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Have you heard how Bint Marwan was murdered when he did a poem against the prophet? The prophet simply asked " who will rid me off Bint Marwan?". And guess what, she was killed. Please, read your hadiths, dont just concentrate on the quran. Peace?

Policemen kill because they know they will always get away with it. Pathetic. IG is busy defending them, no investigation by independent security agency, will the SSS implicate the police when they are birds of the same colour.

[size=16pt]That Minister is the real Muslim. In fact he is the one following the prophet's sunnah. Muslims on Nairaland should not be offended. Consider a similar situation in Yathrib, when Bint Marwan made a satirical poetry about the prophet. We know how the Mother of five was assassinated in cold blood. Also, the case of Abu Afak, a man of great age according to the Islamic author Ali Dashti, was killed because he “lampooned’ the prophet.

References: Sirat Rasul Allah:A. Guilaume's translation "The Life of Muhammad"pages 675, 676.
Ali Dashti. “ I23 Years; A Study of the Prophetic Career of Mohammad” (Mazda Press, 1994) page 100[/size]

Tiarabubu, well done, I am preparing for exam, when I finish I will resume, hope they dont ban me.

It is possible for one to post from a bed in the hospital. If she is not feeling well, I wish her speedy recovery. However, I will not forget in a hurry, the crime she and the President committed in sinking more people into poverty by the increase in petrol price,and now, the move to make N5, N10, and N20 coins. God will judge them with a strong hand.

adaybayor: And how many people have seen killed cos they change there religion, I want facts.

I have not seen one in my location, however, in the middle east, it is a daily occurrence. And you know those are the ones following the Sunnah of the prophet.

@drzed

The context of Matthew 10:34

Matthew 10:32-38
32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.

34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn

“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law —
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’[b]

37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me.

Explanation:

After saying he came to bring sword, he went further to show instances of the how the sword will operate.

"a man against his father,a daughter against her mother,a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household."

A father will be against his children for following Christ. Read about Christian persecution and see this sword in action.

If you have more questions, please feel free.

Is the Sheik aware of these Hadiths?



An example of how this rule was carried out.

Circumstance under which a Muslim life could be taken, notice the bolded. It appears there is compulsion here.

Sahih Muslim 16:4152
'Abdullah (b. Mas'ud) reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: It is not permissible to take the life of a Muslim who bears testimony (to the fact that there is no god but Allah, and I am the Messenger of Allah), but in one of the three cases:the married adulterer, a life for life, and the deserter of his Din (Islam), abandoning the community


Notice the statement of allah's Apostle in the bolded.

Sahih Bukhari 9:84:57
Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him

Is the Hadith contradicting the Quran?

binger: Can someone pls define boko haram,their agenda and motive

Boko haram and all radical Islamic organisation want to recreate the Caliphate once again. Unfortunately, it wont be possible because this is the 21st century not 7th century when Islam through wars dominated the worid.

Jihad has not and “is still not a war of hate, destruction, indiscriminate, a random war of a mandate that can be appropriated by just about anyone”.

What kind of war is Jihad then? Is it defensive? Or struggle against SIN? How did the early Muslims carry out Jihad? Was it offensive or Defensive?

I want to do a little research to get answers to these questions. But if anyone has the answers with references and proofs, I will be most glad to see them.

Abati is not saying the truth.

Attempts to seek explanation from the office were not successful as a spokesman declined comment while the minister of state, Dr. Yerima Ngama, did not answer calls to his phone on Monday.

Also, attempts to get reaction from the office of the First Lady were not successful. Her spokesman Ayo Adewuyi could not be reached by telephone on Monday and yesterday.

Why did they not respond to the Daily Trust Journalist who reported the transactions. Jonathan's government will lead Nigeria into bankruptcy.

BABYOSISI IS BACK ON NAIRALAND. MISSED THOSE INTELLIGENT POSTS. WE LOVE YOU Davidddylan, Babyosisi and other great minds who have continued to open our eyes on real Islam with strong evidence that can not be disputed.

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LagosShia

You did not address the bolded part of my text. Kindly address it. Thank you

@LagosShia

Why the "paraclete,comforter,advocate,spirit of truth" to come after Jesus cannot be the christian "holy spirit"?

1.) John 14:16
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;"

"another" means "one like the other".which is the former? Jesus! so the next to come would be like Jesus,a prophet sent by God.

Matthew 21:11
And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.

2.) John 16:7
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".

going through the bible,we see the presence of the "holy spirit" on earth and experienced in the lives of people before the coming of Jesus (as),during his stay on earth and also after Jesus (as) left.

let us say you and your brother are in the same room with visitors.your brother's name is "Y".if "Y" was with you in the same room,can you tell people that you must leave the room so that "Y" can come in and if you dont leave he would not come in (for whatever reason)?

so how can Jesus (as) say if he does not go the "comforter" will not come if that comforter is already there?the "holy spirit" was already there regardless if Jesus (as) stays or leave.this means we cannot say the "comforter" is the "holy spirit".so we clear see that this person that will lead people into "all truth" is someone like Jesus (as)-a prophet- who will come newly to earth.

please compare the below two verses:

1 John 2:1:
"My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"

John 14:16:
New Living Translation (©2007)
"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate, who will never leave you".

Since you are using the Christian scripture to justify your position that Mohammed is that Comforter, I will like you to look at this other scripture from the bible which shows that the Comforter is not a human but a spirit entity.
John 14:16-20
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.


From the bolded, the comforter is going to be in the Christians, from the second bolded, Jesus said he would not leave them comfortless, and that he will come to them. It is from this logic, that the Christians believe that God exists in the form of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Take a look at verse 20.

One of the profs killed is Yoruba and this one who managed to escape is also Yoruba. And here was I thinking only Igbos are in danger in the North.

