₦airaland Forum

olugirl:
i have lost count and am not yet even married, cos am not ready yet!

@ Olugirl:

I like your honest answer. It's in deed really possible to lost count, and UK girls that's participated in this type of survey which was conducted on another forum/site truly and honestly lost count. Nonetheless, they were very helpful in furnishing the research team with in depth information during in depth interviews. I noted you're in London. Will you be available for an in depth interview? It doesn’t have to be face-to-face or 1 on 1. We conduct recorded telephone interviews. Or, if you’re not comfortable with that, we can do so via a dedicated chat room. This research team is particularly keen to hold in depth interviews with Naija gals who, like yourself, had lost count. And, we’re more than willing to compensate for your time.

To be honest, this is a poll, and Nigerian women on NL would be kind enough to answer this question as honestly as possible. At least we're all here anonymously, so your husband wouldn't know you've dated so many men, assuming you actually did whilst a spinster. And, if he was the only guy, he would be the happiest that you weren't sleeping around.

ayettymama:
relevance??

Aims of the study:
1) To show the average number of men that Nigerian women dated before getting married.
2) To indicate how many Nigerian men actually dated women they never settled down with in holy matrimony
3) To highlight the level of sexual activity taking place during courtships/relationships which never resulted in a marriage

PLEASE KEEP THE ANWSERS COMING SISTERS AND MAMAS.

How many boyfriend(s) have you had to date, and how many of them tasted the fruit? Honest answers needed, please. No see me see trouble kind of responses, please. Gals and Mamas on NL, please get this rolling like rolling stone.

Scooby1:
well I met my Ex at a traffic light was asking her for direction to a club luckily for me she was also going to the same club so I followed her from there we hit off. Also met previous gf at work damn was disaster from the word go cause all her friends knew our business!   , met some thru friends & in uni .              
Good luck in your search  

How many ex's have you got? I reckon no less than 4 from this statement. Honestly, just curious!

Wednesday, February 17, 2010

Policeman dismissed, arraigned for killing man in Lagos

Olalekan Adetayo

The Lagos State Police Command on Tuesday dismissed a corporal, Segun Agbeyomi, attached to Pedro Police Station for allegedly killing an 18-year-old man.


Marvel Akpoyibo

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He was subsequently dragged before an Ebute- Meta Magistrate's Court (Court 12), Botanical Garden, on a one-count charge of murder. He has since been remanded in prison custody.

Agbeyomi was said to be a member of a five-man police team deployed on foot patrol along Access Road, Pedro, Lagos on Monday evening.

He was said to have allegedly opened fire on a Toyota Hiace bus marked XX 327 AKD at about 9pm, killing one of the two occupants identified as Ibru Okoma.

The command's Public Relations Officer, Mr. Frank Mba, told journalists on Tuesday that preliminary investigation conducted by the police showed that the shooting and eventual killing of the deceased was unprovoked and clearly unjustifiable under police rules of engagement as provided in Force Order 237.

Mba, a superintendent of police, said the suspect was arrested, tried in Police Orderly Room and dismissed in accordance with police regulations.

He said that while approving the dismissal, the state Commissioner of Police, Mr. Marvel Akpoyibo, also ordered the suspect's prosecution for murder in a competent court.

When arraigned on Tuesday, the magistrate, Mrs. K.O. Doja Ojo, remanded the suspect in prison.

Shortly after the court proceeding, Agbeyomi told journalists that he shot the bus twice when the driver refused to stop for routine check.

He said, "The bus was in a high speed. I stopped the driver and he refused to stop. When I discovered that there was a mild traffic gridlock shortly after the check point, I ran after the bus.

"I first shot at the tyre. When the bus stopped, I went to the front. I have forgotten that I have not uncorked the gun. That was how I shot the guy on the head."

"We tried to carry him and rush him to a hospital but eyewitnesses had started mobilising to attack us. So we ran away from the scene."

The police spokesman said that the command found it contradictory that those (policemen) paid to secure lives and property were the same people killing those they were paid to protect.

"I wish to re-assure Lagosians that the command will do everything within its powers to ensure that not only is justice done, but that justice is indeed seen to have been done," Mba added.


http://odili.net/news/source/2010/feb/17/800.html

O KA DI EGU O!!!

A self-styled preacher is on trial accused of beating two children and sexually abusing a young girl at a Bradford church.

William Dorgu, 45, denies three charges of indecent assault and seven of causing the youngsters actual bodily harm.

He is alleged to have committed the offences while he was pastor at the God Cares Ministry in Laisterdyke and Thornbury. Prosecutor Tony Kelbrick told Bradford Crown Court yesterday that Dorgu came to the UK from Nigeria in 1992. He was assistant to a pastor in Africa and set up his ministry in Bradford in 2000.

