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Ngozi123:
Maybe. I haven't really considered it tbf .

Ma'am you can lead, we just need not to be emotional about things like this because in the end, we are a better choice.

pchukwudi:
I had followed this thread keenly from the first moments it was created. I was just in observation mode (judt like many others) I am actually doing my level best to let all your unwarranted provocations slide, but I just have to say these:

1. You moved to mess up this thread and started the whole fight when you declared (without any provocation here) that Igbos will be poisoned and anihilated by Urorhbo women - including your mother.

2. You trivialised a valid point that debunked you funny claim that Nigeria is an El Dorado for the Igbos, thereby suggesting that millions of agitators are fools. (I'm sure you and your tribe cannot take that type of insult from someone else). Meanwhile, you conveniently ignored the fact that the issue was not just that the woman was mudered by a bunch of folks (whom you publicly admitted were criminals). The issue being raised is that your so called El Dorado government has offially proclaimed those criminal murderers guiltless WITHOUT a conclusive trial, yet you see nothing wrong in it.

3. Based on the way you responded to the issue above (and a few others) you give me the impression that your only reason for hating Biafra is the fear of having to be a lone moslem citezen in a grossly Christian dominated country. However, you are not bold enough to admit that you have this fear. Instead you try to hide it by pretending that you love Nigeria more. But truth is, you actually have nothing to fear about being a moslem in a Christian country. Or aren't you a moslem?

4. Do you know what ended the silly propaganda of splinter IPOB groups? It was the massive compliance to the sit at home order that was issued by IPOB without due notice to anyone and without prior consultations with any igbo authority. Now, in the face of the preceding realities, I don't know if you will ever understand how insulting it is for a non-igbo to make a statement like the ones you spewed below. Yet, when they call you names now you will start playing the victim.

5. As we speak right now, the ecosystem of the igbo elites is already filled with the Biafra discourse, and many want out while others believe that restructuring cum fiscal fedralism is a better move. But whichever way the debate goes, the elites are NOT the MAJORITY and the earlier you understand and accept that fact, the better.

Thank you for being the ancsestoral "protectors of Igbos" though.

Very intelligent and smart.

I had to stop arguing with him.

ak47mann:
you are right but we can't throw baby and the bath water away yet only time will tell

Very smart

thedarkside:
have you ever seen boko haram in action before..?,?..

they are fearless..and with guerelia tactics and religion practicaly unbeatable...

boko haram can never win a conventional war against the nigerian army...

only very few armies can defeat us in a conventional war....even america would have a tough time defeating us..

their is a reason why the capital was moved from lagos to abuja...its to make ready for any invasions from western nations...

What about avoiding probable enemies now. I think its cheaper than fighting a war and no loss of lives.

Its been a very long time since we had an external invasion which means our main problem is infighting.

Do you think with the right amenities, we will not be able to fight aggressors? No one can beat a coordinated army but a small army can defeat a big uncoordinated army.

blues2022:
Dude, with all our supposed super power army, we are still behind in the committee of nations. We can even manufacture common ak47 talk of nuclear warheads. Bro, its not about number, its organization and hyper brain work. Nigeria lacks it...... Common Boko boys they deal with our men, because of poor equipment.... niga whatz up with you

Modified: Japan don't currently have a conventional army. They operate a police defense system.... you can find out more. Use Google.

Very smart bro.

Thank you very much.

thedarkside:
the problem i have with biafra is that,if we deceide to realy push on with the biafra plans,our buy and sell power would be much less..

it will not be enough to compete with global-powers...

we will just be another powerless nation...and be toys for others...

in nigeria we have much more power with a fierce army that western nations fear...

What does a southerner sell that a man in zamfara buys? Very little or nothing to say the least.

What's the total population of the south south and south east? Maybe 60million or 70million. This is a fair population size.

With a population of 60million, we can create a strong military which will have access to very good amenities rather than too many soldiers with little amenities to practice with. Algeria has a smaller population than Nigeria but they have good military.

If Nigeria has a fierce army, bokoharam won't be killing colonels.

thedarkside:
ofcourse...

Kindly explain what you have to lose in Biafra.

thedarkside:
yes..

Can we discuss based on logical reasoning devoid of emotional banter of words?

thedarkside:
of all black-women na urhobo women you pick to insult..

he never see trouble...

Brother, anyone can say anything in a heated argument. So you don't judge a man because of that.

