lazygal:



The afonjas are known for this be it Christian or muslin they mix it with traditional stuffs .
This is one of the reasons the north does not accept their ways or wish to be led by them in islam

Abegi, forget that! Clifford Orji, a christian was one of the pioneers of ritualism. Same as reverend King. We've also heard of the pastor casted out of Anambra for practising fetish things!

Same ritual killing are being practised in the North, where we've heard of several ritual killings.

However, one fact I'm just trying to sound is the fact that why some christian leaders/elders who choose to practise fetish things with their religion do it codedly, we see muslim brand these fetish acts before our very eyes and claims they are traditional healers as well.

HolyMalaam:
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I pray they are found. You and your folks were so careless. Such a pretty kids. I really hate hearing about kidnapping.

lazygal:




Ritual killing is not tied to any religion please .thankGid for your brother 'd life

Of course yes, I know this. There are pastors who use human heads as the foundation of their churches and all sort of things.

But what I want to point out is the fact that pastors who does these traditional fetish things tends to hide it in order not to make people suspicious of their acts but on the other hands, the Alhajis boast of these fetish acts and you would even see some muslims, such as sterope supports them saying "Esin ko ko aajo" that is, religion doesn't stop you from seeking help from fetish places if it will help you.

In fact, we have many herbalists in the SW who are actually alfas, alhaji or imams and they advertise themselves boldly of practising fetish. Did you think a pastor who does the same would be bold to advertise himself to people?

I pray they are found.

But I wonder why the guardian would allow kids to roam in the mosque because most of these Imams, alfas, alhaji are not different from evil traditionists/ritualists, even as Sterope continue to champion them like she did with alhaji Alaka Abayomi who claimed to be alhaji as well as a traditional worshipper when he was arrested for alleged murders. My bro almost fell a victim at their hands but God saved him.

Tozara:
Now, imagine the Deeper Life lady coming out to claim she was singled out to be victimized because she was a Christian---that reprimanding her for violating the laid-down rules is an attack on her religion, and other Christians supporting her because it's "her right".

That's the exact scenario that is playing out in Firdaus' case.

You can come out and say that the rule doesn't make sense FOR EVERYONE---that you want the institution to be more flexible with her rules, and not too rigid. That you want them to respect religious and cultural diversity. Okay---that point of view might be considered, and the whole body can arrive at a decision, after the terms of UNIFORMITY and BASIS FOR THE IDENTITY OF MEMBERS within the organization have been redefined.

But to come out and scream oppression and victimization---to claim that you were penalized not because you chose to defy A RULE THAT HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED, which you have been AWARE OF ALL THESE YEARS, but because they hate you and your religion, and want to discriminate against you because of that, is so annoying and irritating.

Exactly!

Funny how educated folks are being reduced to illiterates because of a religion!

drshamo:



This is nt a matter of sentiment and don't assume what u don't know... She graduated form unilorin and she can easily do her law school in Lagos which is close to her home town bt she knew that Lagos and d likes don't accept hijab or scarf at all and choose abuja knowing Abuja permit mini hijab for their call to bar... pls don't assume, confirm this from the right source and they will tell u d truth abt dis...

They don't permit mini hijab but scarfs!

Read well, everything isn't about being chaos like you're known for.

Habyz:

The hijab wasn't enforced as you said. And I agree that covering your body doesn't make you holier that does who don't but the ones who don't have other reasons for not and I can say that they are not all pure reasons also the hijab is not a blanket of any sort it is simply to cover the head it isn't going to stop her from wearing the uniform how is that a problem to the law school?

No arabian culture will be enforced into our institution! You hooligans had better get that or get the fvck out of the institution!

seguntijan:
When the issue of protecting the rights of women in hijab is raised, some people will come up with unrelated ideas. You will hear, "Let's have Cele people too wear their sutana and keep bare foot everywhere. Let the Egungun dress in their regalia. Those of the Ezemo ilk should adorn their costume..."
No one is holding them now. It's a free world.
We are all living witnesses to an attempt to play that out in Osun State the other day. Those of other religions went on to instruct their wards to dress in chorister's uniform, sango wears, among other ceremonial wears in protest to the hijab uniform to Muslim school girls. We could all see how theirs wasn't sustainable. Their dressing styles are purely ceremonial.
Unlike the hijab, these dressings cited are only ceremonial wears. The hijab isn't a ceremonial wear. It's every time you see that woman in hijab but you want her to remove it to disregard God's commandments. She doesn't wear it occasionally. She believes it's part of her religion. The Nigerian law respects her right to practice her religion. Her right to wear the hijab does, in no way, harm the rights of non-hijab wearers. So, what's your problem?

