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Mark Zuckerberg may be amongst the richest men in the world, but his poverty mentality is ingrained.

He wears a T-shirt I won't even wear to jog.
He drives a car no correct girl in Nigeria will respond to if called from it.

Now he and his family are wearing a costume that is less than $68.

Who is he making the money for?
The mumu gives to charity forgetting that charity begins at home.
And the wise recipients of his charity lead lives more lavish than his. Bros he is happy with his life and family like that. Peace of mind its all that count.

May her gentle soul rest in peace. Take heart sir. The Lord is your strength at this trying time of your life.

U need to have something in u that will attract others to follow u online, like being an MC, a comedian, post comic videos online, good advertiser of goods and services for others, mingle with influential personality to post always on your page, if u can posses some of these its just a matter of time u will explode. I have seen people explode like this.

D Sist. Glo, D Sist Airtel. I grew up saw my elderly ones calling my mum Sister. The reason being that her younger brother my Uncle stayed with us while we where growing and he calls my mum Sister so we as kids follow suit and no body corrected us. And it has been like that till date. Calling her mummy or mumsy now sound very odd to us. The Sist all the way.

0805 071 3913

Please there should let them be. As far na white them dey husstle no wahala. Free hustlers please. Better job dey d country?

iamJ:
tell me u like me, i will hear


tell me u want to date me, i will hear


but if u ask me to marry u somtin is wrong wit u

Right on point bro. Lol

Stevengerd:
Let'em start paying bride price too.

Realy?

With the new trend going on lately, which i don't know where it emanate from, when ladies now go on their kneels to propose to their boyfriend.

My personal openion, it's so embarassing and a let to the dignity and pride of a woman. What a mess. Please whereever this is coming from it better go back there, it's not making any sense at all.

NL. what's your take on it?

In those days when PDP destroyed the economy for 16 years, a bag of rice was N7500 and a litre of petrol was N87.
A dollar was N170.
A 'Bajaj' motorcycle was N82,000
A 10kg bag of Semovita was N1,100
A 10kg bag of Wheat meal was N700
The Lagos-Abuja transport fare was N2500
A 75ml of palm-oil was N70
A bottle of Coca cola was N60
A tin of Peak milk was N80
A pack of Ciprotab drug was N1100
Infact, Those guys destroyed the economy totally! Wicked people!!!
....... ....... .......
Thank God for our APC Messiahs that have come to revive the economy;
a bag of rice is now N16,000 and a litre of petrol is now N350.
A dollar is N368!!!
A 'Bajaj' motorcycle is now N280,000
A 10kg bag of Semovita is now N3000
A 10kg bag of Wheat meal is now N2800
The Lagos - Abuja fare is now N15,500
A 75ml of palm oil is now N400
A bottle of Coca cola drink is now N100
A tin of Peak milk is now N220
A pack of 'Ciprotab' drug is now N3200
....... The most interesting fact about this is that
They did this in just 2years.
We need to give them 16years to do more.
_#God punish devil!!!!!!!_���

See the guy in question as your brother and u will just stop fantasizing about him.

Jesus disciples was not armed. The only thing his disciples did was to control the croud. Because most times Jesus belly have chance to walk along the way because most people want to see him or touch him. So all his disciple did was to reduce that by controlling them and without any armour.

NwaAmaikpe:


All I can say is that this thing is not 26-years old and his wedding is all shades of mediocrity.

Which one have u done? Celibrate with others and people will celebrate with u. Try and boot your reasoning faculty. I wish the lovely couple all the best in life.

Congrats to them. Wishing them the best of marital bliss. Oritsefemi my man. One luv bro.

GraveMan:
Using Left Hand To Give Smthn To Sum1 Is A Taboo In Yoruba Land...
100%

Bros, nor be d pikin fault say she was born left handed. U fit do ur pikin like that?

Bros d thing tire me. I just take the little girl out to ease are pains. The father believes he is doing the right thing even after trying to educate him in my own way.

Richy4:
OP what did you do after holding your self ?... Did u abandon him there to wallow up in ignorance just to post this ?

Please tell me you did not abandon that ignorant father at the hour of his needs

You will spend close to 8k to 10k monthy. I just use only my water dispenser, but because of the heat it also produce for hot water i spend 5k to 6k monthly.
Compare to the 2k or 3k i use b4 buying the water dispenser. I will advice u dont use electric gas on a pre-paid.

Good day Nairalanders, i returned from work and met my neighbour's 7years old daughter crying profusely. I got to find out from the dad what happened, only for him to tell me that his daughter is left handed and any thing she does she only uses her left hand. To eat, write, give something to someone etc.

So for that reason the dad had to give her a deep cut in one of her left fingers and put pepper in it and tied it.

He said his reason is for his daughter to start using her right hand. He said before the hand will heal she will be getting use to the right hand by then.

I almost gave this guy a sound slap i just hold myself. What kind of thing is this? Someone is born a lefty and some Africans/Nigerians sees it as a taboo for someone to be left handed. Nairalanders how una see this matter?

Burna Boy, "Yawa dey o". Na ur first track be that o when u tey blow, he be like say d track dey follow u now. I still like some of his hit track though.