Are you an urhobo man?

pazienza:
This is idealism and not pragmatism.

There is no unity with those people, and they can't be used by anyone against us. They are too inconsequential.

We just let them be and secure whatever boundaries we have with them.

Have you stayed with them before? Or you based your argument on what you see on naira land.

Ngozi123:
I respect your opinion on this matter and I mean no disrespect when I say this but, and this goes for all of the Igbo posters trying to make their case against the op's arguments, your efforts spent arguing with this guy could be better spent elsewhere. Why isn't anyone questioning why they are having to go to such lengths to persuade other ethnic groups to join in the movement? If they want to join, let them join, if not then that's their business. I really don't care .

I would understand if it was an Igbo person you were trying to persuade but why would any Igbo person want to live in a country with people who clearly harbour Igbophobic sentiments? What exactly could you do to dissuade them from having these Igbophobic sentiments, short of denying your Igbo heritage? If they can't see now that we do not want to control them in a country where the Igbos are one of three majority tribes then how will they change their views when they're living in a country where the Igbos are the only majority tribe?

Because you don't make decisions based on argument but through agreement with leaders.

What does a follower know? They can only argue about the decision of the leader because the reason why they are followers is because they cannot see what the leader in front is seeing.

Madam, can you lead?

mathy001:
Urhobos will continue to side with Hausa and Yoruba to develop Nigeria and attack any group of persons who feel that they are so important when THEY ARE NOT!

Excessively emotional.

You can't be a leader.

hushuptimus:
Yes bro, they don't have wat it takes to provoke us. Though they may want to be use willingly as canon fodders for aggressors..... If the modality for the referendum will be an overall majority for all communities involved then I will suggest we lump them together with the ijoids and the itsekiroids cultural group. Small groups are easy to keep and can be administered easily too.
Direct them with cultural art, unite them with martial art" by sun tzu
Dont ever destroy or let go of small principalities, encourage them to contend with each other or keep them as a colony that way they will never be a threat to anyone. I said this because of border consolidation and tactical maneuver. I know I may sound as an expansionist but that's the only way for peaceful and prosperous Biafra....
The reasonable ones from that place(the place in question) know they can't help it but be part of the project. All igbophobic elements will be removed through cultural arts. And by martial art they will be one with us.

Very apt and devoid of emotions.

Many igbos have ceased to understand what leadership and power means.

pazienza:
Your women are naturally very ugly.
Every one knows this. Ain't nobody watching an ugly Urhobo girl masturbate with cucumber. You have to be beautiful, sex appealing to get the entire nation dying to watch your nude sex video. Ugly Urhobo girls simply don't have it.

It's nobodies fault. It's the fault of ugly Urhobo men that keep padding their ugly X chromosomes to ugly Urhobo women to create ugly Urhobo girls.

Ndo.

If you don't want good friends don't make bad enemies.

mathy001:
We love those other ones because they've not FORCED us into anything and while things may not be perfect, they have treated us more like brothers than our so-called neighbours.

The Igbophobia continues and I am a champion for it. Infact, I will personally spread the ideology to my people in OUR LANGUAGE if needs be.

An illiterate Yoruba man or Hausa man thinks you Igbo except you educate him and he'll say " you all are the same".

Who has treated you more like a brother, Yoruba's or Hausa's?

Yoruba man bombed your communities and a Hausa man took your resources and are going to kill your brothers again.

Now, what has the Igbo man done? Except supporting every bill you propose in the senate, supporting your brother to be president. Voting your brothers as governor in delta state.

Now, what do you have to lose that you haven't lost?

Who have you lost them to?

mathy001:
Speaking as if you are not happy and masturbating about that map because it shows a bigger region for your people.

The day I see that map or any like it anywhere in person, na tolopia go end am. If you want to know what tolopia means, go and check our history.

From what he said up there, you shut your mind to reason. Why?
Because he had already angered you before now. .

Igbo do not and have not done anything against you since day 1. So what's your fear?

mathy001:
All this one u are saying is for yourself o.

Igbos can carry Ibibio if they want. My own is simple. They should remove Urhobo and anything related to Urhoboland from their nonsense.


They shouldn't even MENTION URHOBO in anything Biafra related or else, we'll keep fighting them. If they want hostilities to stop, they should mend walls and use diplomacy, not forcing people into their maps.

Too emotional, very very emotional.

Easily gotten by words. Master your minds because leaders will not discuss like this at the end of the day but they will weigh options.

