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Christianity EtcRe: Why God Appeared Wicked In The Old But Loving In The New Testament by destiny4luv(m): 11:32am On Nov 16, 2013
Point of correction God is never left out of the equation when dealing with the affairs of men either good or bad. i've dozens of scriptures to back it up. how can u bring a sovereign God so low. May He've mercy on u.
Christianity EtcThe Illusion Of "Free Will" (part2) Did Pharaoh Have Free Will? by destiny4luv(op): 11:05am On Nov 16, 2013
DID PHARAOH HAVE
FREE WILL?
We will now look at
some of the most
profound and yet most
misunderstood and not
believed Scriptures in the
entire Bible.
"For He says to
Moses, I will
have mercy on
whom I will have
mercy, and I will
have compassion
on whom I will
have
compassion"
(Rom. 9:15).
Just who is in control in
this statement, puny
man or God? Man’s will
is not free to contradict
what God says He WILL
DO.
"So then it is not
of him that wills,
nor of him that
runs, but OF GOD
that shows
mercy" (Ver. 16).
What puny man "wills"
has absolutely nothing to
do with what God WILL
DO.
"For the Scripture
says unto
Pharaoh, Even for
this same
purpose have I
raised you up,
that I might show
My powers in
you, and that My
name might be
declared
throughout all
the earth.
Therefore has He
mercy on whom
He will have
mercy, and whom
He will He
hardens" (Vers.
17-18).
Pharaoh did not harden
his own heart—God said
that He hardened it.
Remember I said that
God has a stated will as
a goal and an active will
in the plan or process of
obtaining His stated will?
Right here we can see
this principle in action:
1. God states His
will:
"Then the Lord
said unto
Moses, Go in
unto Pharaoh,
and tell him,
Thus says the
Lord God of the
Hebrews, Let
my people go…"
(Ex. 9:1).
There is God’s
stated will—He
wants Pharaoh to
"Let my people
go…" But does
God expect or
even want His
"will be done on
earth" at the
time that He
declares it?
Obviously not. In
fact, it is God
Himself, Who
prevents Pharaoh
from doing God’s
stated will of
letting His people
go. Notice it:
2. "And the Lord
hardened the
heart of
Pharaoh and he
hearkened not
unto them, as
the Lord had
spoken unto
Moses" (Ver. 12).
Most Christians just plain
refuse to believe these
very simple Scriptures.
Yet the ramifications of
these Scriptural truths
are enormous. Notice
what God did with
Pharaoh:
First God tells Moses to
tell Pharaoh to "to let
My people go." And
Pharaoh would have let
the Hebrews go. Sure he
would, had not God
Himself intervened. Why
would Pharaoh let them
go? Because Pharaoh’s
heart was both soft and
weak. A soft and weak
heart was no match for
God. Pharaoh would
have caved in and let His
people go. But God did
not want Pharaoh to let
His people go. He asked
Pharaoh to let His people
go, but He didn’t want
Pharaoh to let them go
this easily.
Next God has to do
something in order to
prevent Pharaoh from
letting His people go.
God actually wants
Pharaoh to go against
His stated will. God’s
stated will is "let My
people go," but God
doesn’t want Pharaoh to
do God’s stated will at
this time. He wants
Pharaoh to resist God.
God has not changed,
God still wants mankind
to resist Him. But
Pharaoh (just like the
rest of humanity) is too
weak and soft to resist
God. So what does God
do? Two things:
1. "And I will
harden [Heb:
qashah—to make
hard] Pharaoh’s
heart, and
multiply My
signs and My
wonders in the
land of Egypt.
But Pharaoh
shall not
hearken unto
you, that I may
lay My hand
upon Egypt, and
bring forth Mine
armies, and My
people the
children of
Israel, out of
the land of
Egypt by great
judgments. And
the Egyptians
shall know that I
am the Lord,
when I stretch
forth Mine hand
upon Egypt, and
bring out the
children of
Israel from
among them"
After God hardens
Pharaoh’s heart [makes
it harder than it was],
and Pharaoh resists
God’s will and refuses to
let the Hebrews go, God
then puts greater and
greater plagues upon
Egypt until even hard-
hearted Pharaoh gives in
and lets the people go.
But notice what God
does after this.
2. "For Pharaoh
will say of the
children of
Israel, They are
entangled in the
land, the
wilderness has
shut them in.
And I will
harden [Heb:
chazaq—to make
strong and
courageous]
Pharaoh’s heart,
that he shall
follow after
them; and I will
be honoured
upon Pharaoh,
and upon all his
host; that
Egyptians may
know that I am
the Lord. And
they did so" (Ex.
14:3-4).
Pharaoh was naturally
too soft of heart to resist
letting the Hebrews go,
and so God hardened his
soft heart so that he
would resist and would
not let the people go
until God first made a
great display of His
strength to the
Egyptians. And after
Pharaoh did let the
people go, God wanted
Pharaoh to try and
follow after them and kill
them. But this time we
find that Pharaoh’s heart
was too weak. And so
again, God strengthens
and gives courage to
Pharaoh’s weak heart,
and Pharaoh charges
after Israel only to be
totally defeated by God
in the Red Sea.
Well, there it is. How
hard is that to
understand? But who will
believe it? From
Pharaoh’s birth until his
death, God had a
purpose for Pharaoh’s
life, and God controlled
every aspect of it.
Pharaoh had not "free
will" in any of these
events. God changes
not; He operates the
same way in everyone’s life the same way today because He changeth not. Believe me from the day you where born and the way you will live your life and the day you die have already been pre-ordained by God you don't have any free will to change that it's a fact.
Now for maybe the most
profound and all-
encompassing
statements in all
Scripture:
"In Whom [GOD]
also we have
obtained
[‘obtained’ not
‘earned’] an
inheritance,
being
PREDESTINATED
[our ‘destiny’ was
‘pre’ arranged by
God, not us]
according to the
PURPOSE OF HIM
[not the free will,
OF US!] Who
WORKS ALL
THINGS
[EVERYthing]
AFTER THE
COUNSEL OF HIS
OWN WILL [not
OUR OWN WILL]"
(Eph. 1:11). In life you will either be a
vessel of honor or a
vessel of dishonor[Rom 9:21], and it
is ALL UP TO GOD! To be Continued. SHALOM.
Christianity EtcA Few Thought Regarding Christendom. by destiny4luv(op): 4:30pm On Nov 15, 2013
Let's take a ride around the world and doctrines of "CHRISTENDOM"
Understand that when I use the
word "Christendom" I am
making reference to Webster’s
second definition, "The world of
Christianity." World in the
Greek New Testament is kosmos
meaning the system or orderly
arrangement of the whole or
some part of human society.
And so it is this world or system
of doctrines and beliefs
promulgated by the clergy and
theologians of the
institutionalized church that I
make reference to when using
this term. I am not making
specific reference to individual
members of the "Christian"
church who may or may not
hold dear to their hearts all of
the doctrines of mainstream
Christendom. It is sadly true
that many who profess
Christianity do not know or
understand the doctrines of
those they follow.
So let it be known that
Christendom is made up of
dozens of millions of wonderful,
sweet, loving and kind people.
Many if not most of our
neighbors, friends, relatives,
and immediate family members
are professing Christians. And
we love them all! God loves
them all! Sadly, however, much
of their doctrine and religious
beliefs have no basis
whatsoever in the Sacred
Scriptures. At times I fear that
some might mistake my total
aversion toward unscriptural
Christian doctrines as a sign of
my feelings toward those who
promulgate these teachings.
Nothing could be further from
the truth. If you could look
down into my heart, you would
know that I harbor no ill toward
any brother or sister. All will be
in God’s Family; All will be
purged, purified, and perfected,
so why have any animosity
toward any during this process?
We must ALL be processed --
"there is NONE that does good
[before God processes him,]
no, not ONE" (Rom. 3:12).
Much of Christendom is a
religious system of beliefs that
are both unscriptural and
contradictory -- at times even
evil. Often when I quote a
Scripture people will say
to themselves, "Well that can’t
be. OUR church teaches
something totally different."
And so they will reject the
words of God and continue to
cling to the traditions of men.
For that reason, let me give you
just a few examples of the
unscriptural contradictions of
traditional Christendom in the
hope that God will open the
minds of at least some of my
readers.