Which of which is god's commandment?

How did an Arabian god become our god? Abi this one dey craze?

If she loves arabian god so much, why did she venture into an institution whose set of rules are divergent away from arabian god's rules? Was there no sharia law for her to study? How about islamic studies?

Yeye.

Tozara:
And, as expected, they've finally made it into a religious battle---they've made it into Islamophobia and the oppression, humiliation and victimization of Muslims.

This is about the rules, not your religion. A Christian who violates them would have been treated the same way. They make it look like the rule SPECIFICALLY TARGETS THE HIJAB.

"Lawless", "immoral", and "infidel" nations like America and Britain are now examples to follow. I hope you know that HOMOSEXUALITY is also legalized in those countries---so make sure you don't oppose it when Nigeria makes the move to legalize it too.

Worthless hypocrites.

Thank you!

A depeerlife member once had issue with Nysc uniform and was reprimanded for turning her Nysc trouser into a skirt, she eventually left the service when no one batted an eye at her, even the CAN batted no eye at her! She was forced to leave at the end!

But here we have some hooligans fighting over arabian cultures! Yeye.

Habyz:

You want them to protest against something in another country! Oya judge yourself.
The law school teaches the law and it isn't following it does that make sense even to you?
The "Arabian God " as you so senselessly put it can communicate in any language.

Can communicate in any language yet you speak arabs to him? Yet you dress like arab man/woman for him?

We aint arabs! If arabian god can't see that we're Africans, he should fvck out!

maasoap:

Hijabs don't trample on your rights. Stop persecuting Muslim girls!

Tell your muslim girls to stop sowing the seed of anarchy in our western institution. They shouldn't even attend in the first place, sharia law is enough for them.

After all, Chaotic na what you sabi.

flyca:

Did you say this same thing when that LawSchool lady rebel was making noise earlier this week?

Of course! If Fidaus didn't have a stinking unwashed hair to begin with, she would have removed the hijab when the benchers, including a respected muslim, alfa beglore asked her to remove it but I guessed she was ashamed of her stinking unwashed hair!

I repeat, only the wretched wear Hijabs! Zahra Buhari never does!

drshamo:


Other Muslim ladies are nt d standard definition of Islam... for the fact that they did nt put on hijab which was wrong doesn't mean she should follow them do d same because everyone will surely account for his/her action on d judgement day... And again, U ppl should remove the mindset that if one or more Muslim do wrong thing that does nt mean Islam permit that wrong doing... All those that refuse to cover their head for the occasion we're all wrong according to Islam including Bubari's daughter

Law schools is an independent body with own set of rules! If she can't abide by it, she should get the fuvck out of it!

Funny how some set of africans are fighting over arabian culture. If arabian god, allah can't communicate with africans like they were created and with their unique language, then such allah god isn't worthy of Africa folks!

flyca:


First of all, See your life? So what's the noise about the lady who was not called to bar recently? Didn't they wear the lawyer's wig?
Mcheeeeeeew. Shift!

Secondly, See your life again?
Oh so it's ok for a rich Muslim kid to marry "an infidel"?

Only the wretched wears hijabs!

flyca:
No hijab

She her bridal train sef. What then is the difference between this wedding and the Church wedding they condemn?

Very hypocritical beings

First, she's no arab, hence she's no hijab wearer. If allah can't see her as an africa woman like the way she was created as an africa lady, then allah is not worthy of africa folks!

Secondly, she's marrying a christian brother!

Empiree:
for the fact that you admitted Paul's words are in the Bible, then, Bible is not word of God.



unless you can prove this from islamic sources, i won't take you serious. The first chapter revealed in the Quran "read". which means to seek knowledge is fundamental right of every muslim (Surah Al-'Alaq [96]).


Whatever Alfa means to you?. Generally speaking Alfa is Yoruba word for Islamic scholar. In that case, there are many muslim scholars who are women. Google is your friend. Imam on the other hand, is the one who leads muslims in pray, also lead muslim community for social affairs. There are muslim women who do counseling in muslim communities. As for leading prayer, women are not allowed to lead muslim men and women in salat. However, she may lead her fellow women in salat. She may also deliver lectures to both men and women. Restriction is only leading men and women in salat according to islamic law. Educate yourself buddy.



Good. That means Mary mother Jesus, according to picture of 'Mary', she wears Hijab. So Mary, mother of your God is wretched

Lmao. When you've got nothing to say.