The court heard that Dorgu, who lived alone in Bradford, left West Yorkshire to move to the London area in 2007.

The Crown alleges that while he was preaching the gospel in Bradford, he kept an assortment of metal, wood and plastic implements to beat the children with.

Mr Kelbrick told the jury that Dorgu would make his young victims choose an instrument to assault them with.

It is alleged that Dorgu fondled the girl’s breasts in a room at the church one Sunday.

He is accused of sexually assaulting her on at least two further occasions.

Dorgu also faces four allegations of beating the girl and three of physically assaulting another child.

The girl said she was too ashamed to tell her mother when the pastor indecently assaulted her at the church.

She told the court she screamed at him to stop and began crying when he did it again.

She alleged Dorgu would use “anything he could find” to beat her with, including a belt and a stick.

The girl claimed she was struck all over her body and was afraid for her life.

The court heard that Dorgu “entirely and comprehensively” denied the allegations. He maintains they are entirely fabricated.

The trial continues.

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/5009205.Preacher_insists_sex_assault_claims_are__fabricated_/

NA WA O!!!

PRAIRIE DU CHIEN - The Rev. Robert Chukwu shook hands and mingled in the courtroom before his name was called to the defense table.

The Catholic priest stared forward and pressed his lips together for most of today's preliminary hearing in Crawford County Circuit Court as the district attorney began to lay out the felony theft case accusing him of stealing about $200,000 from two Crawford County parishes and the Diocese of La Crosse.

Chukwu, who wore his collar to court, stood mute to the charge after he was bound over for trial. The case is set for an April 7 status hearing.

Chukwu, who had been assigned to St. Mary's Catholic Church in Gays Mills and St. Phillip's Catholic Church in Soldiers Grove, sent money to priests, a nun, a school and family in Nigeria between Jan. 1, 2007, and Dec. 31, 2009, according to the complaint. He holds dual citizenship in the U.S. and Nigeria.

"I've never seen an oversees investment before," diocesan clergy liaison the Rev. Joseph Hirsch testified.

Chukwu, 59, spent $6,000 in 2008 to buy and mail a 40-foot container filled with $100,000 in artificial flowers, candlesticks, pedestal tables and other merchandise to Nigeria for profit, the complaint stated. Chukwu already spent $50,000 filling another shipment.

"The flood money was probably the primary source," Hirsch testified.

See Tuesday's Tribune or check back at www.lacrossetribune.com for more on this story.


http://www.lacrossetribune.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_24dc635c-1a8f-11df-8b7a-001cc4c002e0.html

Can this be true? Short of words, really!

Homosexuality in Nigeria
Go online if you're glad to be gay
One church’s answer to rampant homophobia

Feb 11th 2010 | LAGOS | From The Economist print edition

ONCE a fortnight, 50 or so Nigerians furtively log on for an online Bible study class. “This is the only way we can worship because of the stigma,” says one of them. The reason for the secrecy is that the participants, ranging from students to married men, are gay. To go to a mainstream church in Nigeria would risk beatings or even a forced exorcism. So hundreds are turning to House of Rainbow, Nigeria’s only gay-friendly church, which is flourishing online after almost meeting a violent end two years ago.

Many Nigerians strongly disapprove of homosexuality. The dominant role of religion is widely seen as the root of the country’s homophobic culture. Punishing gays is one of the few common themes that politicians can promote with equal zest in the mainly Christian south and the largely Muslim north. Under federal law sodomy is punishable by a 14-year jail sentence. An even more stringent bill to ban gay-rights groups and homosexual displays of affection is also under consideration.

It is a similar story in many other parts of Africa. Uganda, influenced by evangelical Christianity, has provoked an international outcry over a still harsher bill that advocates the death penalty in certain cases of gay sex, for instance when one partner is HIV-positive. Barack Obama recently called the bill “odious”. In Malawi two men have gone on trial for gross indecency after holding a “traditional engagement ceremony”. The judge refused bail on the grounds that their release might provoke mob violence.

The founder of House of Rainbow, Rowland Jide Macaulay, a gay Nigerian pastor, knows all about anti-gay intimidation. Two years after he set up his church in Lagos in 2006, the project was brought to a halt. Members of his congregation had been beaten and sometimes raped as they left Sunday services in order—said their assailants—to “correct their sexuality”. After receiving death threats Mr Macaulay fled to Britain, from where he now preaches via YouTube.