Both

Picture yourself being
burned and tortured
without relief and
without any hope for
trillions of centuries.
Well, of course, we
humanly cannot imagine
such torture or such a
long period of time-our
minds and our emotions
are incapable of it. If any
sane Christian could
witness, even for a few
hours or a few days, the
kind of hideous torture
presented by Christian
doctrine, I believe he
would seriously
reconsider whether a
loving God is capable of
such sadistic
punishment. But
consider a trillion
centuries of such
torture? For WHAT? Who
is appreciating or
benefiting from the
specter of such a hell
hole of misery, pain,
sorrow, and total
despair? God the Father?
Christ Jesus? The Saints?
The heavenly Host?
Next, try to imagine this
torture for most of the
human race, continuing
for trillions upon trillions
of centuries. Try this: A
grain of sand contains
millions and millions of
atoms. Imagine that
every atom in the known
physical universe
represents a trillion
centuries of torture in
Hell. It would thus take
billions of trillions of
centuries just to
complete the atoms in a
single grain of sand. Now
imagine going to the
second grain of sand, the
third, the seven hundred
and eighty ninth billion
grain of sand, then all
the atoms in the Earth,
our Milky Way Galaxy,
the next closest galaxy,
the next billion closest
galaxies, etc., etc., ONE
ATOM (a trillion
centuries) AT A TIME!
Why don't you put down
this paper and think
about that length of
torture.
How far into eternity do
you suppose such a
mind-warping number of
centuries would take us?
It would take us
NOWHERE into eternity!
Victims of such a
heretical teaching as
eternal torment would
be NO closer to the end
of their ordeal after all
these trillions upon
trillions of centuries than
when they began. They
would not be ONE
SECOND closer to the
end of their suffering.
NO AMOUNT OF TIME
CONCEIVABLE CAN
DIMINISH AUGHT FROM
ETERNITY!
Yet, the world of
Christendom is teaching
all nations, that this is
the God of the Holy
Scriptures. Theologians
says: "Hell is fair." You
say: "Hell is justice."
I say, "you can't
recognize THE DEPTH OF
SATAN when it's staring
you in the face"!
This may be the god of
Christendom, but I
assure you it is NOT the
All Wise, All Knowing, All
Merciful, All Loving, All
Saving, ALMIGHTY GOD,
of the Holy Scriptures!
Christendom is fast
becoming the dominant
religion of the world. We
only need to consult
God's Word to see who
is "the god of this
world" (II Cor. 4:4), and
we will know who it is
that rules over these
world-deceiving
religions. " ... the ancient
serpent called Adversary
and Satan, who is
deceiving the WHOLE
INHABITED
EARTH" (Rev. 12:9). "For
such are FALSE
APOSTLES, fraudulent
workers, being
transfigured into
APOSTLES OF CHRIST.
And no marvel, for Satan
himself is being
transfigured into a
MESSENGER OF LIGHT
[not a red, hoofed
monster with horns and
a pitchfork]. It is no
great thing, then, if his
servants also are being
transfigured as
DISPENSERS OF
RIGHTEOUSNESS-whose
consummation shall be
according to their
acts" (II Cor. 11:13-15)!
These fraudulent apostles
even confess that Jesus
Christ is the Christ, yet
they are deceivers:
"Beware that no one
should be deceiving you.
For MANY shall be
coming IN MY NAME,
saying, 'I [Jesus] AM the
Christ!' and shall be
DECEIVING
MANY" (Matt. 24:4-5).
Jesus didn't say the
many would be deceived
by those coming in the
name of Satan, but by
those coming in His
name and teaching that
He (Jesus) IS the Christ!
I apologize for highly
understating my feelings
on this despicable
teaching.
Had you ever considered
the real horrors of this
teaching at any length, it
would have driven you to
the Word of God to
search these things out
as never before. Had
you not been so eager to
teach these traditions of
men, but rather really
studied the Greek words
in question, you could
have easily and quickly
discovered that the
"exact" words that God
inspired do in no way
support such a damnable
doctrine as "eternal
torment!"
If engineers and
scientists handled
dangerous chemicals and
explosives with the same
lawless, reckless
abandonment with which
theologians handle the
Word of God, all of the
laboratories of the world
would have exploded
long ago. Shalom.

Pastor Olu T: The sons of God

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Genesis 6:1-5

There are different schools of thought as to who the sons of God are in this particular verse, I will want to believe the reason is that man finds it difficult to comprehend how spiritual beings could have such relationship with man, so many when they come to this point assume the sons of God referred to are men devoted to serving the Lord. It was believed that after Cain was sent away from the presence of the Lord, he lived as a fugitive somewhere away from the remaining children of Adam and Eve, he built a city as the bible said and started a new kind of race who do not care much about God and was bad and wicked, are referred to as the sons of men. And that the remaining children of Adam and Eve which started with Enosh was also in a place of their own and lived away from Cain’ people who were bad and wicked, were referred to as the sons of God because they actually cared about God, seek to know Him better and try to rediscover what they lost in the Garden of Eden, so they started calling upon His name more and called themselves by the name of the Lord. Though to some extent this is right except in the case of the sons of God are the sons of Enosh, and the sons of men are the sons of Cain which does not correlate with the scripture and does not fully fit in the context of the times and dispensation they were in. Going through the scriptures from Genesis to Revelation, whenever the bible made mention of the sons of God, the bible meant supernatural beings (angels Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7; Daniel 3:25 before the coming of Christ though) and not just men that are devoted to God. This we look at more closely as we allow the scripture to explain itself and consider in context the times and seasons the event took place.

We will look closely at the context of the scripture and what prevails in that dispensation; during the early times when man was created it was a normal thing for the supernatural beings to have relations with man. It was not thought abnormal when the serpent talked to the woman and convinced her to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the identity of the serpent was fully known as that of a supernatural being, being the devil himself; though the serpent was just an animal, the devil possessed its body in order to be able to carry out his schemes. It is also a known fact from the scriptures that it was not just the devil that rebelled; there were other angels that joined in the rebellion, so if the devil could have had relations with humans as at the time, the other angels too can. Also during the time of Cain and Abel, the Lord spoke personally to Cain and warned him when he abhorred evil thoughts in his heart; the bible never portrayed Cain or Eve as being scared or seeing it as something weird. The truth was that even after the fall man still has spiritual abilities unlike today, man was still spiritual irrespective of the fall and could do supernatural things himself and relate with supernatural beings.

The sons of God that was mentioned in this scripture are actually the fallen angels (demons), who already have rebelled but still have some spiritual abilities to accomplish some things, and besides there was nothing for them to do any more because they had forsaken authority and their duties, so they were just perambulating the earth as their master the devil was and is still doing Job 1:7; 2:2.
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Are u sure u are a pastor?

Nahum777: You are right Texanomaly... God doesnt tempt anyone.

"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:" (James 1:13).