THEY SPEAK WITH FORKED
TONGUE
Most all Christian theologians
would claim to believe the first
statement of Scriptural Truth
that I present below, especially
when I cite a Scripture verse
with it, but they will then
contradict and refuse to teach
the second statement of Truth.
Here are a few examples:
*Do they believe the fire in I
Cor.3:15 burns mans’
works, but not the man
himself? Yes.
But do they teach that this
same fire in Rev.20:15 also
burns works, not the man?
No.
*Do they believe that God is
the Creator of ALL? Yes.
But do they teach that God
created EVIL as He says in
(Isa. 45:7)? No.
Do they believe that God is
absolutely and totally
sovereign (Eph. 1:11)? Yes.
But do they teach that God
exercises sovereignty over
man’s supposed "free" will?
No.
*Do they believe that Jesus
Christ IS the Saviour of the
whole world (I Jn 4:14)?
Yes.
But do they teach that Jesus
Christ will SAVE the whole
world? No.
*Do they believe that
presently Christ only has
immortality (I Tim. 6:16)?
Yes.
But do they teach the truth
therefore that men’s souls
are mortal and not
immortal? No.
*Do they believe that the
original manuscripts of
God’s Word were inerrant?
Yes.
But do they teach us that
the King James translation,
which they say is "inerrant"
has gone through
THOUSANDS of error
corrections since 1611? No.
*Do they believe that the
soul that sins shall DIE
(Ezek. 18:4)? Yes.
But do they teach that souls
of deceased sinners are
actually DEAD? No.
*Do they believe there are
many cults today that need
exposing? Yes.
But do they teach that
Christendom, by its OWN
definitions, is also a cult?
No.
*Do they believe that Sodom
is "suffering the vengeance
of eternal [aeonian] fire?
Yes.
But do they teach that
Sodom will be restored to
their former estate (Ezek.
16:55)? No.
*Do they believe in a future
resurrection of dead people
back to life (John 5:29)?
Yes.
But do they teach that a
resurrection is imperative
for dead people to live
again? No.
*Do they believe the first half
of I Cor. 15:22 that "For as
in Adam ALL die?" Yes.
But do they teach the last
half, "even so in Christ shall
ALL be made alive?" No.
*Do they believe that "...the
end of the world [Gk: aion
-- age]" ends in Mat. 24:3?
Yes.
But do they teach that this
same "aion -- age" in Matt.
25:41 & 46 will also end.
No.
*Do they believe that Jn 3:13
& Acts 2:34 are truthful
Scripture (II Tim. 3:16)?
Yes.
But do they teach this truth
that "NO man," including
David, has gone to heaven?
No.
*Do they believe ALL God
purposed, spoke, and willed
(Isa. 46:10-11), He will do?
Yes.
But do they teach that
God’s "will" to save all, I
Tim. 2:4, etc., will be done?
No.
*Do they believe that Satan
lied when he told Eve, "thou
shalt not surely die?" Yes.
But do they teach the truth
that sinners really do DIE at
death as God has stated?
No.
*Do they believe that the
Apocryphal books do not
belong in the Bible? Yes.
But do they teach us that
the 1611 so-called
"inerrant" King James Bible
contained fourteen such
books, including "Tobit,"
"Judith," "The idol Bel and
the Dragon"? No.
*Do they believe that Christ is
totally responsibility for our
salvation? Yes.
But do they teach that "no
man can" come to Christ of
himself (John 6:44)? No.
*Do they believe that Satan is
the greatest sinner of all?
Yes.
But do they teach Jn. 8:44
which states that Satan
"sinned from the
beginning?" No.
*Do they believe Christ really
died for the sins of the
world? Yes.
But do they teach that Jesus
Christ was dead when they
placed Him in the tomb?
No.
*Do they believe the many
Scriptures that liken death
to "sleep?" Yes.
But do they teach that dead
people are unconscious,
"sleeping" till resurrection?
No.
*Do they believe that the last
enemy to be destroyed [Gk:
abolished] is death? Yes.
But do they teach that ALL
death, including the second
death, will be abolished?
No.
*Do they believe that all
things are possible with God
(Mark 10:27)? Yes.
But do they teach that it is
possible for God to save
nonbelievers after they die?
No.
*Do they believe that every
tongue in heaven and earth
will confess Jesus as LORD?
Yes.
But do they teach that the
Holy Spirit inspires this
sincere voluntary act (I Cor.
12:3)? No.
*Do they believe that good
and evil are both in the
same tree of knowledge?
Yes
But do they teach that good
and evil both come from the
same root source? No.
*Do they believe that God
absolutely "knows all" (I
John 3:20)? Yes.
But do they teach that God
knows in advance ALL who
will reject Christ? No.
*Do they believe that God’s
love will never fail (I Cor.
13:cool? Yes.
But do they teach that
God’s love will never fail in
saving the world He loves?
No.
*Do they believe the apostles
spoke in foreign languages
in Acts 2:4-11? Yes.
But do they teach that of
the hundreds of thousands
who claim to speak in
tongues today, not one of
them can speak in multiple
languages which they did
not already study? No.
*Do they believe that the
masses did not understand
Christ’s parables (Mat.
13:13)? Yes.
But do they teach that
Christ purposely didn’t want
them to understand, (Vs.
14-17)? No.
*Do they believe the Old
Covenant contained the Ten
Commandments
(Deut.4:12)? Yes.
But do they teach a New
Covenant which contains a
much higher law (Heb.
8:8-9)? No.
*Do they believe that God
created all the spirits and
messengers of heaven? Yes.
But do they teach that God
also created Satan who was
always His adversary? No.
*Do they believe that loving
our enemies means doing
good and not evil to them?
Yes.
But do they teach that God
will never subject His
enemies to eternal torture
and evil? No.
There seems to be no end to
the Scriptural contradictions of
Christian beliefs. I was once ignorant of all the above mentioned, not until God decides to open my eyes in His infinit mercies. But we can
learn from their mistakes. It is
good for us that God makes us
dig deep for the precious gems
of His word. It really is like
searching for hidden treasure.
And I have never found a
hidden treasure in God’s Word
that has disappointed me. Each
new discovery brings more
appreciation for God and His
plan of salvation for all. SHALOM.
Christianity EtcThe illusion Of "Free Will" (part 1) by destiny4luv(op):
I'm going to take you guys on a series i caption "THE ILLUSION OF FREE WILL". This is an idle of the heart that have eaten deep into the heart of many and will still do so long as this world remains. Believe me those who will be delivered and come to the knowledge of the truth from this idle of the heart "FREE WILL" will surely be delivered and come to the knowledge of the truth, but those who wouldn't be delivered from this idle of the heart will also surely not be delivered, because "It is not for him that willeth or him that runeth; but of the LORD that showeth MERCY. Remember also that GOD ALMIGHTY has made some vessel unto honour and some unto dis-honour, and to whom he choses to hardened or make loose He does according to His good pleasure.
Here it is, the magical source of
man’s imagined deity. It is, of
course, "HUMAN FREE WILL."
Or, as in the case with Satan,
"SATANIC FREE WILL." And just
what is human and satanic free
will? It is a fictitious power that
Satan and all humans imagine
they have, which gives them
the power to make choices that
have NO CAUSE. Do not
mistake what I have said.
Choice is not the power to
MAKE choices. We all have that
power. Choice is a power of the
brain, mind, and spirit. It is a
logical functioning mechanism.
Even a sophisticated computer
can "make choices" based on
other data at its disposal
contained in its memories. But
making choices is not ... I
repeat is NOT, judging,
determining or selecting
something BASED ON
NOTHING!!!
The first edict of the physical
universe is "CAUSE AND
EFFECT." There cannot be an
effect anywhere in the
universe, on earth, in a
laboratory under strict controls,
or in the mind of a human
being that does not have A
CAUSE! It is axiomatic! It is not
debatable! It is a LAW OF GOD!
And therefore, the most lawless
of all lawless conceptions
possible is that man can make
choices and decisions that are
NOT BROUGHT INTO
EXISTENCE BY EITHER
INTERNAL OR EXTERNAL
CAUSES AND FORCES!!! It is, in
fact, an attempt at nihilism of
the very laws of physics. And so
theologians, philosophers, and
the world’s greatest wisdom
thinkers would have us believe
that free will is a power even
greater than God Himself,
seeing that even God does not
think things, or create things
from NOTHING! God does NOT
operate the universe by
decisions based on nothing and
therefore having no cause.