Undaunted, he is now seeking funds in the West. He wants to start hairdressing and fashion courses to complement Bible study. The exclusion of gays from Nigeria’s mainstream churches can limit their educational chances. Mosques and churches often perform the duties of a state that has all but collapsed in many parts of the country. Muslim movements such as Izala build schools in the north, while Pentecostal groups have set up universities in the south. As Anthony, a 27-year-old bisexual living in Lagos, says: “In Nigeria the church is not just about a spiritual lift, they run our [social] services. If they say ‘We don’t want you’, where do you go?”

http://www.economist.com/world/middleeast-africa/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15503420

Isn't this amazing?

Love for sale in Nigerian church on Valentine's Day

(AFP) – 4 days ago

LAGOS — A Nigerian pentecostal church on Saturday announced that it was charging a fee of 2,000 naira (13 dollars, eight euros) for connecting would-be lovers on Valentine's Day.

The House of God Fellowship Church, located near a Lagos prison, is charging the fee to defray the cost of a seminar, marriage counselling, music and entertainment during the love event, spokesman Michael Uchebuaku told AFP.

"The event is purely for singles. There was a large turnout of would-be lovers when the 'Love Connection Valentine's Singles' event was staged for the first time last year," he said.

"Start the new year by meeting your Mr or Miss Right," states the church in an advertisement in The Guardian newspaper on Saturday.

"Hurry up and register because this might be your last chance to find your husband or wife. To register, pay 2,000 naira to any branch of Union Bank," the advertisement said.

Uchebuaku, a public relations professional, said that under a deal with the church, profit from the event will be shared equally between the church and himself.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5g80VHtNCaXE9EwstbbUqEPacdMRA

Sagamite:
Misleading in what way?

All the Russell group are in the top 2 leagues tables I created, so what is your point?

Or are you saying the Russell Group itself are the top unis, and any uni not included is inferior to all unis included in the Russell Group?

My point is that the equivalent of American Ivy League universities in the UK is the Russell Group universities. These are “world class, research-led universities.”  Whilst I’m not saying that UK universities which are not part of the Russell Group aren’t good, Russell Group universities should, by all means, have been listed in the First Division. So, for example, Liverpool and Queen's, Belfast, should have appeared in the First Division (as opposed to appearing in the Second Division). Leaving out these two Russell Group universities from the First Division, you listed non- Russell Group universities namely Bath, Durham, Exeter, Lancaster, Loughborough, St Andrews, and York in the First Division. So, what I find misleading is the classification of Liverpool and Queen's, Belfast, as Second Division UK universities. They aren't. They're First Division universities and should rightly take their place before Bath, Durham, Exeter, Lancaster, Loughborough, St Andrews, and York, even if that implies pushing some of them into Second Division.

@ Sagamite: OP.

Whichever way you arrived at this list, it is both screwed and misleading. Irrespective of the source of your ratings, the reality is that the top notch, research-led universities in the Uk belong to what is known as and called the Russell Group Universities, the equivalent of the IVY LEAGUE UNIs in the USA. Check it out on http://www.russellgroup.ac.uk/our-universities/

@ ~Sauron~

I absolutely agree with Sauron. These were former Polytechnics. The better the ranking, the higher the fees, and the better the quality of education you receive from UK universities. Note, however, that top notch universities often offer partial or full scholarships to prospective students with a view to attracting the best students from around the world. You're still not aiming at top notch universities by looking at Plymouth and Birmingham City Universities. If I were you, I'll look at the Russell Group Universities (http://www.russellgroup.ac.uk/our-universities/), first. These are the top 20 research-led UK universities. See if you meet their entry requirements for your proposed course, and whether or not they offer some sorts of funding. [b]IF [/b]you're lucky to get part funding, you may [b]not [/b]spend more than you've budgeted for fees.

[/quote][quote author=Imeobong link=topic=398840.msg5520410#msg5520410 date=1266273290]hmmmmmm!!!! thank God (what a relief) , two gone, ojo maduekwe next

Michael Aondoakaa
Rilwan Lukman
Ojo Maduekwe
Sayyad Abba Rumma
Tanimu Yakubu Kurfi
Adamu Aliero
Major General Sarki Muktar
Hajia Aishatu Dukku
Ambassador A. Kazaure Oguche
Musa Yaradua (Danger list)
Alhaji Aliyu Ikra Bilbis

So there isn't any South Westerner on this list. It's high time Nigeria disintegrated.