"But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed." (James 1:14).

And secondly as you have said that good people are tempted or good people go through sufferings e.t.c.

"Remember, I pray thee, who ever perished, being innocent? or where were the righteous cut off?" (Job 4:7).<<<so now you see that an innocent person does not perish, what happens is this, God refines His people in the furnace of affliction to draw them closer to Him, and if the righteous endure to the end, then it will be a bigger reward for them. How can you be righteous when you havent faced challengers to prove yourself?

"Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins." (Psalm 7:9). <<< yes the death, the sufferings e.t.c God does them all, the bad things He does it but He doesnt tempt anyone to sin.

"The LORD killeth, and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up." (1 Samuel 2:6).

deut 32 vs 39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

AMOS 3 VS 6 shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

PROVERBS 16 VS 4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea,
even the wicked for the day of evil

Like you said everyone one has a free will, its either you choose the devil in you or Christ in you, when afflictions come, as a righteous person you over come it.. Nice write up, it was a good read.

Free will is nothing but illusion, is what i call the depth of satan. Is there anything a man does on earth that is without a course? If something courses u to do something either good or bad how can u call such a thing as free will. Think about it whole heartedly.

According to Christendom,
Satan created himself. He was
supposedly a perfect archangel
and then CHANGED HIMSELF
INTO A DEVIL. Is this
Scripturally true? Who created
Satan?1. You are of your
FATHER the DEVIL [the
GREAT DRAGON, OLD
SERPENT, the DEVIL, and
SATAN {Hebrew for
Adversary -- I Pet. 5:8}
Rev. 12:9] , and the
lusts of your father ye
will do... He was a
murderer FROM THE
BEGINNING, and
abode not in the truth
[from the beginning],
because there is no
truth in him [from the
beginning]. When he
speaks a lie, he speaks
of his own: for he is a
liar [from the beginning]
, and the father [the
beginner] of it" (John
8:44).2. "Now the SERPENT
was more subtle than
any beast of the field
which the LORD GOD
had MADE..." (Gen.
3:1) God "made" this
serpent which TALKED
with Eve as an articulate,
intelligent creature.
Satan did not possess
this serpent of the field,
Satan was this serpent!
Satan doesn’t possess
snakes! Satan himself
was CREATED A
SERPENT. Even Paul
acknowledges that it was
"the SERPENT" that
deluded Eve, and not
some other creature
possessing a snake (II
Cor. 11:3).
"And I will put enmity
between thee and the
woman, and between
THY SEED and her
seed, it shall bruise
thy head, and thou
shalt bruise his
heel" (Gen. 3:15).
This serpent that shall
bruise the heel of Eve’s
seed (singular seed --
Christ) is clearly Satan
the Devil who also has
seed, "thy seed." Jesus
said, "You are of your
father the Devil...?"
(John 8:44). Satan the
Devil has "seed"; he is a
"father;" a father has
children and followers of
like nature. No literal
snake ever produced a
seed that bruised the
heel of Jesus. Snakes do
not "eat dust" but Satan
dines on mankind "Be
sober, be vigilant;
because your
adversary the devil, as
a roaring lion, walketh
about, seeking whom
he may devour [Greek:
(lit. or fig.) gulp entirely,
swallow up] I Pet. 5:.
And he seeks to devour
mankind who are "dust"
of the earth ("...for
dust thou art...." Gen.
3:19).
3. "By HIS SPIRIT He hath
garnished the
heavens; his HAND has
FORMED THE CROOKED
SERPENT" (Job 26:13).
God garnished the
heavens by His SPIRIT,
because they are a thing
of great glory, beauty,
and splendor. But the
crooked SERPENT God
formed by His "hand" --
at ARM'S LENGTH. Thus
indicating it was
something necessary,
but not of His HEART
AND SPIRIT! Satan is
called "the crooked
serpent." This word
crooked comes from a
Hebrew word that is not
translated "crooked"
anywhere else in the
Bible. The word in
Hebrew is bariach, and it
means "a fugitive,"
Strong’s #1281. And
"fugitive" is from the
Hebrew word nuwa,
Strong’s #5128, among
its several meanings are:
"to [go] up and down,"
and "to and fro," and to
"sift." Remember that
God names things
according to what they
are and what they do:
(A) "And the LORD [is
this a high enough
authority for everyone?]
Said unto SATAN [not a
heretofore archangel,]
Whence comest thou?
Then Satan answered
the LORD, and said,
‘From going TO AND
FRO in the earth, and
from walking UP AND
DOWN in it" (Job. 1:7
and 2:2).
It is the "crooked
[fugitive] SERPENT"
SATAN who goes "TO
AND FRO" and "UP AND
DOWN" in the earth!
God created Satan for
this purpose.
(B) "And the LORD said
[is this a high enough
authority for everyone?],
Simon, Simon, behold,
SATAN [not a heretofore
archangel] hath desired
to have you, that he
may SIFT you as
wheat" (Luke 22:31).
It is the "crooked
[fugitive] SERPENT"
SATAN who "SIFTS" men
like wheat! God created
Satan for this purpose.
4. "Behold, I have
created the smith
[that’s me] that blows
the coals in the fire,
and that brings forth
an instrument for His
work, and I have
CREATED THE WASTER
TO DESTROY" (Isaiah
54:16).
["waster" -- Hebrew:
shachath, decay, ruin,
batter, cast off, corrupt,
destroy, lose, mar,
perish, spill spoil --
UTTERLY WASTE, #7843,
p. 115, Strong’s Hebrew
and Chaldee Dictionary].
God created the
"WASTER," not the
archangel who later
supposedly became
Satan, but from the
BEGINNING God said He
created "The WASTER"
and He created him "TO
DESTROY." Now then,
WHOSE role is it to
"destroy" the flesh of
man so that the spirit
may be saved?
"In the name of our
Lord Jesus Christ,
when you are
gathered together,
and my spirit, with the
power of our Lord
Jesus Christ, To deliver
such an one UNTO
SATAN for
DESTRUCTION of the
flesh, that the spirit
may be saved in the
day of the Lord
Jesus" (I Cor. 5:4-5).
It is SATAN who was
created from his very
beginning to be "the
WASTER to DESTROY"
men’s flesh (carnal
mindedness) so that they
learn not to blaspheme
(I Tim. 1:20). Satan
started with Adam and
Eve and he isn’t finished
YET!5. "And no marvel [Gk: to
wonder with
ASTONISHMENT]; for
Satan himself is
transformed [Gk: meta
schematizo, transfigure
-- to change the outward
form or appearance, to
make GLORIOUS] into
an ANGEL OF LIGHT"
(II Cor. 11:14).6. I am the LORD, and
there is none else,
there is no God beside
me: I girded you,
though you have not
known me: That they
may know from the
rising of the sun, and
from the west, that
there none beside Me.
I am the LORD, and
there is none else. I
form the light, and
create darkness: I
make peace, AND
CREATE EVIL: I the
LORD do ALL [even the
creation of evil and even
the creation of Satan]
THESE THINGS" (Isaiah
45:5-7).
Satan is evil, God created
evil, God CREATED
SATAN!
7. "He that commits sin
is of the DEVIL [Gk:
Adversary, Satan] for
the Devil SINS FROM
THE BEGINNING. For
this purpose the Son
of God was
manifested, that He
might destroy the
WORKS of the Devil" (I
John 3:. So was it
AFTER a supposed
"Lucifer archangel"
metamorphosed into
Satan that he sinned, or
did Satan the Adversary
sin "from the
BEGINNING? The Scriptures teach the
diametric opposite from what
Christendom is teaching. But it
is mandatory that they teach
this lie, because it is mandatory
that they deny every Scripture
that says GOD CREATED EVIL or
EVIL CREATURES! It doesn’t fit
their theology. They must find a
way that allows God to torture
billions of people in fire without
being evil Himself or even
responsible for doing so. The
origin of sin and evil must be
placed on the creature rather
than the Creator. This way the
creature is responsible for
everything and the Creator is
responsible for nothing! (From theologians point of view). Read this a couple of time more with deeper understanding. SHALOM.