"In Whom also we have
obtained an
inheritance, being
predestinated
according to the
purpose of Him Who
works [Greek: ‘is
operating’] ALL things
after [after what? His
‘free’ will?] ... After the
COUNSEL of His own
will" (Eph. 1:11)!
Nor does God create things out
of NOTHING:
"...IN [Greek is ‘in’ not
‘by’] Him [Christ] is ALL
CREATED, that in the
heavens and that on
the earth..." (Col. 1:16).
"For OUT [the Greek is
‘out’ not ‘of’] of Him and
THROUGH Him and FOR
[Greek is ‘for’ not ‘to’] is
ALL" (Rom. 11:36).
So creation is "IN Christ," but
"OUT of God." Not out of
"nothing." The universe consists
of the things of God’s already
eternally existing SELF. God is
SPIRIT (John 4:24). And what is
matter but invisible spiritual
power and energy?
"Through faith we
understand that the
worlds were framed by
the word of God, so
that THINGS which are
seen [physical matter]
were not made of
things [were they then
made of nothing? NO]
which DO
APPEAR" (Heb. 11:3).
There it is. God made
everything out of things that
DO NOT APPEAR [invisible
things] not out of things that do
appear [physical things], and
this is because GOD HIMSELF IS
INVISIBLE!
"Now to the King of the
eons, the incorruptible,
INVISIBLE, only, and
wise God..." (I Tim.
1:17).
God follows His own spiritual
laws. "Free will" sounds like a
marvelous and magical thing
it is rather, however, the god of
stupidity. It is the height of
man’s foolishness and human
wisdom. It is both ungodly and
unscriptural! It is an affront to
the Sovereignty of God. Man
and Satan are not deities that
can operate independently of
the Creator! The theory is a
hoax, a farce, a sham. Its only
reality is as an IDOL OF THE
HEART which will be burned out
of every son whom God
scourges.
Of course all theologians are
quick to point out that man
does not possess total free will.
Man's will is obviously limited
we are told. Oh really? So it is
"limited free will" that Satan
and all humans possess, is it?
Does no one ever bother to
question the contradictions of
Christian doctrine?
"Iimited, a. restricted,"
Webster’s Twentieth
Century Dictionary, page
963.
"free, a, without
restriction," Webster’s
Twentieth Century
dictionary, page
682.
Does everyone know the
meaning of the word
"contradiction?" Only Satan
could convince otherwise
intelligent people that they have
a "limited" -- restricted, "free"
without restriction "will." For
sure man has a will; however, it
is anything but FREE!
"For it is GOD which
works in you both to
WILL and to DO of His
good pleasure" (Phil.
2:13).
"To will" requires a "work" of
GOD! We all choose as we
choose because there are
things and forces and situations
by the millions beyond anyone’s
control that CAUSE US TO
CHOOSE AS WE DO! It matters
not that you cannot see or feel
the cause. It is there and it
does its work on you. And
when causes make you choose,
then that particular choice
could not have ever been
otherwise. God is the great
CAUSE of all there is. I know
Christians by the hundreds of
millions deny it and deny God's
Word that teaches it. That
unbelief and lack of faith,
however, does not change the
facts of God’s Word or the laws
of physics.
That God creates good and
peace there is no question. That
"Every good gift and
every perfect gift is
from above, and
cometh down from the
Father of lights, with
whom is no
variableness, neither
shadow of
turning" (James. 1:17),
There is also no question about
it among Christians. That God is
the creator of evil and
preordained the sin of Adam,
however, is believed by virtually
no one.
And so it is that neither man
nor Satan can do anything
contrary to the intention of
God. God has a will that
includes a final destiny of total
perfection of His whole
creation. God has set man and
Satan (his very name means
adversary) AGAINST HIS OWN
WILL for a period of time. But
during this period when
everyone goes against God’s
will, God INTENDS them to do
so. And when God no longer
"intends" for there to be any
more adversaries or enemies
opposing Him or His will, He
will remove all such opposition
(See I Cor. 15:21-28). ALL OF
GOD’S WILL, WILL THEN BE
DONE!
Therefore it should come as no
shock to us when we learn that
even the destruction and
crucifixion of His own Son was
God’s INTENTION from before
He even created the world:
The Kings of the earth stood
up, and the Rulers were
gathered together against
the LORD, and against HIS
CHRIST.
"For of a truth against
Thy Holy Child JESUS
Whom THOU [God the
Father] hast anointed,
both Herod, and
Pontius Pilate, with the
Gentiles, and the
people of Israel [God
anointed them ALL for
this purpose], were
gathered together, For
to do whatsoever THY
HAND [the very HAND OF
GOD], AND thy counsel
[God works ALL according
to His ‘counsel’ Eph.
1:11] determined
BEFORE [God
predestinated His Son’s
crucifixion before the
foundation of the world
Rev. 13:8] to be
done" (Acts 4:26-28).
And so we see that ultimately,
behind the scenes, it was really
God the Father Who planned
and brought about the
Crucifixion of His Own Son! We
are all accountable for the
death of His Son, because He
died on OUR BEHALF and for
OUR SINS which we voluntarily
sinned, but it is God Himself
Who is RESPONSIBLE for His
Son's Death. And God takes
responsibility. And He takes
responsibility for EVERYTHING
that happens in His creation
and universe! Therefore God
will bring all things back to
restoration and perfection. It is
so sad that this grand truth is so
violently opposed by the
enemies of the Cross.
There are three Scriptural
reasons for this evil doctrine of
eternal torture in a lake of fire:
1. "The heart [of carnal
unconverted mankind] is
DECEITFUL ABOVE ALL
THINGS, and
DESPERATELY WICKED:
who can know it" (Jer.
17:9).
2. "And the great dragon
was cast out, that old
serpent, called the
Devil, and Satan,
which DECEIVES THE
WHOLE
WORLD..." (Rev. 12:9).
3. "Because the carnal
[natural] mind is
enmity against God;
for it is not subject to
the law of God,
neither indeed can
be" (Rom. 8:7).
The inconsonant, incongruous,
inconsistent teachings of
Christendom are bewildering.
All my life I have heard that
God hates SIN, not the SINNER.
Why then, according to
Christendom, doesn’t God save
the sinner and abolish the sin?
Wasn’t that the purpose of God
in the first place? "Behold the
Lamb of God, which takes
[Greek: ‘is taking’] away the SIN
OF THE WORLD" (John 1:29).
"And He is the propitiation [to
be favorably inclined to the
sinner because of the sacrifice
for him -- merciful] for OUR
sins: and not for ours only, but
also THE SINS OF THE WHOLE
WORLD" (I John 2:2). As Christ
died for the sake of all sinners
and paid the penalty for all the
sins of the whole world, why
does Christendom teach that
these same sinners for which
Christ died must still be
tortured for eternity? Human free will sovereignty is
the ultimate example of
lawlessness. Plus, it contradicts
God and His Word in hundreds
of places. We don’t choose
Christ; Christ chooses us. We
can’t come to God unless and
until He draws [drags] us to
Christ. We have no faith of our
own—it is a gift of God. No
man seeks after God. No man is
good. Without Christ we can do
nothing. It is God Who even
causes us to will in the first
place. And yet, the Christian
Church has a doctrine of "free"
will which contradicts all of
these plain teachings of the
Bible. To be continued. SHALOM.
Christianity EtcDid The First Humans Malfunction? by destiny4luv(op): 5:16pm On Nov 14, 2013
Did the first
humans malfunction? Was
there a flaw in their original
design? God was the Designer;
is God to blame? Not according
to Christendom. Is He at least
responsible? Not according to
Christendom. But why not?
Now listen carefully. Here is
wisdom beyond its years. When
a scientist creates an
experiment or machine that
malfunctions, is he responsible
for the malfunction? Yes. Does
he hold the experiment or
machine responsible? No. Does
he hold God responsible? No.
Okay.
