₦airaland Forum

aresssa:
Any government overstretched by these ordinary village houses or any kind of houses is worthless and should pack up shop.

The OP obviously just want to see the houses in his village.

Very senseless and meaningless thread I must say.

I know you are Yoruba and I bet you, I have been to far more places than you in yorubaland. kindly tell us how developed these places are in yorubaland though they are popular:

Ogbomosho

ise-eyin

Owo apart from poly and achievers uni there

ijebu

sagamu

ilara mokin

igbara-oke

Ilesha

other places in Oyo state apart from Ibadan

other places in ogun apart from mowe and ibafo area?

in furtherance of the above, Igbo youth should run down to

SOUTHEAST DEVELOPMENT FORUM

on Facebook to come deliberate on how to develop the region and hold office holders responsible for their actions.

Thank you

blues20:
I concur with your submission. I saw the wisdom in it.... even-though, its a herculean task, but it can be done. I'm currently building web application in that direction, once I'm done, I'll engage you to vet it; it should serve as a valid platform to project our goals/demands. Peace.

Thank you very much blues20,

This is what we need in this present time. We are going to achieve our aim through sheer hard work and connecting with the right people.

I know we are far better than the place we find ourselves. I believe if you and I can work things out we will achieve greatness. A nagging wife in the midst of wives, is the neglected one.

Times are changing and if you don't study the present time you are living in, you will be lost in the future. We have to put things in order because the future is close to us. The work is on our head. Other people have kings and chiefs who take responsibilities but we do not have anyone to carry our load for us. It might look bad but to be sincere, it is simple. A leader carry a heavy load which might be too much for him to bear but a load spread across the whole village will be light for everyone.

We need to start channelling our resources and time towards achieving positive things our people will gain. No amount spent on development is a waste because it will surely bounce back into our accounts, multiple folds.

dEastActivist:
What do you mean by " Let's fine tune our regional politics'' BC seriously people vote according to whom they dim fit. Buhari didn't impose them on us, we voted for them and got them elected. So please I will like to understand your point.

People vote who they are told is good for them. I can clean a dirty man and give you a thousand and one reason why this man can be a pastor. A logical man like you will want to think towards my logical reasoning because I will make it logical for you. That was how they fine tuned the man in power today.

Man in the real sense isn't free, once in awhile he is told what to do and some times he wants to be told what to do. This is what campaigners do, they tell you what to do.

Now to our own scenario, we can push ppl from different senatorial district who believes in our dream and wash him well for people to believe he is the Messiah. People will forget his sins immediately. Humans have forgiving spirit, do they will follow the person. Its matter of us winning the minds of the people, the other things can be fixed.

blues20:
@Develpeast: Your point is very matured. Have you gone through post I referenced you. I raised some important issues we could embark on.....

The one about the Facebook forum?

I have already requested to be added there.

You have a fine mind. You are a gold in igboland, trust me.

dEastActivist:
I love your view but it still needs some refinement. Igbos has a better chance of clinching the presidency in 2019.
I will like all the Igbos to start thinking towards that angle. Venture on this campaign and give it a second thought. Ol

Op I have been observing the thread, but this hate filled idiots won't stop causing nuisance here! Kudos though but reconsider your submissions.

The kingdom of God suffer violence and only men of violence takes it by force. We need to be radical in this campaign and make others see reasons with us.

I bet you, we have no chance at the presidency in 2019. Do not jump the gun. Let's keep off from national politics and face the real issue. There are better ways of getting what you want without fighting for the top position in the country. You all should understand that these northerners are still under the euphoria of being on top and there are not looking like people who will jeopardize this opportunity, so don't think the news you hear about his incompetence will bring him down in 2019, it will not work.

Let's fine tune our regional politics. Test run our capacity by voting our own person with our own interest in the senate and the house, then try it with the governor and local govt. when you see that your motives are yielding fruits, then u can gun for the top.

Politics isn't simple like you see it, it takes so much to defeat these guys.

nonaira:
I still cannot fathom why some SE Igbos still want to partake in this userless Nigeria. Seriously wtf did they feed una over there?

Rather than wasting your time in Nigeria, you goal is to be figuring out how to get out of that sinking ship. God...do you need more beating and insult in your body before you get other through your f2king head that as long as you stay in Nigeria, you'll NEVER progress

This is the time you stand and fight for what you believe in. I don't think many people believe in this entity Nigeria but what you have to understand is that, your people come first. When you look the other way and the other person looks the other way, who will look forward and move the people? We have been at the sidelines for 49years, doing things haphazardly.
The time to focus our torch to the future is now, your kids must ask you where you are from and it will be a shame that in the 30years, people will still say "I am going to my Village". What sort of statement is that? If you sit down and do nothing, your cousins, brother, sisters or relations will suffer from this bad decision u are making.