SPEAKING IN UNKNOWN
TONGUES
A God-given Spiritual
Manifestation of the SPIRIT?
Or, a Carnal Physical Display of
the FLESH?
Million of Pentecostals and
Charismatics (not to mention
other Protestant and Catholic
tongues speakers) claim to
possess a gift from God which
enables them to "speak in
unknown tongues." What is the
Scriptural truth regarding this
popular Christian doctrine
which is claimed to be a
primary proof that one either
does or does not possess God’s
Holy Spirit?
That there are millions of such
sincere people desirous of
worshiping God in truth as they
understand it, I have no doubt.
However, the truth will always
set us free, so shouldn’t we
desire the truth at all cost? Is it
possible that what appears to
many on the surface to be a
marvelous blessing from God is
in reality nothing more than a
physical display of the carnal
flesh? It behooves all tongues-
speakers to read this paper
carefully and prayerfully, with
an open mind and an open
Bible. If modern tongue-talking
is not of God, then those who
do it are not free, but in
bondage, and as such will never
be free or grow in God’s Truth.
TRYING THE SPIRITS
I John 4:1 tells us:
"Beloved, believe not
every spirit, but TRY
THE SPIRITS whether
they are of God:
because many false
prophets are gone out
into the world."
Notice that we are to "try the
spirits" because there are
"false prophets" in the world.
Therefore, it is axiomatic that
the words of these false
prophets are also false. What
then are "true spirits"?
"Sanctify them through
Your [the Father’s] truth:
YOUR WORD IS TRUTH"
(John 17:17.)
Next, where did Jesus get His
"words?"
"Believe you not that I
am in the Father, and
the Father in Me? The
WORDS that I speak
unto you I speak not of
Myself, but the Father
that dwells in Me, he
does the works" (John
14:10.)
So the Father’s words are
truth, and Jesus speaks the
Father’s words. Now notice
what kind of words Jesus
speaks:
"It is the spirit that
quickens [gives life]; the
flesh profits nothing:
the WORDS that I speak
unto you, THEY [the
‘words’] ARE SPIRIT, and
they are life" (John
6:63.)
And so we try the spirits by
testing the words of Christ
against those of the prophets to
see whether the words of a
prophet are true or false. THAT,
my friends is how we try the
spirits, not by looking into
someone’s eyes to see if they
are demon possessed or not.
One more important point we
want to make in trying the
spirits by using Christ’s
words of spirit, and that is to
see whether the Apostles spoke
these same spirit words of
truth.
Here is the admonition of Paul
regarding how and what we
teach:
"If any man teach
otherwise, and consent
not to the wholesome
words, even the WORDS
OF OUR LORD JESUS
CHRIST, and to the
doctrine which is
according to godliness;
he is proud, knowing
nothing" (I Tim. 6:3-4.)
By using the words of the
Apostles and the words of
Christ, we will be using the very
words of the Father, and
against these SPIRIT WORDS
can be tried all spirits—all
prophets. With this simple and
profound principle firmly in
mind, let us proceed to try the
spirits of tongue-talkers.
THE ONLY THREE EXAMPLES
OF SPEAKING IN TONGUES
Of the 20 times "tongues" is
used with reference to a gift
from God, there are only three
examples of anyone actually
speaking in another language:
[1] "And they were all
[the 120 disciples of
Christ] filled with the
Holy Spirit, and began
to speak with other
tongues [languages] as
the Spirit gave them
utterance. And there
were dwelling at
Jerusalem Jews, devout
men, out of every
nation under heaven.
Now when this was
noised abroad, the
multitude came
together, and were
confounded, because
that every man heard
them speak in his own
LANGUAGE.
And they were all
amazed and marveled,
saying one to another,
Behold, are not all
these which speak,
Galileans? And how
hear we every man in
our own tongue
[language/dialect],
wherein we were born?
Parthians, and Medes,
and Elamites, and the
dwellers in
Mesopotamia, and in
Judea, and Cappadocia,
in Pontus, and Asia,
Phrygia, and Pamphylia,
in Egypt, and in the
parts of Libya about
Cyrene, and the
strangers of Rome,
Jews and proselytes,
Cretes and Arabians we
do hear them speak in
our tongues the
wonderful works of
God" (Acts 2:7-11.)
Keep in mind that they spoke
of: "the wonderful works of
God"
[2] "For they heard
them [the Gentile house
of Cornelius] speak with
tongues, and magnify
God" (Acts 10:46.)
Keep in mind that they heard:
"God magnified"
[3] "And when Paul had
laid his hands upon
them [Gentile Ephesians],
the Holy Spirit came on
them, and they spoke
with tongues [languages]
, and prophesied" (Acts
19:6.)
Keep in mind that they:
"prophesied—that’s inspired
speaking from God"
There are no other examples of
anyone supernaturally speaking
in a language, in all Scripture.
Also, let it be known that there
is no known proof of any
persons since the time of these
miracles in the first century
Church of Christ speaking in any
of these above mentioned
languages, or any other known
modern language in which they
had no prior formal training.
CLARIFYING SOME VERY
IMPORTANT WORDS
The King James term "unknown
tongue" is itself part of the
confusion over understanding
this doctrine.
First, the word "unknown":
Is there even such a thing as an
"unknown" tongue in the
Scriptures? No, there isn’t.
Although most modern
translations have dropped the
word "unknown" from the
phrase "unknown tongue," the
King James retains it, and is
therefore still looked upon as
authority for the use of this
unscriptural term.
The erroneous term "unknown
tongue" is used but six times in
the King James (I Cor. 14:2, 4,
13, 14, 19, & 27,) and in every
instance, the word unknown is
in italics, signifying that the
original Greek manuscripts did
not contain this or any such
word. It was erroneously added
by the translators and should be
taken out. It only adds more
confusion to this little-
understood doctrine.
Hence, in our discussion we will
not be using this unscriptural
word.
Second, the words "tongue &
tongues":
The word translated both
"tongue" and "tongues" is the
Greek word glossa and aside