Now then, according to
Christendom, when God
creates an experiment or
machine that malfunctions, is
He responsible for the
malfunction? No. Does He hold
the experiment or machine
responsible? Yes. Does He hold
man responsible? Yes. See the
wisdom?
I have just shown you one
reason why God calls the
WISDOM of this world
STUPIDITY!
"For the wisdom of this
world is foolishness
[Greek: stupidity] with
God. For it is written,
He takes the wise in
their own craftiness" (I
Cor. 3:19).
First, Christendom assumes that
God’s creation of humans
malfunctioned -- it did NOT!
Second, they assume that God
is not responsible and does not
take responsibility -- He DOES!
One unscriptural assumption
added to another unscriptural
assumption does not equal a
Bible Truth! If a carnal-minded human can
take responsibility for an
invention that malfunctions, I
submit that God is bigger and
more responsible than puny
man. Be it known to all that
God takes full responsibility for
His creation, and absolutely
nothing in His creation is
malfunctioning. Here’s the
proof:
If a thousand Christians were
given the assignment to write
an essay describing the world
as it was after God completed
it, but before man sinned, I am
positive that we would get one
thousand essays describing the
unbelievable beauty, harmony,
and perfection of all creation
including man and beast.
However, would such essays be
based on the Scriptures? Let’s
look at a little understood
Scripture.
"For the creature [and/
or creation itself] was
MADE subject to
VANITY NOT
WILLINGLY [not by man's will], but by
reason of Him [that’s
God] Who HATH
SUBJECTED the same in
hope. Because the
creature itself also
shall be delivered from
the BONDAGE OF
CORRUPTION into the
glorious liberty of the
children of God. For we
know that the WHOLE
CREATION groans and
travails IN PAIN until
NOW" (Rom. 8:20-22)!
Wow! Did you know that
Scripture is in the Bible? Have
you ever meditated at length on
its meaning? This one Scripture
does much damage to Christian
doctrine. From a strictly carnal-
minded approach, this Scripture
is devastating. Let’s see what
these words entail from
Strong’s GREEK DICTIONARY OF
THE NEW TESTAMENT:
VANITY: empty,
profitless, vain,
transientness [temporary]
, depravity [wickedness].
BONDAGE: slavery,
subjection, subserviency.
CORRUPTION: shrivel,
wither, spoil, ruin,
deprave, defile, destroy,
decay, perish
GROAN: moan, calamity,
be in straits, murmur,
grief, grudge, anguish.
TRAVAIL: pangs, to pain
together, travail as in
birth. PAIN: anguish, toil for
daily subsistence,
starving.
The force of these verses in
Rom. 8:20-22 is inescapable. It
was God HIMSELF Who
subjected the whole creation to
vanity, and He didn’t ask
anyone’s permission before He
did it. And it is only God
Himself Who will deliver the
whole creation from the
bondage of corruption, pain,
and suffering. Make no mistake
about it: God is the Creator of
evil [Isa 45:6-7], and He takes full
responsibility for the
deliverance from the
consequences of all the evils
that have caused the creation
to "groan and travail in PAIN
until NOW" as Paul describes.
God takes responsibility for the
temporary failures of creation
so that He can take all the
credit and glory for its
successes.
And most of the glory that God
will receive is from the glory
that He gives to all mankind. "But with the precious
blood of Christ, as of a
lamb without blemish
and without spot: Who
verily was
FOREORDAINED BEFORE
THE FOUNDATION OF
THE WORLD, but was
manifested in these
last times for you" (I
Pet. 1:19-20).
"And all that dwell
upon the earth shall
worship him, whose
names are not written
in the book of life of
the Lamb [Christ] slain
from the FOUNDATION
OF THE WORLD" (Rev.
13:cool.
Is anyone so naive and blind as
to believe that God had
prepared a Lamb, a Sacrifice,
His SON, to be slain for the sins
of the world at a time when
theologians would have us
believe God didn’t even KNOW
there was shortly coming such
a thing as SIN? God knew; God
is smart! It was God Who
created the tree of the
knowledge of good and evil. It
was God Who placed it right in
the middle of the garden to
catch Eve’s eye. It was God
Who made the tree particularly
attractive and desirable. It was
God who placed in the humans
the desires and passions that
would CAUSE them to partake
of the forbidden fruit. It was
God who placed Satan the
serpent in the garden to tempt
Eve ]Gen 3:1] and fill her head with the
glories of enlightenment. It was
God Who had ALREADY made
preparation for their salvation
through the slain Lamb of GOD [1Cor 15:22]
Only ignorant and foolish
theologians would ever charge
God of being ignorant of the
conduct and behavior of His
own creation. It was not the
temptation or deception
entering INTO Eve that caused
her to sin and bring separation
from her Creator and God. It
was what was already in her
that caused her to sin. Proof:
"For out of the heart
proceed evil thoughts,
murders, adulteries,
fornications, thefts,
false witness,
blasphemies" (Mat.
15:19).
Notice it: "And when the
woman saw [in her
heart] that the tree was
good for food, and that
it was pleasant to the
eye [in her heart], and a
tree to be desired [in
her heart] to make one
wise [an idol of the heart]
, she took [’For out of
the heart proceed ...
thefts...’] of the fruit
thereof, and did
eat" (Gen. 3:6).
Did you notice that last phrase
"...and did eat"? It was not the
"eating" of the fruit that made
her a sinner -- she had
ALREADY sinned by looking,
lusting, and fantasizing about
her potential wisdom. It was
AFTER she sinned that she "did
eat."
The good news is that all of our
suffering is for a grand purpose
and will ultimately bring huge
rewards. Just two verses before,
Paul tells us how God subjected
the whole creation to these
many evils and he gives us this
comforting thought:
"For I reckon that the
sufferings of this
present time [’groaning
and travailing in pain
together until now’ Ver
22] are not worthy to
be compared with the
GLORY which shall be
revealed in US" (Ver. 18)
. Read and meditate on that verse a dozen time and u will surely be comforted. SHALOM.
Christianity EtcThe Lord's Prayer. [don't Ignore]. by destiny4luv(op): 3:19pm On Nov 14, 2013
NEVER FORGET THE ‘LORD’S PRAYER. A Scripture that
most clergymen avoid like the
plague. A Scripture that even if
they quote it, they will not
explain it. A Scripture that
debunks the heresy that a sin
against an infinite God demands
infinite punishment. A Scripture
that should shut the mouths of
all those who continually
condemn the teaching that God will
eventually save all sinners, even
the Hitlers and Bundys of the
world. A Scripture that proves
God loves sinners even while
they are yet sinners. A Scripture
that proves one doesn’t have to
prove himself "worthy" of God’s
love before God gives His love.
A Scripture that proves God
knows in advance that He will
save the very worst of sinners
and indeed ALL sinners long
before they ever even think of
repenting.
First we have to find the world’s
worst sinners -- no, even worse
than you. Check these out:
"I am innocent of the blood
of this JUST PERSON" (Mat.
27:24)
"They ALL [priests & citizens]
say unto him" (Ver 22)
"let Him be crucified"
"WHY, what evil hath He
done?" (Ver. 23)
"let Him be crucified"
"Jesus answered ... The
blind receive their sight,
and the lame walk, the
lepers are cleansed, and
the deaf hear, the dead are
raised up, and the poor
have the gospel preached
to them" (Matt. 11:4-5)
"crucify Him"
"Come unto me, all ye
[sinners] ... I will give you
rest" (Mat. 11:28)
"crucify Him"
"I [Jesus] have compassion
on the multitude [of sinners]
" (Mat. 15:32)
"crucify Him"
"For the Son of man is come
to save that which was lost"
(Mat. 18:11)
"crucify Him"
"And great multitudes
followed Him; and He
healed them" (Mat 19:2)
"crucify Him"
"Suffer little children...to
come unto Me" (Mat. 19:14)
"crucify Him"
"Who can be saved?...with
God all things are possible"
(Mat. 19:25-26)
"crucify Him"
"I am the Good Shepherd..."
(John 10:11)
"crucify Him"
"God anointed Jesus...who
went about doing good..."
(Acts 10:38)
"crucify Him"
"And the
multitudes ...cried...
‘Hosanna to the SON’" (Mat.