It is time to put your strength where it is needed. I am only being too cautious with what I want to tell you because deep inside of me, I wanted to say more.

SlayerSupreme:
My heart has totally and irrevocably left Nigeria. I have no interest whatsoever in it's useless politics particular as played at the federal level. My wish for Nigeria is that she burns to the high heavens. Good day.

What is your plan about your people? sit down and let everything collapse or what are you trying to do about their present situation?

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Good Morning Ndibayi

Yesterday I understood it will difficult for many of us to continue discussions because of our work but today is saturday , of which I believe many of us will be resting due to its weekend and most importantly "environmental day"

If you are an Igbo man and you are looking for a thread to argue in, please come in here and argue. bring up your progressive ideas and at the end we must make something out of this discussion. I know many of you do not like the present status quo, so let's come and get angry here without talking with emotional outburst but like a person who is lording over his emotions.

The development of igboland is the most important thing we need to chase now because the future of our children unborn depends on it. do not shy away from conversations like these because if you want something to happen, it depends solely on you to make it happen.

cc blues20, eternaltruth , igboid, lovemachine, and every other concerned minds.

You may never know, we are listening.

You all must not stop bringing up points. you all must keep talking and you must not mention another tribe here please.

I am not saying this out of the fact that I love your grammar, I am saying this so that you can really spill out your thoughts.

some of you are raising points without any drive in you. I only see this drive when you argue with other people.

it is not enough to have great points but it is good if you have the drive to push your thoughts.

please continue.

Invite other igbos from any side of the divide to come here. you must spill your thoughts now. its necessary.

blues20:
Thanks for the nudge back to track. These guys are hard to ignore..... I'm on your side.

You have an excellent mindset and if we push for something concrete in the region we will get it. What I have come to discover in igbos is that, we are willing to develop but we always get it wrong when it comes to choosing the right people to spearhead our needs.

Another thing is this, we are not doing anything for our region and we are not even trying to do anything about it. if we start having the mindset of doing something for our region, we will leave where we are.

there is a plan but we cannot just spill beans on the ground.

To all non-igbos in this thread. I know its a normal thing we argue and bash other people's tribe. I have seen quite a number here but please kindly postpone it to some other thread which will be more interesting to bash each other.

To the igbos, please let's discuss

blues20:
Who presidency or vp epp? Abeg make we see road. We will get it right this time.

please kindly continue talking and I am reading. please for the last time, do not reply them.

I am trying to organise something big about your line of thought which I have conceived for more than a year now. I have gotten some good minds here, of which we have discussed at length but we need more people to push with us so that we can consolidate our efforts from different state.

we are even looking at a bigger picture with what you have highlighted as elements of the big plan. if we can push further and have the people on our side. we can achieve more than we are even envisaging.

please, continue spilling out very good thoughts and stop replying people.

to other igbos here, please spill your thoughts and let's get something solid and not just typing.


please again continue.

I thought we are talking about something important but you guys have changed it to tribal bashing?

I need us to continue the conversation because I have more things to say.

soulpeppersoup:
That stove cannot be made in Aba with such finishing. Nigeria has not reach that copy cat level

sir, you just messed up with this comment.

downplay a woman's power at your own peril.
Ask the world's greatest caesar

catal:
the various ways of contacting them are on their website. just google south east leadership and dev initiative and u'll see the website

Thank you very much for this info. I want to be part of this initiative. we have the capacity to move things forward and we need to start doing the right thing now.

catal:
hopefully the upcoming south east leadership development initiative will help address it

Are you part of the planning committee or you have an insider info.

Anambra has way more number of billionaires in the state that what was stated here. in fact these ones are the noise makers. I am telling you from facts and figures. I don't know most of their names though.

Have you heard of the owner boskel? in pH city. that company spans a whole street and more. he deals on offshore hardware, he fabricates flare stacks of factories and refineries. if you see the number of workers pouring out of this man's company, nwanna, you will dodge your head. Close to that same man is another big boy doing oilservicing onshore. Massive investment too.

To be frank, if Igbos can come together and decide to takeover the development of the region. I think the highest population of people will be in east. these are guys who employ labour in numbers. God blessed igbos.. Some of these billionaires are in their 40, 50 and 60s.

lekwe ihe anya'm na fu

Averted:
It was an interactive program between the youths and both the Israelis and other dignitaries .
It was Empowerment program where Experts from different fields speaks and inculcates skills and success tips followed by question and answers.

Yeah we had an economic plan geared toward making southeast the Japan of Africa ..and the Israelis we soon come with their equipments and Israel community to the southeast . the economic plan was mainly based on Agriculture and green house farming so by next few years the South East will be exporting some Agricultural produce..