On a daily basis, members of the Nigeria Police Force—who are paid to maintain law and order, as well as men and officers of the Nigerian Army—who are paid to protect the citizenry from external aggression, deploy the very weapons and ammunitions meant for accomplishing their tasks in prematurely terminating the lives of innocent Nigerians. The most frightening thing is that these beasts and monsters called police officers and soldiers are never brought to justice. In the case reported below, what stops the Lagos State Government from summoning the Lagos State Commissioner for Police? Upon summoning s/he should be given two options as follows. First, face prosecution and execution. Second, produce the monster that carried out this dastard act of extra judicial killing. Until this is done to ameliorate, if not eliminate, all these extra-judicial killings taking place up and down this country, Nigeria—the laughing stock of the rest of the world—is, in my humble opinion, irrevocably and irredeemably doomed. May the innocent blood of 27-year-old Temitope Olumona and all who had suffered the same fate continuously cry upon these perpetrators of evil, and upon Nigerian leaders who have failed in their leadership tasks of bringing these culprits to justice.
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Shot by Lagos policeman, placed on life support machine, power failure terminates his life

Comfort Oseghale

With only four months to go, 27-year-old Temitope Olumona anxiously awaited her wedding day. That, however, was not to be as her 31-year-old fiancé, Ayo Obeto, died at the Lagos State University Teaching Hospital, Ikeja, where he received treatment after he was brutalised by policemen attached to Owutu police station, Ikorodu, Lagos.


Ayo Obeto

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His younger brother, who was at his bedside at the time of his death, claimed that Obeto, who was on life support, gave up the ghost while the hospital was trying to change its source of power.

Recalling the events that culminated in Obeto's death, Olumona said, "In the morning of January 18, I got a call from Ayo's (Obeto's) family to come down to Lagos. I rushed down from Ibadan where I am undergoing the National Youth Service Programme. I met the family at the Ikorodu General Hospital. I was so shocked when I saw Ayo. We talked for the three days I spent with him in the hospital." Olumona said she was surprised to learn from the family that some policemen accused Obeto of robbery. "That cannot be true. He told me what happened. He said he was going back home with his friends when they ran into some policemen. They were asked to stop and they did. The next thing he knew, the policemen started shooting. Ayo ran and fell into the gutter. When the policemen got to him, he raised his hands and identified himself. He told me that was the last thing he could remember."

In spite of her fiance's condition, Olumona said she kept hoping that Obeto would overcome his travails and take her to the altar in June as planned. That, however, turned out a hope that never materialised.

She said, "I had left for Ibadan on Monday, to ask for permission to be away from my primary assignment for a while. I needed to stay by him till he recuperated. In the evening of the same day, I got a call that I should come back to Lagos. I never thought he was going to die."

Obeto, a graduate of Business Administration at the University of Ado-Ekiti, was until his untimely death on January 24, 2010, a financial consultant with Midas Gold Limited, a finance company based in Lagos. He was the second person to lose his life after some policemen attached to Owutu police station allegedly opened fire on three unarmed young men who were walking home after some time together at a bar in the neighbourhood in the night of January 17.

First to die was Abiodun Awe, a 34-year-old litigation officer at a Lagos-based law firm, Olumide Adejumo & Co. He was said to have bled to death after he was shot in the back, while his cousin, Babalola Awe, was lucky to escape the hail of bullets unhurt.

Babalola said, "We had all gone to a bar close to our house. We left around 11 pm. On our way home, Ayo (Obeto) remembered he had forgotten his keys at the bar. We all went back with him to get it."

During their second attempt at trekking home, they ran into a patrol team. "We saw a light moving towards us. Ayo was afraid and said we should run. When I asked why, he said we didn't know who it was. So we stopped. The next thing we heard were gunshots," Babalola said.

He said he only happened to survive the incident because he acted faster. "I pulled my shoes and ran for my life. I ran into an uncompleted building and hid there. I stayed there till morning before I went back home. Since Abiodun and I lived together, I was naturally apprehensive when I didn't find him at home. I called Ayo's family and asked after him and they confirmed he didn't come home that night."

Scared, the young man asked some friends to go with him to Orikuta junction where the shooting took place. "The people that went with me had no idea what I was looking for. I just said I wanted to check something."

When he got there, his worst fears were confirmed. "There was blood everywhere. That was when I realised that something terrible must have happened to my cousin and friend. I saw Ayo's hand towel in a gutter soaked with blood."

Babalola's wailing and grief drew everyone's attention. "I contacted their families and about 15 people drawn from both families went to complain about Abiodun's and Ayo's disappearance," he said.

It was at the station that they learnt that Abiodun was dead and Ayo was in the hospital. But rather than pacify the distraught families, Babalola was detained together with Olumide, the manager of the bar where he and his friends had been the night before.

"The bar manager's offence, we were told, was that he closed late," Babalola said.

Seyi, the elder brother to the late Abiodun, said his brother and Nelson could have survived the attack if not for the callousness demonstrated by the police. "We were told by those who witnessed the incident from their homes that the police paraded my brother and Ayo around the area as criminals for about 45 minutes before taking them to the station.