from meaning the organ of the
body used in speaking, it means
"a language." It is used in the
plural (tongues,) with reference
to supernaturally speaking in a
language (a foreign language,)
a total of 20 times, but only in
Acts and I Corinthians. Where
glossa is not a supernatural
gift, it is clearly used to
represent a known language, as
in Rev. 10:11, 13:7 & 17:15
where some combination of "…
peoples, and multitudes,
and nations and tongues [Gk:
glossa—languages]…" is
used.
So, in our discussion we will use
the proper translation,
"language or languages," in
place of the archaic and
somewhat ambiguous term
"tongue."
So clearly the disciples spoke in
languages on Pentecost, and
thereafter we have two
examples of Gentiles speaking
in languages. All remaining
references to languages (as a
gift from God) are discussed by
Paul in I Cor. 12, 13, and 14,
and nowhere else.
(Note: the statement in Mark
16:17, which states in part: "…
they shall speak with new
tongues" is part of what is
called, "The Longer Ending of
Mark," and is not found among
the oldest Greek Manuscripts.
Others contain it, but make
notation that it is
"questionable." It is also clear
that the Apostles did NOT speak
with "NEW tongues" 50 days
later on Pentecost, because we
have this undeniable statement
of Scripture stating that: "…we
do hear them speak in OUR
languages the wonderful
words of God".)
Now we know that the
languages of the Medes, Cretes,
Asians, Elamites, Parthians,
Egyptians, Arabians, etc.,
spoken on Pentecost were
anything but "new tongues,"
as these tongues/languages are
old as the hills.) And we know
that the Scriptures do not
contradict, so it is absurd for
any tongue-talkers to use this
very questionable verse as
justification for babbling
something they may contend is
a "new" or different kind of
language promised by Jesus.
THE PURPOSE AND
PRINCIPLES FOR SPEAKING
IN LANGUAGES
[1] Speaking in a language is
ALWAYS a special sign for an
unbeliever to hear a message in
his own language, not a sign for
believers:
"Wherefore languages
are for a SIGN, not to
them that believe, but
to them that believe
NOT…" (I Cor. 14:22.)
[2] Speaking in a language must
ALWAYS edify the Church:
"I would that you all
spoke with languages,
but rather that you
prophesied [that means
to give an inspired
message of God]: for
greater is he that
prophesies than he
that speaks with
languages, except he
interpret, that the
church may receive
EDIFYING" (I Cor. 14:5.)
[3] Speaking in a language
ALWAYS requires that [a] no
more than 2 or 3 speak on the
same occasion, that they [b]
speak one at a time, that there
has already been someone
selected who knows how to [c]
interpret the languages to be
spoken, and if no interpreter
can be found, then they [d]
cannot speak in the church:
"If any man speak in a
language, let it be by
two, or [a] at the most
by three, and that [b]
by course [one at a time]
, and [c] let one
interpret. But if there
be no interpreter, let
him [d] keep silence in
the church" (I Cor.
14:27-28.)
Keep these points in mind as we
proceed through the Scriptures
on this subject.
THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT
VERSUS A MORE EXCELLENT
WAY
In I Cor. 12 we read of two lists
of "spiritual gifts" from God.
And before listing them, Paul
clearly tells us:
"But the manifestation
of the Spirit is given to
every man to profit
withal" (Verse 7.)
There must be a "profit" or
"contribution to all" as the
Greek bears out, from these
gifts. As we will see conclusively
proved from Scripture, speaking
in a language is never ever to
be a physical spectacle for self-
aggrandizement of the flesh.
"For to one is given [not
to ‘all’, but to certain ones
only] by the Spirit the
word of wisdom; to
another the word of
knowledge by the same
Spirit; To another faith
by the same Spirit; to
another the gifts of
healing by the same
Spirit: To another the
working of miracles; to
another prophecy
[inspired speaking]; to
another discerning of
spirits; to another
divers kinds of tongues
[languages]; to another
the interpretation" (I
Cor. 12:8-10.)
In verse 28 Paul gives us
another list of gifts:
"And God has set some
in the church, first
apostles, secondarily
prophets, thirdly
teachers, after that
miracles, then gifts of
healing, helps,
governments,
diversities of
languages."
WHAT ARE "DIVERSITIES OF
LANGUAGES?"
I will now show you a truth
that I doubt any have heard
before, and yet it is right before
our eyes, albeit hidden in the
obscure translation of the King
James Version.
Can we know for sure, just
exactly WHAT these
"diversities of languages
were which Paul tells us are
"the manifestation of the
Spirit?" Is it even within the
realm of possibility that the gift
of these languages could be
totally different languages than
those spoken by the different
nationalities around the world?
In I Cor. 12:4 we read of
"diversities of gifts." In verse
6 we read of "diversities of
operations." Both times the
word "diversities" is translated
from the Greek word diairesis,
and it means "variety." And so
the word "diversities" is a
perfectly fine word to translate
it.
But in I Cor. 12:10 we read of:
"diverse kinds of
languages." In verse 28 we
read of: "diversities of
languages." And in I Cor.
14:10 we read of: "many
kinds of voices [sayings,
languages.]"
Now, get ready for this: All
three words "kinds,
diversities, & kinds" in the
above three verses are from the
same one Greek word (#1085,
genos.) Does the word "genos"
have a familiar sound to you?
How about words like "geno-
cide," "gen-eration," "gen-
ealogy," and "gen-ius," The
English words "kind" and
"diversities," do not at all
convey the way that this word
genos is used in Scripture.
Here is how Dr. Strong defines
this word—#1085:
"genos, kin, born,
country, diversity,
generation, kind, nation,
offspring, stock." (I
underlined certain words
in Strong’s definition for a
profound purpose.
Here is how "context" translates
the Greek word genos in other
Scriptures:
Mark 7:26—"The woman was
a Greek, a Syrophenician by
nation [Gk: genos]…" In this
verse it could have just