And Architect Emeka Okoye illustrated and setup a cooperate organization there that will become Millionaires in Five years with real estate business
and if it flops they should hold him accountable.

And many were said and discussed that I won't say here because of people from the other side.

There is an Israeli Training coming in the south east ..to gear up the talents of the igbos to the world.
Shalom.

Very good, that's a very good start.

You should have been more explicit. I wanted to attend the programme, I asked a few people here, no one gave me any information about it.

I don't stay in the east, I would have taken permission and come.

Averted:
am not understanding brah

what was the seyes programme about. no highlight, what was the topic of discuss.

Did the Igbo youth have an economic plan for the next coming years?

no 5, 10, 15 or 20years plan?
I asked someone here to give me info about this event but no one did.

nonsobaba:
Another senseless thread from a Wawa clown. As far as I am concerned, Anambra and Imo are the real Igbos. Others are just there to enlarge our coast.

I just need to see you. seriously, I will slap you and if you have strength, let's see who will win in combat.

FKO81:
You guys should stop living false life, take your time and read this

http://leadership.ng/blogposts/509791/needless-war-house-oduduwa

Needless War In The House Of Oduduwa

[b]Are Binis of today’s Edo of the Yoruba stock and what is the status of the Ijebu people in the Yoruba cosmogony?

These two-in-one questions posed will continue to dog Yoruba history. Despite the works of great historians like Samuel Johnson, Ade Ajayi, Espie, Ayanleye and the rest, the questions remain open-ended.

The recent hot exchanges between the Awujale of Ijebuland, Oba Sikiru Adetona and the Alake of Egbalnd, Oba Adedotun Gbadebo, were avoidable and expand the hiatus among the Yoruba people and their neighbours.

The ranking of five foremost Yoruba Obas by Alake was the agent provocateur this time. Picking holes in the ranking, the Awujale faulted the 1903 gazette cited by the Alake on the categorisation of Obas. Not being a son of Oduduwa, it would have been better to just steer clear of colonial creations, which were done by the rule of thumb during that period.

But, instead, Kabiyesi reached out to Oba of Lagos, Rilwan Akiolu, a self-confessed Bini man for validation. Oba Akiolu supported the Awujale. Since the two are not of Yoruba ancestry, it remained to be seen how ego would not take the place of logic.

Binis never considered themselves as of Yoruba stock. The house of Oduduwa considers it fallacious. With the Benin Kingdom countering that no Yoruba Oba was higher than the Oba of Benin, the political history of Yoruba got more suffused in mysticism rather than empiricism.

The Ijebus too, claimed to be superior to other Yorubas because, according to them, it was the fifth Awujale (king of Ijebu-Ode) that cured Oduduwa (the progenitors of the Yoruba race) of blindness. For them, if the father of all Yorubas was a beneficiary of their fifth ruler, it then meant that they had existed before the foundation of the Yoruba race or at least, before they got to Nigeria.

The first Awujale was said to have come from a place called Waddai, somewhere in present day Sudan. The people are different from their immediate neighbours in Ijebuland. Chief Obafemi Awolowo, the late political sage and a Remo man, sealed this a long time ago. Historically, people from that axis of Ijebu are from Iremo quarters in Ile-Ife and migrated to where they settled now near the Ijebu people. Hence they are called Ijebu-Remo. Most Ijebu towns towards Ondo and in Lagos States also claim their ancestry to Ile-Ife.

The myths and conundrum of these assertions may take eternity to decipher and made a mince meat of the royal diplomacy of 41-year-old Ooni Ogunwusi couched in oneness of the Yorubarace. His several visitations to those considered rivals to his predecessor, Oba Okunade Sijuwade may be a pipedream with the current verbal warfare.

Ooni, the Arole Oodua had gone to Alaafin of Oyo and Awujale in search of unity. Only last weekend, he took a wife from Benin kingdom, to underscore his quest to end the war of attrition tearing apart the house of Oduduwa as we know it.

Perhaps our royal fathers should be reminded that democracy has demystified claims embedded in orality and whittled down the influence of royal fathers who today exist at the mercy of council chairmen and state governments who decide who and when to enthrone chief/Oba/Emir or depose. These discretions are embedded in law and not the native authority that have no force of enforcement under our present constitutional arrangements.

For most radically minded people, it was a needless argy-baggy for an endangered institution to fan the embers of disunity and expose itself to a predatory system that doesn’t discriminate between a slave and free-born.

Definitely, they have different motives. Some of them are doing it out of patriotism and love of their immediate source of origins; just wanting to project pride in their own roots. Some are doing this out of mischief.