But mathy, just tell me what you have to lose joining igbos that you have not lost already?

pazienza:
Our border will be more porous with Igbophobic elements walking within our gates as fellow citizens.

Hostile neighbors? Yes. But we will prevail against any act of provocations from them , if we go about it the right way. We have lots of advantage over them. And I sincerely don't see them provoking us.

Stop saying some things, you are being too emotional.

Always cover your emotional side and be open.

nothing to lose bro.

pazienza:
You are nothing but inconsequential minorities.

You were never needed and are still not needed.
Better save that poison, cos you will need to use them on your fellow hateful beings in Ijaw and Itsekiri, when you lots resume you usual hostilities,at a time Ndiigbo had since left to form one helluva of a progressive nation Africa can for once be proud of.
We refuse to partake in any madhouse arrangements again, after we escape from this current one.

Who cares about your ugly looking Urhobo women
Biko zuzupuo kam neegharia anya

Ndi nwuru awu na aga ije.

Good command of English but less smart

sukkottt:
notwithstanding the bolded, you didnt list that as a condition, you simply said igboland has the best houses and i said it does not as you have alluded to. it matters not to me whether they got massive development from FG. getting massive development from FG is a testament to the intelligence of the people in lagos and abuja. like out of all the states why were those 2 chosen ? its because those two places are full of indigenous wise men who lobbied and got the FG to make their cities the capital. so you have to give kudos where it is due. and this is why those 2 regions have the most development and the best houses

The more you comment on this topic, the more you fail to have points. There's always point u need to stop talking and you have passed that, seriously.

I am not being rude, bro.

RockHard:
Yinmu. Qiut flattering yourself mr. man, trading isn't exclusive to igbos alone. Yorubas have traders too. They will simply fill the gap. Comprende??

A neutral ground like Kano where your brothers trade, how many of them were able to compete favourably with igbos and hausas? Guy, you are surely a learner.

Igbo businesses have hierarchy, you grow in business from a shop owner to a distributor, to an importer and you can even grow to manufacture few things. The top is slim but the igbos always have structure and the style of doing business which more than coming to my shop to get a piece of good.

CXLVII:
To the best of my knowledge, That Middle-East dude aint coming to Africa if he has plans of coming cos have been hearing same story for decades and my Grand-father told me his Great Grand-Father said same too. #MiddleEastStoryBook


Coupled with the sophisticated high precision armory Americans, China and Russians have now, If anything tries to appear in the airspace/Sky without seeking permission from where due, It will be outrightly be blown-off

warning: You must not be duller than this, okay?

Allsouls:
I think we should follow the foot step of Dr. maduka of Umuchukwu in anambra state and nnewi people who bring down their investments to their town, every igbo man should start to invest in the east. we should not look on those efulefus that used to hold meetings upon meetings every year without any action because majority of them conspired with the fg against our zone through taking bribe and ass licking.

Igbo's don't hear word that's the problem but i keep on telling them that one nigeria is just for mouth, when Denmark did cartoon they will kill you and burn your property but they will not hear.
They will call you nation builder, Ina eko na afuwa, i maghi na obu otito ntogbu for your foolishness.
How many Hausa Fulani did we see that build mansions in the east? but they are telling you one nigeria.

That's remind me one Igbo man and his family I met in side one remote hamlet in zurumi LGA of zamfara state boarder between nigeria and Niger republic.

I can never believe that I will see an Igbo man in that hamlet because no part of Igbo land is as remote as that, a place that has only bike route as the only means you can get to the settlement, no shop or market but only their suya in the evening .
I told the man that he will die Sara if care is not taken.

Intact we should stop bringing their corpse home is they die their, if it will make them to change their mind.

My brother, this is very annoying. When you think they are doing well wherever they are, you find out that they are dying there, in silence. These people cannot just go home and throw shame away. They are only good at feeling ashamed when they come home but not to outsiders.

Another annoying place igbos stay is in Kano I.e badawa and kawo environs. These places are worst places you can ever stay as a person. Sincerely, I ask myself, what kind of life are these people living there? They think they are better off than people living in the village? They don't know because they don't go home.

I will keep ringing it in people's ears, no place in Nigeria makes much sense. I have been to 90% of all areas in Nigeria due to the job I do. They have urban areas in those states while we have ours too. their rural areas are worse than ours. No potable water in most areas in the north and their sachet water is worst. They are amassing so much health issues for themselves.