They are not attacking tribes but CHRISTIANS, Islam hates Christians and Jews.

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."



Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

@ Logic mind
Like Out-of-body experiences, Automatic Writing, Telepathy, Trance etc. The fact that you have never experienced them does necessary mean that they dont exist.

@OP

I did a research about her on the net, the evidence pointed to negative, except the submission of those who criticized her were false, then am afraid everything about her was a media hype.

Hello OP

I am sorry about all your trouble. Now, as Christians, we believe that after surrendering ones life to Christ, HE takes over and the HolyGhost begins to live in you. It beats my Imagination to hear that a Born-again Christian having the Spirit of God in him/her would be possessed by Demonic spirits. It is possible for someone to backslide which will make the Spirit of God to leave that Christian exposing him/her to possession by unclean spirits. Getting to the root of the matter is the most important step to getting deliverance.

If you have the testimony of salvation then, what is happening is a clear case of spiritual oppression, and the set of Christians who suffer that most are baby Christians and those living in SIN. What is the solution? Simple, you have to check your life for SIN, once discovered, you must weep before God for mercy and resolve not to Sin any more. May God hear your prayers(Amen)

@OP

It is no that atheist are winning. Logic and Science which Atheists use to support their argument, does not explain things outside Matter. Therefore, the argument goes on and on.

@Avicenna

You came to NairaLand full of the Islamic faith, you read some stuff about your religion , you saw reason and abandoned it, now, you declare that you are an Atheist and that you are free. You will only experience True freedom when you have a witness within yourself that Atheism is the answer to all your questions. I am certain that a lot of questions will arise along the way which no man can answer but Jesus. I shall post those questions when next I log on, for now, Good Luck to you.


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Yes, he is God.

@Tbaba1234

On point 1
You are correct, according to earlier verses, if the Pagans turn to dishonor the treaty, Muslims were commanded to kill them as reported in Surah 9:4 “Then when the Sacred Months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islâmic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikûn (see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât), and give Zakât, then leave their way free. Verily, Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”

On point 2
You have not shown that the wars of Islam was/is defensive. Consider this hadith:
"I have been ordered by God to fight with people till they bear testimony to the fact that there is no God but Allah and that Mohammed is his messenger, and that they establish prayer and pay Zakat (money). If they do it, their blood and their property are safe from me" ( Bukhari Vol. I, p. 13).

Here it is very clear that the nature of the war is offensive. The way most people came into Islam in it early years was mostly through force, threat, and pain of death. Consider how Abu Sufyan was converted as contained in the biography of Mohammed by Ibn Kathir: “When Muhammad and his followers were about to attack Mecca to subjugate it to Islam, his adherents arrested Abu Sufyan, one of Mecca’s inhabitants. They brought him to Muhammad. Muhammad told him: "Woe to you, O Abu Sufyan. Is it not time for you to realize that there is no God but the only God?" Abu Sufyan answered: "I do believe that." Muhammad then said to him: "Woe to you, O Abu Sufyan. Is it not time for you to know that I am the apostle of God?" Abu Sufyan answered: "By God, O Muhammad, of this there is doubt in my soul." The ’Abbas who was present with Muhammad told Abu Sufyan: "Woe to you! Accept Islam and testify that Muhammad is the apostle of God before your neck is cut off by the sword." Thus he professed the faith of Islam and became a Muslim.” Ibn Kathir, "The Prophetic Biography", part 3, p. 549, and "The Beginning and the End"

On point 3
“this does not require explanation”
It requires explanation; what does stern, hard etc mean? Does it also mean ruthless or what?pls more explanation.


On point 4
No comment

On point 4

So in islam, there is no compulsion in religion. If he wants to convert, he is free.

Consider this hadith

Bukhari, volume 9, #17

"Narrated Abdullah: Allah's Messenger said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Messenger, cannot be shed except in three cases: in Qisas (equality in punishment) for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (Apostate) and leaves the Muslims."
Is Islam really from God?

Pls, note "and the one who reverts from Islam(Apostate)"

@bntY

Its unfortunate you had to accuse me of been on the forum "to stir trouble". I am not sure I have done any wrong by airing my views and opinion on any subject matter so long I did not abuse anybody.

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FYA

@ OP

Your post is an eye opener. Thanks.

@ OP

I advise you to do a research on the history of the founder of the religion before you finally decide.

Good luck.

If what they are doing is in line with the Quran teachings and the Hadiths, then they are the best of Muslims otherwise they are not.

Question: What they are doing is it in the Quran and the Hadiths?
Ans: Yes

There are other verses apart from this one that show that dexmond is lying by implication.

Please, show us the other verses. Until then, that verse explains Muslims hostilities toward Christians. Compare it that verse to this.

Mark 12:28-34

28One of the teachers of the Law of Moses came up while Jesus and the Sadducees were arguing. When he heard Jesus give a good answer, he asked him, "What is the most important commandment?"

29Jesus answered, "The most important one says: `People of Israel, you have only one Lord and God. 30You must love him with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength.' 31The second most important commandment says: `Love others as much as you love yourself.' No other commandment is more important than these."

32The man replied, "Teacher, you are certainly right to say there is only one God. 33It is also true that we must love God with all our heart, mind, and strength, and that we must love others as much as we love ourselves. These commandments are more important than all the sacrifices and offerings that we could possibly make."

34When Jesus saw that the man had given a sensible answer, he told him, "You are not far from God's kingdom." After this, no one dared ask Jesus any more questions.

Is discriminating against christians honestly quranic? Why/why not?
Quranic references will avail much here.

Here is answer to your question.

Surah 5:51
"Muslims do not make friends with Christians and Jews".

I am not afraid of change, but the change must be better than what was on ground. The new Nairaland has too many tables.