It is clear the professorial chair endowed by Oba Adetona will see democracy as more relevant for scholarship than studies in traditional monarchy.[/b]

It is better you ignore the thread than bring other people into your argument. After mentioning southwest, you will add hausas too.

n wanna biko nwere nwanyo

Diademk07:
You're speaking trash man!

Were you also chasing the enemy from the midwest while you destroyed and pilage Bini lands, killing and raping the Auchi brethren as well as appointing your kinsman, Okoro to govern them?

Did you expect us to lay low and allow you to have access through our land after all your stupid and greedy exploits in our neighbouring region?

You're an eediot and a clown!

if we had the motive to invade the Binis, you should be hearing about more ten thousand deaths in the area because they were defenseless. They were the ones who started the killings of biafran soldiers who camped there during their retreat from ore.

they served poisonous foods to biafrans, when biafran soldiers found out that some soldiers died from poison, they started maltreating them in the area.

Don't try and get the heading of any news, try as much as possible to get information from the right source, it helps.

SaffronSpice:
1.Your points are indistinct.
There was nothing like divisions in the Nigeria Army before the civil war. When did Yoruba claimed not to be a part of Nigeria?
Get this - what I mean by neutral is,Yorubas officers were not responsible for the coup(except for Adewale Ademoyega); although some Yoruba men were killed,Yorubas didn't join in the pogrom that followed.Those two incidents that Yorubas were unconnected to gave birth to the civil war,so why should they be roped into the squally sh!tstorm that followed.

using your own school of thought:

The Yoruba's were not part of the war. Adekunle and Obasanjo were Hausas?

Who gave gowon the idea of stopping food supply to the east?

who was the highest ranking officer in gowon's cabinet?

where did all the armour came in?

Don't give me that trash saying that yorubas were part of Nigeria and couldn't do a thing about it. Easterners were part of Nigeria when Ironsi was allowed to be bundled by the northern soldiers in Fajuyis house. Since we were all part of Nigeria, why didn't they fight to stop their head of state from been bundled?

I don't engage in this kind of arguments but do not raise wet points again

globe16:
I dont support mischief. Peter obi is a fraud.. If he wants my support he should start becoming honest and not mischievous. He is not my candidate.

I just want to know how important you are in choosing candidates.

I want to know if he was vying for a position and another man from another region is vying for same post, will you keep ur anger aside and vote for him?

Do you in all honesty Obiano is 100% clean?

He said something in the video, which you did not mind to pick. He said he is no saint, and you should not judge him as one.

Do you quickly forget teachings of your teacher just because you hate your teacher and he has done bad things before?

just reason things from a bigger point of view

globe16:
Peter obi is one of the cunniest politicians in Nigeria, his whole speech was aimed as obiano because obiano is doing far better than him and has also abandoned him.. Imagine a former governor saying rubbish like he cut costs by not using motorcycles in his convoy and some of the same gullible were cheering like zombies.. Ngige left about 33 billion after just 3 years for obi but Peter obi said he left 75 billion for his successor after 8 years. Find the details of the 75 billion below.. Rubbish

mehn! you need to shut up and allow him have his day!

are you this shallow and insecure about obiano's second term?

igbos are the most annoying people at times. The political strength of your brother just grew but you are just there to pull him down.

No matter what you say or do, he cannot vie for the governor position again, so he doesn't have anything to lose but your obiano has a lot to lose if he fails this time.

ike guru, seriously!

arresa:
[s][/s]




Obi claimed he left N75 billion while his successor is still claiming otherwise.


Obviously, somebody is lying and that somebody is Obi.


If he actually did not leave that amount, then exactly what did he do with that money?


E don take am clean mouth of course...

You know what he said in the course of his speech?

" I am no more in government, you can go and check"
he said something else,

"If you want to verify, go to access, diamond bank and one other bank to verify"

he gave dates and you should follow up.

its very easy, just ask and you will find.

I just found out that we have so many issues in this country and most are not from the government. People talk and think like kindergarten kids. See how they turned everything against him that its a trivial issue. Many people will surely die due to trivial issues. Major investigations see their breakthrough through simple lies because one lie is a squeezer of trust. One simple lie can destroy a contract. One simple lie can lead to mass-sack.

The commenters supporting the lying woman cannot and should not be seen in public offices and places of high repute. It would have been better they pasted names and pictures of such people online. They lack the capacity to deal with critical issues the way it should be dealt with. They should be kept in obscurity. Facing their own whack view of life.

Nickxtra, please feel cheated and angry that she lied this much. 6years isn't six days, my brother. Use this opportunity to ask more questions and fully truth of other lies she might have been dishing out since day 1. Assess those lies and see if you can move on with the marriage because I know you won't be able to consume another strong pill of lies again.

Age falsification wey dem use pursue person from presidency position, these olorikorobas de use am play.

I no know how I be Nigerian sef, kawai