMgbor:

You see the bones littered and discovered by archeologist..they call it a dinosaurs but it had names in the ancient times..probably most were destroyed in the flood...that goes to show that men actually lived with the beasts we now call dinosaurs..read the accounts of the historian josephus who went from Asia Minor to India..he described flying serpents that he saw all over India..people have called them dragons, leviathan, dinosaurs, great flying serpents..but one thing is for sure, men saw them..they didn't live millions of years ago as evolutionists falsely assume.

Why do you have to lie to prove your point? You obviously read my excerpt in the previous pages to get the scriptural passage of job I quoted. The description of Behemoth do no anyway match that of a dinosaur. Dinosaurs couldn't have lived with humans because they are largely territorial. Atleast consult google to see the pictorial representation of behemoth from the description.
You guys never want to learn, you believe everyone is out to deceive you.

As a geologist, it's been quite difficult reading this thread from start to finish. I see a lot of misinformed and, simply put, slow people on the thread. It'll be insane for to argue with people in the medical field cos I know less. Why would I argue about the placebo effect and other medical mysteries?
Now, let me explain this in a kindergarten way for the religious buffs and skeptics.

I am Christian but not all account in the bible are literal. For example, there is no record/fossil of the behemoth mentioned in the bible in Job 40:15–24 on earth.

Then again, if you believe the earth is only 6,000 years old, how do you explain the remains/fossils of dinosaurs and other animals in museums? Those dinosaurs predate the 6,000 years you believe. How do I know this? Because there was no account in the bible of dinosaurs living during biblical times, meaning they existed before humans on earth.

For the skeptics of evolution, this process, like many biological/geological processes, is extremely slow and not readily obvious at a go. An example of extremely slow processes like this is sea floor spreading where new EARTH crust is formed by the movement of tectonic plates, meaning the size of the earth is expanding every now and then but at a slow pace. The movement rate ranges from 1cm to 15cm per year. How anyone observe this process in their lifetime if not for scientific research?

An easier way to digest this without contradicting your belief is to see it that every scientific research/processes is God's handiwork. The timing of creation in Genesis is not clear-cut hence there's a possibility that the 7 days of creation may have represented millions of years apart.

Africa is sitting on a gold mine with plenty of paleontological treasures like fossils and other things but no dedication to research to uncover these things. If we took research serious, people from all walks of life would be trooping into Africa for tourism purposes.

Nobody is trying to deceive anybody. Educate yourself before spewing hot trash.

I don't think this govt is ready for the imminent actions to follow due to hunger. Why so much propaganda in disbursing fund to hungry citizens?

MiddleDimension:


evolution goes on every second but takes geoligical time to become visible for un aided human senses to perceive it.

and no, there is no designer here. what you call design actually emerged as a result of nature weeding out imperfect versions and improving on those that are best fitted to survive.

designers go back to the drawing board when they see an error that would affect the functionality of their 'design'. when you look around nature, you will see a whole lot if imperfections. but your god is toi arrogant, it cannot admit errors and go back to the drawing board.

I admire your resilience trying to educate some slowp*kes on here. How do you expect them to understand geological time when they believe the earth is only 6,000 years old. I am a geologist and christian (which is where we do not share same belief) myself but I do not swallow everything in the bible hook, line and sinker because it has some rather contradictory passages. Safe to say I am christian because I believe there is a superior being that created the world using techniques/pattern that is uncovered as scientific discovery (we do not have to agree on this).

Some of the ignorance I have observed from the first page of this thread is baffling. There are so many things happening in this world that so many so-called christians wouldn't believe cos they just won't read other texts aside the bibe. Like for instance, new Earth is forming every day from sea-floor spreading but it is not very obvious becuase it's all in geological time.
I wish people would just read instead of portraying a special kind of stupidity.

Samsonklin:

Please help a brother. Where can the subtitle files
Be downloaded?

Go to addic7ed.com for any TV series subtitle you desire.