21:9)
"crucify Him"
"And they [same multitudes
as 21:19] all say ... (27:22)
"let Him be crucified"
"...to you all ... the entire
people of Israel ... Jesus
Christ ... whom" (Acts 4:10)
"you crucify"
"Then answered all the
people ... His blood be on
US... (Mat. 27:25)
"crucify Him"
"And they [everyone -- you,
me, all of us," (Mat. 27:35)
"CRUCIFIED HIM"
Now then, are you ready for
the Scripture? Are these cruel
murderers of the very Son of
God evil enough to be counted
the worst of the worst sinners
who have ever drawn breath?
Even more evil than Ted Bundy?
First, does anyone doubt that
God the Father ALWAYS heard
Christ’s prayers? "Father, I
thank thee that Thou HAST
HEARD me. And I knew that
thou HEAREST ME ALWAYS..."
(John 11:41-42). Okay then,
here’s the Scripture:
"And when they were
come to the place
which is called Calvary,
there they [everyone --
you, me, the WHOLE
WORLD] CRUCIFIED
HIM..."
But before our Saviour died, He
prayed this prayer:
"FATHER ... FORGIVE
THEM ... for they know
not what they do" (Luke
23:33-34).
Meditate on that verse for a few
hours -- or years! My prayer is
that not one person reading this
paper will ever forget this verse
and Christ’s prayer for the
forgiveness of the world's worst
of the worst sinners, before any
of them even thought to
repent.
Now if any of you, in your
holier-than-thou self-
righteousness, feel that you had
no part in the death of your
own Saviour, Who died for you
and your sins, you will still have
to contend with the fact that
God honored Christ’s prayer by
forgiving those who did,
literally, crucify Him, before
they ever repented or accepted
Him as their Lord and Saviour.
Do you think that just maybe
our Lord knows something
about the future judgment of
these, as of yet unrepentant
murderers, that is not taught in
Christendom today?
"FORGIVE THEM, for they
know not what they do." Was
this just a benevolent gesture
on Christ’s part that has no real
meaning? Do we believe that
Jesus’ God and Father turned
His back on this prayer? Will
God answer "THE LORD’S
PRAYER?" Don’t the theological
giants of Christendom have
Scriptures written in figurative,
metaphorical, and spiritual
symbolism, that if ignorantly
taught to be literal, will
contradict our Lord’s prayer? If
it is not possible for God to
forgive sinners before they
repent, then our Lord’s prayer
is doomed. It was then a prayer
in vain. Jesus prayed in vain.
His Father never heard Him.
Doesn’t it just grind on your
spirit to even hear such stupid
and unscriptural conjectures?
Millions of times a week people
around the world repeat what
they believe to be "The Lord’s
Prayer" (Mat. 6:10-13). Matt. 6
is not the "Lord’s prayer." He
didn’t "pray" that prayer. It was
a very short outline of what we
are to pray for. But this verse in
Luke 23:34, really is, "The
Lord’s Prayer!" Jesus really
DID ... PRAY ... THIS ...
PRAYER! Unlike the hypocritical
Pharisees, Jesus did not make a
habit of praying in public. He
commanded us to pray in the
private closet of our hearts.
Other than blessing the bread
when feeding the multitudes,
Christ seldom prayed in public.
But hanging in total agony on
that Passover cross, He prayed
in public. He prayed for the
whole world to hear. And that
is because His prayer was not
for Himself, but for the whole
world!
I will make a wager right here
and now that the figurative
symbols and metaphors in
Revelation are obviously not to
be taken literally, but that our
Lord’s Prayer in Luke 23:34 IS
to be taken literally. Do I have
any takers?
"Forgive THEM..." There is no
mistaking who the "THEM" are
in this prayer.
World famous preacher John
Hagee teaches the world that
the Jews did not crucify Jesus,
but rather the Romans did. Is
that who the "them" is in our
Lord’s Prayer? The ROMANS?
Give me a break. Maybe that’s
why Christians everywhere
believe that had they been in
Jerusalem on that fateful
Passover nearly two thousand
years ago, they would have
never consented to the
crucifixion of Jesus Christ! Peter
too thought that he would
never deny his Lord (Mat.
26:34).
Since Christendom refuses to
do it, I will now show you the
real meaning of The Lord’s
Prayer.
WHO IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR
THE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS?
True, the Romans did crucify
Christ, but so did the Jews, so
did you, so did I, and so did
John Hagee as well, and I will
now Scripturally prove it.
"For he is NOT a Jew,
which is one outwardly,
neither is that
circumcision, which is
outward in the flesh.
But he is a Jew, which is
one inwardly; and
circumcision is that of
the heart, in the spirit
and not in the letter;
whose praise is not of
men, but of God" (Rom.
2:28-29).
"For WE ARE THE
CIRCUMCISION, which
worship God in the
spirit, and rejoice in
Christ Jesus, and have
no confidence in the
flesh" (Phil. 3:3).
Who are the true circumcision
which then becomes the True
Jew? Paul says "we." As soon as
we know who the "we" is, we
will also know who is the
"them." Paul was writing to the
Philipians, who lived in Philippi,
a Gentile city in N-central
Macedonia. So these Philippian
converts were both Gentiles,
and true Jews ("we [Philippian
Gentiles] are the circumcision --
Phil. 3:3, which are the true
inward Jew -- Rom. 2:28-29,
the true "Israel of God" -- Gal.
6:16).
Now then, let us see the plain
Scriptural truth as to who the
"them" are that Jesus asked His
Father to "forgive." For
whomever the Father "forgives"
will certainly not be tortured in
an eternal hellhole of fire.
In Acts 3:6-8 Peter asks Christ
to heal a man. The whole city
was privy to this miracle. Peter
speaks to the crowd:
"Ye MEN OF ISRAEL
[that’s us, WE are the
"Israel of God" the "True
Jew"] ... Jesus, Whom ye
[that’s US] delivered up,
and DENIED [along with
Peter] Him ... For ye
[that’s US again] DENIED
the Holy One and Just,
and desired a murderer
to be granted unto you;
and KILLED the Prince
of life ... And now,
brethren, I am aware
that through
IGNORANCE [‘for they
know NOT what they do’]
ye did it, as did your
rulers ... The priests,
and the captain of the
temple, and the
Sadducees ... Annas the
high priest, and
Ciaphas, and John, and
Alexander ... Ye RULERS
of the people, and
ELDERS of Israel ... Be it
known unto YOU ALL,
and to ALL THE PEOPLE
OF ISRAEL, that by the
name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth, whom YE
CRUCIFIED..."
Why did the HEATHEN rage,
and the PEOPLE imagine vain
things? The KINGS OF THE
EARTH stood up, and the
RULERS [see I Cor. 2:8] were
gathered together AGAINST the
Lord, and AGAINST His
Christ ...
"For of a truth AGAINST
thy holy child Jesus,
whom thou hast
anointed, both Herod,
and Pontius Pilate,
WITH THE GENTILES
[that’s US, ALL NATIONS]
and the PEOPLE OF
ISRAEL [that’s also US],
were gathered
together, For to do
whatsoever Thy hand
and Thy counsel
determined before to
be done [CRUCIFY HIM]"
(Acts 3:12-4:28).
Sorry, but John Hagee’s
"Romans only" theory has just
bit the dust. So again: Who
crucified our Lord and Saviour?
And who is it that are to be
forgiven because they know not
what they do? "YOU ALL,"
"ALL THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL,"
"THE HEATHEN," "THE
PEOPLE," "THE KINGS OF THE
EARTH," "THE RULERS," and
"HEROD, PONTIUS PILATE,
WITH THE GENTILES!!! Do you
still think your name is left out
of this list somehow?
The whole world is accountable
for crucifying their Saviour Jesus
Christ. But as it was done in
"ignorance" (for they know not
what they do), the whole world
will be forgiven. So what do
these things have to do with the
lake of fire? Everything! I am
trying to show you the mind of
God. This is the way God thinks,
and feels, and forgives, and
LOVES! Since you haven’t
learned these things in Sunday
School, or Wednesday night
Bible Study, or Sunday
sermons, or even theological
seminary, I am showing you
them now. Weigh God’s Words
very carefully.