I feel so bad seeing these people suffer, seriously.

What does the Igbo man need?

Ayi na nsoso ihe dimma na bayi?

We cannot wait for the centre anymore. This has been highlight by professor Ike and Ekweremadu.

We need to start pushing. Why do we have lazy minds here.

Words from an Igbo man in South east Development forum:

My brothers, we need power. We need to take action now! We need to protect our children's future even if some of us do not have any. We need to make our children believe in being Igbo. No one can make us important except we make ourselves important. Our elders have not been living up to expectation. They schedule different meetings but no concrete thing has been done about development in the region.

Are they too old to work and walk?

Are they too timid to fight for our right?

Are they too scared to stand for what is right?

Are they not the same people with chieftaincy titles here and there?

Why make mockery of our intelligence by organising more than 5 meetings in a year and not a single thing is felt in the land.

Why organise world Igbo congress when all their efforts will end up in lip service?

Why have they exposed us to shame and mouth washing?!

The people who cannot stand us in a common ground are rising above us to tell us what we shouldn't hear.

Why are we second class citizens in a country where we fought for its independence?

We must look inward and ask the right questions. I cannot live for more than 100years but my children and grandchildren will live more years than this. We need to prepare a system whereby they can grow and live comfortably.

One day, kano will unleash its anger on us.

Lagos will throw us out like tenants.

Abuja will demolish our homes and market places.

Other people will tell us how strange we are to them.

Is it then we will start planning to make igboland what its supposed to be?

Are you still going to call your state a village in 2030?

We need to infiltrate every Igbo in the country and abroad. It is an emergency situation. We need to start telling people what they need to hear. We need to start holding these governors accountable for their action because they are playing "hide and seek" with our future.

Our senators are morons, they can only lord on their people. Build big gates and forget that it is their people who voted then in they need to fight for. They go to abuja and mope. They will not live in peace. Agreeing to stupid bills at the expense of the people who voted them in. Onye muru ndia sef? Onwe onye were uche ne be?

We need to start asking questions!

We will not live like this any longer. We will not be shamed and left in abject poverty and underdevelopment. We need to fight for our future.

The time is now. Echi di ime!

You are igbo , you come here to argue about how our region is better than other region. After seeing so many likes, you feel you have achieved a lot and you go back to bed fulfilled and feeling like a boss.

But we have another Igbo man, who works day and night on a project to see the Igbo dream come alive. He hasn't engaged in any fight with anybody neither does he spend time arguing. He is trying to see a way a final solution to our teeming problems will be solved.

I have been to many places in this country, not that many of these places are superb, to be frank, I careless about those areas. The one thing that touches me about these places is that, I still see my brothers hanging around there and believing God for a miracle.

A case scenario: I was working in Daura. My project spanned throughout Katsina. I was able to see how these places are. From Maiadua to Jibia. From Funtua to Katsina town, etc. So one night, I was coming back from work to rest in my apartment in Daura. I decided to get toiletries. Close to where I was buying, I saw a man selling something. He spoke Igbo to his son that they should pack that its already late. I was moved to speak with him because he is my brother. I asked him what he was doing in Daura, he said he is trading. I got very angry and told him that, even if he opens this shop in the remotest village, he will still be successful. Why put you and your family in danger by coming to Daura to trade. Not even for a short time but till you grow old. He got angry too that what's my concern. I shouted at him that he should go back home and stop putting his children in danger. I was so vexed that I nearly wanted to scatter his business.

ogini k'unu ne me ne be?

what sort of downgrade is this?

If you think they are pursuing you in your village, no one is pursuing you in the next village. okay.

We need as a matter of urgency look into the development of the region.

I was in heartland hotel, Abuja where IMO state house is. The receptionist was just called that her brother's house in Kaduna south was burnt and he wants to relocate back home. I was very sad to see that my people just spend so much money to later regret every move. its very sad!

If you are Igbo and you are staying in the following areas:

Sabin Gari
Funtua
suleja
minna
badawa
gwagalada
zuba
nyanya
orile
ilaje
makoko
ilara mokin
sarki

and other crazy places.

What are you doing there? is it the ten kobo that you are making that you can't make at home?


It is time to go home! invest home now.

omofunaab:
You are the one being economical with the truth or maybe you are just ignorant like others

I said ogun has four international stadium, am i wrong?
I said ogun has the highest number of public tertiary institutions, am i wrong?
I said ogun has the highest number of private tertiary institutions, am i also wrong with that?