"Meanwhile, Abiodun was pleading with them to take him to the hospital. Ayo was not shot, but the police brutalised his head with the butt of their guns. A piece of metal was discovered in his skull."

Seyi said both victims were not taken to the hospital till the next morning. By then, Abiodun was already dead. Abiodun was received at the mortuary of Ikorodu General Hospital around 8.43 am. It was about the time that Ayo was also being received at the emergency unit of Ikorodu General Hospital.

According to Obeto's elder brother, Dennis, "Ayo was eventually transferred to Ikeja General Hospital after two days. That was where he died. His autopsy revealed that Ayo's head wounds were infected with tetanus. Instead of treating the wounds against infection at Ikorodu General Hospital, the wounds were simply stitched."

Dennis, who said that Ayo's death was avoidable, has threatened to sue the General Hospital in Ikorodu for negligence.

But what has become of the errant police officer? Seyi alleged a cover up by the police. He said that Paul Ogbe, the officer that killed his brother was initially stripped of his uniform and locked up in a cell at Owutu police station. "By the time the case was transferred to Area H, the story had changed. The area commander told us to give him time to investigate. He said he was told by the DPO Owutu that it was a case of armed robbery."

Seyi said the Area Commander told them that the case would be transferred to Panti the next day. "Surprisingly, an hour later, a patrol van came to take Babalola and Olumide (the bar manger) to Panti. It was at Panti that we discovered that Paul Ogbe's uniform had been restored to him and my brother and his friend were being framed for murder."

When the Police Public Relations Officer Frank Mba was contacted, he said, "The issue of connivance does not arise, because I am very much aware of this matter. Whenever the issue of shooting arises, there must be detailed and thorough investigation to establish if the officers involved have been consistent with the rules of engagement. That matter was transferred from Area H to the homicide department of Panti police station on the orders of the Commissioner of Police, Mr Akpoyibo.

"I want to assure the relatives of the dead men that the Lagos State Police Command does not cover up policemen found guilty of committing any crime. It is only natural we give them fair hearing. If their guilt is established, they will face the wrath of the law."

http://odili.net/news/source/2010/feb/13/829.html

i'm lost! what is roro?

Fhemmmy: You responded to my info request on shipping 4 x 4 from Canada. If you operate from Canada can you leave me your email, please.

@ Fhemmmy: Thanks for promptly responding to this information request. You seem to be in the auto industry. If you are and operate from Canada can you leave me your email, please.

As the above title suggests, does anyone know how much, aprroximately, would it cost me to ship a 4 x 4 from Ontario into Lagos? Please advise. And, if you can recommend any reliable shipping agents that would equally be great.

I watched this video on another posting and was sick for days. Whoever these guys are: soldiers or police, Christians, Muslims or Atheists, they're animals in human bodies. It shows that Nigeria is, by and large, still a barbaric country. The Police Commissioner and the Commanding Officer of the Nigerian Army under whose jurisdiction this took place should be made to either face death penalty or produce these murderers, who should be subjected to the same treatment they meted out to their fellow Nigerians. If this were to be pursued, this dastardly act of extra-judicial killings wouldn't happen again in Nigeria. Mind you, this is not happening only in relation to religious unrests in the North or in relation to the Niger Delta crisis, it’s happening across Nigeria. It brings to mind what happened in Ijebu Ife in Ogun State last December, when police officers—following the fatal shooting of another police officer by a mob of youths—went from house to house and shot dead anyone they found in those houses. It happens on road blocks as well. It's a shame, and nothing in this world can justify these extra-judicial killings.

Presumably, you'll need your clients' account details, vis-a-vis, their account numbers, names, branch names, home addresses, true signatures, etc. Who, in this day and age, would want to pass such on to a nastyboy whose official email contact is gmail.com

Besides, what you describe above is a global phenomenon. Until recently, UK banks do precisely the same. Some like Satander, formerly Abbey, still do. However, others like NatWest, Halifax, Barclays, etc, would pay the funds straightaway, but not if that's the first time you're moving money into the specific third party's account.

GUYS BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL OF SOMEONE WHO DESRCIBED HIMSELF AS A NASTYBOY WHO'S ONLY POSTED 4 PREVIOUS POOR QUALITY MESSAGES ON THIS SITE. WHY WOULD ANYONE HAND THEIR BANK DETAILS, AND BY EXTENSION, THEIR HARD EARN MONEY AND POSSIBLY LIFE SAVINGS TO A NASTYBOY? A WORD IS ENOUGH FOR THE WISE SO SAYS THE ELDERS!!!