The worst sin ever committed
by the worst sinners in the
history of the universe, was the
cruel beating and crucifixion of
Jesus Christ -- the Perfect Man
and Son of God! Does anyone
really believe that Ted Bundy’s
crimes or Osama Bin Ladin were worse than
Crucifying the Son of God? Did
the men immediately
responsible (ultimately I’ve
shown that we ALL were
responsible) for His crucifixion
show any remorse or
repentance except Judas? Yet,
Jesus Christ asked God to
"forgive them" at the very
time that they showed no
remorse whatsoever.
Will the Father HEAR these
words and ANSWER these
words of Christ’s prayer? Are
these just the sentimental
words of Jesus that will not be
heard or answered by a HARSH
God in Heaven? Just Whose
"words" are these, anyway?
Where did these words of Jesus
"forgive them" really come
from?
"Believest thou not
that I am in the Father,
and the FATHER IN ME?
The WORDS that I speak
unto you I speak NOT
OF MYSELF; but the
Father that dwells in
Me, HE DOES THE
WORKS" (John 14:10).
Or was this doctrine of "forgive
them for they know not what
they do" before they ever
repent, a doctrine of Christ that
God did not approve of?
"Jesus answered them,
and said, My doctrine is
NOT MINE, but HIS
THAT SENT ME. If any
man will do His will, he
shall know of the
doctrine, whether it be
of GOD, or whether I
speak of myself " (John
7:16-17).
Any questions as to WHOSE
words these were? It is not only
our Lord’s prayer, but it is the
will of God the Father to forgive
them all (US all) for none of
them "knows what they do."
My detractors cry out, "They do
TOO know what they do; they
have REJECTED their Saviour;
they deserve to BURN IN THE
LAKE OF FIRE FOR EVER!" But
you see, God is not like men
who DELIGHT in the eternal
death and torture of the
wicked.
"As I live, saith the
Lord God, I have NO
pleasure in the death
[including the second
death] of the wicked;
but that the wicked
turn from his way and
live: turn ye, turn ye
from your evil ways; for
why will you die, O
house of Israel?" (Ezek.
33:11).
Killing people for their sins is
NOT PLEASURABLE FOR GOD!
But it is needful -- for a season.
"To everything there is
a season, and a time to
every purpose under
heaven: A time to be
born, and a time to
die ... a time to kill, and
a time to heal..." (Ecc.
3:1-3).
God does not delight or take
pleasure in the death of the
wicked, but that he TURN from
his way and LIVE! But neither
Israel (nor the Gentiles) knows
how to "turn" from their ways.
It takes the "goodness of God"
to "turn" people. I know that all
the billions of "free-willers" in
the world poke fun at such an
idea that mankind of
themselves can do nothing:
"...for without Me ye can do
NOTHING" (John 15;5). But as
for me, I don’t believe men
anymore; I believe God. "Turn,
turn, turn" says the Lord God.
But how shall Israel "turn"
when they have no such power
or ability? Will Israel (all Israel)
ever "turn" and be saved and
LIVE? Not by anything they can
conjure up in their phantom of
free will. Enter GOD:
"For I would not,
brethren, that ye
should be ignorant [but
the WORLD is ignorant
and deceived -- God
created a special creature
to accomplish this very
purpose, Rev. 12:9] of
this mystery, lest ye
should be wise in your
own conceits; that
blindness in part is
happened to Israel,
until [remember there
are ‘seasons’?] The
fullness of the Gentiles
be come in. And so ALL
ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED
[how so, I thought they
have to ‘turn’ from their
wickedness and sins, Who
will ‘turn’ them?] As it is
written, There shall
come out of Zion The
Deliverer, and shall
TURN AWAY
UNGODLINESS [’evil
ways’ Ezek. 33:11] from
Jacob [that’s Israel]: For
this is my covenant
unto them, when I shall
TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS
(Rom 11:25-27) [it will be
pretty hard to torture
people for all eternity for
sins that they NO LONGER
HAVE!!!]
Am I going too fast for anyone?
This is not rocket science. These
Scriptures are easy!
Who is it that "turns away"
ungodliness from Israel? Must
sinners really, by themselves,
by their phantom "free -will,"
by their own power, by their
own choice, by the goodness
that lies within them (I speak as
a fool), by their self-concocted
love of God -- "turn away from
ungodliness?" Get serious. What
is the only thing in the universe
that can ever bring a person to
repentance? I’ll tell you, if you
promise to never ever forget it!
"Or are you despising
the riches of His
goodness and
forbearance and
longsuffering; not
knowing [here’s that
ignorance thing again --
Satan who DECEIVES the
whole world] that the
GOODNESS OF GOD
leads you to
REPENTANCE" (Rom.
2:4).
Once again we are brought back
to the CAUSE OF ALL -- GOD!
And so, it is the
"Deliverer" (Christ the Lord,)
not man’s ‘free’ will, which
"turns away ungodliness" from
Israel. Let’s continue the
thought: "As concerning the
gospel, they [Israel] are
enemies for your sakes
[the ‘casting away’ of
Israel, Ver. 15]: but as
touching the election
[the sure thing that God
had predetermined long
before there ever was an
Israel] they are
BELOVED for the
Father's sake. For the
GIFTS and CALLING OF
GOD are without
repentance [changing]
" (Vers. 28-29).
"Forgive them" are the very
words and the doctrine of GOD
THE FATHER! So the truth is we
have Jesus Christ and God the
Father BOTH agreed that
"FORGIVE THEM, for they know
not what they do" WILL BE
ANSWERED, ACCOMPLISHED,
AND DONE! God’s words went
out of God’s mouth in this
prayer for the whole sinful
world to hear, and God’s words
do not return to Him VOID (see
Isaiah 55:11)!
Are you believing all these
Scriptures that I am giving you?
Or are you one of those who
thinks he has other Scriptures
that contradict all these
Scriptures I am giving? My
whole purpose is to point you
to God’s Words. When I come
to a Scripture that is not
properly translated, I will point
that out also. So far, I believe,
all of the Scriptures I have
presented speak for
themselves.
And it is self-evident that these
Scriptures contradict a plethora
of doctrines being taught by the
high priests of Christendom.
Will God somehow change his
mind toward this world of
sinners which crucified His Son
when they are raised at the
great white throne to be
judged? Forget all the Scriptures
for the moment that some of
you just "know" contradict this
prayer. Concentrate on this
prayer, and we will go to the
theirs later. Right here IS the
mind of God. Right here IS the
attitude of forgiveness and love
that God has for sinners -- the
world’s worst sinners! Why
does most of the world of
Christendom refuse to believe
our 'LORD'S PRAYER' which
really has its origin in the will of
the Father? Because it is TOO
GOOD! Many will not tolerate a
God THIS GOOD!
Is God fickle? Is God all-
forgiving one day at the cross,
but then CHANGES into an
unforgiving Indian-Giver at the
white throne judgment by
taking it all back?
"I am the LORD, I
CHANGE NOT; therefore
ye sons of Jacob [Israel]
are NOT
CONSUMED" (Malachi
3:6).
"But He [God] is in ONE
MIND, and who can
TURN HIM? And what
His soul desires [I Tim.
2:4 & Isa. 46:9-11] ,
EVEN THAT [whatever He
wills or desires] HE
DOES" (Job 23:13).
"Jesus Christ is the
SAME yesterday, and
today, and for ever
[Greek: ‘for (into) the eons
also’]" (Heb. 13:cool.
No, God is not fickle: forgiving
today, cursing tomorrow.
Forgiving the worst sinners in
the whole world while they are
yet sinning is the mind,
attitude, and love of God! Any
theologian who tries to tell you
that there are Scriptures that
contradict this Scripture
(whether it be a Scripture on
the lake of fire or any other
Scripture,) is a liar and a
deceiver. "Forgive them [even
the theologians who deny the
Christ Who died for them] for
they know not what they
do."
And so our Lord’s Prayer
WILL ... BE ... DONE! Thank
God! Until next time SHALOM.
Christianity EtcJesus Christ Our Saviour Will Fulfill His Commission by destiny4luv(op): 4:55pm On Nov 13, 2013
What will it take before we
really BELIEVE THE
SCRIPTURES? We hear a great
deal these days about "THE
GREAT COMMISSION," (as
though those talking about it
have a clue as to what it is).