That your quran don't have the words of God nor have admonition from men of God makes it redundant! No wonder quran plagiarise jewish men (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon) from the bible as their Islam prophets, even when the only prophet you have is your sex paedophile.

Who even takes admonition from a known sex paedophile unless the senile?


Well, while our women can teach both men and women like Priscilla did to Paul, like Mary did to the other disciples, and many today, your women on the other hand are only relegated to second class in your mosque and homes. No wonder Buhari said his wife belongs to the other room. What a chaotic religion!

That said, that's no hijab on Mary's head as her beautiful hairs could be seen. It's a scarf unlike the dirty hijab used to cover unwashed dirty hairs on the head. Funny enough, the desert Arabian made it their culture to cushion against the effect of the strong desert wind whereas africa men carry another person's culture untop head like gele or probably the arabic god, allah is just so partial that you can only come to him with arabic wear and speak in arabian language before he can understand what you're saying!

Lol. Chaotic religion!

Dante2008:
This tells us how good you are with the Islamic injunction on hijab. Please for the fact that some people choose to drop their religious obligation does not make what they do right, there is nothing on the surface of this earth that will make u obey the creature over the creator, is an injunction in the Quran, Allah gave an order for woman to cover themselves and it was explained in the Hadith of the prophet that on no normal circumstances should a Muslim woman expose her body in the public including her hair, so therefore don't come and quote the Quran ignorantly I mislead people on this matter. The Quran is clear on this matter, obey Allah, his prophet and those place in authority over you, this is how the obedience follows in ranking.

Is the law school your mosque? Who's to follow allah here or what?

How is the school in collaboration with any ugly things Allah says?

Abegi, carry your religion go mosque.

solasoulmusic:
I don’t see how her wearing the birqa will affect her ability to practice the law she went to school for

Likewise, I don't see her not wearing birqa will stop her brain from functioning.

We've confirmed that the Hijab on her is definitely affecting her brain after seeing that she couldn't even respect the benchers and pull it off when she was asked. She was probably spotting an unwashed dirty hair like most Hijab wearing ladies!

oyb:
as lawyers often do, this fellow has said a lot without saying anything.

he can also be said to be guilty of the same attention seeking he has been accusing Ms Firdaus as, with all his long references to his position as 'head of bar'


http://www.lawschoollagos.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/code-of-conduct-for-law-students-lagos-campus.pdf

i have searched, and i found only the lagos state law school regulations. these regulations say nothing whatsoever on hijab being forbidden.
this is the relevant excerpt below:

2.0 DRESSING:
All students must be well dressed at all times in Regulation Wear.
2.1 MALE: Dark suit, white shirt, black tie (not bow tie), white breast pocket handkerchief (optional), black socks and black shoes (Sandals are not allowed).
During hot weather, male students may be permitted to wear white long sleeve shirts with black tie, black trousers (charcoal grey or dark blue may be allowed) and black shoes to class.
2.2 FEMALE: Dark gown or dark suit, (Black, dark blue or charcoal grey), white blouse, (not translucent or Tee- shirts), black skirt covering the knees and black covered shoes (Sandals, lace ups or peep toes are not allowed). There should be no embroidery and or trimmings of any type on the gown, suit or blouse; and only moderate jewelry should be worn- (No large dangling or coloured earrings, or bracelets are allowed). Also, coloured hair attachment, coloured braids, glitters or colouring of any type in the hair is prohibited.
During hot weather, female students may be permitted to wear plain white blouses (not translucent), not tee-shirts, black skirts covering the knee (charcoal grey or dark blue may be permitted) and black covered shoes to the class.
-1-

2.3 ALL Gowns and Skirts –
(a) Must be graceful, but not cling provocatively to the body;
(b) Must not be above the knee; and
(c) Must not have high slits (i.e. above the knee); and only at the back.

2.4 ALL Blouses or Shirts –
(a). Must be graceful, but not cling provocatively to the body;
(a) Must not be transparent; and
(c). Must not expose sensitive parts of the body i.e. it must not expose your cleavage,upper arm, stomach and/or navel.
• The above mode of dressing is mandatory for both male and female Students for attending lectures and other extra Curricula activities, and for attendance at Magistrate Courts and all Superior Courts.




like so many others in this matter, the fellow says hijab is not allowed - but unlike lawyers everywhere, he cannot point to section 4 , subsection 3, rule x - all he can say is 'it is not allowed' . everything said so far on this matter points to unwritten tradition/culture, not actual rules/policy.