Presumably, you'll need your clients' account details, vis-a-vis, their account numbers, names, branch names, home addresses, true signatures, etc. Who, in this day and age, would want to pass such on to a nastyboy whose official email contact is gmail.com

Besides, what you describe above is a global phenomenon. Until recently, UK banks do precisely the same. Some like Satander, formerly Abbey, still do. However, others like NatWest, Halifax, Barclays, etc, would pay the funds straightaway, but not if that's the first time you're moving money into the specific third party's account.

GUYS BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL OF SOMEONE WHO DESRCIBED HIMSELF AS A NASTYBOY WHO'S ONLY POSTED 4 PREVIOUS POOR QUALITY MESSAGES ON THIS SITE. WHY WOULD ANYONE HAND THEIR BANK DETAILS, AND BY EXTENSION, THEIR HARD EARN MONEY AND POSSIBLY LIFE SAVINGS TO A NASTYBOY? A WORD IS ENOUGH FOR THE WISE SO SAYS THE ELDERS!!!

Recently, the punch reported (http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201001284233884) that Akingbola‘s asset in the UK had been frozen. These assets, amongst others, include properties at: Milverton Road, Ikoyi, Lagos; Amazing Grace Plaza, Ligali Ayorinde Street, Victoria Island, Lagos; No. 2, Bedwell Road, Ikoyi; No. 26 Chester Terrace, London, England, NW1 4ND; No. 65 Gove-End Road, London NW8 9NH, England, No. 8 Connaught Street, London W2 2AH, England (You needed to have won lottery to have properties at these UK addresses: the wages of an astronaut, a neuro surgeon and other top notch professions won't secure one person simultaneous ownership of houses at these UK addresses)

What does this say about PASTOR ADEBOYE, considering the fact that Erastus Akingbola is ONE OF ADEBOYE'S PASTORS? How is THE REDEEM CHURCH, where Akingbola continues to serve as a PASTOR, portrayed through this? Given that Akingbola has not been defrocked, in spite of his multitude of financial misdemeanours, how does this depict the Redeem Church? Is the REDEEM CHURCH itself not in need of REDEMPTION? Apart from mental illness of blind followership, can you really trust anyone these days, including PASTOR ADEBOYE, the so called Servant of God? Given, Akingbola‘s connectedness with the AEROPLANE purchased by THE REDEEM CHURCH (http://allafrica.com/stories/200903100131.html), what does this say about other assets of this church, and how can one rationally adjudge other assets of the Redeem Church? What's the implication of this for other church ministers (http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/opinion/2009/mar/17/opinion-17-03-2009-001.htm) flying around in jets?

Which professions and professionals can youngsters look up to as role models, these days? Growing up, one looked up to lawyers (these days many, though not all, are charge and bail experts: period); one looked up to bankers (today, they’re, in the main, no different from armed robbers); youngsters looked up to Politicians—the likes of Bisi Onabanjo, Adekunle Ajasin, et al who selflessly served this country—(today, they’re all looters who deserved to be eliminated: the Jerry Rawlings style). This connection raises a million questions which sociologists of religion ought to be concerned with.

Let these gworo eating beasts, monsters, and barbarian, brake away completely, not just as a branch of the NBA, but as a region within the federation, and let the rest of us move forward. From the pre-indedepence era, they told the British they weren't ready for independence. It's as good as we're not part of them. They belong more the Republic of Niger, than the Fedreal Republi of Nigeria. If Awolowo and Azikwe had known they should have just left them alone. Nigeria would have been a blissful place it was prior to the civil war--which resulted from the way these monsters treated non Hausa, mainly the Igbos, residing in the North. These beasts and monsters are responsible for Nigeria's woes. The earlier they leave, the better for us all. To say the least, Nigeria would be taken off the terrorist list compiled by the USA, resulting from the evil machination of Umar Farouk Abdulmuttalib: the useless, heartless, dangerous, and savage boy from the North.

What kind of quack journalism is this? Do Nigerian newspapers' editors still do their jobs properly? In reporting this news, this journalist has grossly failed to identified the heatlhy and unhealthy banks. If these were not declared by the source(s), the journalist is duty bound to aptly let his/her audience know that this crucial infomation had been witheld by his/her source(s). Given that I've read similar reports on several occasions, it's high time Nigerian journalists who report in this manner woke up to, and faced, the reality of excellent journalism. Otherwise, they should quit and find something else to do.

I've just realised that my share certificate is missing. What should I do in this instance? Please advise! Thanks. And, Apologies for cross-posting.

I've just realised that my share certificate is missing. What should I do in this instance? Please advise! Thanks.