Teaching the gospel is certainly
commanded by our Lord, but
the greatest thing about the
gospel is never taught by most
evangelists. That Jesus Christ
died to save a small fraction of
sinners is only a small fraction
of the gospel. And the gospel is
not the Great Commission.
Would you like to know what
The Great Commission really is?
Okay, here it is: "And we have
seen and do testify that the
Father sent [Gk: apostello, to
send out on a mission—
commission] TO BE THE
SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD" (I
John 4:14)! See Second Witness
in John 3:17. Now if anyone
knows of a GREATER mission or
commission than this, I am
sure we would all like to know
what it is?
Now it would only be fitting that
such a Dignitary ought to have
a name that exemplifies so
great a commission:
"Wherefore God also
has highly EXALTED
HIM, and given Him A
NAME WHICH IS ABOVE
EVERY NAME: That at
THE NAME OF JESUS
[Jehovah-SAVIOUR]…"
(Phil. 2:9). See Second
Witness in Eph. 1:21.
Okay then, we have the
"commission," and we have "a
name" befitting that
commission, but do we have a
Son Who will do the works of
that commission or will He fail?
"…the works which the
Father hath given me
to finish, the same
works that I DO, bear
witness of Me…." (John
5:36).
A second witness: Did Jesus
take the works ("to be the
SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD"wink
seriously?
"I MUST WORK THE
WORKS [SAVE THE
WORLD] OF HIM THAT
SENT ME…." (John 9:4)!!!
What power might Jesus lack
that could disable or frustrate
this august commission of His
Father?
"ALL POWER IS GIVEN
UNTO ME in heaven and
in earth" (Matt. 28:18)!
See Second Witness in Dan.
7:14.
Has Jesus already proven that
He has enough power to
overcome all the "free wills" of
the world? "Be of good cheer;
I have OVERCOME THE
WORLD" (John 16:33).
See Second Witness in I John
4:4.
Maybe God doesn’t want the
whole world to be saved?
"Who WILL have all
men to be saved" (I
Tim. 2:4).
Second witness:
"For therefore we both
labour and suffer
reproach, because we
trust in the living God,
Who is the Saviour of
ALL MEN, especially
[but not exclusively] of
those who believe" (I
Tim. 4:10).
Doesn’t God will that most of
humanity will eternally perish in
the lake of fire?
"The Lord…is NOT
WILLING that ANY
should perish [eternally]
…" (II Peter. 3:9).
Second witness:
"And I, if I be lifted up
[on the cross] from the
earth, will draw ALL
MEN UNTO ME" (John
12:32).
But doesn’t the whole world
need first to have their sins
atoned for?
"And He is the
propitiation for our
sins, and not for our’s
only, but also for THE
SINS OF THE WHOLE
WORLD" (I John 2:2).
Second witness:
"The next day John
sees Jesus coming unto
him, and says, Behold
the Lamb of God, which
TAKES AWAY THE SIN OF
THE WORLD" (John 1:29)
.
Hasn’t theologians proven by
their interpretation of the "lake
of fire" that it is "impossible" to
save all mankind?
"Who then CAN be
saved? But Jesus
beheld them, and said
unto them, With men
this is impossible; but
with God ALL THINGS
ARE POSSIBLE" (Matt.
19:25-26).
See Second Witness in Job 42:2.
Isn’t it up to each individual to
"CHOOSE CHIRST" in order to
be saved?
"You have NOT CHOSEN
ME, but I have CHOSEN
YOU…" (John 15:16). I heard a popular theologian say at
one of his crusades that "we
must come to Christ all on our
own?" To not even pray for
those making that decision,
because that decision to "come
to Christ" must be theirs and
THEIRS ALONE?
"NO MAN CAN COME TO
ME [by his own free will
choice] except the
Father which has sent
me DRAW HIM [Greek:
DRAG HIM] and I WILL
raise him up at the last
day" (John 6:44).
See Second Witness in Verse
65.
Are you telling me that I never
did seek God ON MY OWN?
"There is NONE that
seeks after God" (Rom.
3:11b).
See Second Witness in Psalm
14:2.
But what if I believe that I can
and I do WILL to serve God on
my own.
"For it is GOD which
works IN you both TO
WILL and TO DO of His
good pleasure" (Phil.
2:13).
See Second Witness in I Cor.
15:10.
Well I know for a fact that it
says in Heb. 11:6 that without
faith it is impossible to please
God, so surely we must work
up our OWN FAITH in order to
please God?
"For by grace are ye
saved through FAITH;
and that [that ‘FAITH’] is
NOT OF YOURSELVES
[well where does it come
from then, if not from
US?]; it is the GIFT OF
GOD" (Eph. 2:cool.
Second Witness:
"…and what have you
that you did not
RECEIVE….?" (I Cor. 4:7)
.
But surely everyone will have to
acknowledge the RISEN Jesus
Christ as their Lord and their
Jesus [Jehovah-SAVIOUR]
before they can ever be saved,
so when does that happen?
"That at the name of
Jesus [Jehovah-Saviour—
THEIR Saviour] EVERY
knee should bow, in
heaven, and in earth,
and under the earth;
and that EVERY tongue
should confess [‘That if
thou shalt confess with
thy mouth the Lord
Jesus, and shalt believe
in thine heart that God
has raised Him from
the dead, THOU SHALT
BE SAVED, Rom. 10:9)]
that Jesus Christ [The
Christ that God ‘raised
from the dead.’ Christ was
already ‘RISEN’ when this
was written in Phil. 2:11]
is Lord [‘Lord’ means
‘master’—acknowledging
Christ as Master of their
lives], to the glory of
God the Father" (Phil.
2:10-11).
But doesn’t this sound like ALL
that we do to be saved is OF
GOD, and not of ourselves?
"God is operating ALL in
all" (I Cor. 12:6)
"Yet ALL is of God" (II
Cor. 5:18)
"For OF Him, and
THROUGH Him, and TO
Him, ARE ALL THINGS:
to Whom be glory for
ever. Amen" (Rom.
11:34)
"…being predestinated
according to the
purpose of Him Who
works ALL THINGS after
the counsel of His OWN
WILL" (Eph. 1:11).
This almost sounds like we can
do absolutely NOTHING on our
own to bring about our own
salvation.
"I am the vine, you are
the branches … for
without me you can do
NOTHING" (John 15:5).
All these Scriptures make it
sound as if the Church has
many worship practices that
are nothing but the
philosophies, commandments,
and traditions of men rather
than Scripture.
"Howbeit in vain do
they worship me,
teaching for doctrines
the commandments of
men…Full well you
reject the
commandments of God,
[like: ‘LOVE YOUR
ENEMIES’] that you may
keep your OWN
TRADITION" (Mark 7:7 &
9).
Am I failing to find even a
single Scriptural excuse for
Christ to FAIL in His Great
Commission? I hope so!
Perhaps your pastor knows of a
Scripture that will justify the
Christian concept that Jesus
Christ will FAIL to fulfill His
commission. If anyone finds
such a Scripture, be sure to e-
mail me immediately.
Maybe you will say that
I am being too negative and
expecting too much of our
Saviour. Shouldn’t I be content
that Jesus saves at least a few?
The small flock? The narrow
gate? The firstfruit? Is not a
FIVE PERCENT success rate
something to be praised and
awarded even if NINETY-FIVE
PERCENT of humanity are to be
lost and eternally tortured in a
lake of fire? Is FIVE PERCENT
considered a GOOD RETURN on
His investment according to our
Heavenly Father? Jesus gave
another parable about a Lord
[God] who gave five, two, and
one talents to each of his
servants ("But made Himself
[Jesus] of no reputation, and
took upon Him the form of a
SERVANT….," Phil. 2:7), and
later reckoned with them about
how well they did with their
talents. The two servants with
five and two talents were
praised and rewarded. The one
with one talent (TWENTY
PERCENT as much as the one
with five talents) gave his Lord
back his one talent to which the
Lord commanded:
"And cast ye the
unprofitable servant
into outer darkness;
there shall be weeping
and gnashing of teeth"
(Matt. 25:14-30).