equally odd is the deliberate ignorance on this fellows part. he says the abuja campus allows for a black light hijab, but only a head scarf. a person who studied in the uk, where they are very open on these things, somehow does not know that the hijab is a head scarf? what was ms firdaus wearing? was it not a scarf?



so what is MS firdaus wearing, if not a head scarf?





there are multiple issues here
1) as stated before, no one has been able to point to the actual written, signed off rule

2) nigeria is a multi religious country. contrary to the popular belief, Muslims have often been quiet in the face of different attitudes which are non secular or showing disregard for people of different faiths. i went to a government primary school, where christian prayers were said during assembly. muslim prayers were not said. the same happens in most dining halls in so called secular government secondary schools - christain prayers are said, muslim prayers are not said. the fact that this was not protested does not make it right. of course, if one day, a muslim had chosen to protest and insist that muslim prayers be said during assembly, or during a meal, the next thing would be the screams of islamic agenda - it is in teh rules, render unto ceasar - over a traditin slanting towards one religion.

3)Halima Buhari, is a very beautiful and well spoken young lady, but i do not recall anyone appointing her as a beacon for muslim ladies in nigeria. are all msulim ladies daughters of preseidents? are all muslim ladies married to billionaires? are all muslim ladies on social media?

4)even if zahra buhari felt the same way as firdaus, she would not have insisted on a hijab uring her call to bar because pdp, fan kayode, the nigerian press etc, would immedaiately jump on this as buhari's islamisationa agenda. we have seen all sorts of ridiculos allegations already - was it not earlier this year where the same dailies were shouting about a so called scheme to remove crk from the national curriculum?

5) as a multireligious country, some things do not need to be stated. friday is jumat. In 100% muslim countries, Friday is the weekend. in nigeria, mst employers etal tactily and quietly allow muslim staff to take 2 hours off for jumat. that is religious inclusion. nigeria is 50% muslim, and as i have stated repeatedly on other threads,wearing the hijab is not an issue in any other profession in this country, be it engineering, corporate nigeria, etal.



this is double speak. the issue at question is not what people wear to class; it is what people wear to the bar, and ultimately, what people are allowed to wear to pratise law. i am suprised that a so called lawyer does not understand basic logic - which is what law is about in the end.



yes, it was premediatated, because this is actually the only way to bring this issue to the forefront and let it be closed once and for all. Nigerian muslims have the right to wear hijab when practicing law. there should not be any ambiguity or subjection to a judges' whim.

i will continue to reference Rosa parks in this matter. the issues are broadly similar. for years there has been an unwritten restriction on female lawyers wearing hijab in the law court. people will say tradition, way it is done etc etc. there are NO written rules that speak to this. one person has decided to stand up and challenge this. we are a secular country yes - we are also a multicultural country. accomodations must be made for others religious choices. Modest/devout muslim women wear teh hijab AT ALL TIMES. working women have already struck a compromise - in the workplace they wear the hijab, not niqab, not chador, not burqah. this is because they also unndersatnd the need to look professional.

if you feel you can wear native doctor clothing/ cele clothing etc, and loo professional, you are also free to push for it. in the case in osun, i simply saw people making themselves look daft and silly.



actually, that is where teh fellow is most wrong. in the end, this will be about business and numbers. there is a large contingent of Muslim lawyers and clients. in addition to this, they are well heeled. hijab is a non issue, and IT WILL sail through.

in the end, the issue is about choice. i can choose not to grow a beard; however you should not be forcing me not to grow a beard based on a nebulous tradition. a lady can choose not to wear hijab - however she should not be forced not to wear hijab. end of.

i seem to remember the guy also did some stuff in malaysia - well this is from court in malaysia -

sad that the guy went round the world but still came out an intolerant prick. the story of nigerians

And no form of embroidment of any kinds in the hair is what?

Where are these dull folks springing out from for crying out loud?

One thing that's certain is Religion certainly reduce some educated folks to illiterates!

irynterri:
there is nothing more dignifying to womanhood than a well clothed woman more especially when her hair is covered, I still remember going to the core north for the first time, though I'm not a Muslim but I was very impressed with the way the women dressed all covered both rich and poor, especially the rich, how they matched their abayas with a well styled hijab and walked with so much dignity, I was so impressed with womanhood, believe me you can't meet such women and insult them,you will even feel stupid trying to do so, I will always commend them as they seem to be one of the few women who are committed to make womanhood respected unlike those ones that strut around music videos, red carpets and magazines making women seem like mere sex objects, especially that FFK's Snow White that goes to church in cleavage baring,high slit dresses, besides who is FFK to talk about paedophilia with the high rate of child rape in the SW

Lmao. Funny how you equate child rape, a known offence justified with punishment to popularly practised paedophilia in the North where no one judge them of such dirty practise?