@ cap28:
I came on here to let Pafun know that his over-generalisation is both twisted and superfluous. I don’t bluff, but strikes the nail right on its head. If you have problem with the way I framed my response that ostensibly displays your lack of detailed comprehension. To synthesize the main points again: (1) PAFUN was, in my opinion, wrong to deploy two gentlemen’s joblessness in inferring that hundreds of Nigerian men are in the same situation. So, I countered his assumption citing a few examples of human endeavours in which you’ll find hard working Nigerians; (2) returning to Naija isn’t the only solution as he was inclined to want to make us believe. Why not? Nigeria is grossly unsafe: armed robberies and extra-judicial killings, to mention just two examples, abound. Besides, the wages in a number of sectors isn’t what it should be. So, I cited my own example of unwillingness to relocate assuming I lost my job. And, I need not resort to “bowing and scraping to [my] white employers so that [am] not singled out for redundancy” as I had no reason to do so in the last 10 years.

On racism, discrimination and pupils’ disrespectfulness: Yes, I know there are guys who experience these irrespective of how good they may be. But, is there no tribalism, discrimination, prejudice and in fact, in schools and campuses infested with cultism, do teachers and lecturers still have the respect they used to have years ago? Still on disrespectfulness in the UK contexts, you don’t need to be a social researcher to know that what children do in this society is an antithesis of what their counterparts do in Nigeria. Years ago I called my professors John, Mark, Bob. In Nigeria, even the guy who in my first year in the university was in his final year, but came back after his NYSC to take up Assistant Lecturer job insisted we stopped calling him by his first name, which we were calling him only some 12-15 months earlier. The point ‘am making is this: what school kids do to their teachers (which some African teachers frown at) is no worse than what they do to their parents/guardians. Saying these, I know my onions, excellent at what I do, have a track record in my field, and as a sequel to these, I haven’t, in the last 10 years, witnessed discrimination and prejudice. Again, you’re threading the same footpath as Pafun by claiming, ‘I can guarantee you that that unilag lecturer is treated with more respect by his pupils and colleagues than you could ever dream of being treated.’ What a statement utterly borne out of ignorance and unempirical generalisation.

On unemployment rate: Thanks goodness you know the unemployment rate in the UK. For me, dealing with the known is far better than dealing with the unknown. Given that Pafun advocates that jobless Nigerian men should return home (not considering family ties in the UK, e.g. children in schools, colleges and universities, etc, etc) can you tell us what the statistics is for unemployment in Nigeria. This enables any would be returnee to know what to face up to when they arrived the shores of Nigeria. Since you linked unemployment rate amongst black people with discrimination (which I’ll not dispute), it seem plausible to ask whether or not Nigerians, irrespective of their qualifications don’t face and daily live with discrimination, even in their fatherland.

On property market: I said, “A friend of my living in Manchester lost his job in the banking industry at the peak of the financial meltdown, and hasn’t been “working” in the last 14 months. Of course, he had put to excellent use, his years of service with the bank by building a portfolio of buy-to-let properties.” Did you read or just gloss over my response. “He had put to excellent use, his years of service with the bank by building a portfolio of buy-to-let properties” meant that he bought these houses long before the crash. Investigate the national average for UK home between 2003 and 2006 and verify whether or not anyone who bought buy-to-let property during this period is likely to be running at a loss as I write. Even if you sensibly buy a property in 2007, you should be fine.

On the rationale for teaching being helping young people acheive (sic) their potential. Yes, that’s the rhetoric used in Nigeria for decades and decades until the publicly funded educational system collapsed. Helping young people achieve their (let me add, FULL) potentials. Yes! That’s precisely what I do. But my reward is not in heaven, just before you say that. And, on being a teacher and not a neurosurgeon. Yes, we teachers ostentatiously “make” not only the neurosurgeons, but also the astronauts, engineers, and other professionals, and they’re always, more than grateful to us for making them what and who they’re.

On pontificating from ivory tower: I wasn’t and wouldn’t, really. Albeit, whilst I didn’t, in my response, claim any “extraordinary genius and talent”, except you’re attributing that to me, which I very much welcome (that’s precisely how my students, colleagues and headmaster describes me), the idea of coming “up with ways as to how we can save our country” isn’t the matter at the heart of this particular thread. Millions of Nigerians hold divergent opinions on the subject. Many have expressed their opinions on other threads on this website, and so have I. However, this takes me to my final comment. The issues and questions you raised derail this discourse. How does where I specifically teach (which is none of your business, because if you were so keen on its verification, you should have implicitly declared yours, if you like stating the address, phone and fax numbers) detract from the fact that the vast majority of Nigerians are gainfully employed in professions ranging from teaching to Neurosurgeons?