The servant gave back to his
Lord ALL that He had given
him. Did the Lord consider that
something to be praised and
rewarded? DO YOU SUPPOSE
THAT GOD THE FATHER EXPECTS
NO MORE THAN THIS FROM
HIS OWN SON, JESUS
[JEHOVAH-SAVIOUR] THE
SAVIOUR OF THE WHOLE
WORLD? God the Father
commissioned HIS OWN SON to
do a job, which His Son agreed
to DO.
How many of you parents
would be content with your
children if they achieved the
SAME PERCENTAGE OF
SUCCESS, as the Church
attributes to Jesus Christ in
saving the world? Are five or
ten percent test scores from
your children in school
acceptable to you as parents?
What about if they get FIFTY
percent? If they always achieve
at least a fifty percent grade on
their papers, will you consider
that ACCEPTABLE? Fifty percent
is considerably higher and
better than what is attributed to
Jesus Christ for the work God
has set before Him! Do you
think that if Jesus saves FIFTY
percent of humanity that it will
be "good and acceptable" to
His Father?
NO! NO! A thousands times,
NO! I’ll show you what
percentage is "good and
acceptable" to God the Father:
"For THIS is GOOD AND
ACCEPTABLE in the
sight of God our
Saviour; Who will have
ALL men [What
percentage? Five percent?
Fifty percent?] … ALL
men to be saved..." (I
Tim. 2:3-4).
Jesus DIED FOR THE SINS OF
THE WORLD. That part of the
commission is finished ("IT IS
FINISHED" Jn. 19:30). The sins
of the whole world are already
forgiven,
"And He [Jesus-
SAVIOUR] is the
propitiation for our sins
and not for ours only,
but also for the sins of
the WHOLE WORLD" (I
John 2:2)
And,
"To wit that God was in
Christ, reconciling THE
WORLD unto Himself,
NOT imputing
[reckoning] THEIR
TRESPASSES [SINS]
AGAINST THEM" (II Cor.
5:19).
Why then is not the whole
world saved, NOW? Because
"dying for the sins of the world"
is not the total commission.
Well what pray tell could still be
remaining? Answer: JUDGMENT
and KNOWLEDGE!
"And as it is appointed
unto [all] men once to
die, but after this the
JUDGMENT" (Heb. 9:27)
"Who will have all men
to be saved, and to
come into the
KNOWLEDGE of the
truth" (I Tim. 2:4).
"For the EARTH shall be
FILLED with the
KNOWLEDGE of the
glory of the Lord, as
the waters cover the
sea" (Habakkuk 2:14).
"For when Thy [God’s]
JUDGMENTS are in the
earth, the inhabitants
of the world will LEARN
[that’s KNOWLEDGE]
righteousness" (Isaiah
26:9).
Rest assured that Jesus
[Jehovah-SAVIOUR] will not fail
to fulfill His commission and
become an unprofitable Servant
to His Father. And don’t let
anyone tell you that Jesus is
only the "potential" Saviour of
the world and that actually
getting saved is up to man! One
cannot even be the "potential
Saviour of the world," and yet
NOT save the world, because
that would be proof that the
"potential" was not really there
in the first place?
One cannot be the "SAVIOUR
OF THE WORLD," and yet, NOT
SAVE THE WORLD! "…that by the name of
Jesus Christ of
Nazareth, whom ye
crucified, Whom God
raised from the dead…
Neither is there
salvation in any other:
for there is none other
name under heaven
given among men,
whereby we MUST BE
SAVED" (acts 4:10 & 12)
.
"I [Jesus the Christ] am
the door: by ME if any
man enter in, HE SHALL
BE SAVED..." (John 10:9).
"And it shall come to
pass, that whosoever
shall call upon the
name of the Lord SHALL
BE SAVED" (Acts 2:21).
And, of course, EVERYONE in
heaven and earth will ultimately
believe this gospel:
"That at the name of
Jesus every knee
should bow, in heaven,
and in earth, and under
the earth; and that
every tongue should
confess that Jesus
Christ is Lord, to the
glory of God the Father. "So shall my WORD be
that goes forth OUT OF
MY MOUTH [just as in I
Tim. 2:4 and everywhere
else] it shall NOT return
into me void, but it
SHALL ACCOMPLISH
THAT WHICH I PLEASE,
and it SHALL PROSPER
IN THE THING WHERETO
I SENT IT" (Isaiah 55:11). "In whom also we have
obtained an
inheritance, being
predestinated
according to the
purpose of Him Who
works [operates] ALL
THINGS after the
COUNSEL of his own
WILL" (Eph. 1:11). Now then, will God’s "counsel"
stand? Answer:
"There are many
devices in a man’s
heart; nevertheless the
COUNSEL of the LORD,
that SHALL STAND"
(Prov. 19:21).
Will God’s "will" be done both
in the heavens and on the
earth? YES:
"Our Father Who art in
the heavens, hallowed
be Thy name. Thy
kingdom come. THY
WILL BE DONE in earth,
as it is in heaven" (Matt.
6:10).
More proof: When God speaks
something, is He so weak and
incapable as mortal men who
make great boasts and are
unable to accomplish their
boast?
"God is NOT a man, that
He should LIE [do we
think God LIES when He
says that He WILL save all
mankind in I Tim. 2:4?];
neither the son of man,
that He should repent:
hath He said, and shall
He not DO IT? Or has
He spoken [as in I Tim.
2:4 and many other
places], and shall He not
MAKE IT GOOD?"
(Numbers 23:19).
Well? Those of you who
contend with your Maker:
"Hath God SAID" in I Tim. 2:4
that He "WILL have all men to
be saved?" Well then, "SHALL
HE NOT DO IT?" (Num. 23:19).
Has "He [God] SPOKEN" in I
Tim. 2:4 and many other
places, that He "…WILL have
all men to be saved?" Well
then, "…shall He NOT MAKE
IT GOOD?" (Num. 23:19).
More proof:
"…Let God be TRUE
[Who says He "WILL
save ALL MANKIND"],
but every man a LIAR
[who says He WILL NOT
"save ALL MANKIND"]!
More proof:
"Remember the former
things of old: for I am
GOD, and there is none
else; I am GOD, and
there is none like Me.
Declaring the end from
the beginning, and
from ancient times the
things that are not yet
done, saying, My
counsel SHALL STAND,
and WILL DO ALL MY
PLEASURE [as in I Tim.
2:4 and everywhere else]:
Calling a ravenous bird
from the east [Cyrus?],
the man that executes
my counsel [just as the
king of Assyria] from a
far country: yea, I have
SPOKEN IT [as in I Tim.
2:4 and everywhere else]
I WILL ALSO BRING IT
TO PASS [as also in saving
all mankind]; I have
PURPOSED IT [as also in
saving all mankind] I
WILL ALSO DO IT"
(Isaiah 46:9-11) .
God says, "I WILL DO IT," and
He will also do EVERYTHING
ELSE that He has , said,
declared, spoken, desired,
counseled, willed, decreed,
or pleased in His Word!
By the way, God NEVER, EVER
"wishes" or "hopes" for
ANYTHING! He "desires" things
that absolutely are certain to
come about, but God never
wishes or hopes for things that
may or may not come about!
The very thought of God
"hoping" for something,
blasphemes His sovereignty!
Now then, how many of my
readers still believe that God
will NOT save all mankind as He
says He "WILLS" in I Tim. 2:4? May God Almighty grant u all His wisdom to understand His word in Jesus name.Amen. Until next time SHALOM.
Christianity EtcWill Christ Be JUSTIFY? by destiny4luv(op):
If Jesus died to save sinners, is
He going to save only some
sinners? His chosen Elect only?
By saving a few chosen elect
sinners, does that make Jesus
Christ, "The Saviour OF THE
WORLD" (I John 4:14, Act 17:31, Isa 26:9)? God
the Father of our Lord Jesus
Christ commissioned Jesus "TO
BE the Saviour of the world."
Will Jesus be justified by His
Father if He saves only a FEW?
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Nice outfit.
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wat has he said, rather than misinterpretation.
RomanceRe: Ladies, Have You Ever Asked A Guy Out ? by destiny4luv(m): 4:27pm On Aug 10, 2013
leonshom: Ladies ! Have you ever asked a Guy out, if yes,how does it turns out to be, and if No, what was stopping you? Though, the traditional thing is for guys to ask ladies out,but,let see how it turns out to be with some ladies who in one reason or the order had the cause to ask a guy out.

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