correctly been translated
"birth," but "diversity" or
"kind" would never suit.
Acts 4:6—"And Annas the
high priest, and Caiaphas,
and John, and Alexander,
and as many as were of the
kindred [Gk genos] of the
high priest…" Again,
"diversity" or "kind" would not
suit in this verse.
Acts 4:36b—"…The son of
consolation, a Levite, and of
the country [Gk: genos] of
Cyprus." "Diversity" or "kind"
could never be used here.
II Cor. 11:26— "In
journeyings often, in perils
of waters, in perils of
robbers, in perils by mine
own countrymen [Gk: genos]
…" These were real PEOPLE that
Paul was in peril of.
Gal. 1:14—"And profited in
the Jews’ religion above
many my equals in mine own
nation [Gk: genos]…" Here
genos speaks of nation or
nationality.
Rev. 22:16b— "I am the root
and the offspring [Gk: genos]
of David…" Also "offspring" in
Acts 17:28 & 29.
I Pet. 2:9—"But you are a
chosen generation [Gk:
genos], a royal priesthood, an
holy nation, a peculiar
people…" Notice the company
that genos keeps in this verse:
"generation, priesthood,
nation, people."
Phil. 3:5—"Circumcised the
eighth day, of the stock [Gk:
genos] of Israel, of the tribe
of Benjamin, an Hebrew…"
Notice the company that genos
keeps in this verse: the stock
of the nation Israel, of the
tribe of Benjamin, of the
much larger clan of Hebrews.
Surely a blind man can see that
genos carries the primary
connotation of that which deals
with: "where we were born,
our offspring, kindred,
country, stock, countrymen,
nation, and generation."
So just what "kinds,"
"diversities," and
"kinds" (genos, genos, and
genos) of languages is God
telling us of in I Cor. 12:10b,
28b & 14:10? Is He speaking of
hocus-pocus, idiotic, gibberish
in unknown tongues? OF
COURSE NOT.
And surely a blind man can see
that this spiritual gift was a gift
of "GENOS LANGUAGES"—The
real, working, every day
languages dealing with genos
which is translated throughout
the New Testament as: "where
one was born, offspring,
kindred, country, stock,
countrymen, nation, and
generation." Which languages
would also have to include
different dialects and regional
jargons. An impossible task for
any human, but no problem for
the Spirit of God.
This is why Paul boldly stated:
"I thank my God, I speak
with languages MORE than
ye all" (I Cor. 14:18.) Paul
traveled through dozens and
dozens of villages, towns, cities
and states, countries and
kingdoms. He spoke with kings
and peasants—among the very
same "every nation under
heaven" spoken of in Acts 2.
DO ALL SPEAK WITH
LANGUAGES?
In I Cor. 12:29-30, we are told
something amazing—
something that totally
contradicts the tongues-
speakers claim that the gift of
speaking in languages is
absolutely necessary as a proof
that one actually has God’s Holy
Spirit:
"Are all apostles? Are
all prophets? Are all
teachers? Are all
workers of miracles?
Have all the gifts of
healing? Do all speak
with languages? Do all
interpret?" (Verse
29-30.)
Actually these are not even
questions in the Greek, but
rather statements of fact.
Notice the following
translations:
"Not all [are] Apostles.
Not all [are] prophets,
Not all [are] teachers.
Not all [have] powers.
Not all [have] the
graces of healing. NOT
all are speaking
languages, Not all are
interpreting" (
Concordant Literal New
Testament)
"All are not Apostles;
all are not Prophets; all
are not Teachers; all
are not Powers; all
have not Gifts of Cures;
all do NOT speak in
different Languages; all
do not
interpret" (Emphatic
Diaglott.)
There is no need to place a
question mark after these
statements of fact. Obviously
not "all" are apostles, and
likewise, "all do NOT speak in
different languages."
And furthermore, Paul already
told us in verses 8-10, that to
ONE is given this gift and to
ANOTHER a different gift, but
not all get all the gifts. Speaking
in a language is not the only
sign of one having God’s Holy
Spirit.
Then after giving us two
separate lists of spiritual gifts,
Paul tell us this:
"But covet earnestly
the best gifts: and yet
show I unto you A
MORE EXCELLENT
WAY" (I Cor. 12:31.)
What could be more excellent
than any or all of these gifts of
the Holy Spirit? Answer: LOVE!
"Though I speak with
the tongues of men
and of angels, and have
not charity [love] , I am
become as sounding
brass, or a tinkling
cymbal. And though I
have the gift of
prophecy, and
understand all
mysteries, and all
knowledge; and though
I have all faith, so that
I could remove
mountains, and have
not charity, I AM
NOTHING. And though I
bestow all my goods to
feed the poor, and
though I give my body
to be burned, and have
not charity, it profits
me nothing.
Charity [love] suffers
long [is patient], and is
kind; charity envies not
[is not jealous]; charity
vaunts not itself
[doesn’t brag or boast], is
not puffed up, does not
behave itself unseemly
[not immoral], seeks not
her own, is not easily
provoked, thinks no
evil; rejoices not in
iniquity, but rejoices in
the truth; bears all
things, believes all
things [all God’s Truths]
hopes all things [that
are promised in God’s
Word], endures all
things. CHARITY NEVER
FAILS…"
DID PAUL SPEAK THE
LANGUAGES OF ANGELS?
And so, spiritual gifts are fine,
but LOVE is the "MORE
excellent way." Some,
however, go so far as to
suggest that the language that
Paul and tongue-talkers speak
is: "the tongues/languages…
of angels" (Cor. 13:1.) Paul
absolutely never claimed to
speak in any such thing as the
"languages of angels." Here is
what he said, and the reason I
underlined it above:
"Though… I speak with
the tongues [languages]
of men AND ANGELS…"
Well we know that he did speak
with the languages of men, but
he adds, "AND angels," which
he decidedly did not do, hence
the word "though." The word
"though" in this context means
"suppose." It is a supposition,
not a fact.
Paul also said, "though… I
have… ALL knowledge," but
did he? No."though I have…
ALL faith," but did he? No.
"though I… give my body to
be BURNED" but did he?
Obviously not—Paul was
beheaded in Rome. And no, he
never spoke with the languages
of angels either—it was a
hypothetical statement made to
prove a point. To be continued....SHALOM