And, by the way, why won’t you heed Pafun’s clarion call by resigning your job so you don’t have to be “bowing and scraping  to your white employers so that you are not singled out for redundancy (as black staff are usually the last in and first out) as the cleaning jobs are now being snapped up by young white graduates who can’t find work,” get a ticket, and return to Naija where you can “you use your extraordinary genius and talent to come up with ways as to how we can save our country.” May be when you have saved Nigeria, the rest of us can return to Nigeria.

@ PAFUN:

I am a school teacher and head of my department in a top notch UK College. I know loads of Nigerians who are professionals: academics, lawyers, medical doctors, pharmacists, banking and finance experts, architects—you name it. I’ve met priests/vicars/pastors contributing meaningfully to their communities as well. Besides, there are Nigerians—men and women—running legitimate, successful businesses: shipping, high street (African) stores, top of the range boutique shops, etc. Let’s be realistic—in comparison with guys doing credit card and allied fraudulent activities, bringing us shame—our Nigerian guys are also into low paid, odd jobs, which belittle the academic degrees they earned from UI, OAU, UNN, UNILAG, which, nonetheless considerably outweighs some lecturers' wages in Nigerian universities.

This said, for the OP (Pafun), to come on this site to claim that because “two friends - grown up men in their 40s, have not had a job for almost two years and just living on their wives who are nurses. I am sure there are hundreds of similar instances like that all over” is, to say the least: daft, stupid, senseless and logically incoherent. You simply shouldn’t use the example of 2 guys to generalise that there are hundreds of similar Nigerian men across the UK. Even my Year 10 students wouldn’t draw such a silly, unempirical conclusion.

As per “Naija churches in London are filled with peeps wearing mournful looks and you can see that their lives are going nowhere.” Where did you get this from? Which Church is that? Where is it located? I’m appalled. Having lived in the UK for over ten years, I’ve not come across a dull Nigerian congregation. Not even catholic or Anglican congregations (with majority Nigerian population) where the rubrics drive the liturgy.

Pafun goes on to say, these Nigerian men “are too proud to let anybody know that” they’re jobless. Are you a job centre agent or an employment agency staff that they’ll tell you they have no jobs? Have you jobs to offer them in your fishery? Pafun further wonders, “Why can't people just get wise that they are living in fool's paradise.” This is again a bogus claim. Wise up? Who says they’re stupid? A friend of my living in Manchester lost his job in the banking industry at the peak of the financial meltdown, and hasn’t been “working” in the last 14 months. Of course, he had put to excellent use, his years of service with the bank by building a portfolio of buy-to-let properties. Yes, he has no "job," today, but earning enough from his properties. Mr Pafun, you really think those your jobless friends would tell you of their other legitimate sources of income, e.g. if they have properties they’re renting out and making some cool money? YOU and YOU ALONE MUST BE LIVING IN YOUT FISHERY’S FOOL PARADISE. Yes, “at home you get sympathy” from who? ARMED ROBBERS? KIDNAPPERS? Et al. I was in Nigeria last summer. That country is, palpably, degenerating by the minute. if I loose my job today (God forbid), I'll rather take up a call center job or cleaning job, than return to Nigeria and teach in a university. When a friend lecturing in UNILAG (position = Lecturer 1) visited the UK for a conference, he told me what he earns, it equates with what a school caretaker (with no academic qualifications) gets. Quality of life? the caretaker rides 54 Reg Avensis, has his own (mortgaged) house, regularly goes on holidays, and apparently has PEACE OF MIND.

Mr PAFUN -- Go and wise up. Thank you.

Those church schools you referred to were established, owned and run by mainline churches: Anglican, Roman Catholic, Methodist, and Baptist, to mention a few. The rationale for the education enterprise you described was Mission and Evangelism. These new generations with their General Overseers (GO's) quintessentially differs. Their focus is to make money and prosperity in abundance.

Really, what's the difference between the figures on his balance sheet just before assuming office, and at the time of awarding him Nigeria’s Most Trustworthy Governor? In other words, how much has this man's assets changed between then time he assumed office and now. This should help all and sundry evaluate the level of this 'so-called' trustworthiness.
Cheers mate!!!

Something crucially important is missing in the Prayer Points For RCCG February 2010 Fasting And Prayer. You guys should be praying for the likes of Erastus Akingbola, Cecilia Ibru, Olusegun Obasanjo, and Gbenga Daniel who identify with you, yet have grossly embezzled public funds, so much so that the wealth which should have been used in strengthening and solidifying the financial, health, education, and other public sectors, had been diverted into their respective purses. You should therefore be praying that these ones and others in their shoes KNOW NO PEACE until they've repented and make retributions. May I therefore ask that you redirect your energies and priorities, please: FOR GOD'S SAKE! PRAY THAT THEY REPENT OR PERISH!!!