Empiree:
God said this or Paul?. Now switch it around

Goan sleep!

Paul acknowledged Priscilla as a minister of God, he even stated that Priscilla taught him better of the words of God.

It's quite stupid to use Paul's admonition to a church in particular who had lousy women at that time as admonition to all churches!

Many women preached the gospel in the bible. A woman, Mary was the first to see Jesus after his resurrection and went on preaching to the other disciples that "Jesus has risen" which is a gospel itself.

I ask again what are your sisters doing in schools when Islam forbid such to women? You haven't answered that though.

Notwithstanding, I've never seen women as alfas and imams unlike we have in christians churches yet guess who's speaking nonsense?

Btw, Only the wretched wears Hijab!

Empiree:
So?. Women in islam are free to exercise their spiritual rights. What's the big deal in that?. What your bible said is for women not to lead church goers. They must be silent in church. Today, 99.99% of churches violated this command.

Yet Priscilla taught Apollos the word of God and she was acknowledged as a minister by Paul.

I wonder when Paul's advice to a particular church who had lousy women at that time became an advice to every church.

Some are really roaming.

What did acts 2:17 says? Read below

In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.

Funny enough it's Islam that forbid formal education to women, so I wonder what she's doing in law school in the first place.

forzarush:
Somebody who is knowledgeable wouldn't have said that,buhari's daughter is not Allah's yardstick for how or not others should dress. I repeat,you are very wretched. So,those women in Saudi are wretched too? Money has been wasted sending you to school.

Hijab wears is the culture of the arabians, hence they can do and undo with it. More so, they need it as a precaution against the desert winds!

However, it's a shame if you, an africa woman can't display your cultural attires/garbs before Allah who made you an africa woman, unless you're saying Allah is partial.

I repeat, the act of wearing Hijab is wretchedness because only people with dirty hairs and ugly attires wear Hijab and Niqab.

forzarush:
Many Hijabis and Niqob sisters are way richer and wealthier than some rich people. As for you, your thoughts show the level if your wretchedness because you are not very knowledgeable. Don't bother replying, I'm too busy to clapback.

Nigeria's first citizen, Buhari's daughters wear no Hijab!

I repeat only the wretched wear Hijab.

maasoap:

You guys can just twist story anyhow just for comment to be considered acceptable. Where did 87 years old man come up in the story? The husband in this case is 28, the wife also, 28. Instead of attacking her husband, she could have easily run away.
Must everything be justified?
The guy na mumu sef. Who has time to be running after 28 years old washout?

Chop knuckle! Proper northerner.. Na 10 yrs old he shoulda run after..

Yeye.

TundeHashim:
forced marriage is against our culture..just don't know what's happening of recent

What's this one saying? Those 10-16 yrs old girls forced to marry old cargos in the North definitely gave their permission? Yeye.

raumdeuter:

So who controlled the midfield for City this season?

David Silva! The Don.

raumdeuter:

Maybe City should have played with 10 players then

Tsk tsk..
I asked a question na..

raumdeuter:


Just 2 days ago, City played Spurs without Silva and won 4-1

I didn't watch the game. Still, De Bruyne isn't a player you would want to control your midfield. He's much more direct and isn't that great under pressure.

atheist5:
make we talk truth them nor struggle against Tottenham oh

Well, I didn't watch the game but Gundogan played, right?

raumdeuter:


Exhibit 3

One thing you should know is that Silva is the only midfielder I regard in that City midfield.

De bruyne is more direct, attack minded, creative and has improved his possession play under Guardiola but he lacks the control in the midfield unlike Silva. Even Guardiola stated that Silva is his most important midfielder. So who are you to oppose such?

Besides, his dribbling in tight spaces isn't that great. His average euro performances which involved him being often lying on his back is something I can't just forget like that. Hazard has a better control under pressure than Debryune and was better than him at the Euro.

Abegi.. We know that City always struggle without Silva like they did in the carling cup or was it against Napoli??, so save me this nonsense!

raumdeuter:


I am investigating what some posters on this forum said about City players before this season

Did they think City's team was the best squad in the league



Exhibit 1

Still right though. Stones is still a liability for England regardless of City possession play.

While Sane is clueless without Silva in midfield. He's improved his goal scoring but his decision making and crossing skills are shite! I said it.