Please i only entertain reasonable arguments

You said the industries in ogun doesn't produce for ogun alone, did i tell you the industries in ogun state should produce for only ogun state?
The fact that they are in ogun State is what am talking about

And what is the rubbish you people have been saying that mowe, ibafo are lagos extensions

Are you guys ignorant or what.

The question i will ask you is that if really mowe, ibafo are ogun state towns. ?

It's not my fault that anambra is far from lagos.

You should read the factors that leads to localization of industries and tell me the benefits of localization of industries to the host community , maybe then you will understand why I said those areas are urban areas.

The fact is most of you don't know the benefit of locating industries in some areas to the host community.

Besides I don't understand why abia is before oyo state.. Even enugu is not even there

Nsukka has a university and other institutions but it doesn't make it an urban area. The four "international" stadium you mentioned are just normal places football is kicked. show me the real environment of the Ogun state you are shouting, please do. The Ogun state I know very well just started rearing its head out in this Amosun regime I.e Abeokuta itself.

You made mention of mowe, apart from the industries who cannot find land in Lagos and had to settle in nearby state, what other activities can be found in those areas I.e mowe, ibafo, etc.

Ogun state is coming up.

Egbon, mo ti lo gbogbo igboro ti e jabo. E ma lo ma kowa he, se gbo?

omofunaab:
Lol, anambra is before ogun and oyo state.

Most people underrate oyo state.

Oyo state was the capital of old western region,
It has many industrial estates.
Ibadan is a commercial city, many don't know that

Ibadan was the largest city in west Africa.

Oyo people don't usually shout.

Ogun has cities. Ijebu ode, sagamu, ifo, sango
Ogun has the highest number industries in Nigeria, it is closer to the Benin border which makes it thrives economically

Ogun has the highest number of public tertiary institutions and private tertiary institutions.

Ogun alone has four international stadia, otunba Dipo Dina international stadium, ijebu ode, sagamu international stadium, ilaro international stadium, and Mko Abiola international stadiums.

Ogun has olokola free trade zone in collaboration with ondo state.
Ogun has numerous industrial estates in mowe, ibafo, agbara, Ota etc..
The concentration of industries in many towns has changed most of these places to urban areas.
Abeokuta has one of the best roads in the country apart from the few federal roads

I don't know what your definition of urban means again

Be truthful to yourself, all these things you highlighted except
the industries are false. Many states have free trade zone, so what's the big deal about it.

The industries in Ogun do not produce for Ogun people. They produce there and swiftly transport to Lagos or other places
.

Ibafo, mowe and some parts of Ota are just Lagos extensions, dazall.

MyGeneration:
What a stup1d list.... please mods dont tk this to the front page.
How wud delta state be more urbanized dan Rivers state. Or Abia more urbanized dan kaduna nd oyo.
Its funny.

He isn't talking about states with more beautiful cities but most urbanized states. Many of these states are just one local government urban areas while some states have more. Notice IMO and Enugu are not there because though they have finer capitals, they don't have many places that are urbanized.

Now you get?

Women are quite funny. I met a lady when a cab was carrying me home from work. She looked distressed with what she was carrying with her sister. I told the cab man to carry the lady and her sister so that he'll just drop me at my gate and take them to wherever they are going. The cab man stopped and told the lady to come in. she came in and was acting funny and strict. I just told the cab man to drop me and I asked her where she was going. She told me and I paid the cab man to take her there. Yes, she said "thank you" and I said "you're welcome". She was thinking I'll ask for her number. I left her and her sister. She was just staring at me as if I forgot something in the cab.


Girls need to believe that men have soft spot for them when they are distressed and not anything close to asking them out. We have hot girlfriends at home, you know.

That guy signing you are sitting with is my friend, his name is Nonso Orji. Very good one bro.

Henrydone:
The latter cities u just mention are more of a cities than the best of ur city, if cities are defined in the same perception of u guy then every settlement in SW is a city.If we are to define city from the right perception then all settlement in SE will either be a village or emerging.And i saw onitsha in those picture, and u are already claiming u are talking about village anyway u are not far from the truth if u label onitsha a village.

ma lo ma paro ni tiredi yi

mo ti de gbogbo area ta nso.

I have been to all parts of southwest, stop lying. You guys have an attitude of developing your capital or area of traditional power. I know southwest very well bro