Swiftboy: Hmmm! True what you said but not in entirety.God still gave humanity free will but just like a computer programme,the condition is there for if human will will clash with God's will,its the devine will of God that'll super impose the former.Thats just the best logical explanation.GOD even empower human will not to sin but dont people still commit sins? Recall its written that God does not allow us to be tempted such that there wont be a way out! My opinion...thanks

Your analogy is not bad, but unfortunately it's not correct. Read the part 1&2 of this same topic i posted and also watch out for upcoming installment. God bless u sir.

WHO HAS RESISTED
GOD’S WILL?
So God has mercy upon
whom He will have
mercy and whom He
wills, He hardens. But
when I tell people that
this is how God operates,
they find fault with it.
They say that isn’t fair.
They say we are mere
puppets if this is the way
God operates. How can
God blame and punish
people for doing what
God Himself caused
them to do in the first
place? The Apostle Paul
got the same carnal-
minded criticisms of
God’s plan:
"You will say then
unto me, Why
does He [God] yet
find fault? For
who has resisted
His will [Greek:
boulema—‘resolve,
purpose, a
deliberate
intention’]?" (Rom.
9:19).
This is an amazing
Scripture. This Scripture
shows the difference in
attitude between those
who understand God’s
plan and will and those
who do not.
After explaining to the
Romans that God raised
Pharaoh up for a specific
purpose in God’s plan,
Paul foresees the
attitudes of his listeners.
They will reason that if
God is the One behind
our actions, and we are
totally incapable of doing
other than what He
determines we will do,
then WHY DOES HE FIND
FAULT WITH US WHEN
WE SIN?
First it is most important
that we look at and
understand the word
translated "will" in Rom.
9:19. It is not the usually
Greek word, which is
translated "will"
hundreds of times in the
New Testament. This
Greek word boulema is
used but twice in the
Bible, here in Rom. 9:19
and in Acts 27:43 where
it is translated "purpose."
So the question that Paul
is setting up is not "…
who has resisted His
will?" but rather, "who
has resisted His
purpose [His plan, His
intention]?"
To the question, "…who
has resisted His will?"
the answer is:
EVERYONE! But when
properly translated, to
the question, "who has
resisted His purpose?"
the answer is:
ABSOLUTELY NO ONE!
God has a will and God
has a plan and purpose
to reach that will. And no
small part of reaching
His desired will is to set
men against His will, just
as He did with Pharaoh.
But no one has ever
hindered God’s plan and
purpose in reaching that
goal and stated will.
God’s will, will be done
in His time.
So back to Paul’s
questioners: If God
causes us to do what we
do, and no one ever has
or ever can go against or
resist that purpose of
God, why does He blame
us when we sin? And
again, I will let Paul
answer, since the
question was directed to
him. But you know what?
Paul does not even deign
to answer their question.
That’s right, Paul
proposes the question
and then does not
directly answer it. He
considers the very
question itself too
demeaning, if not
blasphemous to answer.
Instead He says this:
"Nay but, O man,
WHO ARE YOU
that replies
against God?
Shall the thing
formed [that’s us]
say to Him that
formed it, [that’s
GOD] Why have
You made me
thus? Has not the
Potter [GOD]
power over the
clay [man], of the
same lump to
make one vessel
unto honour, and
another unto
dishonour?"
(Rom. 9:20-21).
GOD IS THE POTTER
AND WE ARE THE POT
Could anything be
plainer? God, the Potter,
does not owe an
explanation to the pot as
to why He made the pot
the way He desired! And
God desires to make
some pots honorable
and some pots
dishonorable. Why?
Because He is a mean
and nasty God? No,
because He has a plan, a
purpose, intentions, to
save all humanity in the
end. That IS THE "WILL"
OF GOD. And if you will
continue reading
chapters 10 and 11 of
Romans, you will plainly
see that those who are
lost along the way in
God’s plan will all be
saved in the end.
What is the conclusion of
the whole matter—and I
mean THE WHOLE
MATTER? How good of a
Potter is God? Will He
have to destroy most of
His pots for all eternity?
If God is the Potter and
we are the pot, how can
the pot be responsible
for ANYTHING?
This is God’s analogy, not
mine. Seriously, can a
pot be responsible for
anything?
GOD WILL SAVE ALL OF
HIS "POTS"
Not only will "ALL Israel
be saved" after God
brings them back from
the dead, but also all of
the Gentiles as well will
be saved. Let’s read it
together and believe:
"For God has
concluded them
all [both the
Israelites and the
Gentiles—see
verses 25-31] in
unbelief, that He
might have mercy
upon ALL. O the
depth of the
riches both of the
wisdom and
knowledge of
God? How
unsearchable are
His judgments,
and His ways past
finding out! For
who has known
the mind of the
Lord? Or who has
been His
counselor? Or
who has first
given to Him, and
it shall be
recompensed
unto him again?
For of Him, and
through Him, and
to Him, are all
things: to whom
be glory for ever.
Amen" (Rom.
11:32-36).
And so God knew exactly
what was needed to
make all of the disciples
change their wills, just as
He knew with Pharaoh.
God said that they would
change their wills and
forsake Jesus, and God
was not about to be
made a liar. Peter did
not even know what it
was that caused him to
deny Christ until the
"cock crew."
In our above example
with the disciples, not
only did they change
their emphatically stated
will, but, they did so
against their stated will.
Even when they willed to
change their will, they
did so against their
original desired will.
Peter did not want to
deny Christ. But he was
made to deny Christ by
the mere fact that the
alternative (fear) was
greater than his desire to
remain loyal. And so,
how was he "free" to
remain loyal? He wasn’t.
Peter was no more "free"
to not deny Jesus any
more than he was "free"
to be loyal in his original
choice. Both choices
were caused, and once
something is caused to
happen, it could never
had been otherwise.
Once the cause is set in
motion, the effect must
follow. This is true
Science and this is the
truth of Scripture.
Clearly God brought
about circumstances that
caused, made, forced,
Peter to do what he
didn’t want to do. How
then, can such a forced
will, be free? Peter did not
will to deny Jesus, but he
was clearly caused to do
so. This is an example of
how God causes men to
change their will even
when it is against their
initial will to do so. How
much easier and
unrecognizable are the
millions of choices we
make in which we very
willingly make the
decisions we do, because
they often appear to be
pleasant, profitable, and
desirable choices?
GOD NEVER CHANGES
But doesn’t God change
the way He operates
from time to time with
regards to man’s will? Let
God’s Word answer:
"And as a vesture
shall Thou fold
them up, and
they shall be
changed: but
THOU ART THE
SAME…" (Heb.
1:12).
"For I am the
Lord, I CHANGE
NOT…" (Mal. 3:6).
"Jesus Christ the
SAME yesterday,
and today, and
for ever" (Heb.
13:.
Now, had God
supernaturally
strengthened Peter’s
resolve to remain loyal
despite the tremendous
fear to give in, he would
have remained loyal,
because the greater
power will always be
dominant. And since God
is ALL mighty and ALL-
powerful He can
ALWAYS dominate.
One does not need to be
a rocket scientist to see
what God did in this
situation and all such
situations in the history
of the human race. First,
Jesus told His disciples
what they would do.
Then God brought about
the circumstances by
which they would have
to do what He said they
would do. Where is the
"free will" argument
against these facts? GOD USES OUR STUPID
WISDOM TO SHOW US
OUR FOLLY
Before conversion Peter
thought he possessed
free will:
"Peter answered
and said unto
Him, Though all
men shall be
offended
because of you,
YET WILL I NEVER
BE OFFENDED"
(Matt. 26:33).
Famous last words.
Jesus responded that
Peter had no more
freedom of the will to
stick by such a statement
than a donkey:
"Jesus said unto
him, Verily I say
unto thee, That
this night, before
the cock crow,
YOU SHALL DENY
ME thrice" (Ver.
34).
Peter again responds
from the pinnacle of his
presumed free will and
CORRECTS Jesus to His
face:
"Peter said unto
Him, Though I
should DIE WITH
THEE, YET WILL I
NOT DENY THEE.
Likewise also
said ALL THE
DISCIPLES" (Ver.
35).
And the rest is history.
When Peter was
confronted the third time
we read this:
"Then began he
to curse and to
swear, saying, I
KNOW NOT THE
MAN. And
immediately the
cock crew… And
he went out, and
wept bitterly"
(Matt. 26:74 &
75b). Free will?
Where? Give it up.
What about all of the
other disciples who also
thought they possessed
this power of free will
and self-determinism?
"But all this was
done, that the
Scriptures of the
prophets might
be fulfilled. Then
ALL THE
DISCIPLES
FORSOOK HIM,
AND FLED" (Matt.
26:56).
Free will? FREE will? FREE
WILL? Where? If you still
believe man has a will
that is "free" from
external and internal
causes, beyond his
control, then your
arguments are not with
me, but with God’s
Word. To be continued. SHALOM.

ITbomb: The most complete statement that described 'Free Will' in the scripture is Deuteronomy 30:11-20 (vs19).
From there , you can understand pre-destination more clearly .
Yes , God has pre-destined certain people for certain things but man's greatest attribute which makes him peculiar to other creations is free Will which enable man to decide whether to allow himself flow in the path God has chosen for him or chose another path to destruction.
ITLOL

Can man on his own supposed "FREE WILL" choose between good and evil without a CAUSE? If there is a CAUSE then that will is far from free. Read Romans 7:18-25 for more understanding. I pray this helps broaden ur understanding. SHALOM.

According to the story, i believe u know the pharaoh the scripture is refering to.

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Eminike, Mikel, Musa.